Nanjing is launching a version of the old Rover Streetwise in China as an MG.
(http://jalopnik.com/cars/spy-photos/everything-old-is-mg-again-the-streetwise-in-china-239080.php).
Considering Nanjing still builds a car based on a 1984 Seat, the Streetwise is like a car of the future Haha, I love Jalopnik ,they're so funny.:D

Think the logo is photoshop ;)

I think it might turn into an Austin not an MG.


Yes, I like Jalopnik as well :), but they have made a mistake - that car has got very little to do with Honda, even the 1995 version was designed by Rover - the connection with Honda was the previous one to that which was a joint design.

You may be right about the badge mg-zs but after photoshoping it, Nanjing printed it out and stuck it on the car - the photograph is real!

Faux Crossover/Niche segment is wise to get into, its a profit business case ;)

Streetwise certainly got Citroen and VW fired up enough to bring out their own versions.

http://www.carmagazine.co.uk/images/article_images/MGStreetwise_1_560px.jpg
Recently shown to NAC management, this MG-badged Streetwise has reportedly been greeted warmly. Especially as demand for smaller cars is set to explode in China in the coming years.

Nanjing seem intent on slapping an MG badge on ANYTHING they see.

I think even they'd draw the line at an MG Punch!

That poor MG badge; it has been stuck on pretty indifferent automobiles in the past, but pretending a Rover 200 with large bits of plastic stuck on it is now an MG is absolutely cringe worthy. It does the marque no favours at all.

The last proper desirable MG was the MG RV8.

Now your credibility is truly shot! RV8 desirable? Take a 1962 body shell, leave the cart-horse suspension at the back, make a few styling tweaks to the wings and lights etc and stick some walnut and leather inside the cockpit, then give it some outdated cast-off V8 block and sell it for similar money to a TVR! Not surprising the British stayed away in droves and left it to the Anglophillic Japanese to take most of them.

Spakkaland, just out of interest, what are you into?

You know, I'm sure there is an engaging, upbeat spastic in you that we never see, hidden as he is on our forums beneath the Puppetland-the-bitter-and-boring-troll act. So, what forums do you hang out on where you're a positive contributor? Where you show passion and enthusiasm? Where you're welcomed, and fellow forum-ers look forward to your postings with interest?

I'd like to check those forums out and make my own contribution to them.

Now your credibility is truly shot! RV8 desirable? Take a 1962 body shell, leave the cart-horse suspension at the back, make a few styling tweaks to the wings and lights etc and stick some walnut and leather inside the cockpit, then give it some outdated cast-off V8 block and sell it for similar money to a TVR! Not surprising the British stayed away in droves and left it to the Anglophillic Japanese to take most of them.


The MG RV8 had all the characteristics that one associates with a proper MG - hence the reason that the residuals on these models remain strong, and the car sought after in certain circles.

Your comments seem to indicate that by sticking an MG badge on an old Honda Civic, or Rover 75, makes them more acceptable as an 'MG' than a rear wheel drive two seater sports car with a charismatic engine and leather trimmed interior. I don't think so.

If Nanjing are not careful, they could end up making MG the most embarrassing automobile marque - ever!

An MG Streetwise. Whatever next?

I think it is more and more visable that Nanjing is not at all interested in the sporty image of MG, it just wants to produce a kind of Rover vehicles, aiming at the same "English" image as Shanghai (Roewe). That's why they speak about 'Modern Englishman', that's why they choose the Rover grille for their MG 7, that's why they are interested in the Streetwise. Initially they didn't plan to make the TF, the foreigners are so interested in the revival of the TF.

Sorry, I meant "Modern Gentlemen" in stead of Modern Englishmen

I think it is more and more visable that Nanjing is not at all interested in the sporty image of MG, it just wants to produce a kind of Rover vehicles, aiming at the same "English" image as Shanghai (Roewe).

They've made no secret of this, indeed they've said so publically, which is why Spakkaland's disingenuous dismay at the proposed Streetwise-based NAC-MG crossover vehicle is so risible.

They can put the badge on what they like. It's their brand now. I wish them well.

Had NAC approached BMW for the Rover badge, the same outcome as SAIC would have resulted with NAC not getting it, so badging saloons as MGs is the only alternative. That said, Austin is also an option to them, and one I also hope they will use and leave MG to have some sporting credentials. But if MG means Modern Gentleman to a Chinese buyer and is a Streetwise, fine, I can deal with that so long as NAC-MG also respect the need to have sporting saloons and sports car for Western markets. Afterall, while all the opinonated Poms were deriding MG Rovers, the overseas markets never saw it the same way.

Seamaster is right, NAC-MG have every right to do what they will with the brand. Afterall, they are interested the huge growing market in China, and the concerns of a few bearded members that think an MG is a two-seater are of little issue to them, as it was of little issue to the Phoenix 4. If the beardies had had control of the brand, then it would follow Cadillac, Mercedes and Jaguar into relative obscurity chasing an ever aging market trying to recapture their youth in some open top two-seater on leaf springs! Undoubtedly, like Morgan, MG could have had a full order book if they had reduced operations to some small barn making a few MG RV8s every month. You can't blame NAC-MG, they're just picking up the pieces of a failed British operation - and why had it failed? Because negative attitudes such as yours couldn't see beyond your self-opinionated pipe and sense of superiority so typical of Poms!

What all the beardies forget is that Cecil Kimber took a humdrum Morris and stuck an MG badge on it - the whole ethos of MG! Of course two seater rag tops hold their residuals well, compare a 60s E-type to a comparable Jaguar saloon. Thanks to post-War US buyers, MG has become the generic term for a little two seater open top! Saloons have always sold alongside the sports car with the exception of the 70s.

You cannot make a statement that RV8 is desirable because it has good residuals, if you look at the fact that so many are for sale at any one time, it's obvious that the owners are not that enamoured with them otherwise they'd be hanging onto them. there were at least 3 up for sale this weekend at an MG show, there's a few in the club magazine, too, currently. I know a good few owners that have bought them and sold them on within a year - I wonder why! And with so few built in the first place, and the limited number originally sold in the UK, this keeps the prices artificially inflated against the much cheaper Japanese RV8 re-imports. And more to the point, what was the RV8, other than an elegant 60s design with some tacky plastic bits stuck on it in an attempt to play on some outdated belief that the B was actually good and desirable. Oh, I do love the irony of the Japanes RV8 sporting a Rover badge! :lol: :rolleyes:

Now whether my comments lead you to think I thought an MG Zed is more desirable than a B, well work it out for yourself! The RV8 is so contrary to Kimber's original vision that it is laughable. MG was about getting the most out of small 4 and 6 cylinder engines, and applying the Safety Fast ethos to basic cars. As you, like all the beardies forget, it was not about attempting some American Muscle Car the lazy way with a hefty great inefficient V8 under the bonnet. The MGs that fetch silly money way up into the £50 k or more are the rare small engined, supercharged cars and there are plenty of pre-War saloons that fetch way more than some tacky RV8 retro effort.

What the MG Zed range did was re-invigorate the MG brand and bring in a younger audience, some of which have also found their way into the MG classic scene. The Zed may not be desirable to the average beardy but enough younger blood will surely open the way to mass production.

I think it is more and more visable that Nanjing is not at all interested in the sporty image of MG...
How can you say that when they are producing press releases like this: http://news.sohu.com/20070228/n248417546.shtml

You need a very sporty MG to beat a Ferrari!

But 10.73 seconds for 0 - 166 Kph and back to 0 must count as very sporty!

Yes you are right, Windy, they write about the glorious and sportive past of MG, (they even use photos of old MG's on their website) but I think these writings about MG's past are opposit their present "British gentleman" strategy in China. But maybe I am wrong or maybe they are changing their minds, as they did with the survival of the TF.
(Yes, I surely know you can drive fast with an MG, as my MG ZT-T 260 can prove you and as they proved with it, 359 km/h in Utah)

Undisguised MG 3:

http://s2.mojalbum.com/kitajci-20-foto_4219952_17405830_18166137.jpg
http://img.autohome.com.cn/upload/spec/3177/u_3177597752554.jpg
http://s2.mojalbum.com/kitajci-20-foto_4219952_17405830_18166134.jpg
http://img.autohome.com.cn/upload/spec/3177/u_3177202962044.jpg
http://s2.mojalbum.com/kitajci-20-foto_4219952_17405830_18166135.jpg
http://img.autohome.com.cn/upload/spec/3177/u_3177552634961.jpg
http://s2.mojalbum.com/kitajci-20-foto_4219952_17405830_18166136.jpg
http://img.autohome.com.cn/upload/spec/3177/u_3177568214449.jpg

I think we need a picture of the new MG-3 rally car too :)

http://pix.crash.net/motorsport/view/357485.jpg

according to austin-rover's latest news...Nanjing will only build the MG3, if they get investment or the merger with SAIC goes ahead.

I say they refresh the int and ext and build it!!!

according to austin-rover's latest news...Nanjing will only build the MG3, if they get investment or the merger with SAIC goes ahead.
That might be true for building it at Longbridge, but this is expected to be their best selling model in China as not all Chinese people can afford a car like the MG-7! It should be in production before the end of the year.

Also that "merger" isn't a merger and little will happen on it until well into next year. It is a partnership, similar to the Rover-Honda partnership of a few years ago.

I think your find some what of a differance between Honda and SAIC!
Mega

Not so much of a difference between the Honda of the early 1980s and the SAIC of today.

Do you see?

WOW cool S2000 Rally MG :D

They look quite nice :)

I take it that its a China only Job?
Shame they didn't re-skin it then they could have thought about exports to UK.
Mega

its a cute city car if ur on a budget:)

I doubt MG cars will be cheap. In Europe Rovers were more expensive than competition, though technologicaly outdated.

This Is from Keith Adams site in ENGLAND:-
By STEVEN WARD

We'd saved and we'd decided; we were going to have a new ZR with all the bells and whistles once the facelifted versions were announced. Leaving aside the awful practice of buying a car from a delaership (I think we settled on the 9th dealership) we ordered. And waited until September 1st had been and gone, some 3 months after placing an order. This was unbelievable at the time; the new cars had been annouced and MG-R has misread the demands (from customers as well as creditors!) meaning frequent factory lay-off and go-slows.

Anyway, the car duly arrived and looked great, we'd ordered the lastest solid Red called 'Rio' (which proved to be loss leader for MG-R) complete with 'black burl' facia from the 25 range for an additional 10p! No sooner had the car arrived than the faults started, but how bad could they be when the car dove this well?.

Immediately we noticed the steering wheel was way off centre, the passenger door didn't fit, the throttle pedal had two modes -on and off, a rear speaker was blown and there were rattles from the driver's door, tailgate and dashboard. When it rained, more faults came to light, if the intermittant setting for wipers were selected, the new electric tailgate release would trigger, or the front fogs would flash. Occassionally, the air-con would come on itself. Then the front indicators filled with water and the headlights misted-up. Amusing until it irritated. The throttle pedal was fixed by routing the cable correctly and actually assembling the lower dash, the intermittant wipers problem was partially cured by fitting a supressor and the speaker replaced. The steering wheel was centred on the second attempt and the tailgate rattle was traced to a very lose lock, although the taligate never seemed to shut 'right'. However, by now it had taken to not starting and brimming the tank was tricky affair. The fuel tank issue was never sorted, MG-R had made a cheap plastic filler system that simply didn't work. We never bothered brimming the tank again as fuel nozzles never cut-off correctly resulting a a absolute dousing in sans plomb. 3 days later in the dealership couldn't trace the non-starting fault. Eventually, the AA diagnosed the fault; the start motor hadn't been fitted correctly and was falling out.

Grind away the lower cill seam to give clearance, thats the official fix that was carried out on the passenger side...

More faults came to light, the new stylish airvents didn't rotate, they were replaced, the air-con began to whistle, this would later become a howl, while the power steering growled. The sunvisors fell out, the headrest trims came apart, the internal door handles fell apart, the plastic seat trim snapped. Still, we poilished the car and noticed over-spray, mislaigned panels and bumpers. The 160 badge washed away and the MG badge delaminated. The bodyshell started to creak. Then without warning one night, a VVC camshaft snapped leaving us stranded. By now MG-R had gone bust, so we were without warranty, there were no dealers left in the north east. Adding insult to injury, we'd paid £575 for 3 years AA and servicing in advance which was now worthless. Mike Satur supplied the parts as these are no longer manufactured.......but more engine faults came to light. An incorrectly fitted cranksensor and a knackered primary O2 sensor.

The remote central locking was also giving us trouble. It was explained that MG-R had taken time to hide away the security electrics to slow theives, but failed to upgrade the remote handsets, hence the pitiful range. The rear Calipers were now starting to stick and howl, something that contiuned off and on throughout ownership. Still, the cars was now running again, although it seemed slightly hesitant at low revs. A change of ignition leads and the above mentioned Oxygen Sensor attempted to stop this without much sucess. We visited MG Sport And Racing where we bought a SV-esq front splitter and X-Power Springs and a ITG air intake system at vast expense. The bodyshop initially refused to paint the splitter as the quality was so poor. They refused to believe anything that bad could be described as Orignial Equipment. To this day, the quality of that splitter is a disappintment. The nice engineer who set-up ZR chassis knew nothing of the X-Power spring range and was miffed someone with the factory saw fit to mess with his spring rates. The ITG system was a pig to fit and seemed to pollute the oil at an alarming rate, although claims of an extra 10bhp felt true. The engine oil was changed at between 3k and 6k miles throughout its life. after 12k miles had accumulated it went across to mobil 1 oil with a full flush every second oil change.

The front end received two resprays while the rear just the one - the paint wasn't resiliant at all. Then the head Gasket started leaking externally. We were just about to do this when the second camshaft snapped on the motorway. Another new camshaft from the ever helpful Mike Satur. While the head was off, the some values need regrinding due to pitting - despite being run on BP petrol for the vast majority of the time. A third oxygen sensor was fitted along with new spark plugs to stop the low-rev stutter to no effect. This needed removing to be cleaned periodically. New software was uploaded to give the engine a lease of life. By now, the VVC mechanisms themselves was as loud as a cold L series at full chatter. I even fitted the diesel sound-proofing kit to save more embarrassment. As a active committee member for the local MGOC, people would come and ask what a Diesel ZR was like to drive so loud was the chatter. They were shocked when I said it was petrol. The lowest point was when a good friend and MG nutter who is a highly qualified engineer commented on the joke 160 badges on my 'diesel'. "ITS A PETROL" I said biting his head off much to both of our embarassment. MG-R had ignored its engineers concerns and denied an oil feed to the VVC mechanisms, while its labourers didn't give the required concern while assembling the units were the offical reasons for the death rattle.

The bodyshell was now groaning so much we bought a rear strut brace to quell the shake. However, it seemed to be too late - in wet conditions water would creap through the rear wheel arch seams. The top tailgate seems were going rusty and if the vehicle was on anything but straight ground, the doors wouldn't open perfect. The drivers door was now out of alignment and the window regulator was playing-up. The cure for the aligment? Grind away the lower cill seam to give clearance, thats the official fix that was carried out on the passenger side. The reason? MG-R skimpted on the thickness of the steel. The door card would now foul the rubber trim making getting in and out a real paint. You literally had to reattach the door card virtually each time the door was opened. The vehicle was now stutterling at low revs ever more violently. This was now making the doors creak on their hinges and latches. A quick tighten was need every 3k miles. Those latches and hinges wouldn't stay tight for some reason.

It stalled too easily and increasingly frequently too, no doubt related to that bloody stutter which seemed to affect starting. Oil consumption wasn't anything to write home about either, I tried to stem the leaks, but the rocker cover had stripped the threads for the bolts. Coolant was being lost again - this time due to the expansion cap failing along with hose clips. Both items cost-cutted by MG-R. It was turning into a nightmare. One day Melanie came home from work and was stuck in the car. The drivers door had snagged the trim and she couldn't force it while the motor on the passenger side had took to shrieking instead of actually working. Lastly, the gearknob had worn out, the most simple of things. It would fly off when a quick gearchange was executed, so too did the front bumper inserts around the indicators and fogs - they'd been inadquedly designed. Shockingly, given the type of the use the vehicle was subjected to, the full exhuast had rusted through in just 2 years- replacements are Original Equipent only for the 160. This meant X-Part and the cost was £300 alone for the back box. X-Part had whacked prices up to cover the soft-tooling programe which produced replacement panels with the demise of the factory. Never have I seen such a poor quality origninal exhaust system. The car had to go, but even selling it privately for less than 'trade' had not takers what-so-ever. Time then to trade it in, only no sensible dealer wanted it. Those who did insulted us. Eventually we part-exchanged it for an obsolete ex-rental Mondeo some 3 months before its third birthday, meaning it had shed some £10k in that short time. We always knew we'd bought a car which hemoraged cash, MG-R themselves lobbed 20% off the purchase price through their Privledge Vehicle Scheme the week we picked 'Rio' up. But to have lost £10k and suffered those faults is an awful lot to forgive.

And people wonder why the public stayed away from MG-R products in their droves.

I know that you have to write something negative every time MG or Rover is mentioned, but isn't that going a little bit too far Mega :confused:

(I see Keith Adams is away for a few weeks, so I guess it's the perfect time to post that on his site :D)

can somebody tell met what kind of engine there will come in the re-manufactured MG Rover streetwiss *the MR3 from NAC-MG.

I thought they also shiped the K-serie engines from the callopsed powertrain devision to China (Nanjing) and can build the K-serie engines who are in the original MG Rovers 25 (the streetwise) but is this correct??

I know that you have to write something negative every time MG or Rover is mentioned, but isn't that going a little bit too far Mega :confused:

(I see Keith Adams is away for a few weeks, so I guess it's the perfect time to post that on his site :D)


I didn't post it, i went to the MG laurch night in Liverpool. They had a ZR there, don't think i ever seen such a bad NEW car. The Doors wouldn't open unless you pulled HARD or if you were in the car you had to throw your sholder against it!

Govebox, the plastic was not even a match for a plastic toy you find in a Xmas cracker. Mind you Xmas cracker toys are made better than that!

They didn't offer test drives in it because it was SO bad!, The Seat tech's from the Seat Dealership next door were SHOCKED by its piss poor build.

If they offered it at a cheap price fine, but NO...they tried to get CTR money!

They were always going to fail!
Mega

can somebody tell met what kind of engine there will come in the re-manufactured MG Rover streetwiss *the MR3 from NAC-MG.

I thought they also shiped the K-serie engines from the callopsed powertrain devision to China (Nanjing) and can build the K-serie engines who are in the original MG Rovers 25 (the streetwise) but is this correct??
The engine will be a Euro 5 version of the MG Rover K-Series which they are calling the N-Series so basically the same as the Streetwise engine, in fact there may be an MG-3 Streetwise version. They will also be using the MG-Rover PG1 manual transmission as used on the 1.8L Rover Streetwise/MG ZR, I've seen nothing about any automatic transmission...

Shut up Mega, nobody is going to believe you even if you have a valid point if you keep making posts like that!

When I visited the factory in Nanjing in April they were testing a TF with CVT-tranmission, could be used in the MG 3 too?

Yes erik, the same CVT was used in the Rover 25 as in the TF so it could be used in the MG-3. I forgot about that because they never mention it in the list of things they bought so I guess they don't own the design but do have the rights to make it. It has a maximum power of 120ps I think.

Same CVT used in the faux "MINI", if memory serves.

Limited to use with a specially tuned 120PS variant of the K Series in the TF, as Windy observes. Very nice combination, though. I drove one in early 2005 and rather regret buying a 135 instead.

When I visited the factory in Nanjing in April they were testing a TF with CVT-tranmission, could be used in the MG 3 too?


I thought the World had moved on to DSG?
Mega

CVT has advantages as long as there is not too much torque.

I thought the World had moved on to DSG?
Mega

Negative.

Mercedes-Benz's newest auto transmission, for example, is CVT (and it's excellent).

MERC Admit that they are behind on DSG and are infact looking for somebody to help them with THEIR 8 speed DSG!
I Wish you get some thing right, just once1
Mega

Same CVT used in the faux "MINI", if memory serves.

And the transmission was rubbish - hence dropped on the R56. Did the MINI no favours at all but should probably suit the aged MG.

You quote a faux MINI but support a Chinese owned MG. :rolleyes:

Are you a bitter hypocrite? :nod: :nod:

None of CVT have EVER got got write ups to be fair, i can't understand WHY Nag are fooling around with it...............unless they been palmed off with it by some Westen Dog!

Mega
(Hi P)

Are you a bitter hypocrite?

Ask me again on Macdroitwich (http://www.phpbber.com/phpbb/search.php?search_id=newposts&mforum=macdroitwich), and I'll give you a FULL and FRANK answer, you SAD LITTLE MAN. Or don't you have the cojones, amigo? :nono: :nono:

Macdroitwich is full of people who actually think there is some merit in discussing old embarrassing BL relics like the Allegro, Maxi and Marina. :o :o Now, how sad is that? :confused:

Let me give you a lesson you can’t seem to grasp: the consequences of inflicting those very BL models onto the car buying public throughout the 1970s and 1980s is the very reason why BMW chucked Rover in the bin and the Chinese own what is left of the old BL empire. :nod:

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Don't think we seethe ZR again, still what MG needs is a furgal 1.4 K series TURBO. AS i remember the 1.4 didn't suffer too much from HGF, thus a Turbo unit would be the way to go.
Mega

The ZR is comming back as the MG-3 at the end of the year with "furgal" 1.1, 1.4 and 1.6 engines according to the rumors. There is also talk of a 1.8 sports version and of course the 2L 4WD Rally car (non-turbo MG N-Series engine with over 250bhp).



http://www.rallye-info.com (http://www.rallye-info.com/)

MSD is really accelerating with that MG S2000 project. The project only came to us a few weeks ago as a rumour. Now we learn that Alex Bengué is in contact with the MG Rover consortium. Asking what means "in contact" it turns out he is happy with how talks are going, they are into details already and it looks 95% definite Alex will debut the car in Rallye du Valais! This may be the only IRC start this year.
MG Rover is now Chinese owned and the owners wanted a debut on the China Rally with a local driver. While it is sad that MG Rover is no more its own British entity, it appears to its consortium owners have a lot more sense than the horror we sadly hear of most of the Chinese car makers. Chinese car makers have quickly gained a name that they just steal European designs and make cars that are utterly unsafe. In a rare move in Europe, several car brands are joining forces to sue the Chinese car makers in question altogether. Whatever the name of the consortium, the MG Rover owners now have changed mind. They don't want a Chinese driver now, because they want to develop their car with a front line driver. They don't necessarily want the car on the China Rally, since they came to believe the car should first be competitive on asphalt and it is easier to turn a good hard- surface car working on gravel than the other way round. Plus asphalt is better marketing for road car customers, although that does not necessarily apply to the Chinese market. And that is also why the Chinese (they must have looked at the scene carefully) wanted Alex Bengué for now. There are even considerations of Alex and MG starting the WRC Rally Ireland rather than IRC China, tho at the moment this is just a wild idea. At least there should be a team presentation on the last two WRC events, which may mean they are also interested in a PWRC program 2008. That is only rumour at the moment, but fact is MG Rover want to do a full 2008 IRC program with a 2-car team. The candidates may be asphalt ace Alex Bengué and likely one of those rare British drivers with talent who has not fallen off the sky yet, with maybe a 3rd car for a Chinese driver possibly only on the events outside Europe (lesser supported events = also more likely for the Chinese driver to find attention)... Well, so far all sounds extremely sensible to me!

Yes, but i can't see them being imported to the UK, they have to be Type approved would they not?
Mike

True, they would need the full type approval done so the UK is unlikely to get the current version, we will the first updated version.

http://www.kitcarsweb.com/zajimavosti/gallery/64/14.jpg


Videos of the new MG3 in final testing - (the quick version http://forums.mg-rover.org/images/smilies/yikes.gif)

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=Vj7BwW...related&search (http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=Vj7BwWUUlSg&mode=related&search)=

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=QZ4f0X...related&search (http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=QZ4f0XF66b0&mode=related&search)=

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=CKXYF4...related&search (http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=CKXYF4BuQVE&mode=related&search)=


2L 270bhp 4wd

WHEN?
Mega

It seems NAC is also planning Cross version of MG3:

http://s2.mojalbum.com/kitajci-20-foto_4219952_17405830_18166140.jpg
http://img.autohome.com.cn/2007/10/9/9-14-17-4-116612750.jpg
http://s2.mojalbum.com/kitajci-20-foto_4219952_17405830_18166142.jpg
http://img.autohome.com.cn/2007/10/9/9-14-17-6-865787256.jpg
http://s2.mojalbum.com/kitajci-20-foto_4219952_17405830_18166141.jpg
http://img.autohome.com.cn/2007/10/9/9-14-17-4-879957638.jpg

MG3 Crossover was officialy presented at Guangzhou Auto Show. Prices are expected to be from 70,000rmb to 110,00rmb. It's a revived old English Rover Streetwise.
http://s2.mojalbum.com/kitajci-foto_4219952_7117451_10157181.jpg
http://s2.mojalbum.com/kitajci-foto_4219952_7117451_10157178.jpg
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http://s2.mojalbum.com/kitajci-foto_4219952_7117451_10157134.jpg

http://s2.mojalbum.com/kitajci-foto_4219952_7117451_10157147.jpg
http://s2.mojalbum.com/kitajci-foto_4219952_7117451_10157144.jpg
http://s2.mojalbum.com/kitajci-foto_4219952_7117451_10157140.jpg

Rover Streetwise:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rover_Streetwise
http://www.aronline.co.uk/index.htm?streetwisef.htm

http://www.aronline.co.uk/images/streetwise_01.jpg

An MG?

:nono:

Let it go, little man. It's their brand now.

Some more pictures of MG3 Crossover.
http://s2.mojalbum.com/kitajci-foto_4219952_7117451_10241923.jpg
http://s2.mojalbum.com/kitajci-foto_4219952_7117451_10241920.jpg
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MG3:
http://s2.mojalbum.com/kitajci-foto_4219952_7117451_10241980.jpg
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MG3 test session:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Zoiz2Xg4F4&feature=related :lol:

For more details on the MG S2000 see www.mad-world.com (http://www.msd-world.com/)

MG S2000 - "an incredible eighth fastest overall, beating a number of World Rally Cars!"

Source: crash.net (http://www.crash.net/motorsport/wrc/news/157896-0/pwrc_jones_im_disappointed_but.html)

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Stuart Jones showed good pace with the new MG on the Rally GB until his off on day 2, which left his co-driver, Andy Bull with a broken collarbone.

Stuart Jones impressed on his debut in the new MSD-built MG Super 2000 Sport last weekend despite crashing out of the Wales Rally GB in the penultimate stage on day 2.

The 22-year-old, who was the only Welsh driver contesting the
Production World Rally Championship this year, only had limited testing in the brand new car prior to the event, however he was not concerned and his strategy showed real maturity.

A cautious approach to the opening day of competition, run in the hills above Swansea, saw Jones - co-driven by Andy Bull, face some of the most atrocious weather conditions experienced in many years. A puncture in the third stage cost the pair valuable time but they returned to service in twelfth position.

Feeling comfortable with the car and the conditions the former Peugeot Sport Cup champion opted to increase his pace in the afternoon, taking his first top ten time of the rally on the second run through Resolfen.

The final stage of the day, Rheola 2, was run completely in the dark and with most of the crews experiencing heavy fog this was truly a test of driver, co-driver and machine against the elements. Jones though excelled, posting not only the second fastest Production class time but also going an incredible eighth fastest overall, beating a number of World Rally Cars.

Day two saw the crews tackle another six stages and with his confidence building by the stage Jones was beginning to set some impressive top ten times. Despite losing his power steering halfway through the last test of the morning he was now inside the points.

A top three time through Crychan in the afternoon showed how fast he was adjusting to the new breed of car and was not only outpacing the other Super 2000 spec cars on the event but was also impressively climbing up the leaderboard to sixth overall in the PWRC class.

However, once again his luck didn't last and after losing his power steering in the last stage of the day, he drifted a little bit wide on a fast bend and was unable to turn back on to the road. Jones then slide off and hit a mound of earth with quite some force, an impact that ended his event and left Bull with a broken collar-bone.

“I feel sorry for Stu because we'd actually backed off through that stage,” Bull explained. “The impact was quite big and once the world had stopped moving I could feel this incredible pain in my shoulder. It's a clean break so should heal no problem.

“The car was great though and we both thoroughly enjoyed the experience. I'm really impressed with how fast Stuart adapted to the flat shift and adjusted his driving style to suit the high revving car.”

Jones was also keen to look on the bright side: “I'm disappointed that our rally ended this way but I can't help but draw so many positives from the weekend,” he continued. “The MG Super 2000 Sport is the best handling car I have ever driven. Hopefully we have shown that it has potential and I'm certain that the MG can be comfortably competitive with Group N cars.”

MSD team principal David Whitehead meanwhile was philosophical about how things turned out: “Stuart did a great job and his feedback was really helpful. His two top three times certainly gave us something to cheer about. The power steering problem will be easy to cure. It's inevitable for a brand new car to have teething problems but we've shown it can run at the front,” he concluded.

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Jones is now examining his options for next season and an announcement is expected soon.

GUANGZHOU, China — Nanjing MG has unveiled a new model, the MG3 SW, a compact crossover vehicle shown previously as the MG3 Streetwise.

The new hatchback goes into production in early 2008, joining the premium MG7 sedan and MG TF roadster. The MG portfolio will grow further in 2009 with the introduction of the MG5 sedan.

The MG3 SW will be offered in the China market with a choice of 1.4- and 1.8-liter four-cylinder engines.

Nanjing MG, which is expected to be absorbed eventually into the Shanghai Auto Group, has the capacity to build about 65,000 MG3s a year.


sorce:edmunds.com -Novemeber 2007

Three models of the MG3 to go on the market soon.

NAC MG seems to be getting itself in gear post SAIC take over. The MGTF launch seems to have been postponed until better weather arrives (it was scheduled for a Sept launch, but who wants to buy a soft top car for winter use?) but we’re hearing the TF is set for a spring launch, which sounds about right. The MG3 however, is set to go on the market very soon according to the Chinese motoring press.

Three different versions of the MG3 are set to launch with the prices spread from 80,000rmb to 120,000rmb which puts the MG3 up against the SX4, Polo, Nissan Livina, etc in the Chinese market place. We dont know if MG has plans to export this model to any other market other than the Chinese one, but we do know the MG3 will come as a ‘normal’ (Rover 25) model, a sports model (MGZR) and the MG3 Crossover (Rover Streetwise)

China Car Times quite likes the looks of the new MG3 Crossover, its been updated quite well and NAC MG should expect some good sales of it, given that Chinese consumers are currently lapping up crossover type vehicles.

The MGZR, is set to be the sports model, it has a 1.8 engine (perhaps a 1.4 as well?) and the option of either 5 speed manual, or a 1.8t Auto CVT gearbox (we hear this gearbox will also find a home in the MGFT)

The standard MG3 is confusing, it might have either the 1.4 or the 1.8 motor, NAC MG havent confirmed anything of yet. Perhaps they would like to via CCT?

source: China Car Times

The MG3 SW is set to formally go on the market on March 12th 2008, priced at a reasonable 80,000 to 120,000rmb. When China Car Times first heard of NAC’s plan to relaunch the Streetwise, we were dubious - could they pull off re-releasing such an old car? The answer is clearly yes, as the MG3 was looking good at the Guangzhou Auto Show, and looks pretty damned good.

The Streetwise is set to come with either a 1.4 engine paired to a manual gearbox, or the larger 1.8 engine with a CVT gearbox. The Streetwise is actually pretty well placed in China to take on the latest wave of mini crossover vehicles such as the SX4, Polo Cross, and perhaps even the Nissan Qashqai (once launched). MG dealers are reportedly accepting deposits of 5000rmb for the MG3 SW!

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MG3 SW:
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Hey All,

Any further word on the MGZR? - It looks like the 1.8 will be for sure, but probably not the 2L? ;-) Do you know if they will hit the dealerships soon?

not a fan of this car, looks sort of like the hyundai accent or KIA rio

Hey All,

Any further word on the MGZR? - It looks like the 1.8 will be for sure, but probably not the 2L? ;-) Do you know if they will hit the dealerships soon?

id say the 2.0 will happen and the 1.8 wont according to what other car manfucaturers are doing these days

Yeah - Im not a huge fan of the looks either...
Then again for 130K rmb getting you the top end version (MGZR with a 2L?) - Im not sure you can really beat that value?? Im somewhat wondering about reliability & dealership service though - it might be smarter for me to just pony up the extra 30-40K rmb and just get a Honda Civic?

Speaking about about the Civic (sorry hopefully not violating any rules since this is an MG form) - Does anyone know if the Civic Type R really did make it to China for around 180K rmb?

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hmmm...guess Im not allow to post links yet .....
A copy n' past from the source - China Car Times: ***************************************


Honda Civic Type R
Published by Ash April 1st, 2007 in Chinese Car News. 9 Comments
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Boy racers all over China must be rejoicing at this little tidbit of information, the Honda Civic Type R is coming to China. However the Civic Type R wont be made in China via the Dongfeng/Honda joint venture but rather imported directly from Japan with a price tag of 180,580rmb which actually isnt as high as you would think.

Unfortunately for Chinese street racers, the Chinese police are having a bit of a crackdown on racers that dare to drive their cars at upto 150kph! Terrifying indeed. The Honda Type R will really shake up the street racing seen when it arrives, and will certainly give those modified SouEast Galants a run for their money.

Hey All,

Any further word on the MGZR? - It looks like the 1.8 will be for sure, but probably not the 2L? ;-) Do you know if they will hit the dealerships soon?
MG does not have a 2L engine - the 1.8 is faster than most 2.0 anyway!

The first versions will be 1.4 Manual and 1.8 Auto and will be in the dealers probably next month, the ZR version (probably 1.8 Manual) is expected around September.

The MG3 ZR with 1.4 liter engine (76 kW/103 bhp):

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It's the Sports version of the MG3 SW at the Beijing Show:

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That "Sport" model of the MG3 ought to draw a lot of interest from those attending the Beijing Auto Show. The extra front end grille treatment gives it a nice new flair.

Think alot of tuning people will buy that bonnet for there Zr Or Rover 200/25

MG 3SW goes on sale in China from 80,000 yuan

June 23, 2008 - Shanghai Automotive Industry Corp (SAIC) started to sell MG 3SW crossover in China from today. The price of the model will range from 80,000 yuan ($11,428) - 120,000 yuan.

The car comes with two engine choices: a 1.4-liter four and a 1.8-liter four. The 1.4-liter delivers 102 horsepower and 91 pound-feet of torque. The larger 1.8-liter engine offers 118 horsepower with torque coming in at 118 pound-feet.

Apart from the mature MG 3SW and MG TF launched in late May, SAIC-owned MG is set to roll out another new model in late 2009 and will launch one new model each year by 2011.

source: Gasgoo.com

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Test drive + more pics: http://auto.sohu.com/s2008/testmg3sw/

Mg3 SW 1.4:
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The MG3 SW is extremly popular in china until now - you can see it ever day at least 100 times on the street- young single man as well as young chinese couples with a mid level income love this car.It is fighting against the Peugeot 206/207 on the market since it first came out.
Now after the price was dropped down a lil bit the sales are going through the roofs.
The basic version with a 1.4 liter machine reacts fast and the car has the perfect look for chinese opinion.
A renewed version of the MG3 is supposed to be relased beginning of next year according to local Chengdu dealerships.
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