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http://jokeforblog.blogspot.com/2010/03/spy-great-wall-new-hover.html

The site doesn't make me publish the pictures, so here's the link ;)

hey, jey,

you have any info on this one? it says on the site hover h7, but isnt the hover h7 the white futuristic looking hover presented in an autoshow some time back?

it will be a new model of hover, during my last visit in GWM they also show to us some concept photos of new model, it's very similar to this one

so what's the name mico, hover h7? when will it come out? is it as big as the current hover?

http://img144.imageshack.us/img144/1985/gm6.jpg

Another member of GWM Hover family ....
http://img1.gtimg.com/auto/pics/31727/31727857.jpg

wow, nice... most probably a soft roader, ala honda cr-v... looks a bit familiar though... i just can't remember what car... :D

i think i already said it... haha... looks a bit cr-v-ish... but im sure it's an all original model by GW :D

H6:
http://s2.mojalbum.com/kitajci-13-foto_4219952_17388788_17781312.jpg

SC60:
http://s2.mojalbum.com/kitajci-13-foto_4219952_17388788_17781313.jpg

Another SUV:
http://s2.mojalbum.com/kitajci-13-foto_4219952_17388788_17781314.jpg

At Beijing Auto Show GW will also showcase C50 sedan:
http://s2.mojalbum.com/kitajci-13-foto_4219952_17388788_17781337.jpg

more of GW at:
http://news.bitauto.com/guochandiezhao/20100416/1405135248.html

wow great job by great wall... i was just wondering why the mini SUV and the other sedan were not shown in the pictures.

anyway, i think great wall is going in the right direction, they're now avoiding manufacturing cars that are "inspired" by other brands.

can't wait for those suv's to come out. I'm sure that if they bring these here in my country, people will like it. plus, i think these designs are more realistic for production than the hover h7, which was a bit too futuristic.

it's a good way that great wall finnaly start do to their own models, but i see that great wall is still "looking" for itself in way of designing vehicles, also they start to offer too many models, which is really isn't good for future sale

sample, they present 4-5 suv model, but there is no pick up models, by which great wall is most famous, then in passenger car segment there is now over 10 models, also too many cross vehicles

by my opinion they made a mistake with old hover, they simply must cancel that old models and present one as offical next model of hover, those h5, h5,h6...you simply don't know who is next model, all of them is similar, they sholud offer 3 suv model, small, medium and large, 2-3 pick u models, and couple of passenger car models, this all now too much

and other thing, so many models but without european type approval, why? they should make at least 5 or 10 models with EU type approval, for now they have only 4 models, but 2 of them isn't selling in europe

You're right Micodelija, abandoning the pickup expertise is bad move for Great Wall. A developing country like China is in need of good rugged pickup trucks to support its construction and other industries.
So now here's a good opportunity for Zhongxing, Jiangling, Shuguang and Zhengzhou Nissan to pick up the slack. Pick ups eventually are sure to have a strong appeal to young buyers.

i dont know if you guys will agree with me but i think great wall is presenting these cars to see how people will react to them. it seems to me that so far, not all of great wall's concepts have been put in production.

let's look at the other side now... isn't great wall also known for suv's? these suv's i think are of different categories, just like toyota has land cruiser, then fortuner, then rav 4... i think great wall just wants to explore those markets as well.

I agree with you guys though, that they should stop facelifting the hover and should just change it entirely. :D

live shots : http://auto.sohu.com/20100421/n271658857.shtml
official pictures comming soon ...
http://photocdn.sohu.com/20100421/Img271658886.jpg/IMG]
[IMG]http://m1.biz.itc.cn/pic/auto/m/40/00/Img450040_middle.jpg

Pfff... Daihatsu Terios / Toyota Rush clone. Will Great Wall ever learn it? There is no chance for those copies in Europe and North America. Great Wall has already been prohibited to sell the Peri (Panda clone) in Europe.

SC60:
http://car.autohome.com.cn/showcar/exps15/2124.html
http://cn.autoblog.com/2010/04/24/autoblog-2010-haval-sc60/

http://s2.mojalbum.com/kitajci-14-foto_4219952_17393070_17955955.jpg
http://s2.mojalbum.com/kitajci-14-foto_4219952_17393070_17955956.jpg
http://s2.mojalbum.com/kitajci-14-foto_4219952_17393070_17955957.jpg


M3:
http://car.autohome.com.cn/showcar/exps15/2122.html
http://cn.autoblog.com/2010/04/24/autoblog-2010-beijing-haval-m3/

http://s2.mojalbum.com/kitajci-14-foto_4219952_17393070_17955951.jpg

http://s2.mojalbum.com/kitajci-14-foto_4219952_17393070_17955952.jpg
http://s2.mojalbum.com/kitajci-14-foto_4219952_17393070_17955954.jpg

H6:
http://car.autohome.com.cn/showcar/exps15/2123.html
http://cn.autoblog.com/2010/04/24/autoblog-beijing-haval-h6-2010/

http://s2.mojalbum.com/kitajci-14-foto_4219952_17393070_17955949.jpg
http://s2.mojalbum.com/kitajci-14-foto_4219952_17393070_17955950.jpg

Wow, I like that Great Wall SC60 SUV! Beautiful piece of crossover work there. Keep ones like that coming and export them to America.

Info: Martin or Mico we need your help...do you know if one or more of these wonderful GWM SUV will be put in production and if so have you any info about timing......

Very very beautiful cars...i'm really happy... up GWM

Haval H5:
http://data.auto.qq.com/mshow/bjcz10/115/serialpic_1110_1.shtml

http://s2.mojalbum.com/kitajci-13-foto_4219952_17388788_17804767.jpg
http://s2.mojalbum.com/kitajci-13-foto_4219952_17388788_17804768.jpg
http://s2.mojalbum.com/kitajci-13-foto_4219952_17388788_17804769.jpg
http://s2.mojalbum.com/kitajci-13-foto_4219952_17388788_17804766.jpg

with great wall you never know, main problem is attitude of great wall,for now don't have serius plan for european markets unitil 2012, because of big economic chrisis main market for great wall now is china, and they are doing very well, selling is better and better every year, so why they should bother with other markets, they now made so many passenger cars because they want to get bigger share at the market in this segment, florid and coolbear are selling very good, peri and cowry now, so now they present this sedan c30 and hope for good sale as well, but in final, complete result was very good

we will see what will happend, hover h6, sc60 and m3 are still concepts, c50,c70 also, newest models in europe will be h5( type approval should be finished in may) and wingle a5 model(with new headlights), florid i think that it will not enter eu, coolbear also

ok thank you

Like the M3.

the gwh SC60 looks good but the car is too small, it has an important front and big but the rest of the car is small.

M3 is a terios clone, please don't bring this in italy, it will be a completely failed because in italy Terios sells very good and we don't need a terios clone.

haval h6 looks not impressive, not beautiful but not ugly.

and haval h5 what is? a next facelift of hover h5?

sc 60 is too small??
http://i41.tinypic.com/24guhyp.jpg
he is almost 4,8 meters long, it's very big suv

m3 is not a terios clone, firstly it's bigger:
terios 4065x1695x1705
m3: 4240x1768x1705
interior is also different, only similarity is in engine,1.5 with 77 kw

gwm must change the name hover because of problem with registration of name, so now it's haval, h5 is avalaible in 4 types, leading,enterprising,extreme(old models with different grills and engines) and euro edition, which will be exported

http://i43.tinypic.com/34fzol0.jpg
haval h6 will be much similiar to real suv models, biggest change is on suspension which is different then in h5 model and it's more made for "on road" drive, while h5 models is a mix between on road and off road drive, because it have transfer case, 4L mode

So this (h6) will probably compete with the likes of the toyota rav4, honda cr-v, hyundai tucson?

firstly will european h5 model compete against them, because h6 is in plan during 2011 year and it's still a concept while h5 is already in production and very soon it will be offered to market

Is there some diffirence between HAVAL and HOVER brands?

i already write it just 2 rows before, great wall have problem to get "licence" for hover name because somebody register this name and have legal rights for it, so because of that they replace it with haval, it's the same car but simply now is called haval

sc 60 is too small??
http://i41.tinypic.com/24guhyp.jpg
he is almost 4,8 meters long, it's very big suv

m3 is not a terios clone, firstly it's bigger:
terios 4065x1695x1705
m3: 4240x1768x1705
interior is also different, only similarity is in engine,1.5 with 77 kw

gwm must change the name hover because of problem with registration of name, so now it's haval, h5 is avalaible in 4 types, leading,enterprising,extreme(old models with different grills and engines) and euro edition, which will be exported

sc 60 is not small but the front is bigger than the rest of the car.

but is interesting that future suv will be called Haval and not Hover, so the new hover h5 will arrive in italy or not?



i know that m3 is not a clone but the style is very similar and in my country people get their opinions only seeing the design of the car.

by the latest informations which i got h5 should arrive in italy during this year, we will see

good maybe h5 will arrive with i7phenom.

Haval H5 is nearing the production:
http://s2.mojalbum.com/kitajci-14-foto_4219952_17393070_17949779.jpg

source:
http://auto.sohu.com/20100623/n273008389.shtml

Martin, the one in the picture above is the China Version right? How is it different from the Euro Version, aside from the looks?

HI Everybody,

What are the last new for ths new Hover? I have been using both 4wd generation of H3 for 2.5 years in inermongolia and giving them hard time. They just did great. They were used on contruction site with temp from +35 to -48 degrees C and i have to say, out of the tires and shocks witch are both poor quality for offroad use, they were grweat. My Colleagues has crashed a few of them, rolled over, jump in deep ditch and not a very low speed. they all got out un injured:thumb: .

I am planning to purchase one private, so..i come to the last news:) .
Not sure yet if i should go for H3 or H5, but i want a 4g69 4wd, and if GWM come with it, the automatic gearbox.

Anybody has information on this auto greabox?

Is the frame different between H3 and H5? I got both frames on H3, the old one, and the new one with additionnal reinforcement for crash test.
The late H3 frame was fairly good and exept the tank that is a little low for serious offroad.

new models of hover will have automatic versions with 4x4 mode, your expirinaces are quite impressive, it will be good if you can post some photos if you have

http://img88.imageshack.us/img88/4194/haval.jpg
i see that many people are now little bit confused with that hover h3, h5 and other series, so i prepare one help for you all, now we all know that future name for hover will be HAVAL, because of some problems during registraion of name, here in the list now you can see all and i hope that this will help you all to understand better gwm suv models :thumb:

Yes i have been impressed. I am used to drive Toyota landcruiser in African expeditions, and out of the lack of power, this hovers did really good all places i used it.

I have been doing offroad for over 12 years, and this car is probably the number 2 on my best fun list, really cool to drive, and drift with. if you know how to handle it and play on 3 wheel balance, it does great even without any difflock and it's very limited axle twist.

I plan to get one private and built it spicy hot:thumb: :D

Definitelly 100 times better than the Chinese Cherokee witch i was repairing everyday.

very good and nice photos, you can check my off road videos as well:
http://www.youtube.com/user/micodelija?blend=2&ob=1
just search the uploads,also you have many my photos here from snow, mud or other, just search thru this topics here

Hi all

Do you have more informations about this automatic gearbox, i am very interested. Any ref, where does it come from? WIll be on 4wd models?
Eventually some gear ratio?
On the 4G69?

For the hover, i have push it to it's limit's on and off road, top speed, ~195km/h on the meter, shocks where getting out of control over 180km/h.
I did that during an emergency drive to the nearest hospital. inermongolian small country side roads, 150km, 43mn, That was more like when i rally drive than enything else.

Top speed was reach in 4th gear, rev all the way up.

During the trip, i burned half way the front tires, 3 times got the brakes too hot and was loosing seriouly braking power.

The thing i will modify on my personal hover, will be the brake management, it brake first the front wheels and when the front locks, the ABS transfer to the rear...same is you disconect the ABS:mad: . I hate that, it makes unstable braking when driving...as i like to:thumb: . I will remove the ABS unit and bypass it a manually adjustable valve for brake pressure in the rear circuit.

The good part is the hand brake is quite efficient and long lasting, i used it a lot to get the car in the right sliding angle to optimise my position in corners. Do only when used on 2wd and free the clutch, otherwise you will also lock the front wheel if in 4wd, and then you are out in the ditch:nono:

using it in really deep snow, 1 or 2nd long gear, floored to the rev cut out, 1.2bar in the tires, it does great, and all the mechanic took it well to my surprise:eek: .

The frame hold up fine, might need a few reinforcement, but nothign dramatic. i took it for some interesting offroad crossing by temp bellow -40 and nothing else than broken lower bracket on the front bumper, even the plastic lower panels are quite tough.

My tires were 245 75r16, too wide, but good hight, the best for the mongolian terrain and the lower power of the hover would be 215 85R16 but they are difficult to find.

If only great wall was putting some better engine, this car could be sold so easilly aboard.

...
crazy

Hi all,

I just passed by a Greatwall dealer and had a look under the car.
The new H3 diesel 2.5TCi is coming out with a different rear axle. Any body has more informations about it?
Is the gas version also going to have a different rear axle from the older version?

This new axle look like mitsu, isuzu or hunday, they are all similar from the housing but different inside.

The old one was similar has the one on the safe and toy hilux old version.

That is a kind of issue as i wanted to fit in a special differential but it is not available for isuzu axles, only mitsu and toy:rolleyes: .

The pics are not very clear, but we can see the difference.

Also the now hover do not have anymore the frame reinforcement right behind the front wheel on the side of the frames. The hover i used had this special device to prevent wheel to move backward to the cab when you crash hard. That was a good thing and also helped protect the lower panel when take for some interesting offroad. Shame they removed that piece.

Any inputs are welcome:nod: .

Thanks

from 2005 year to 2010 year gwm made many modifications on suspension, especially on rear part of vehicle, which is more stable now, some new models also have traction control on them, also chasis for diesel and gasoline versions are little bit different, because of gearbox

What about the rear axle? DId you see anything on your cars in croatia?

Dongfeng pickup use dana44 rear end, that is a very good choice:thumb: , but i don't like much their frame and even more their new engines.

All Chinese diesel i have try so far exept an old dongfeng 3.2TD are all dead.
Like on the hover, where have they hide the HP and the promessing torque? you floor it and nothing hapend, it is just slow from the bottom to the top.

The 3.2 i tryed 2 years ago was nice, torquy and full of energy. Even if it specs were lower on the paper they were much better in the real life. And also so easy to tune. Turbo and injection pump very easy to access and with a few trick you could get something really interesting out of it:nod: .

On the hover, i still much prefer the gas version, it is more alive than the diesel, even if it still underpower for today. Looking forward to a v6 3 or 3.5L int eh nose:thumb:

What about the rear axle? DId you see anything on your cars in croatia?

Dongfeng pickup use dana44 rear end, that is a very good choice:thumb: , but i don't like much their frame and even more their new engines.

All Chinese diesel i have try so far exept an old dongfeng 3.2TD are all dead.
Like on the hover, where have they hide the HP and the promessing torque? you floor it and nothing hapend, it is just slow from the bottom to the top.

The 3.2 i tryed 2 years ago was nice, torquy and full of energy. Even if it specs were lower on the paper they were much better in the real life. And also so easy to tune. Turbo and injection pump very easy to access and with a few trick you could get something really interesting out of it:nod: .

On the hover, i still much prefer the gas version, it is more alive than the diesel, even if it still underpower for today. Looking forward to a v6 3 or 3.5L in the nose:thumb:

u r quite the sneeky arbt u wayne - this one is quite problematic to understand

what about this one,i think it is also a good one
http://img.jiaodong.net/pic/0/10/72/36/10723641_985742.jpg
http://www.uncars.com/guide/gccm/images/2010/4/26/201042616329E0A8D0A4430921C451518822EF8.jpg
http://www.pickupbase.com/newsuv/new1-1b.jpg
http://www.pickupbase.com/newsuv/new1-7b.jpg

Chrislin,
this is a GW thread,
what is the purpose of posting Gonow vehicles here?

Chrislin, are you trying to advertise your gonow prototypes in the GW thread ?

I think good things can be put together,and of course your thread can be viewed more

But Greatwall is in a different league than Gonow. Gonow has a long way to go yet. But then again maybe Guangzhou Auto's acquisition will give it a lift.

It's not the point. Either Chrislin is there only to do some promotion for Gonow. Either he doesn't get the point of a forum with specific thread.

Thought I'd try humoring him Joest since giving him credit for thinking logically or reasonably might be going too far.
Just common sense should tell him there are much better ways to sell us on Gonow and any of its competitive features.

First pictures of Haval H6:
http://s2.mojalbum.com/kitajci-15-foto_4219952_17398151_18093295.jpg
http://s2.mojalbum.com/kitajci-15-foto_4219952_17398151_18093293.jpg
http://s2.mojalbum.com/kitajci-15-foto_4219952_17398151_18093296.jpg

source:
Auto.sohu

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YIFCXK35FhI
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ypq-q18tA4I

two really cool videos about new models :)

is it true that the Hover M3 is about to launch? how come we've only seen early pics of the h6? :D

http://img40.imageshack.us/img40/908/5004fdf5587b39b41fb911f.jpg
great wall present diesel engine at chengdu auto show

http://img697.imageshack.us/img697/4040/500be9c61493699436293bf.jpg
http://img696.imageshack.us/img696/9826/500ed5841e1de88449eac92.jpg
http://img830.imageshack.us/img830/629/500c072f0133fff439cb714.jpg
also there was published some photos of h6, interior look quite good, very simple which I personaly like

hi mico, any links? :D

Micodelija made it himself =D

euro 4 o euro 5 ?????????

Haval H6:

http://i2.sinaimg.cn/qc/2010/1119/2010111911928.jpg

http://i3.sinaimg.cn/qc/2010/1119/2010111911336.jpg

http://i1.sinaimg.cn/qc/2010/1119/2010111911420.jpg

http://i1.sinaimg.cn/qc/2010/1119/2010111911451.jpg

http://i2.sinaimg.cn/qc/2010/1119/2010111911515.jpg

http://i0.sinaimg.cn/qc/2010/1119/2010111911733.jpg

http://i1.sinaimg.cn/qc/2010/1119/2010111911859.jpg

Technical specifications
Length × width × height: 4635 × 1820 × 1680 mm
Wheelbase: 2680 mm
Ground clearance: 185 mm

Source: http://auto.sina.com.cn/car/2010-11-19/1112678788.shtml

http://img3.cache.netease.com/auto/2010/11/27/20101127183654a5d92.jpg

http://img4.cache.netease.com/auto/2010/11/27/2010112718372960b4b.jpg

http://img4.cache.netease.com/auto/2010/11/27/2010112718370918201.jpg

http://img4.cache.netease.com/auto/2010/11/27/2010112718373325a6b.jpg

Source: http://auto.163.com/10/1127/18/6MH21ILL00081G9U.html

very nice car,I want to buy one

The H6 kinda reminds me of Chevrolet Captiva side view wise but its still pretty!

Hover H6 sighted again with new badge:
http://s2.mojalbum.com/avto3-foto_4219952_17427594_18506733.jpg
http://m4.auto.itc.cn/car/m/03/83/Img718303_middle.jpg

Hover will thus become independent brand.


http://auto.sohu.com/20110218/n303304643.shtml

Look nice!