Please advise as to how we can have our brand & logo listed in its own forum - wwwdot wuzhengdot com.


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Do you make any cars? :confused:

If not then someone needs to create the "China Truck Forums" ;)

Please advise as to how we can have our brand & logo listed in its own forum - wwwdot wuzhengdot com.

welcome to china car forums wuzheng

I am going to make a China Truck forums, on here...please post educational and informative posts in that and we can also do a link exchange if wanted?

Introducing the Wuzheng Series 5 Work Truck.

POWERTRAIN: Turbo-Diesel, Intercooled 3.8 Liter engine. SCR/PM Trap Emission Control System, most clean-running diesel in North America. 5-Speed manual.

CONFIGURATION: Dump Body or Flat Bed Cab-and-a-half.

OPTIONS LIST: You want Blue or White?

WARRANTY: 5-Year, 50,000 mile bumper to bumper standard, 10-year 150,000 mile optional at extra cost (Best warranty on commercial vehicle on the planet for this class)

All for under $20,000. Delivered, no less.

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Discussion/comments welcome.

Hi WhzhengNA, feel free to post about ur models and their reviews, but please do it under 1 thread..such as this THREAD...so we dont have multiple threads...

but please be sure to post reviews of ur models and pics of ur models in this THREAD

thnks

Well done Admin, this could be a very interesting forum. :thumb:

I am going to make a China Truck forums, on here...please post educational and informative posts in that and we can also do a link exchange if wanted?

Thanks Admin about this new forum ! Chinese trucks are just starting to enter European markets and it is usefull to learn more about them.

...Chinese trucks are just starting to enter European markets and it is usefull to learn more about them....

Ask me anything!

Here's what I have about Shandong Wuzheng:

Established: 1962
Number of staff: 3500

500 sales distribution points in 26 Provinces (in China).

Model in production:

- WL2310 P
- WL2810 D
- WL4010 D
- WL4015
- WL5815 P
- WZ1060 PK
- WZ1040 PK

Wuzheng also has a large selection of three-wheelers, tractors and golf carts.

Wuzheng website (in Global Sources directory):

http://chinawuzheng.manufacturer.globalsources.com/si/6008817026084/Showroom/Truck/point_id-3000000174220/catalog_id-2000000003844/prod_id-22430/page_num-1.htm

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many more pics at:
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Wuzheng China

www.chinawuzheng.com (http://www.chinawuzheng.com)


Wuzheng North America

www.wuzheng.com (http://www.wuzheng.com)

So why will Wuzheng do better than, say, Bering did in the 1990s? Or any of the other brands that have come and gone in the US? What makes Wuzheng any different than Aro or Proton or Chery or Geely?

What weight classes is Wuzheng expecting to sell in the US?

After visiting your website, I have the same questions (aside from the weight class one). Do you really think there's a market for an off-highway 7,500 GVWR ONE-cylinder (1.6L!!!) truck in the US?

Wuzheng China

www.chinawuzheng.com (http://www.chinawuzheng.com)


Wuzheng North America

www.wuzheng.com (http://www.wuzheng.com)


can u post a pic of the WUZHENG LOGO

There are two.

For Wuzheng North America
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and China Wuzheng
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Here it is:

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So why will Wuzheng do better than, say, Bering did in the 1990s?

Bering was an odd hydrid - korean truck parts melded with US parts at no real cost advantage, trying to compete directly with existing trucks in same class on performance and price. Then a death blow by Chrysler & Hyundai who both wanted to dismantle the exclusive agreement between Hyundai and Bering USA.

Or any of the other brands that have come and gone in the US?

Chinese truck brands?

What makes Wuzheng any different than Aro or Proton or Chery or Geely?

Those are passenger automobiles. Tough market that we have no intention of entering. The Wuzheng Series 5 is a work truck. It is a tool. No matter what I answer now, before, in the future, always remember that. It is a tool, and will be marketed as such.

Do you really think there's a market for an off-highway 7,500 GVWR ONE-cylinder (1.6L!!!) truck in the US?

Priced a Kawasaki Mule lately?

I greatly appreciate the questions, please ask anything.

I read somewhere that Mahindra (India) is doing really well in the US in selling tractors and such (like in New Orleans, where people have less money).

Are you focusing your truck in certain demographics/area?

We are establishing a distributer network now, coast to coast. No franchises, no "dealerships".

Toyota has a majority stake in both Daihatsu and Hino.

Daihatsu's foray into the North American market failed shortly after it began.
Hino has been struggling to capture a piece of the U.S. truck market since the 1970's.

What is unique about Wuzheng's product?

In its pursuit of success, I would suggest that Wuzheng and its agents use Hino as a case study.

Hino has been struggling to capture a piece of the U.S. truck market since the 1970's.
Hino has done well enough to establish a local plant (in California).

Those are passenger automobiles. Tough market that we have no intention of entering. The Wuzheng Series 5 is a work truck. It is a tool. No matter what I answer now, before, in the future, always remember that. It is a tool, and will be marketed as such.
ARO is not a passenger car.

All trucks above Class 3 are "tools" and are marketed as such. Do you think that this is the best time to launch a new truck with the huge downturn in the truck market coming next year? Is price alone a reason to buy a truck from an unknown (to the buyers) maker? Especially since your unique (not known quantities like Cat, Cummins, Detroit, Navistar, etc) engines will not be serviceable at the "local dealer" since there are none?

In its pursuit of success, I would suggest that Wuzheng and its agents use Hino as a case study.

Hino is a great truck. I also feel Freightliner, Isuzu, Mitsubishi/Fuso, Mack, etc., most all are excellent trucks. No sarcasm intended at all, they are simply great trucks.

And, if I had $70,000 to blow on one that compared to the standard features of a Wuzheng (Turbo-Diesel Intercooled, Cab and a half, 5 ton payload, hydraulic dump) I would do so.

However, a consumer can buy THREE Wuzheng Series 5 trucks with the above specs, and have $10,000 left over for ONE of thier trucks.

We are not talking 5% less in price, or 10% less in price - we are talking a FRACTION of the price.

But you're also talking about no local dealers to repair the trucks...and no local mechanics who even know what the truck is. Buyers of these trucks expect them to be reliable and repairable AHEAD of purchase price. What is the point of a $10,000 savings if the truck sits around waiting for someone to fix it? Isn't that $10,000 being wasted in downtime?

These are just questions I have....questions that potential buyers will have.

Wuzheng:

I am honestly asking these questions.

I work in the industry and if you're going to make a go at this, I would like to have a better view of your chances in the marketplace.

How do you see the US market next year and why? And while having fewer distributors saves money and increases the profitability of each distributor by providing larger dedicated markets, it seems to limit the range of potential commercial buyers.

These are just questions based on points you brought up. If you'd rather not air these answers publicly, we can arrange something. I am genuinely interested in your business.

But you're also talking about no local dealers to repair the trucks...and no local mechanics who even know what the truck is. Buyers of these trucks expect them to be reliable and repairable AHEAD of purchase price. What is the point of a $10,000 savings if the truck sits around waiting for someone to fix it? Isn't that $10,000 being wasted in downtime?

These are just questions I have....questions that potential buyers will have.

I am honestly asking these questions.

I work in the industry and if you're going to make a go at this, I would like to have a better view of your chances in the marketplace.

How do you see the US market next year and why? And while having fewer distributors saves money and increases the profitability of each distributor by providing larger dedicated markets, it seems to limit the range of potential commercial buyers.

These are just questions based on points you brought up. If you'd rather not air these answers publicly, we can arrange something. I am genuinely interested in your business.
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These are all acceptable, valid questions.

First and foremost, every distributor will have a service department, but it is NOT expected, nor is it hoped for, that buyers will have the vehicles serviced at the distributor. Engine is of a standard diesel design, and can be serviced, rebuilt, tuned, and cared for by ANY competent diesel engine mechanic. Over 85% of all commercial trucks in this class are serviced by private mechanics.

When I state "Standard Design", I mean that it is a recognizable, proven design. Parts supply will be kept in a 10% reserve for the first 2 years of importation. That is an extraordinary percentage of spare parts. Any parts not held at distributor will be overnight shipped, at Wuzheng's expense.

How do I see the US automotive market next year? In our limited target audience (Light Heavy Duty Commercial Diesel Trucks) i see a downturn in overall sales. Notice I said OVERALL sales. This size truck and smaller (pickups) follow the housing/construction market closely, for obvious reasons. And the housing/construction market is in a downturn.

However, and EXACTLY AS IT IS IN THE HOUSING MARKET, the lowest price always sells, regardless of what the overall market is doing. The FIRST to fall off in sales, be it trucks or houses, are the expensive, loaded, luxury, exclusive models.

For decades I was associated with a company that built entry level homes. There are always first time home buyers, or buyers who would not be purchasing a home at all if the prices were not so low, NO MATTER WHAT the overall market was doing.

These vehicles fall into that catagory. Excellent work trucks. Strong turbodiesel engines. Hydraulic dumps. Cab and a half. But you will never see power windows, leather seats, or a CD player in one. Not installed by us, anyway. Which makes the price right, which, regardless of the market, makes this vehicle attractive to buyers.

With regards to distributorships - Keeping the number low is not necessarily intentional. However here is the thought process behind this; We are purposely, intentionally, introducing these vehicles slowly. For the 2007 model year, there are only two models, the Series 5 and the Series 7. If we deliver 500 vehicles during the 2007 Model Year, we will be very, very pleased.

Why? With a limited distribution network at this time, added to the fact that the vehicle will be scrutinized beyond belief, delivering 500 in the first year of operations will allow close monitoring of use & feedback. We can hover over the buyers, respond to needs, adjust where necessary, pay attention closely. Concentrate on the customer, NOT on expansion. I believe this is where most others fail.

I appreciate the intelligent questions - I hope I replied to your satisfaction, and feel free to question anything.

Two more questions:
First and foremost, every distributor will have a service department, but it is NOT expected, nor is it hoped for, that buyers will have the vehicles serviced at the distributor. Engine is of a standard diesel design, and can be serviced, rebuilt, tuned, and cared for by ANY competent diesel engine mechanic. Over 85% of all commercial trucks in this class are serviced by private mechanics.
...When I state "Standard Design", I mean that it is a recognizable, proven design.

But aren't the large majority of current trucks powered by diesel engines supplied by Navistar, Cummins, Detroit, or Cat? Most competent private mechanics know these engines forward and backward. Do engines used win Wuzheng trucks mirror the designs of these common engines to the point that a mechanic wouldn't be afraid to work on them?
Parts supply will be kept in a 10% reserve for the first 2 years of importation.
But if a mechanic hours from the "local" distributor needs a part, it'll be a day before they see it if the part is on hand at the distributor...and longer if it's not. Isn't this a large barrier that you have to cross when your vehicle is compared to a Ford with a dealer ever few miles or even to Mitsubishi Fuso or Isuzu or Hino who have a network of dealers?
How do I see the US automotive market next year? In our limited target audience (Light Heavy Duty Commercial Diesel Trucks) i see a downturn in overall sales. Notice I said OVERALL sales. This size truck and smaller (pickups) follow the housing/construction market closely, for obvious reasons. And the housing/construction market is in a downturn.
But the truck market as a whole is heading for a downturn due to emissions regulation changes, which will have a greater effect than a downturn in the housing market.

While price might lure buyers in the housing market, in the trucking market name brand means plenty. Nearly anyone (including most home owners) can fix things that go wrong around the house, but when it comes to trucks that provide your way of life, you need to know that it will be reliable and easily fixed when something does go wrong.

With all due respect to your experience in the housing market, I don't see these two industries running parallel the way you've described. There are few trucks sold as luxury items (aside from the Western Stars of the industry). Nearly all of the Class 4, Class 5, Class 6, and Class 7 trucks sold in the US are tools...and easily decontented to their basics if the market requires it.

...We are purposely, intentionally, introducing these vehicles slowly. For the 2007 model year, there are only two models, the Series 5 and the Series 7. If we deliver 500 vehicles during the 2007 Model Year, we will be very, very pleased.
I'm glad to see that you're not expecting the market to blow wide open with the introduction of your trucks. But even your number of 500 units in the first year is about half the number of Class 5 and Class 7 trucks Hino sells in the US, and they have a US factory to support.

Do engines used win Wuzheng trucks mirror the designs of these common engines to the point that a mechanic wouldn't be afraid to work on them?

That would be a correct assumption.

But if a mechanic hours from the "local" distributor needs a part, it'll be a day before they see it if the part is on hand at the distributor...and longer if it's not. Isn't this a large barrier that you have to cross when your vehicle is compared to a Ford with a dealer ever few miles or even to Mitsubishi Fuso or Isuzu or Hino who have a network of dealers?

I would have to say it is our largest barrier.

But the truck market as a whole is heading for a downturn due to emissions regulation changes, which will have a greater effect than a downturn in the housing market.

Not if our trucks already meet proposed 2010 emission standards.

While price might lure buyers in the housing market, in the trucking market name brand means plenty. Nearly anyone (including most home owners) can fix things that go wrong around the house, but when it comes to trucks that provide your way of life, you need to know that it will be reliable and easily fixed when something does go wrong.

We are in complete agreement on this.

With all due respect to your experience in the housing market, I don't see these two industries running parallel the way you've described. There are few trucks sold as luxury items (aside from the Western Stars of the industry). Nearly all of the Class 4, Class 5, Class 6, and Class 7 trucks sold in the US are tools...and easily decontented to their basics if the market requires it.

The housing/construction market DIRECTLY affects the truck market, they simply do run in parallel. Also, I completely agree - there are few "luxury" class 4, 5, 6 and 7 trucks. It is our humble opinion that the vast majority of pickups manufactured by Ford, GM, Dodge, however, both large & small, are more toys than trucks. Most with Nascar stickers on them.

I'm glad to see that you're not expecting the market to blow wide open with the introduction of your trucks. But even your number of 500 units in the first year is about half the number of Class 5 and Class 7 trucks Hino sells in the US, and they have a US factory to support.

Notice I did not say "sell" 500 trucks, I said "deliver". For us to sell fewer than 500 Series 5 and Series 7 Wuzheng trucks in 2007, we would have to cancel some orders.

The housing/construction market DIRECTLY affects the truck market, they simply do run in parallel. Also, I completely agree - there are few "luxury" class 4, 5, 6 and 7 trucks. It is our humble opinion that the vast majority of pickups manufactured by Ford, GM, Dodge, however, both large & small, are more toys than trucks. Most with Nascar stickers on them.
Construction does have a direct effect, but so do the emissions regulations. It's not passing the 2010 regulations that's the problem, it's the fact that many buyers have purchased 2006 models in anticipation of more expensive 2007 models, which happens ever time there's a major change in the laws. Next year will be a big down year on that fact alone. And then there's a housing downturn....

As for pickups, until the 2008 model year, all pickups were Class 1, 2, and 3. Ford will introduce the first Class 4 pickup in the next model year, but I don't see that having a huge consumer following. Current Class 4 and Class 5 Ford/GM/Dodge trucks are not pickups and rarely find their way into consumers' hands.

...many buyers have purchased 2006 models in anticipation of more expensive 2007 models, which happens ever time there's a major change in the laws. Next year will be a big down year on that fact alone..

I don't necessarily agree with that first part - I won't argue it, because I only have a "gut feeling" on it. I must assume you are going on a "gut feeling" also, because I don't believe the average truck buyer follows the regulation/law/standards as closely as you say. Again, I don't know (but you are wrong.....)

There definately will be a downturn in next years truck sales due to the rise in prices to keep with compliance. That is a positive for us - price will look even more attractive at $19k+/-

Thanks for the back & forth - it was enjoyable.

I don't necessarily agree with that first part - I won't argue it, because I only have a "gut feeling" on it. I must assume you are going on a "gut feeling" also, because I don't believe the average truck buyer follows the regulation/law/standards as closely as you say. Again, I don't know (but you are wrong.....)
I follow this market for a living. There's history to back up my claim, not just "gut feelings."

Just to let you know, our website is up at www.wuzheng.com, where you can review models, see gallery pictures, etc.

From November 29th to December 6, We will be visiting interested parties in the PA, NY, DE, MA, NJ areas with both the Series 5 and Series 7 vehicles. If you wish to take a look, with absolutely no obligation, please reply to mjp at wuzheng dot com to let us know - we will be happy to bring one directly to you!

We are planning the Nation-Wide introduction of Wuzheng on April 4th in NYC at the New York International Auto Show. This promises to be an extraordinary event, as the first Chinese vehicle imported into the United States available for sale to consumers.

We also have developments for both the Series 5 and Series 6 trucks to be manufactured in 4wd, single / crew cabs, as well as a 6.6 liter Turbo-Intercooled diesel model (all models currently have 3.8 liter Turbo-Intercooled engines)

Please, if you have any questions, I invite you to see the trucks, call, or email!

Introducing the Wuzheng Series 6 Work Truck.

POWERTRAIN: Turbo-Diesel, Intercooled 6.6 Liter engine. Plasma/Trap Emission Control System, most clean-running diesel in North America. 5-Speed manual.

CONFIGURATION: Dump Body or Flat Bed, Single or Cab-and-a-half.

OPTIONS LIST: You want Blue or White?

WARRANTY: 5-Year, 50,000 mile bumper to bumper standard, 10-year 150,000 mile optional at extra cost (Best warranty on commercial vehicle on the planet for this class)

All for under $24,000. Delivered, no less.

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www.wuzheng.com (http://www.wuzheng.com)

Discussion/comments welcome.

good looking exteriors wuzheng. looks like what we would call a category 2 truck-3-5 ton payload. do you have tech specs? i'm curious to know if there is a big demand in north america for trucks of this size. i'm thinking that given the good road conditions & the american mentality-bigger is better-the bread & butter line would be in the 7-ton & above categories. Sorry, don't have much experience in the north american market.

btw, do you have distributors in the southeast asian region? malaysia, indonesia, thailand, vietnam. i really want to compare notes w/them.

My question, how do you expect Wuzhen's score in 2007? Do you have a target?
And if Wuzhen already start sale in 2006, I know it will be tough at first. But I will be very glad to hear the news about the first Chiense vehicle sold in USA.


thank you

Score? How do you mean, sales volume? Prior to EPA/DOT/NHTSA approval, we had a sales goal in mind for 2007. We have already surpassed that figure for 2007, and it is still 2006! Our figure was where we felt comfortable knowing that there WILL be issues, there WILL be problems - we want sales, but not so many that we cannot thoroughly follow up with the customer, get feedback, make changes.

It is incomprehensible to us when we read about Malcom bringing in 50,000 units in year one. Not that it can't be done, we feel it SHOULDN"T be done. Only sell what you can thoroughly service. This strategy will either work, or it won't. We believe it is correct.

Our main concern is/will continue to be the following; Parts availability, service, availability of parts, customer feedback, parts warehousing, growth control, parts, service, parts, and parts.

There have been failures in this sector, and, in my opinion, the failures were due not so much because of quality issues, but when something breaks/goes wrong (As there is no doubt, something WILL be wrong, something WILL break) we have to be able to fix/replace/repair it immediately. We warehouse 10% parts, which is 50 times average. We don't see it staying at this level forever, but it is cheap insurance.

Today, one of the users of this forum test-drove one of our trucks because he may become a distributorship. As always, the main concern and topic of conversation was service & parts. At $19,000 per truck, it is basically a throw-away tool, but it still needs service.

Ask anything.

Will the Wezhung diesels met the 2004 and 2007 US diesel emissions standards?

They have a propriatary "Plasma-Cat" which is a 3-stage catalyst / Plasma system. Yes, they of course do.

I follow this market for a living. There's history to back up my claim, not just "gut feelings."
I sell refuse and septic bodies and I agree with you. We have two Wuzheng
trucks at our shop as the importer could not get them running. They are shipped without fuel or battery. The first one smoked to beat the band. Looks like they are worth about $6,000 to $10,000. All depends on the selling price and parts availablity.

Perhaps I was a little too harsh in my previous comment about the Wuzheng. Today I drove the second truck. The truck has obvious value in that it has a decent sized cab, a diesel engine and a dump body for a low price. This truck will compete against much more expensive American and Japanese trucks which have to be outfitted with an extra cost dump body. I was very impressed with the whole package.

happy new year, wuzheng. how about some updates on your intro into the u.s. market?

Why Thank you - that is very kind. Same to you and yours.

Our ramp up is going well. Orders for vehicles are currently well above expectations. Business wise and by the numbers, Wuzheng North America is doing very well and is very strong.

There are concerns, as with every new venture;

Parts - As previously mentioned, we have 5% spare parts shipped with the vehicles, as well as every 10th vehicle is simply dismantled for future parts needs. There has been little to no draw as of yet on the parts base, and, although everything is inventoried & shippable within an hour, we do not have the time factor in to see what areas are weak. It is a learning curve.

Distributors - We have met with literally HUNDREDS of interested parties wishing to become distributors. Most, if not all, have been successful, friendly, just darn nice people. Very few of them, unfortunately, have been in the position to become a distributor. Unlike every other auto dealership on the planet, we do not charge a fee for a distributorship, nor do we charge for parts inventory. Even so, most people who have represented themselves as "ready, willing and able" to be a distributor have shown to be "ready and willing" at best. Our first question for potential distributors has become, as rude as it may sound "Do you have $200,000 liquid assets available now to invest in inventory?" If the answer is not yes, we don't even ask any more questions. We wish we had started this way 12 months ago.

Chinese - There has been reluctance in purchasing a Chinese vehicle. This was expected, and has actually not been as bad as we thought it would be. We recently signed with Cummins to supply Cummins Turbo Diesel 210HP engines as an option which, since their availability, has increased sales by 40%.

We are pleased with the product. We are making adjustments where necessary. We have the parts & service. Certainly there will be more of a learning curve.

With the exception of the potential Distributor qualifications, we are simply overjoyed with the progress thus far.

WuzhengNA, how many trucks has wuzheng NA sold up to date?

Wuzheng North America planned a slow roll-out / introduction for the 2007 model year. We wished to sell 300 Series 5s and 200 Series 6s by the close of 2007.

That number was hit by December of 2006.

so you sold 700 trucks in 2006?? in the us???

No.

We sold / invoiced orders for more than 500 by December 2006.

Please stop by & visit us at the New York International Auto Show, April 6th thru the 15th, at the Jacob Javits Convention Center in NYC!

Score? How do you mean, sales volume? Prior to EPA/DOT/NHTSA approval, we had a sales goal in mind for 2007. We have already surpassed that figure for 2007, and it is still 2006! Our figure was where we felt comfortable knowing that there WILL be issues, there WILL be problems - we want sales, but not so many that we cannot thoroughly follow up with the customer, get feedback, make changes.

It is incomprehensible to us when we read about Malcom bringing in 50,000 units in year one. Not that it can't be done, we feel it SHOULDN"T be done. Only sell what you can thoroughly service. This strategy will either work, or it won't. We believe it is correct.

Our main concern is/will continue to be the following; Parts availability, service, availability of parts, customer feedback, parts warehousing, growth control, parts, service, parts, and parts.

There have been failures in this sector, and, in my opinion, the failures were due not so much because of quality issues, but when something breaks/goes wrong (As there is no doubt, something WILL be wrong, something WILL break) we have to be able to fix/replace/repair it immediately. We warehouse 10% parts, which is 50 times average. We don't see it staying at this level forever, but it is cheap insurance.

Today, one of the users of this forum test-drove one of our trucks because he may become a distributorship. As always, the main concern and topic of conversation was service & parts. At $19,000 per truck, it is basically a throw-away tool, but it still needs service.

Ask anything.


thanks a lot, that is great to hear.

Wuzheng North America has finalized arrangements to offer its Series 5 and Series 6 trucks with Cummins Engines, as well as Allison Transmissions.

Available immediately as an option, both series of trucks can be delivered with the Cummins 5.9 TurboDiesel / Intercooled engines with an output of 210 horsepower. This is a proven, established engine design that has stood the test of time. Properly maintained, it is considered a "million-mile engine".

Also available in conjunction with the Cummins Engine is the Allison 6-speed automatic transmission (1000 series). Allison, a proven manufacturer of heavy-duty transmissions, stands above all in the commercial vehicle transmission category.

Wuzheng North America has added these options at the request of its distributors, who felt that these options would remove the single most perceived concerns of potential buyers - reliability.

Standard engines for the Series 5 and Series 6, manufactured by Yunnei and Weifang Tianhe respectively, have proven reliable thus far in long-term use. However, Wuzheng NA was advised that some commercial buyers simply will not purchase vehicles (especially for fleets) unless they are intimately familiar with the drivetrain.

One of the more positive aspects of running a small, lean, progressive company such as Wuzheng North America, LTD., is the ability to immediately adjust, modify, or change direction when the situation dictates.

For the past two years, we have quietly, slowly, correctly, obtained exclusivity agreements with three Chinese Automotive manufacturers. We have developed vehicles to fill a market need in North America. We have worked side by side with the US EPA (Environmental Protection Agency) and the NHTSA (National Highway Traffic Safety Administration) to be sure every "i" is dotted, every "t" is crossed, so we may have a valid, certified, needed vehicle to offer for sale in the USA.

The preliminary work above was completed in December of 2006 using no outside funds, no investors, no "pre-sales" of distributors/dealers, etc. We are exceptionally proud of our accomplishments, and, as important, the method in which we obtained them.

When beginning this venture, we had assumed that the above would be the monumental task, the "hard part", if you will, and that finding qualified distributors/dealers would then be easy part.

Wow, were we wrong!

The certification progress on the vehicles we import was daunting, exhaustive, expensive, and trying. It was also relatively strait forward, as an item either passes certification testing or it does not. If it passes, great, if it does not, you do what is necessary to modify parameters to gain certification. It is truly black or white, yes or no.

Excited as we were to have the first Chinese-manufactured vehicle available in the USA, we were eager to show off our first boat-load of vehicles to those we considered potential dealers. Wuzheng NA has NEVER solicited dealers/distributors, only responding to those who contacted us or were referred to us by others.

We have been pleased with the response we have received from these vehicles. Reviewing the features available as standard as well as a $19,500 retail price tag ($15k Wholesale), there simply is no comparable vehicle in the USA. Period. Those that have driven the finished product are unanimous - this will sell, and sell in reasonable numbers.

(NOTE: I have personally sold more than 10 of these units by accident, when parking at my local Lowes Home Improvement store while shopping!)

Our concern arose as follows - Our location in Easton PA (a 100,000 sq ft final manufacturing facility) is not designed for retail sales. We never had, nor do we have now, any intention of selling these direct to consumers; we wish to forward vehicles in bulk to regional distributors and/or dealers. A significant number of qualified, ready, willing and able distributors have thus far eluded us.

The "willing" part has been easy - everyone who drives this truck wants one, and wants to sell them. However, we simply will not allow someone to become a "distributor" selling these out of their home garage. We have no fewer than 100 contacts who wish to go this or a similar route.

We actually have a large number of "qualified" and "able" contacts, none of which ever seem to be "ready" or "willing". We have, in fact, modified our Reseller Agreement to address these "the check is in the mail, I'll call back next week" crowd, by putting a time-limit on acceptance of the agreement.

It has been a frustrating experience for us, these last 12 weeks. Although it has been a true pleasure, as well as a learning experience, to meet so many people who are interested in this venture, the bottom line is this; we have spent enormous amounts of time, energy, and money traveling the US to meet with potential distributors/dealers with few positive results. This brings us back to the first line we wrote above, addressing the ability to adapt when the situation dictates.

First, Wuzheng North America LTD. has officially rescinded its acceptance to an invitation to attend the New York International Auto Show. The reasons are as follows;

We cannot show a vehicle that does not have coast to coast coverage for sales, parts, service, parts, and parts.


We have come this far due to methodical hard work – the auto show, although exceptionally exciting in theory, would be premature


The $100,000+ required to attend, as well as the 10 days involved, can be better spent elsewhere – such as in our search for qualified distributors.


Second, Wuzheng North America, LTD. hereby states the bare-minimum to become an authorized Wuzheng Distributor;


There is no charge for a territory – territory will be determined at Wuzheng NA’s discretion


Minimum of 10 vehicles ordered and paid for with signing of Reseller Agreement


Potential distributor must be "qualified, ready, willing and able"


Equity positions available to established Resellers only


Third, Multiple changes, modifications, option suggestions have been made, 90% of which from potential distributors that have never committed to becoming a distributor! Wuzheng North America LTD. has previously announced generally and/or informed individually of acceptance of certain changes. We wish to clarify these as follows;


Cummins Engine – The standard 4-cylinder turbocharged diesel in the Series 5 truck (as well as the 6 cylinder for the series 6) has been tested, refined, and finalized. This 4-cylinder engine is a US-only engine, rated at 125HP and 240 ft/lbs of torque. The numbers don’t seem that impressive – all I can say is, once you drive it, you will realize that it is more than enough. We will continue to offer the Cummins 5.9 engine – but at a mark-up of $8000.


Allison Transmission - We will no longer offer the Allison transmission.


Automatic Transmission – There is no longer any plan to install automatic transmissions in these vehicles in the immediate future (2007)


Colors – Trucks come in Blue and White only.


Air Conditioning – Vehicles do not now, nor will they in the immediate future be available with air conditioning.


Miscellaneous – Truck do not now, nor will they in the immediate future come with leather seats, CD player, navigation system, air bags, electric windows, moon roofs, cruise control, carbon-fiber trim, change holders, electric mirrors, convertible top, automatic antennae, aluminum rims, cruise missiles, or chrome trim.


Fourth, As stated previously, we will not sell individual vehicles to end users directly from our Easton facility. However, we understand the reluctance of potential distributors in committing to ten vehicles prior to fully testing an example. Therefore, to those interested in acquiring a territory, we will sell one fully US-ready vehicle for testing/demonstration. This vehicle will be fully ready-to-title, with Certificate of Origin, and will be priced at retail. (Price will be refunded on execution of Reseller Agreement and return of un-titled vehicle)

Fifth, Time, patience (and money) have brought us to where we are today, a company with valuable exclusives to three Chinese automotive brands. These exclusive agreements are strong, and are not going anywhere. We have government approvals and certifications. We have no debt, no investors, no one who has paid up-front for a territory. We are returning to what got us here – a slow, methodical, purposeful progression, with the end result to be the marketing and sale of a simple, good, quality tool – diesel work trucks. The responsibility and blame for our recent stray from the course is fully my own.

Sixth, Wuzheng North America LTD. has been offered a very substantial state grant for continued operations, infrastructure, training, etc. Almost simultaneously, we have been approached by a nation-wide group of automotive dealers interested in this project. Although the outcome is of course uncertain, we are now in a position to prepare the means for this project to be enormously successful, more specifically the parts, sales, service, parts, and parts divisions. Did we mention parts also?

I strongly believe in these vehicles. I just as strongly believe that, without an iron-clad service and parts network, as well as a qualified, motivated distributor network, this venture will not succeed.

Being the size that we are, we are able to immediately address issues of concern, and change or modify course when needed. However, being this size also allows us to see our limitations; we continue our search for qualified individuals who wish to be part of this venture.

I thank you sincerely for taking the time to read this.

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Hello all from over the pond!
My name is Ken and I have been in the Commercial Truck Business for over ten years now. It looks to me that the trucks are over here already?
1) How are sales so far? Numbers last year?
2) How hard or how much to get started?
It looks like you get alot of truck for around $20,000 Dollars American!

Hi Ken welcome to CCF :)

WuzhengNA will answer your questions ;)

Moving thread to Truck section ;)

Sorry didn't notice the truck forum area. I read most of what I needed from the threads in this area. From what I read it looks like the trucks haven't been sold to end users yet???? If there is ever a truck in the greater Cleveland area I have contacts with most of the commercial dealers and many end users in this area. Between the two I am very sure one of the Dealers in this area would go for 10 units.:thumb:

Welcome to CCF, blue dragon!! I hope you have good luck getting a chinese truck in the USA!!!

Hello all from over the pond!
My name is Ken and I have been in the Commercial Truck Business for over ten years now. It looks to me that the trucks are over here already?
1) How are sales so far? Numbers last year?
2) How hard or how much to get started?
It looks like you get alot of truck for around $20,000 Dollars American!

They are here, Ken. Our largest obstacle thus far has been finding qualified distributors. Everyone who sees the vehicles wants a part of this, few have shown the ability to do so. ($$$$$$)

Feel free to email me at mjp at wuzheng dot com

Hi, Does anyone know of someone who actually has a Wuzheng truck from WuzhengNA or a distributors phone number or contact besides WuzhengNA? thanks

Does anyone know if WuzhengNA is still doing business? Considering they were so successful?? Website is gone and I can't get hold of anyone....Thanks

I am 100% sure they are still in business - I noticed their website said they were going to redesign it again last time I checked (a few days ago)

Try again on monday, perhaps they are not working weekends ;)

Does anyone know if WuzhengNA is still doing business? Considering they were so successful?? Website is gone and I can't get hold of anyone....Thanks


Scott / Brett C - Website is down because we are updating & upgrading our line - but you knew that because I emailed & told you.

I have not replied to your emails because you do not have the money to obtain a distributorship, you know this, I know this, and we are not in a position to "let's make a deal" a distributorship for you.

If you have the ability to move forward, contact me. Otherwise?

To WuzhengNA: Mike, C'mon I do have the money and you know that from my last emails. You also are aware that I have financial institutes available to finance them or lease them to end-users!The deal would have been done but YOU kept CHANGING the requirements,you know that. You also did not answer simple questions like " can I talk to an end-user or another distributor?" both reasonable requests that I asked for several times without you acknowledging them. The website was suppose to be down for 5 days not weeks. Thats fine if you don't want me as a distrbutor but telling everyone I don't have the funds is purely false ecspecially after our latest communications which you ended abruptly after those couple requests. Be Completely Honest with youself and others. Good luck and good riddance.

wuzhengNA stopped posting here and now if you goto their site it redirects to KAMA trucks

anyone from wuzheng willing to fill us in?

Same website, new contents.

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