Introducing: HEBEI XINKAI

[Vladimir-S]

Hello!
What can you say about Xin-Kai?
There were sold about 400 trucks and SUVs of this chinese plant in Russia. Then import stops because of very bad quality of these trucks! And now rumors of bad quality of Xin-Kai goes for Great Wall Auto cars, ZX Admiral, Chery - all chinese cars.

[pokershark]

Xin-Kai? i never heard of it, do you know another name for it?
maybe there are 2 names for it?

[Vladimir-S]

Here Xinkai official web-site (I don't know chinese language).
http://www.hbxk.com

Here their cars:
http://www.globalautoindex.com/maker.plt?no=2394&g=Xinkai

Here Xinkai logo
http://www.xinkai-online.ru/zadmin_data/element.image/7324.jpg

Company name: Hebei Xinkai Automobile Manufacturing Co.
Address: No. 79 South Avenue, Gaobeidian, Hebei 074000
Tel: +86-312-281-3297
Fax: +86-312-283-8353
E-mail: mail@hbxk.com
URL: www.hbxk.com

[Admin]

is xinkai very popular in russia?? when u search for xinkai you get many russian sites dedicated to xinkai,

is xinkai more popular than ZXauto and Greatwall motor in Russia??

[edge]

I have never heard of it.

[Vladimir-S]

is xinkai very popular in russia?? when u search for xinkai you get many russian sites dedicated to xinkai, is xinkai more popular than ZXauto and Greatwall motor in Russia??
No!
There is no Xinkai in Russia any more. Only about 400 cars (trucks and SUVs) were sold in 2005. Now import of them is closed because of very bad quality.
Xinkai is just one of the 1st chinese car in Russia - that's why there so many russsian web-sites. And actually of it's bad quality many people think that other chinese cars are of bad quiality too! Great Wall is quite popular. ZX Admiral less popular (because of broblems with spare parts and sometimes not good quality, and price is higher than Great Wall).

[Admin]

Honda to file lawsuit over China's decision to reject CR-V patent application


- Honda Motor Co said it will file a lawsuit against China's State Intellectual Property Office (SIPO) over the patent authority's decision to invalidate the Japanese carmaker's copyright application for its CR-V sports-utility vehicle (SUV).

The company said the SIPO recently ruled that the exterior design patent application for its CR-V model is invalid because the new design is too similar to the original version, thus likely to confuse buyers, said Honda.

But the company insists that it has made remarkable improvements to the model and the new version is obviously different from the old one.

Honda began to make the first CR-V cars in 1995 and launched its new version in 2001.

At the end of 2004, the Japanese carmaker
filed lawsuits against two Chinese automakers, Shijiazhuang Shuanghuan Automobile Co and Hebei Xinkai Automobile Manufacturing Co -- two small-sized car producers based in the northern province of Hebei -- alleging that they copied the exterior design of the Honda CR-V model.

Currently no judgement has been made on the lawsuits.

Honda added that to date, it has sold 2.4 mln CR-V vehicles globally

[Raul]

HEBEI XINKAI is a small Chinese company making various types of SUV's and pickup's. I don't have much information about this company but here's something. Xinkai exported about 400 cars to Russia in 2005. These were models X3 Pickup HXK1021 and X3 SUV HXK6490. Quality was crap.

Xinkai website is : http://www.hbxk.com/

No information in English available.

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FACTS:


- founded in 1984

- company re-organized in 1992

- in 1999 another company re-organization

- capacity is about 30 000 cars / year

- workforce: 350 people

- production in 2004: c.5000 cars

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MODELS:


These are the models currently available:


SUV:

- HXK6490 "XK Star". At least four different looks. Isuzu-based.
- HXK6490 "SRV" (CRV -copy)
- HXK2031 "Eagle Prince". This model is also made by Beijing (BAW). It's a
copy of Land Cruiser 90. In production since 2002.
- HXK2023E "Xiong Feng Xilie". Sourced from BAW. Old Jeep Cherokee with a new face style.

Pick-Up:

- HXK1021 (Isuzu-based). Two different faces.

Van:

- HXK6490 "HaiShi KeChe" is a "Hiace". Two different looks.
- A bus similar to Toyota Coaster. Model name unknown.

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PICTURES:


Good pictures are hard to find.


http://www.made-in-china.com/showimages/111/400062562/0/Double_Cab_Pickup_(Xinkai).jpg
HXK1021 Pick-Up. This model was sold in Russia.

http://www.xinkai-online.ru/zadmin_data/cars.show_image/7569.jpg
HXK6490 "X3". One of the newest models.

http://www.hbxk.com/cp/lywz.jpg
HXK2031 "Eagle Prince". Model from Beijing (BAW).

http://4x4.ba/images/20041010073559.jpg
HXK6490 "SRV". Honda sued Xinkai because of this copycat model.

[Raul]

No!
There is no Xinkai in Russia any more. Only about 400 cars (trucks and SUVs) were sold in 2005. Now import of them is closed because of very bad quality.
Xinkai is just one of the 1st chinese car in Russia - that's why there so many russsian web-sites. And actually of it's bad quality many people think that other chinese cars are of bad quiality too! Great Wall is quite popular. ZX Admiral less popular (because of broblems with spare parts and sometimes not good quality, and price is higher than Great Wall).

What Xinkai models were sold in Russia ?? I made a new thread about Xinkai and collected some information there.

[Vladimir-S]

Nearly all the users of Xinkai agree that they have VERY bad quality. And cars imported for the first time was even worse! Cars was of 2 models: Xinkai Pickup X3 and Xinkai SUV-X3. These Xinkai cars was more expensive than a much better Great Wall cars!

[Raul]

Thanks for the info :thumb:

Vladimir, what can you tell me about Derways 313120 "Shuttle"? It is a Chinese Land Cruiser copy made by Dadi. When was this co-operation started ? What Dadi models are sold in Russia ? How is the quality ?? How many cars sold ?? :confused:

[Vladimir-S]

Thanks for the info :thumb:
Vladimir, what can you tell me about Derways 313120 "Shuttle"?....

You're welcome any time! :thumb:
OK! I'll try to write averything I know about Dadi.

Dadi Shuttle = Derways 313120 "Shuttle"
Derways is small russian company with an owner - ex-vodka maker. The plant (actually they only assemle them) is located in Cherkessk in Kavkaz region.
Their previous model - Cowboy was really expensive, ugly and not really good quiality. Here's the link to photo http://www.theautochannel.com/news/2004/02/17/180922.2-lg.jpg

If you want to see some photos and tech in Russian about all Dadi cars - go here:http://www.chinamobil.ru/dadi/
In our russian forum we have no users of this car! But we've got one seller. I don't remember now - maybe they started to sell it in Ukraine!

About quality of Derways 313120 "Shuttle" (Dadi Shuttle) - opinions is different. One man saw it for the short period of time and says everything's ok! Another man saw it in a car repair garage and says that car have very bad quality. But actually the last man doesn't like chinese cars at all. So we don't know the truth about Dadi now!

Price is about 20-22 thousand $.

[Raul]

Is the production of Cowboy 3131 still going on ?? In Derways website they are confident that a production level of 5000 cars per year will be achieved by the end of 2004.

http://www.derways.ru/eng/model_line.shtml

It will be interesting to see how well (Derways) Dadi cars will sell !

[Vladimir-S]

Is the production of Cowboy 3131 still going on ??

They stoped production of Cowboy.
About Dadi Shuttle. I Think that they will not be very popular in Russia. Just because there are already Great Wall . I think Hover or even Safe (SUV) is better buy than Dadi Shuttle. HOVER - price is nearly the same, well known quality (good), better quipment of car (music, ...), same 2.4L engine, and MUCH more good-looking car, better design.

Maybe another model of Dadi will be popular? I don't know.

[ash]

well i guess some people liked xinkais since many xinkai russian clubs

[Vladimir-S]

Maybe 1 or 2 people really like Xinkai. I don't know.
Actually there's only 1 "Club of chinese cars lovers" or just "Xinkai club".http://www.xinkai-club.ru/ It's called "Xinkai club" because the very first member and the starter of this club has a Xinkai car. Now he owns Great Wall Safe (SUV). Xinkai is dead.
There are also 3 main forums in Russia (mostly Moscow) where we discuss chinese cars. And all the people are nearly the same at all these forums:
1) http://www.xinkai-club.ru/ - mostly for Great Wall cars and some ZX Admirals
2) http://www.chinamobil.ru/ - mostly for Chery Flagcloud and Great Wall cars, some ZX Admirals
3) http://wwwboards.auto.ru/china/ - mostly for Great Wall cars. Not many people active.

[Admin]

good clubs, tell them that we love to know more about xinkai and gwm on these boards :)

[starex]

A lot of pick ups makers there...

[AXLE]

I would take the eagle prince as it looks like it is a previous gen landcrusier prado.

[dragin]

http://4x4.ba/images/20041010073559.jpg
HXK6490 "SRV". Honda sued Xinkai because of this copycat model.

That SRV has a "Dadi" logo but it does look just like Xinkai's (and other maker's)model that I have seen.(can't upload the photo since it's too large and I'm an ignoramus about photo file resizing).

Over at Fuqi Auto we can see that someone sold it the old Toyota Landcruiser dies, but who was it that sold the CR-V dies to all these companies.....?

As for the other Xinkai SUV's and pickups shown here, I'm guessing that they too are sourced from down in Guangdong by Fudi Auto. Get em where ever you can .........cuz folks are (or were) buying.

[Vladimir-S]

Quality was crap.
Yes. Quality is the real crap. That's why they stopped export to Russia at the end of 2005. :nono: Of course some cars are of good quality, but the most are not.
Here many additional photos. Click on thumbs to enlarge.
Xinkai Pickup X3
http://www.chinamobil.ru/photos.php?modelid=1
Xinkai SRV X3
http://www.chinamobil.ru/photos.php?modelid=2
Xinkai SUV-X3
http://www.chinamobil.ru/photos.php?modelid=3

[Admin]

i guess this company is one of the 'verge of extinction ones :nono:

[mrgq]

other than russia and china...where else did xinkai exist? and now they stopped in russia..

[enzo]

HEBEI XINKAI
GOOD!!!!:thumb:
:nod:

[Raul]

Welcome Enzo !

Nice to see you like Xinkai :) Do you have one ?

[Raul]

"Zimbabwe's Belgravia Motors company has clinched an agency deal with a Chinese firm, Gaobeidian Xinkai Automobile Making Company Ltd, to distribute new vehicles in Zimbabwe, a development that is expected to improve the supply of vehicles in this country.

This deal, which is a direct response to the Zimbabwean government's "Look East" policy, is certainly going to be welcomed by many, as payments of the vehicles will be made using the local unit, a local newspaper reported on Sunday. The vehicles, which have the Isuzu looks and engine, have single cabs and double cabs, including double cabs with long cargo body pick-up and SUVs. All these vehicles come in both petrol and diesel-powered engines, The Sunday Mail said.

The delivery period is six to eight weeks from date of order, which is also very good for this market when compared with other brands like Mazda, Nissan and Toyota, it said. These vehicles are called Xinkai, but may be renamed to Century for the convenience of locals who may find it difficult to pronounce it in the Chinese language. Currently, there are six samples for the local market to view and test run at the Belgravia Motors showroom. According to the managing director of Belgravia Motors, Faizal Sherif, there are 12 other units on the way that are set to arrive in about two weeks."

http://www.xinkai-online.ru/zadmin_data/cars.show_image/7568.jpg

[BringIt]

I think it's GREAT that Chinese car makers are selling to 3rd world countries first.

The people in these countries will save a lot of money buying cars, and these cars can be fully tested in subpar road conditions for further improvement. Win win for both sides.

[chinoy54]

does anyone have a contact address for this company? i sent an e-mail msg to the address on their website 5 days ago & have not received a reply.

[cryptonx]

do they MAKE any other cars ??

I am 100% sure I saw this same logo on a small hatchback here in Egypt without license plates ... it had 2 circular headlights like the VW polo ... but of course its is tooooooo small ( the car ) .

any ideas ?

[cryptonx]

what the hell is this :

http://www.hbxk.com/upload/pdt/200663162310430z1.jpg

its from thier website

this is getting ridiclous ... the copyin thing

[god_bless_japan]

this is getting ridiclous ... the copyin thing

its not getting, its always been ridicolous from day one:mad: ;)

[cruiser88]

god bless japan:D

[martin_krpan]

Presentation of their company (taken from their website)
Located in Zhuozhou, Hebei province, we are a large modern enterprise founded in 1999 with a good location. So far, we have formed an industrial park based on "Gaobeidian Xinkai Automobile Manufactory Co., Ltd." and "Zhuozhou Xinkai Automobile Spare Parts Co., Ltd."

Our group is involved in many fields, such as whole car manufacturing, spare parts processing and real estate development. At present, our group occupies an area of 500,000 square meters, including 100,000 square meters of modern factory buildings. Besides, we are equipped with 10 advanced assembly lines for automobile welding, spray coating, assembly and test and 500 sets of equipment and assisting facilities with a production capacity of 60,000 vehicles.

In order to satisfy the need of market at home and abroad, Xinkai Automobile has invested 15 million US dollars in 2005 to launch a new project to build a modern manufacturing base with the production capacity of 150,000 family cars annually. Until 2007, Xinkai will become one of the major enterprises of automobile industry in China.

Having established a 24-hour after-sales service system, we are confident of ensuring customer satisfaction. Working to improve product quality and maintain continual growth, we have passed evaluation of ISO9001 quality management system.

With the advanced technology and good brand, we have developed more than 30 kinds of products, such as "Xinkai" 1021 pickup series and 6490 and 6491 multi-functional business vehicle series, and successfully exported our products to clients around the world.

If you are an importer of any of the products we supply, please contact us with your detailed requirements. We sincerely invite and welcome our potential overseas clients to contact us for cooperation and hope to hear from you soon.

Their other models.
CUV:
http://www.moj-album.com/slike/4219952/XEyxobmjqgVdQIr_.v.jpg

Truck:
http://www.moj-album.com/slike/4219952/Upl1AiAcQl3KW8TJ.jpg

newest pickup with interesting nose:
http://www.moj-album.com/slike/4219952/d3gfS0PrzsXeUHD5.jpg

another SUV, similiar to BMW X5:
http://www.moj-album.com/slike/4219952/5Q4RYzM_k9rL1Ojv.jpg

[martin_krpan]

And for the last, their most interesting vehicle - a perfect copy of Lexus RX:
http://www.moj-album.com/slike/4219952/inVTzutVVEO1SKbq.jpg
http://www.moj-album.com/slike/4219952/Eg9NRYaO2mTmjoOv.jpg

Lexus:
http://www.moj-album.com/slike/4219952/3B6zhfcoTGBezWGl.v.jpg

I assume it's indeed a copy and not licenced product, right?

[vitordavid]

i think they exported to russia and syria, and they have some quality issues. And the after sales service sucks

[martin_krpan]

Two more pics of their Pick-up with, I think, lights ''borrowed'' from Citroen C2:
http://www.moj-album.com/slike/4219952/ri11C2MNLkRO74Sr.jpg
http://www.moj-album.com/slike/4219952/FfpKL5A6cLt9cD1T.jpg

and their newest SUV, a blend of Subaru Tribeca (front) and Kia Sportage/ Hyundai Tuscon (back):
http://www.moj-album.com/slike/4219952/Jq2oa81YiLHKZCAl.jpg
http://www.moj-album.com/slike/4219952/vqyQbLdBxNOFwqBq.jpg

[dragin]

http://www.moj-album.com/slike/4219952/FfpKL5A6cLt9cD1T.jpg

You really have to hand it to Xinkai. In spite of their reported quality problems, they do make available a diverse model line up. But then again maybe one explains the other.
I even saw a Santana look-alike sedan that they had built.
As for this clever new pickup style, I would say they started with a Fudi short wheelbase SUV, and cut off the roof behind the rear door windows.
To me it's rather ugly, front and back, but you have to give them credit for not mindlessly running with the herd.
As for the Tribeca-Sportage look-alike...... not bad.

[martin_krpan]

Xinkai Auto to build 2.5 bln yuan plant in Yinchuan.

July 29, 2008 - Hebei Xinkai Auto Group signed an agreement with northwestern China's Yinchuan economic development zone administration for building an auto manufacturing project in this area, said the official website of Yinchuan city yesterday.

Under the deal, Xinkai Auto is to invest 2.5 billion yuan ($367 million) in setting up a manufacturing base for making 150 sedans annually, a production line for building 50,000 light vehicles annually, a production line for making 250,000 engines annually, and a facility for making auto parts. This manufacturing base will cover the auto-making chain from stamping, wielding, coating, assembling, and engines plus other auto parts.

Hebei Xinkai Auto Group, located in North China, is engaged in fields of car-making, components processing, real estate development, and chemicals producing. The company has built more than 10 modern production lines for auto wielding, coating, assembling and testing. As a carmaker, Xinkai has developed about 30 models of pickups and commercial vehicles. Since 2002, the company has manufactured more than 150,000 Xinkai-brand automobiles.

Currently, Xinkai Auto has over 200 dealerships nationwide and an extensive after-sales network. Its products have also been exported to 79 countries and regions such as Saudi Arabia, Russia, and Panama. In 2007, the company earned US$60 million from its auto exports.

source: Gasgoo.com

[SAS-Me]

Can anyone help me by providing me any information related to the Xinkai brand of vehicles?
• Durability?
• Safety?
• Engine & Gear power (i.e. 4X4)?
• Engine temperature?
I am planning to negotiate with for Xinkai to be their dealer in my country?
Please assist in providing me more & more information about this brand … Thanks :)

[dragin]

Admin please move this thread to "Hebei Xinkai" so SAS-Me can get an idea of reader input on this automaker.
Thanks.

[martin_krpan]

Done.

[feña_2]

Xinkai is already selling their cars on Chile, rebadged as Autorrad...

Ruda
http://www2.chileautos.cl/fotoschile/fotoautom/5/1115/chi_Fotos%20CS%20Plata%20013.jpg

Century
http://www2.chileautos.cl/fotoschile/fotoautom/2/592/chi_DSC04192%281%29.JPG

Outsider (that brand already have a dealer, Gildemeister, sold as "Zotye Hunter")
http://www.motorspain.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/08/zotyeoutsider1.jpg

And their sold cars are...merely symbolic :lol:

[martin_krpan]

I wonder how will customers in Chile react to unusual design of Ruda. By the way I noticed that South American version has different rear lights than Chinese version.

Autorrad Ruda:
http://www.moj-album.com/slike/4219952/uqBiIlili5cJmpKE.jpg
http://www.moj-album.com/slike/4219952/G19CZvdOKHunYxVw.jpg
http://www.moj-album.com/slike/4219952/SyAfowqmOI2XJ321.jpg

One bigger picture of Century:
http://www.moj-album.com/slike/4219952/XET9CQ1hlojC0yXG.jpg

[martin_krpan]

Autorrad also started selling XINKAI CUV renamed Lanscape Sport:
http://www.moj-album.com/slike/4219952/WVtRWjAfXRUzAF3d.jpghttp://www.moj-album.com/slike/4219952/pF8KFZL8OejlGIZ2.jpg
http://www.moj-album.com/slike/4219952/xz4tZATbD3GD9JdU.jpghttp://www.moj-album.com/slike/4219952/LWj6C5RJCba7RJdw.jpg

[Curtissmith]

not too bad if price is good .

[feña_2]

between 6000 and 7500 US Dollars

[feña_2]

It seems Autorrad will be literally KILLED here in chile...

[martin_krpan]

XINKAI presented their newest SUV (Chinese name should be something like: 凯--凯胜) which design is heavily influenced by Lexus:
http://s2.mojalbum.com/kitajci-14-foto_4219952_17393070_17949787.jpghttp://s2.mojalbum.com/kitajci-14-foto_4219952_17393070_17949788.jpg

http://www.hbxk.com/News.asp?MID=8&NID=81
http://www.hbxk.com/pro_car.asp?MID=29&NID=106


And interestingly the company is also advertising Mercedes-Benz commercial vehicles (Sprinter):
http://www.hbxk.com/pro_car.asp?MID=29&NID=17#this
http://www.hbxk.com/News.asp?MID=8&NID=315

http://s2.mojalbum.com/kitajci-14-foto_4219952_17393070_17949789.jpg


I doubt XINKAI is building Sprinter in its factory. In China foreign automakers are allowed to have only two auto-making joint ventures in China. Daimler-Benz already has two such Chinese ventures - Beijing Benz and Fujian Daimler Automotive.

[dragin]

On the website the Daimler badging on the vehicle is clearly "Xinkai Benchi".
So there must somehow be a legitimate tie-up between the two companies.
Perhaps it is merely the rights to sell Sprinters at Xinkai dealerships.

As for the infringement on the Lexus design, nowadays Toyota (and Honda) seem fair game in China. This model was introduced by Xinkai back in November 2007.