A Huge surprise to the Chery Dealer here , I have no idea how this deal go took shape

the Chery dealer is called CIG , and they currently IMPORT AND SELL only , The Chery Windcloud ( As Chery A11 ) , the QQ and the Chery A15 ( Flagcloud ) .

A couple of weeks we heard about a rumor of AboulFotooh ( former BMW dealer and importer ) is preparing to assemble a Chinese car in Egypt .

so it was nothing new , since the Brilliance Galena is now being produced in BMWs factories here .

but the funny thing is its a CHERY model ,
Called Chery Speranza , Apparently its the Oriental Sun but with some new twsists and modifications .

THe only photo available is in a newspaper and its covered , now alot is showing but it says SPERANZA and has the Chery Automobile logo on the FULL PAGE advertisment .

I will try to get a scan/picture as oon as possible .

No idea about the price/features yet , unless " A whole new sensation " is considered a feature :D

Could this be the B12 as seen in this picture?

http://www.bababian.com/photos/20060412/60F229FC6596E7D0B2073FEE5D2E6573_500.jpg

I wish its this one but the image they posted in the newspaper is from a SIDE view not a prespective one , so I can't really tell

China-made Chery sedan to be assembled in Egypt

Chinese carmaker Chery Automobile announced on Tuesday in Cairo that the assembling lines of Chery sedan were officially kicked off in Egypt with the cooperation of an Egyptian car company.

The lines were under the cooperation with Chery's Egyptian partner Daewoo Motors Egypt (DME), a former partner of GM Daewoo Auto and Technology Co., Chery's vice-president Zhou Biren said at a press conference.

Chery's two car types, A5 with a 1.6-liter engine and A6 with a 2.0-liter engine, would be produced in Egypt in the forms of CKD, or completely knocked-down, and SKD, or semi-knocked-down, Zhou said.

He said that DME was expected to have an annual capacity of 25, 000 units in the initial stage, which could be further raised to 50,000 units in the future.

Chery signed the agreement of strategic partnership with DME in November 2005, shortly after the latter ended cooperation with the world known automobile manufacturer GM Daewoo.

According to the agreement, DME would pay for the use of Chery's technologies and brand while Chery would provide technological support and car parts for DME.

The assembled Chery cars would be sold in Egypt under a new name of Speranza, which DME said meant hope.

Officials with DME said that Speranza was set to win Egyptian car buyers with high quality and favorable prices.

Chery, which was set up in 1997 in central China's Anhui province, has made great success in both Chinese market and overseas market.

Statistics released by the Chinese embassy in Egypt indicated that Egypt has imported some 1,700 Chery's cars by the end of 2005.

Source: Xinhua

does anybody know if the engines used are acteco engines(the new chery engines) or the same old 1.6 engine used in A11??

The 1.6 engine is the new ACTECO, the 2.0 is the mitsubishi 4G63
The 1.6 is coming with manual transmission and the 2.0 is coming with automatic tiptronic trans.
The cars will be available in the showrooms next Friday as they told in the company when I called them.

The 1.6 price is 59,900 LE which is about 10,000 $
The 2.0 price is 99,900 LE which is about 17,000 $
(Very comepetetive prices if compared with others):thumb:
I believe that the 1.6 model is the A5, and the 2.0 model is the Eastar B11,
the cars will be sold under the brand name Speranza, I think to not conflict with Chery brand which has been distributed by another company (A11 and QQ).

wow , now I regret not waiting for this :(

I love the A5 :(
damn it

You love this car

http://www.mychery.net/forum/html/ut/attach/2006/06/26/7256979-PIC_0035-embed.JPG

they didn't have it when you bought the Fiat. BTW, what happened to your crashed Fiat? can you trade it in for a A5

The 1.6 engine is the new ACTECO, the 2.0 is the mitsubishi 4G63
The 1.6 is coming with manual transmission and the 2.0 is coming with automatic tiptronic trans.
The cars will be available in the showrooms next Friday as they told in the company when I called them.

The 1.6 price is 59,900 LE which is about 10,000 $
The 2.0 price is 99,900 LE which is about 17,000 $
(Very comepetetive prices if compared with others):thumb:
I believe that the 1.6 model is the A5, and the 2.0 model is the Eastar B11,
the cars will be sold under the brand name Speranza, I think to not conflict with Chery brand which has been distributed by another company (A11 and QQ).

can you please tell me what are the full list of options in the 1.6 and 2.0 cars? i may buy one on the spot when they arrive.

At Hazik

I fixed my Palio , its back in perfect shape now , No I can't replace it , I am paying it with Installments not cash .

AT Fmohiy

The 1.6 is not yet confirmed to be the A5 , so Dont get ur hopes up , its going to be VIEWABLE in all aboulfotouh galleries tommorrow .

the features are :

1.6 ACTECO ENGINE ( no info about HP )
Manual
ABS / 2 Airbags
CD/Cassette
4 Electric Windows /
Trip Computer / RPM
Centeral Lock
Alarm / Remote key

3 years waranty or 100,000 KM
59,000 LE

I think this car will outselll EVERY car in egypt ! if it was the a5 !!!
I mean the cURRENT chery dealer sells the basic OUTDATED A11 for 58,000 ! a higher version for 64,000 and a LONG version for 69,900 !

I think it has the 80kw 1.6 ACTECO engine which is about 107hp

Tomorow we will see the cars ISA, and I'm expecting huge advertising campaign in newspapers, they told me it will be available tomorow in Aboul Fotouh showroom in Gam3et El Dowal St.

That's cool

I want to buy one in Europe :thumb:

This morning in Al Ahram newspaper there was an advertising for Speranza and an article about them, the two cars are Speranza A516 (Chery A5) and Speranza A620 (Chery Eastar).

i reserved one A516 yesterday and will get it in 45 days. It has the following

1.6 acteco engine
manual A/C , not the digital one found in pictures over the net, but i don't care about that
4 electric windows with auto windows up when you lock the car
center lock
remote control
alarm
ABS brakes from delphi
tires mark GTradial size 195/55 r15
sport tire alloys
clarion radio cassette Cd mp3 player model adb341mp
60/40 foldable rear sets(but not flat)
500 litre boot.

all this for 59900 EGP great car for a steal price.

The A620 is also on offer for 99900 EGP with extra
2 air bags
steptronic trnsmission
mitsubishi engine
electric roof opening
dvd player with 2 screens for the back seats.

Hey guys, i went 2day to abou el fotoh's showroom @ gam3et el dowal st.
Both cars are gr8, package is gr8, price is gr8 ...

A6 available in only 3 colours, black , silver & something else.
very good built qulaity compared to the brilliance, also assembled here in egypt, cuz i didnt like some points with the brilliance.
As far as i heard, 45% of the components are made in egypt.
guys This car will sell like hell here in egypt... I mean the A5 looks better than the chev. optra, at da same size, with matching quality ... while its priced less than the smaller Avio :lol:

I guess we'll wait & see...

"all this for 59900 EGP great car for a steal price."

dear friend, could you tell us how much is that of USD :p

The 1.6 price is 59,900 LE which is about 10,000 $
The 2.0 price is 99,900 LE which is about 17,000 $
(Very comepetetive prices if compared with others):thumb:


Really nice prices.

Hi, egytuner, how much the chery A15(cloudflag) sold in Egypt?

Well, the A15 is not on the market, a couple were sold for car rental companies, as far as i heard it was too expensive , reached 115,000 L.E plus.

The chery dealer sells A11 models till now, priced at 58,900 L.E starting level!! while the dealer for the A5 now... sells it for 59,900 L.E ?! I'd prefer the A5 for sure. I just didnt get it, what chery is upto making here in our market... cuz you see, now we have 2 agents :D one selling A11 models, QQ's .... & the other, using the same chery logo, producing the A5, oriental sun models, but not under the name chery, under the name speranza...

so now, both are selling cars for chery, A11 for 58,900 L.E ... the other selling A5 for 59,900 L.E !? :lol: i see it funny. either one of them is loosing much money, or the other is gaining alot of money ...

That's the same what Chery did in China local market, diffrent agents diffrente models...

To the 59900 A5, the price of A11 looks like a little bit higher...

Friend told me, the lowest A15(facelift of the A11) sold in China at only CNY55555(USD7000), as the lowest A5 sold at CNY77777(USD9700)...

AW, thx for your inputs~~happy

Congratiulations Fmohiy , I envy you ! I will sell my damn Palio ! :D

for ppl intrested , 59,900 LE = $10,035 ( 1 $ = 5.7 LE )
99,000 LE = $17385

Wow , the Chery A5 costs less in Egypt than it does in China. BTW when you guys go to the showroom does the A5 look exactly like this.

http://www.mychery.net/forum/html/ut/attach/2006/06/26/7256954-PIC_0033-embed.jpg

And does A6 look like this

http://www.mychery.net/forum/html/ut/attach/2006/06/21/7199733-008-embed.jpg

i reserved one A516 yesterday and will get it in 45 days. It has the following

1.6 acteco engine
manual A/C , not the digital one found in pictures over the net, but i don't care about that
4 electric windows with auto windows up when you lock the car
center lock
remote control
alarm
ABS brakes from delphi
tires mark GTradial size 195/55 r15
sport tire alloys
clarion radio cassette Cd mp3 player model adb341mp
60/40 foldable rear sets(but not flat)
500 litre boot.

all this for 59900 EGP great car for a steal price.

The A620 is also on offer for 99900 EGP with extra
2 air bags
steptronic trnsmission
mitsubishi engine
electric roof opening
dvd player with 2 screens for the back seats.

Congrats man! Did you test drive the car before buying it. And does the engine look like this?
http://www.supercars.net/pitlane/pics/2142672e.jpg

I Havent seen one in REAL yet but I am going to tommorrow

Anyways the A5 has the 1.6 Acteco engine not the 2.0 one
I believe its cheaper cuz it has 45% egyptian parts , which are cheaper than chinese parts

and the A6 is cheaper cuz it have some stuff changed as well , like it doesnt have a DVD player like the ADD or Ppl say , its just a VCD and lcds from Symphony , a crappy korean audio company I believe .. and it also has 45% egyptian content , and the 30% CUSTOMS and TAX dont apply to CKD cars .

making it a reall bargain to buy


Just to let you know

The Chery/Speranza A5 is now booked for over 3 months ahead ! and there's a Waiting list !!!

Even the Symphony VCD's are made in Egypt... :D

hazik: yes, both are da same like here... The A5 got 15" sport wheels like da pic, A6 got 16" wheels.

I want to know, the mitsu engine 2.0, 4g63 powering the A6, how much hp is it producing??

According to Wikipedia , the 4g63 was used in the Galant / EVO
the Galant 4g63 , was used till 1999 , so is the Turbocharged version for the EVO

The AMERICAN galant produced 207hp , I doubt that this is the case with Eastar

... edit

Ok according to Cheryglobal.com

the Eastar 2.0L using the 4G63S4M Engine
Produces 92KW at 6000 RPM , thats about
125 HP

I think that HP result is a bit low for such a huge car like this, strangely , the 2.4Version only increases to 130hp even the ACTECO 2.0L version is also 130hp !

wierd

thanks cryptonx for the kind words.
i just hope they deliver the car on time.

the stripped some options from the A5 to get to this price like no airbags and the A/C is analog not digital.

I just fear that they might raise the price before i get my car.

As for test drive, i actually didn't ask for one, i'm buying this car on faith(and a lot of research) and on the fact that if i sold the audio system and alloy wheels alone i would get 10,000 EGP from the car price:p
by the way, i heard a rumor that the A6 might increase to 130,000 EGP soon. Actualy at that price, it still might be a bargain compared to the galina.

Did you know this car (A5) have separate air vents for rear passengers?? i only saw this option on the BMW 5 series, not even on the 3 series.
This car ROCKS!!!

LONG LIVE CHINA :D :D :D

bmw sucks anyways ! chery owns it ! :P
lol just kidding

That's the same what Chery did in China local market, diffrent agents diffrente models...

To the 59900 A5, the price of A11 looks like a little bit higher...

Friend told me, the lowest A15(facelift of the A11) sold in China at only CNY55555(USD7000), as the lowest A5 sold at CNY77777(USD9700)...

AW, thx for your inputs~~happy

Welcome to chinacarforums nesvita :)

Well, the A15 is not on the market, a couple were sold for car rental companies, as far as i heard it was too expensive , reached 115,000 L.E plus.

The chery dealer sells A11 models till now, priced at 58,900 L.E starting level!! while the dealer for the A5 now... sells it for 59,900 L.E ?! I'd prefer the A5 for sure. I just didnt get it, what chery is upto making here in our market... cuz you see, now we have 2 agents :D one selling A11 models, QQ's .... & the other, using the same chery logo, producing the A5, oriental sun models, but not under the name chery, under the name speranza...

so now, both are selling cars for chery, A11 for 58,900 L.E ... the other selling A5 for 59,900 L.E !? :lol: i see it funny. either one of them is loosing much money, or the other is gaining alot of money ...


welcome to chinacar forums egytuner :)

nice banner :)

THanks Admin :signed: ,
I visit chinacarforums since long time...its my main source for china made cars info :thumb: & cryptonx is a friend of mine actually. I love this forum... I really like where chery company is now, they are growing wide... gaining people's respect, rather than the silly Geely toys.

Edit: thats my car overthere :D

I never heard of you before , stop attaching to ppl ! :P
hehe

Edit: thats my car overthere :D


where?

at my banner (signature) pic. :mad:

Cam any one of tell me about the performance of this car or any information concerning the motor and suspention i alaready see this car it's great and too much options with great price but still we are afraid from chinese cars :nono:

thanks cryptonx for the kind words.
i just hope they deliver the car on time.

the stripped some options from the A5 to get to this price like no airbags and the A/C is analog not digital.

I just fear that they might raise the price before i get my car.

As for test drive, i actually didn't ask for one, i'm buying this car on faith(and a lot of research) and on the fact that if i sold the audio system and alloy wheels alone i would get 10,000 EGP from the car price:p
by the way, i heard a rumor that the A6 might increase to 130,000 EGP soon. Actualy at that price, it still might be a bargain compared to the galina.

Did you know this car (A5) have separate air vents for rear passengers?? i only saw this option on the BMW 5 series, not even on the 3 series.
This car ROCKS!!!

LONG LIVE CHINA


mabrook fmohiy = congrats;)

me to i am gonna to buy one A516
i saw it at elnozha showroom
it was :thumb:
i want from you some details about how they dealed with you ?

and r u sure about the options you told us about the A516 ?
remot , ABS .....??:eek:

coz when i was there i didnt ask anyone about anything !!

there is no sensors too

did u recognize that fmohiy ???

and who can they raise the price before you get your car ????

For all those Egyptians reading this form:

- Well ... the car itself (with that price) is a steal. It's a great car with more than a great price.

- I didn't like the fact that they might be raising the price for those of us who booked the car only 1 week after the official release date (initially it was advertised at 59,900 EGP, now, only around 2 weeks later the agent representatives are saying they might increase it by around 5,000 EGP)

- You can book the car for around 20,000 EGP, which is around 30% of the price (regular booking price around here for cars is around 5%). What they give you in retun is just a lousy piece of paper saying you paid 20,000 EGP against the downpayment of a Speranza A516. This paper is filled out by hand (NO CONTRACT).

- Agent representatives aren't that professional at all.


Now - Some Consipracy theories (which might proove wrong.. or right):
Could this be "simply" a ripp-off? Could "someone" take our money and just fly away?? I'm starting to really get worried about that.

Does someone know that this Factory actually exists in Egypt? Any garuntees that this is "NOT" a ripp-off?

Awaiting replies (plz).

welcome to chinacarforums THS and abdelrahman
:)

well THS , as far as i know, that these 2 new cars are assembled @ daewoo factory, which was producing the daewoo models. Plus the car does really exist, cuz i know a friend... his father owns the factory that imports the trunk's carpets for them, & my father knows the owner of the company that makes the glass for the cars... so it does exist.

And about that piece of paper dont mind, when we bought our fiat sienna 2000, we paid like 5000 L.E, & we took the same piece of paper... lol , its just the 20,000 are v. high for a downpayment or something.

Plus, I heard both A5, A6 prices will move higher, by 10,000 L.E 3 months later... you see, they didnt expect this kind of demand on the car... bookings are till march 2007 !!? :o , so , we'll just have to wait & see people who takes the 1st delivery ... :D

thx admin

the latest news from abou elfotoooh

they stoped the bookings till 15/9/2006

i think the price will de highe sooooooooon

mabrook fmohiy = congrats;)

me to i am gonna to buy one A516
i saw it at elnozha showroom
it was :thumb:
i want from you some details about how they dealed with you ?

and r u sure about the options you told us about the A516 ?
remot , ABS .....??:eek:

coz when i was there i didnt ask anyone about anything !!


well, i did get the brochure for both cars, and it mentions all these options and more like cassette-cd-mp3 player from clarion and heated mirrors.
i saw it at First Car showroom and they were professional.

i asked them to run the engine and the A/C and they did.
last time i called, they said the first delivery will be on 25/8

i hope i get my car then.

and i am soo saaaad

i didnt book my car they said to me call us 15/9/2006
we may open booking again

I have already booked my car (A516) , at the begining of this week (Sunday 13-08-2006), from Abou Ghaly Alexandria, and I should recieve it by next January (as they said) , really I am not sure about this, as the booking rate is extremly very high
I am worried about the price raising, as it will be very bad to go 10000 L.E by only one shoot, I think they should make it 1000 or 2000 L.E, if they want to raise it.
My openion, is that they should raise the price, but not before one year, for the car to be running in the streets, and get recognized, and the after buy service to be tryed and tested.

What is your openion in A516 Knowen in EGYPT as "Speranza"?

I just want to make a survey for different people's openions.
Feel free to write down your openion, but in an Objective way, without any biasing.

Some points that may help:
1. Motor Power, Torque, and Technology.(10)
2. Exterior design.(10)
3. Interior Design.(10)
4. Interior Materials Quality and finishing.(10)
5. Suspension.(10)
6. Brakes.(10)
7. Transmission System. (10)
8. Overall(10)

I will start by my Self:

My Openion is made upon that I have seen the car in the showrooms many times, and from a lot of information I have collected over the net (I have not recieved my car yet).

1. Motor: I think the motor is Powerful desinged by AVL which is an Austrian Company, with high horse power (107 HP), a slightly high torque power (144/4300~4500 Nm/rpm), aluminum alloy for internal mechanical parts, over all the motor technology is advanced as I think.(9 of 10)

2. Exterior Design: It has a bold front which is excellent (for me), good side view, good back view, but I think that the rear Wheel compartment is not matching with the car size at the end. Overall the outside Design of the car is accepted for me. (7.5 Of 10)

3. Interior Desing : It hase a very big salloon, which is copied from BMW 3 series (Which I really like), the seats and legs space are very comfortable, The CD/Cassete/Radio/MP3 Player is excellent. (9 of 10)

4. Interior Materials Quality and finishing : The internal materials are not like BMW of course, but still not that cheap like Verna or Elantra for example (no offense), Finishing is high and accepted for the car price. (8 of 10)

5. Suspension : I have not tried the car yet, but as mentioned it is a macphrson suspension system, rienforced by an anti-roll bar for the egyptian streets (that's what I could figure from asking and from info from the net), I think it will be a good suspension system.(9 of 10)

6. Brakes : Very good,Delphi ABS and EBD, which are very good systems for brakes and the latest technologies in that field . (9 Of 10)

7. Transmission System : Bosch Transmission System (German), which I expect a very good transmission system.(9 of 10).

8. Overall: Overall this car is the best buy for the range of 60000 ~70000 L.E, and I give it (8 Of 10) as overall evaluation.

Finally it is only my openion, it does not reflect anything, or does not mean anything.

Welcome mohamed ,

In fact its very typical to raise the price , From What I understood , They were selling for 59,000 because they were afraid of the first impression , but for 59,000 the car is FLYING in sales .

So if they raise the price later , they are still winners and ppl will still buy it , but of course they forced themselves to be compared by other brands if they raise the price, but after some SOLID SALES like these , I dont think anyone will be afraid to buy the car
I Mean its becoming the NEWS of the Year !! everyone talks about it
even people who hated chinese car and were afraid of them , liked them !

Good Job Chery !
Good job DME ! finaly they stopped making those crappy shitty outdated Lanos and Nubira ! ( not the new aveo/optra , they are the OLD 1999 ones :D )

What is your openion in A516 Knowen in EGYPT as "Speranza"?

I just want to make a survey for different people's openions.
Feel free to write down your openion, but in an Objective way, without any biasing.

Some points that may help:
1. Motor Power, Torque, and Technology.(10)
2. Exterior design.(10)
3. Interior Design.(10)
4. Interior Materials Quality and finishing.(10)
5. Suspension.(10)
6. Brakes.(10)
7. Transmission System. (10)
8. Overall(10)

I will start by my Self:

My Openion is made upon that I have seen the car in the showrooms many times, and from a lot of information I have collected over the net (I have not recieved my car yet).

1. Motor: I think the motor is Powerful desinged by AVL which is an Austrian Company, with high horse power (107 HP), a slightly high torque power (144/4300~4500 Nm/rpm), aluminum alloy for internal mechanical parts, over all the motor technology is advanced as I think.(9 of 10)

2. Exterior Design: It has a bold front which is excellent (for me), good side view, good back view, but I think that the rear Wheel compartment is not matching with the car size at the end. Overall the outside Design of the car is accepted for me. (7.5 Of 10)

3. Interior Desing : It hase a very big salloon, which is copied from BMW 3 series (Which I really like), the seats and legs space are very comfortable, The CD/Cassete/Radio/MP3 Player is excellent. (9 of 10)

4. Interior Materials Quality and finishing : The internal materials are not like BMW of course, but still not that cheap like Verna or Elantra for example (no offense), Finishing is high and accepted for the car price. (8 of 10)

5. Suspension : I have not tried the car yet, but as mentioned it is a macphrson suspension system, rienforced by an anti-roll bar for the egyptian streets (that's what I could figure from asking and from info from the net), I think it will be a good suspension system.(9 of 10)

6. Brakes : Very good,Delphi ABS and EBD, which are very good systems for brakes and the latest technologies in that field . (9 Of 10)

7. Transmission System : Bosch Transmission System (German), which I expect a very good transmission system.(9 of 10).

8. Overall: Overall this car is the best buy for the range of 60000 ~70000 L.E, and I give it (8 Of 10) as overall evaluation.

Finally it is only my openion, it does not reflect anything, or does not mean anything.


reely i agree eith you , i think it's a very good car , and the price will increase as the car run on the road
`i have one notice
that this car han't a plastic cover over the rear wheels, but it isn;t the major reason to accept or refuse this car
it my dream car i didn't recieve my car yet, they told me in december
thanks
eng. mohamed abd el gawad

1. Motor Power, Torque, and Technology.(10) : 3
2. Exterior design.(10) : 2
3. Interior Design.(10) : 7
4. Interior Materials Quality and finishing.(10) : 4
5. Suspension.(10) : 1
6. Brakes.(10) : ???
7. Transmission System. (10) : 1
8. Overall(10) : 2

welcome mohamed sabry and moh_gawad to chinacarforums :)

they stoped the bookings till 15/9/2006

Damn, My father was about to book an A6! by next week :confused:

Please I bought chary A11 car from Egypt and I found that the car catalogue is poor so if any body as any document or video about the car parts and soft copy of the catalogue please send it.:listenup: :listenup:

i agree that the overall rating of the car is very good but i think the finishing could have been much more better its small things that drive u crazy .

i dont know where did u reserve ur cars guys but i wasnt lucky to reserve before the close the reservation but i went and reserved at abo ghaly automotive i dont think he is an authorized dealer but am giving a try
can any one tell me if its ok to reserve a car with abo ghaly automotive el marghany

i couldnt reserve a car and now the reservation door is closed
so i have heared that abo ghaly automotive el marghany is taking reservation also u pay 5000 for the A516 and 10000 for the A620 and u can get it by january , but i heared he is not an authorized dealer yet and he cant get the car!!!!!!! so i dont know what to do they say there that its a matter of time and they will sign the contract for sure and get their share from the cars from abo el fotouh can any one tell me if he knows anything about that

i agree that the overall rating of the car is very good but i think the finishing could have been much more better its small things that drive u crazy .

i dont know where did u reserve ur cars guys but i wasnt lucky to reserve before the close the reservation but i went and reserved at abo ghaly automotive i dont think he is an authorized dealer but am giving a try
can any one tell me if its ok to reserve a car with abo ghaly automotive el marghany
i booked from abo el fottoh group in alex , 3 days after they start to book it

i am very happy that i booked this car before they stop
i hope that u have one as soon as possible

i agree that the overall rating of the car is very good but i think the finishing could have been much more better its small things that drive u crazy .

i dont know where did u reserve ur cars guys but i wasnt lucky to reserve before the close the reservation but i went and reserved at abo ghaly automotive i dont think he is an authorized dealer but am giving a try
can any one tell me if its ok to reserve a car with abo ghaly automotive el marghany
hii. i reserved my car also from abo ghaly automotive in el marghany and i heard that it is not the official dealer after i reserved the car and i went back to him and i asked about that. they told me that they are just a showroom and they have their shair in the car and i will had the car in october isa.ihope they are right.and if u hear anything ,pls tell me by mail
my e- mail is dr_bandit2@hot.
thx alot

hii. i reserved my car also from abo ghaly automotive in el marghany and i heard that it is not the official dealer after i reserved the car and i went back to him and i asked about that. they told me that they are just a showroom and they have their shair in the car and i will had the car in october isa.ihope they are right.and if u hear anything ,pls tell me by mail
my e- mail is dr_bandit2@hot.


i hope this is true as am worried they wont be able to get the car and then we cant get the car until the next year , i went to abo ghaly motors and he told me that abo ghaly automotive cant be selling the car and that they are the only authorized seller and the newspapers is saying that too so i dont know what to do but i hope that after all they can manage to get the car i dont think that abo ghaly automotive will risk his name in some play like that
try to keep in touch and if u have any news also tell me , hope we can know more from who reserved at abo ghaly automotive so we can try to know if they are telling the truth or not

What is your openion in A516 Knowen in EGYPT as "Speranza"?

I just want to make a survey for different people's openions.
Feel free to write down your openion, but in an Objective way, without any biasing.

Some points that may help:
1. Motor Power, Torque, and Technology.(10)
2. Exterior design.(10)
3. Interior Design.(10)
4. Interior Materials Quality and finishing.(10)
5. Suspension.(10)
6. Brakes.(10)
7. Transmission System. (10)
8. Overall(10)

I will start by my Self:

My Openion is made upon that I have seen the car in the showrooms many times, and from a lot of information I have collected over the net (I have not recieved my car yet).

1. Motor: I think the motor is Powerful desinged by AVL which is an Austrian Company, with high horse power (107 HP), a slightly high torque power (144/4300~4500 Nm/rpm), aluminum alloy for internal mechanical parts, over all the motor technology is advanced as I think.(9 of 10)

2. Exterior Design: It has a bold front which is excellent (for me), good side view, good back view, but I think that the rear Wheel compartment is not matching with the car size at the end. Overall the outside Design of the car is accepted for me. (7.5 Of 10)

3. Interior Desing : It hase a very big salloon, which is copied from BMW 3 series (Which I really like), the seats and legs space are very comfortable, The CD/Cassete/Radio/MP3 Player is excellent. (9 of 10)

4. Interior Materials Quality and finishing : The internal materials are not like BMW of course, but still not that cheap like Verna or Elantra for example (no offense), Finishing is high and accepted for the car price. (8 of 10)

5. Suspension : I have not tried the car yet, but as mentioned it is a macphrson suspension system, rienforced by an anti-roll bar for the egyptian streets (that's what I could figure from asking and from info from the net), I think it will be a good suspension system.(9 of 10)

6. Brakes : Very good,Delphi ABS and EBD, which are very good systems for brakes and the latest technologies in that field . (9 Of 10)

7. Transmission System : Bosch Transmission System (German), which I expect a very good transmission system.(9 of 10).

8. Overall: Overall this car is the best buy for the range of 60000 ~70000 L.E, and I give it (8 Of 10) as overall evaluation.

Finally it is only my openion, it does not reflect anything, or does not mean anything.

I saw the picture of this car in other thread, but there was no spec. So, I wonder what class this car is in and its the weight. When I assume this car as small sedan (as you compared with elantra), the horse power is not impressive as even elantra(released April, 2000) provides 108HP from 1.5lt DOHC engine. And the new released one this year provides 120HP from its 1.6lt engine. And I'm wonder if this car has already been released in china for sometime. Otherwise, I think you're taking a big risk. I'm not trying to bash your post. Although you mention it's just your thought,I think all of evaluation is based on the paper spect. The engine is new and no proven record at all. And using quality parts doesn't mean the car also has the same quality. I think it's more about who is building and how. Moreover, regardless the brand, the first 6 to 12 month of new car is not a good buy in my opinion. The price is the highest and is possible to contain some bugs, which takes some time to fix it out (even toyota camry 2007 had a transmission issue). And I wonder if you can post any pic of its interior. Except the concept cars, I feel most of chery's interior look outdated. But !! it's your money and it will be the best car if you're happy with your purchase.

well, i did get the brochure for both cars, and it mentions all these options and more like cassette-cd-mp3 player from clarion and heated mirrors.
i saw it at First Car showroom and they were professional.

i asked them to run the engine and the A/C and they did.
last time i called, they said the first delivery will be on 25/8

i hope i get my car then. hi guys i am anew member any one know if they will produce 4*4 cars

i hope this is true as am worried they wont be able to get the car and then we cant get the car until the next year , i went to abo ghaly motors and he told me that abo ghaly automotive cant be selling the car and that they are the only authorized seller and the newspapers is saying that too so i dont know what to do but i hope that after all they can manage to get the car i dont think that abo ghaly automotive will risk his name in some play like that
try to keep in touch and if u have any news also tell me , hope we can know more from who reserved at abo ghaly automotive so we can try to know if they are telling the truth or not
look i heared the same exactly as u heared but i think they will manage to get the car for the same reasons as u said...anayway..if i heared anything i'll tell u rightaway..when will u get tha car???in october as they told me or when???

i just reserved last wednesday and they told me i will get it by january,

when did u reserve urs

i reserved mine at 11/8/2006
its not that long time interval between me and u
but i dont know..i dont feel good about that i asked them about if i already get the car i find that the prise is too expensive for me wht shal i do???
they told me that i can get my 5,000 back again but i still dont feel good.

yes the time interval is not that big its only 5 days i dont know what to do also but i heared from others at abo ghaly el marghany also that they reserve till january and they told me they reserved about 130 cars , may be coz they dont reserve a lot of cars per month the number jumbs in 5 days to january i dont know but am worried also , we are now playing on the name of abo ghaly automotive . look my number is 0102668330 call me or give me ur mob so we can discuss better .

hi guys i am anew member any one know if they will produce 4*4 cars

They will produce the Tiggo, 2.4L ... but I dont think that this will be soon, Its a future step. :thumb:

yes the time interval is not that big its only 5 days i dont know what to do also but i heared from others at abo ghaly el marghany also that they reserve till january and they told me they reserved about 130 cars , may be coz they dont reserve a lot of cars per month the number jumbs in 5 days to january i dont know but am worried also , we are now playing on the name of abo ghaly automotive . look my number is 0102668330 call me or give me ur mob so we can discuss better .
yes u r right cuz i heared the same thing..
o.k i took ur number
my number is 0121796127
my name is islam hamdy

Chery A6, @ abou ghaly Nozha showroom.

http://img124.imageshack.us/img124/5379/smallkimocam112zq1.jpg
:D

Cheery definetely is a major player in small car industry in China.

Hi All, correct me if i'm wrong, this car not A6 it's Estar or Oriental Son but A6 not produced yet it will come soon from Chery and will be target to USA and Euroup Market but I think Abou elfoutoh used A6 for the Future, that make this Idea the A5 is newest than Abou El Foutoh A6.

Chery A6, @ abou ghaly Nozha showroom.

haaiiii every one there , we were @ abou ghaly Nozha showroom me and my frinds 19/8/2006 and they said that u can book your car both for A5 and A6 for 10000 L.E but the bad news that u will recive it at 15/6/2007 .
:nono: :nono:
nooooooooooo comment :confused:

1. Motor Power, Torque, and Technology.(10)___(9)
2. Exterior design.(10)___(7.5) the back doesnt match with 15'' wheel.
3. Interior Design.(10)____(8.5)
4. Interior Materials Quality and finishing.(10)_____(8.5)
5. Suspension.(10)_____(9)
6. Brakes.(10)_______(9.5)
7. Transmission System. (10)_____(9.5)
8. Overall(10)__________= (61.5/70) = 8.786 :thumb:

i thik its good at all comparing with (Verna 1.5L = 68000 LE ) and (Lanos 1.5 the old one =65000LE and the new one called AVEO =70000LE)

فى على الموقع بتعهم الكاتالوج كاامل و كيفية التعامل مع الاعطال كمان.
و ادى اللينكاات العربى ....

www.cheryglobal.com/gjb_alb

www.cheryglobal.com/gjb_alb/folder/fy-i.html


هتلاقى الدليل للمستخدم + دليل للصيانة .

ويارب اكون افدتك -- على فكرة انا نزلتهم على الجهاز بتاعى علشان اعرف تفاصيل اكتر عن العربية دى وكان نفسى ألاقى حد اشتراها .

بقولك صحيح اخبار العربية دى معال اية؟؟معلش هرخم عليك بالاسئلة يا استاذ إيهاب بس بأمانة علشان محتارين بينها و بين الاسبيرانزا الجديدة مهى شيرى برضو

بقلها معااك قد اية؟؟
صوتها ؟؟ قوتها ؟؟
البنزين اية اخبارة بتحرق بنزين جامد و لا كويسة؟؟
انا مقتنع بها جداً بس اللى حوليا مخوفينىمنها !! ا

اه اخر حاجة اخبارها فى الجرى و السفر و السرعات اية ؟؟
يعنى مش عارف بيقولوا سحبها مش اللى هوا !!؟؟
علشان يعنى الموتور بتعها
1600cc 8 valves only !!

alooo aloo this is my post no 10

haaaaaaaaaaahaaaaaaaa

Please I bought chary A11 car from Egypt and I found that the car catalogue is poor so if any body as any document or video about the car parts and soft copy of the catalogue please send it.:listenup: :listenup:

ehab336, I don't know but it looks like you didn't get a lot of response to your query.
Maybe you can try the following email addresses:

chery_bd@mychery.com

cheryglobal@mychery.com

If Chery is sincere about succeeding in the global marketplace it will respond to folks like you who are in need. Afterall the real success of a manufacturer is shown by how it services what it sells, and how well it provides a seamless spare parts supply chain.

Good luck.....

.......7. Transmission System : Bosch Transmission System (German), which I expect a very good transmission system.(9 of 10)...........


My guess here is that you mean that Bosch is the supplier of the electronic management system for the automatic transmission.

As for the transmission itself I would guess that its either a ZF or Borg Warner product.

Does anyone know for sure. btw both are excellent driveline makers

Hi Adel-Rahman
Tahnk you for your repaly
about the car
1-I bought it in 15/12/2005
2-the sound little bit high, the motor very powerful.
3-the fuel consumption little bit high.
4-I went with the car to Hergada and it is very stable in high speed ,the car acceleration very good.
5-but I have two problems in this car
5.1 the agent CIG not good.
5.2 price of some spare parts very high.

6-in general I like it
7-about sprenza I think it is better than my car but it has to things keep in you mind
7.1 it will be fabricated in Egypt .
7.2 the Car Engine is new one by chery as I know.

I am happy for the replies,

I also booked my car on 13/08/2006 from Abou Ghaly automotives in Alex, they told me that they have booked 100 cars (till 13/08), I am worried about that they may not be a dealer, but when the new Speranza 2007 booking has opened they also open again for booking, I do not think that they may have a problem to get the car, as they must be sure about thier ability to full fill,

beside I have asked in Abou El Foutoh - Alex, about abou ghaly automotives, and that I have booked from them, they told me "YES ABOU GHALY AUTOMOTIVES DEALS WITH US", so I think that may indecate that Abou Ghaly Automotive deals with them, but he is not a declared dealer, or not a sponser (I think its a commercial issue, nothing more.)

I should get my car in January 2007 (insha2 allah)

I saw the picture of this car in other thread, but there was no spec. So, I wonder what class this car is in and its the weight. When I assume this car as small sedan (as you compared with elantra), the horse power is not impressive as even elantra(released April, 2000) provides 108HP from 1.5lt DOHC engine. And the new released one this year provides 120HP from its 1.6lt engine. And I'm wonder if this car has already been released in china for sometime. Otherwise, I think you're taking a big risk. I'm not trying to bash your post. Although you mention it's just your thought,I think all of evaluation is based on the paper spect. The engine is new and no proven record at all. And using quality parts doesn't mean the car also has the same quality. I think it's more about who is building and how. Moreover, regardless the brand, the first 6 to 12 month of new car is not a good buy in my opinion. The price is the highest and is possible to contain some bugs, which takes some time to fix it out (even toyota camry 2007 had a transmission issue). And I wonder if you can post any pic of its interior. Except the concept cars, I feel most of chery's interior look outdated. But !! it's your money and it will be the best car if you're happy with your purchase.

I can send the interior pics, (the interior looks too much like BMW 3 series )

Specifications of CHERY A5 (2000 cc & 1600 cc)
Specifications
Engine 2.0L(ACTECO) 1.6L(ACTECO)
Transmission 5MT
Drive Front 2WD
ENVIRONMENTAL PERFORMANCE 　 　
Fuel consumption
Fuel consumption at 90KM/h(Litres/100km) L 6.8 6.6
Fuel tank capacity 52
Emission
Emission class EUⅢ
Noise level dB 74
PERFORMANCE 　 　
Maximum speed km/h 185 180
Acceleration 0-100km/h ( full loading) Sec 13 16
SUSPENSION 　 　
Front Independent Macpherson strut with coil spring tube damper and anti-roll bar.
Rear Independent Multi-link type with coil spring tube damper and anti-roll bar.
Steering 　 　
System Power assisted rack and pinion steering. Energy absorbing collapsible steering tilt column
BRAKES 　 　
System Dual diagonal split circuit, power assisted with ABS and EBD
Front Discs (Ventilation)
Rear Discs
ESP Available
ENGINE 　 　
Engine code SQR484F SQR481F
Number of cylinders 4 in line
Bore x Stroke mm 83.5×90 81×77.5
Valve mechanism 16 valve DOHC
Fuel injection system Electronic multipoint injection
Displacement cc 1971 1597
Bore × Stroke mm 83.5×90 81×77.5
Compression ratio 10 10.5
Maximum power Kw/rpm 95/5500 80/6000
Maximum torque Nm/rpm 180/4300~4500 144/4300~4500
Fuel type Unleaded fuel
WEIGHTS 　 　
Kerb weight kg 1290
Gross vehicle weight 1665
DIMENSIONS 　 　
Length mm 4552
Width 1750
Height 1483
Wheelbase 2600
Front tread 1505
Rear tread 1505
Minimum ground clearance(full loading) 124
Front overhang 940
Rear overhang 1012
Turning radius-minimun m 5.3
Approach angle 14°
Departure angle 18°
Boot capacity,with rear seat upright L 483
Seating capacity Persons 5
TYRES 　
Size 195/55R15 84V
Spare tyre 185/65R14 86S
Wheel rim 6J×15


Here is the link from where I got the above information:
www(dot)cheryglobal(dot)com/a5_%20Specifications%20(dot)htm
I have to write it like this because I am still under 10 posts

This is a friend's A5 , number 30 :D ... hehe, I liked the car v.much, it was more than he expected.
http://img99.imageshack.us/img99/2249/chery1kn6.jpg


Saw this one the street
http://img99.imageshack.us/img99/9140/chery2ob6.jpg


We booked an A6, It will be recived @ 5/2007 :D
& I heard that they raised the prices... ?? anybody knows anything abt that?

So you took a ride in it,
what was the suspension like?
was it quite?
acceleration?
overall?

Please describe your short experience with this car

Well Mohamed, we didnt travel in it hehe... i just took a ride with him, overall it felt like our optra (my mother owns an optra) , i think its the same size & sounding, its nice overall. The cars feels bigger on the street than in the showroom. the A/c works fine... Its brand new, so he didnt press much on the pedal yet, but he told me that it feels torque... & he cant wait to finish his 1st 1000km or so. to start runing normal.

Thanks for the link. I checked the web site and first of all, I think they should spend some money on their web site!! It's terrible web site if they want to call themself as a global automaker. Only few cars were showing the full interiore although it was not a full size picutre. And still could not see the full interior picutres of A5 in this web site. It's quite funny if the manufacture doesn't show where people can find the picture? After sending a huge mount of money on the car, why don't they spend a bit of money for promotion of the car? :confused:

And based on the specification of A5, I compared it to others elantra,Civic (source from yahoo australia, honda australia). And I found something strange....

A5 elantra(2006) Civic(2007)

Engine 2.0L(ACTECO) 2.0L 1.8L
Maximum power Kw/rpm 95/5500 105/6,000 103/6,300
Maximum torque Nm/rpm 180/4300~4500 186/4,000 174/4,200
Fule economy 6.8L(constantat90K/man) 8.1L Man 6.9Man/7.2Auto
Kerb weight kg 1290 1,230 1,210
Gross vehicle weight 1665 1,760
Length mm 4552 4,525 4550
Width 1750 1,725 1750
Height 1483 1,425 1435


I do know, the measurement for the fule consumption in A5 were done in different condition from elantra and civic. But if the test was done in the similar condition, would the fule consumption be bad or reasonable? Coz, I even don't belive the figure from Hyundai or Honda as they tried to make the best number and probably it's worse in the real world. And the A5 is slightly bigger and heavier than others with less powerful engine compare to others. What do you think the fule consumption of A5 will be?

And can anyone tell me how do they measure the gross weight? Is it different in different company? Coz, A5 has a heavier curb weight than elantra but lighter than elantra in the gross weight.


Well, I put elantra and Civic as comparison coz I think those are bottom and top in its class. pls, can someone post the interior pictures of A5?:)
And I think flagcloud and windcloud has the outdated interior and exterior. And about the oriental sun..... The car was came out for sale in 1999 and now is 2006...... And they want to sell it as a new car? I think they should make some change on its in and out looking at least...... Actually, I think they better to copy the old camry rather than this crapy daewoo.... It'll be even better to their reputation as well....:(

Well Mohamed, we didnt travel in it hehe... i just took a ride with him, overall it felt like our optra (my mother owns an optra) , i think its the same size & sounding, its nice overall. The cars feels bigger on the street than in the showroom. the A/c works fine... Its brand new, so he didnt press much on the pedal yet, but he told me that it feels torque... & he cant wait to finish his 1st 1000km or so. to start runing normal.

could u tell us when he booked, and how much does it cost?
coz i booked 8 or 9/8/2006 with 20000 egp and they(abo el fetooh alex )told me that i'll get it next december.

Thanks for the link. I checked the web site and first of all, I think they should spend some money on their web site!! It's terrible web site if they want to call themself as a global automaker. Only few cars were showing the full interiore although it was not a full size picutre. And still could not see the full interior picutres of A5 in this web site. It's quite funny if the manufacture doesn't show where people can find the picture? After sending a huge mount of money on the car, why don't they spend a bit of money for promotion of the car? :confused:

And based on the specification of A5, I compared it to others elantra,Civic (source from yahoo australia, honda australia). And I found something strange....

A5 elantra(2006) Civic(2007)

Engine 2.0L(ACTECO) 2.0L 1.8L
Maximum power Kw/rpm 95/5500 105/6,000 103/6,300
Maximum torque Nm/rpm 180/4300~4500 186/4,000 174/4,200
Fule economy 6.8L(constantat90K/man) 8.1L Man 6.9Man/7.2Auto
Kerb weight kg 1290 1,230 1,210
Gross vehicle weight 1665 1,760
Length mm 4552 4,525 4550
Width 1750 1,725 1750
Height 1483 1,425 1435


I do know, the measurement for the fule consumption in A5 were done in different condition from elantra and civic. But if the test was done in the similar condition, would the fule consumption be bad or reasonable? Coz, I even don't belive the figure from Hyundai or Honda as they tried to make the best number and probably it's worse in the real world. And the A5 is slightly bigger and heavier than others with less powerful engine compare to others. What do you think the fule consumption of A5 will be?

And can anyone tell me how do they measure the gross weight? Is it different in different company? Coz, A5 has a heavier curb weight than elantra but lighter than elantra in the gross weight.


Well, I put elantra and Civic as comparison coz I think those are bottom and top in its class. pls, can someone post the interior pictures of A5?:)
And I think flagcloud and windcloud has the outdated interior and exterior. And about the oriental sun..... The car was came out for sale in 1999 and now is 2006...... And they want to sell it as a new car? I think they should make some change on its in and out looking at least...... Actually, I think they better to copy the old camry rather than this crapy daewoo.... It'll be even better to their reputation as well....:(

Thanks for the comparison,
I really do not know how they measure wieghts.

anyway here is a link for a lot of pictures for A5, I think this web site is russian, but still you can view the images :-)

www(dot)chinamobil(dot)ru/chery/a5/?view=photos

Hello CRYPTONX

I think Palio was a smart choice :nod: . I would have gone for it myself. Palio is very cool. The only problem is that I felt it was a bit expensive for its size. What color did you have?

Hey NOUSSA

Well for me it was the Chery A11 vs The Palio
the features and price of the A11 are alot better , on the other hand the PALIO is the one I liked in terms of shape , I hate the A11 looks .

The Palio is very very fun to drive btw .. yes the price is alot , I have to agree but its a great car .

I got a DARK GREEN METALIC one . very rare color . some ppl like it and some hate it :D

If you would like to see it , I could give u a lift sometime ;)

So what are you thinking of ?

WOW!!!
i've just heard about this car now, the price 60,000 would be a bit over my budget, so if they raise it more it'll be impossible to get it, also i need the car now, not next summer :D

pics of the chery car dealer in egypt

http://english.peopledaily.com.cn/200503/31/images/0330_E15.jpg

http://english.peopledaily.com.cn/200503/31/images/0330_E11.jpg

Well hazik, these are pics of the 1st dealer :D CIG group, which released the QQ & A11 when they were 1st released. But now there is another Dealer, Which is Abou el fotoh group. I dont know how, but there are 2 agents for one brand in Egypt, one (CIG) for QQ, A11 .... & (Abou el fotoh) for new models A6 , oriental son, Tiggo , crossover & so.

here are some LOW Quality pics ( sorry excuse my nokia again :P )
of the new Chery Dealer ( AbolFotoh ) and its new name " Speranza " :


Chery/ Speranza A5 dashboard and Clarion CD/MP3 player :
http://img110.imageshack.us/img110/8575/24082006001mt2.jpg

Speranza Logo on the back of the A5:
http://img47.imageshack.us/img47/1593/24082006xq9.jpg

Chery / Speranza A5 - 1.6L Acteco Engine :
http://img47.imageshack.us/img47/3120/24082006002qf9.jpg

a Small Speranza Showroom nearby :
http://img47.imageshack.us/img47/4097/324082006003py4.jpg

Do all Speranza cars come standard with the Clarion stereo system?

well, the A5 comes standard with the clarion system.... as for the A6 head unit i dont know, the VCD screens in the A6 are Symphony as standard, & Every A6 car that i saw in the showrooms, had a CD-changer in the back.

pics of A5 in China do they look different than in Egypt

http://www.mychery.net/forum/html/ut/attach/2006/04/23/6474885-7-embed.jpg

http://www.mychery.net/forum/html/ut/attach/2006/04/23/6474722-5-embed.jpg

http://www.mychery.net/forum/html/ut/attach/2006/04/23/6474674-1-embed.jpg

http://www.mychery.net/forum/html/ut/attach/2006/04/23/6474708-4-embed.jpg

more

http://www.mychery.net/forum/html/ut/attach/2006/04/23/6474788-9-embed.jpg

http://www.mychery.net/forum/html/ut/attach/2006/04/23/6474894-9-embed.jpg

http://www.mychery.net/forum/html/ut/attach/2006/04/23/6474763-8-embed.jpg

http://www.mychery.net/forum/html/ut/attach/2006/04/23/6474750-7-embed.jpg

except for the speranza word, & A5 ... no diff outside.
A/C here is not digital, manual control.... No steering wheel Audio control too. :) , same sport wheels :thumb:

also it is 1600CC and don't have rear parking sensors

We booked an A6, It will be recived @ 5/2007 :D
& I heard that they raised the prices... ?? anybody knows anything abt that?

yea its 70.000 L.E for the A516 :(

and 110.000 for the A620 :p

could u tell us when he booked, and how much does it cost?
coz i booked 8 or 9/8/2006 with 20000 egp and they(abo el fetooh alex )told me that i'll get it next december.


plz tell us about the price !!

really 70.000 or still 60.000 ???????

did u find what u wanted ???

i hope so

and please tell me more about it??

max speed u made with it ??

عامله اية مع المطبات لما يكون فيها 4 او 5 ؟؟ بتحك فيها ولا تمام ؟

بتسخن ولا لا؟؟

التكييف اية اخباره؟؟

اية اخبار التقفيل ؟؟تجميع نضيف كدة ولا زى الصرى ؟؟ ولا اوحش؟؟؟

الابواب صوتها مكتوم وانتا بتقفلها و متينة كدة ؟؟

استهلاك البنزين ! يعنى مثلا لو سافرت بها مكان ولا حاجة استهلكت كام لتر فى كام كيلو تقريبا؟؟؟

و اخبار الجرى ؟؟ والمناورات على اكتوبر والازتوستراد ؟؟؟

;) معلش زهقتك بس انا والله عجبانى العربية دى عن ال
A5

لانها تصميم السيات توليدو القديمة

و انتشرت من غير فرقعة وضة

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hay but i saw A5 2.0L in china !!!!!

but with an ACTCO motor too just2.0L not 1.6L

what do u think ??

ahh ....

i just want to know how they are baad ???

what that mean ?? promisses not done for ex..!

no services !!??

coz i told my uncle to buy a chery A11 LONG ( he got a big familly "6 pers.")

well, the chery (a11) has nothing to do with the new agent for speranza. this have its agent, & this got its agent , separate

i saw the A620 or B11 with the CIG in the AUTOMACH akhbarelyoum car show!!!

so they can import it ,

and DME assemble it ????

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Dear all

the latest news from abo ghaly automotive el marghany
i called them they told me i have to visit them to discuss something so i went there they showed me an ad. in the newspaper saying that they stop dealling with daweoo motors egypt and so they wont sell the speranza ????
and they told me the car got problems and that 2 cars was over heated and the motor burned and they say its not stable on the road and have many problems so they dont want to have problems with the customers !!!!!!!

i dont know if they are telling the truth or they are doing this just coz they cant get the speranza from abo el fotouh

any one who knows and news about this or about any problems with the speranza please let us know

it very bad that they are cheating the pepole here

Well, I guess the story they told u... is because Abou el fotoh didnt give them cars... cuz as far as i know they are not an official dealer. I mean when you go to " Abou ghaly motors " you'll find the showroom having the Speranza logo from the outside & so... cuz its an Speranza showroom? got me... so i dont know about " Abou ghaly Automotive " & it seems that it is not related in first place to " Abou ghaly motors " , cuz this one is an official dealer, & used to be the official dealer for daewoo in the past....
" 1st car " too is an official dealer, & in the past they were Daewoo official dealers.

About overheating & so, I guess not... a friend of mine had his A5 & he's so happy till now... i see him everyday & he's so happy to have it. no problems yet. About An engine getting blown or something... i dont know, but its a bit hard to imagine ... even if it was a fiat 128 :D .

Dear all we have athread talking about A512 but nothing about A620 so if any one have information can help others good or bad, please do share:D :D :D :D

model A516 is for 63900, and A520 is for 108000 EGP, at the agent they told me that A516 (model 2007)will come with the new digital air condtion with an LCD

this car is 1600cc generates 80Kw i.e about 108HP at 6000RPM, and the momentem is 144 N.m at 4200RPM which is a very good rating for this car as the generation mazda3 is 1600cc ,110HP, at 6000 RPM,momentem 142 at 4300RPM.
AS U INCREASE RPM YOU CAN GET MORE POWER BUT DECREASING THE LIFE TIME OF THE MOTOR which all of us do known as (kick down), the momentem is the car abality to pull a weight i.e u can get more momentem at higher RPM but it isn't good for the car
in the previous form u can compare.

the car is desinged by italian company penifinirina, motor by austrian comp. AVL www dot avl dot com), brakes by english comp. delphi(www dot delphi dot com), suspention macpherson, electronics by siemens, and over all 45% is egyptian components like (tin,doors foam,plastic parts, mirror,battery, wires,carpets, etc;...)which is used in all cars assembelled in egypt (daewoo, BMW, mercedes, suzuki, nissan, old fiat siena, petra, opel,hundyi,sahin, aveo, optra,......)
this car produced 500,000 in china , so what's u opinion
Dear all

the latest news from abo ghaly automotive el marghany
i called them they told me i have to visit them to discuss something so i went there they showed me an ad. in the newspaper saying that they stop dealling with daweoo motors egypt and so they wont sell the speranza ????
and they told me the car got problems and that 2 cars was over heated and the motor burned and they say its not stable on the road and have many problems so they dont want to have problems with the customers !!!!!!!

i dont know if they are telling the truth or they are doing this just coz they cant get the speranza from abo el fotouh

any one who knows and news about this or about any problems with the speranza please let us know

it very bad that they are cheating the pepole here

hi . we need any responsible one from abo elfotuh tell us how much is the capacity of production/ month. as a big company why they do not do website for them, where is the general relation department of eltotuh comp.
i know that hasan is intelligant enough to do that simple customer service.:confused: :confused: ;)

As far as i heard, they'll deliver 40 cars per month. or a figure close to this.

this number is too little, i.e 480 car per year, i don't think so , it may be 400 car per month , i think that is acceptable, isn't it?
the day before i reserved the list had 54 customer in alex only in one day, so about 350 customer per day over all egypt, which leads to abo el fottoh group told me that (ISA) i'll have my car in next december.
i hope any body gets his car , tell us about the car performance, stability, when he reserved?, etc

:lol: the salesman of first car agent told me that they recieve 40 cars of both models /month. but uptill now i did not see any car runing in giza, kindly any one knows any news can tell us, to day i have read assay in alfagr newspaper with hasan abu el fotuh who said that the retardation of production is from chery it self .

Dear all

the latest news from abo ghaly automotive el marghany
i called them they told me i have to visit them to discuss something so i went there they showed me an ad. in the newspaper saying that they stop dealling with daweoo motors egypt and so they wont sell the speranza ????
and they told me the car got problems and that 2 cars was over heated and the motor burned and they say its not stable on the road and have many problems so they dont want to have problems with the customers !!!!!!!

i dont know if they are telling the truth or they are doing this just coz they cant get the speranza from abo el fotouh

any one who knows and news about this or about any problems with the speranza please let us know

it very bad that they are cheating the pepole here

I also asked Abou Ghaly Autpmotive Alex, and they told me that they will break up with abou el foutouh, because he wants to give them the car after a year from now, which they do not accept, and that's why they break up with him.
but about the car having problems, I think they say that as of course they are mad of abou el foutouh.

DEAR ALL WE WANT ONE TO GO TO ABO ELFOYUH AND THE RESPONSIBLE PERSON OF THAT AGENCY TELLS US WHAT IS THE TRUTH ABOUT THAT SPERANZA A516, AND WHAT IS THERE SCHEDULE AND WHO IS THE ACTUAL DEALERS AND WHAT ABOUT THE OVERHEATING, WHY HASAN ABO ELFUTOH KEEP SILENCE/??!!:nono: :nono:

since 3 weeks i didn't see any new announcement for the new car, and abo el fotooh show room in alex now is vacant of customers, because i need a car now not after one year.
there is car (A516) at automobile samir in the front of amir cinema at ramal station and he told me that is sold. (the car is there for 3 weeks at least), if any body knowes the owner , plz tell him to receive his car ;)

is it going to be like the Kia problem between the old and the new agent?
isn't there any body work or know someone work at this factory to tell us?

hay but i saw A5 2.0L in china !!!!!

but with an ACTCO motor too just2.0L not 1.6L

what do u think ??
this car has 2 versions A516, and A520 and both are acteco engine, but at egypt named as A516, and A620

THE SECRET OF THIS CAR IS A PERPLEXING ONE WHERE IS THE CUSTOMERCARE DEPARTMENT OF ABO ELFOTUH TO TELL US ANY ONE KNOWS HIM CAN ADVISE HIM TO ANNOUNCE ALL DATA ABOUT THAT CAR.:mad: :thumb:

latest news i have from the newspaper

both cars are at ALRABI3 TRADE

A516 = 70000 LE

A620 = 11000 LE

instant delivery

1-Why they stoped advertisment !!!
2-Why the dont want to make any test drive or even start the engine in the show rooms.
3-where is the people who get it ? I would like to meet any one of them to ask him about the car.
4-Do any one know that their is a hot line for the speranza which is 19227
5-We really need to discuss many things with some one have this car.

i saw these prices at al- ahram, one week after the first advertisment, but in alex the car is a ghost

why are you so paranoid ? did you pay anything ?

Thank's

i saw these prices at al- ahram, one week after the first advertisment, but in alex the car is a ghost
I thought like you in the begining, but I saw the car many times in Cairo, and one day in the last two weeks, I went with a friend to renew his car license in Alex (Moror Maharam Biek), and I found some one licensing his A516, its color was (Melon Biege or Gold), he said that the car is good.

well, there was an article with hassan abou el fotoh at " el fagr " newspaper, it was about his father, but there was some talking about the car.
The official dealer with Abou el fotoh are " abou ghali motors " , the other " abou ghali automotive " has no relation , as they had some problems with the agent , abou el foto7... so they went telling people that its a bad car & that 2 cars over heated... and thats why they dont want to get the car... & thats bull shit, cuz the agent at da 1st place did not give them cars. but instead he's working with " abou ghali motors " which was the official Daewoo dealer in the past. I dont know why the hell the production is too slow, But hassan said that any delay is from the mother company in china, & not from here.... anyways i see alot of A516's on the street. & @ abou ghali gamet el dowal showroom, they brought another A6, for showin which is RED coloured... just seen it yesterday.

Hi, all

I got my car A516 just 6 days ago the CAR is very very good in all performance (Engine , suspension ….. ) Just there one thing it make about 240 Km for 20 L , I got 900 km until now with this car there is no any over engine heat every thing is normal and let me tell you something I work in a big famous car company agent for some famous Brands and my friends here in the service center take a look and make a test drive for my car all of them told me it’s a very very good car and I believe them .

One thing else that abouel fotoh is a big company in the market with good reputation and we believe and trust in him.
Any one need to ask me about the car feel free to call me 010 1738821.

well my congratulation Besho..hope to injoy the car..
meanwhile am at U.K but i wanna ask u about the date that u reserved the car at??did they deliver the car at the same date that they told u??
from where did u reserve it??
i reserve my car just last monday from abou elftoh el m3ady..and they told me that i will get my car at the next 6 months (isa) one last thing..
did they deliver the car at the same coloure that u reserved??
congratulation again..and thx for sendig to us

thanks bandit, about the promise date that will deliver the car I think all the sales men in all branches doesn't know exactly when will they deliver the car,
that what happen wth me they doesn't give me exactly date to deliver my car
- but when they call me to receive my car it was the same color that I reserved
and it was from el m3ady branch.

Oukay guys, while returning today from college, @ 6th october city... on "el me7war " I saw a couple of speranza's :D , A6 & A5's ... being transported. brand new, no license plates. the A6 on the road looks gr8! very big rear lights, i didnt notice them @ the showroom.

alf mabrouk besho, and thanks for feeding us with data about the car.
could i ask u about when did u exactly reserve your car?
i asked u because they told me, u will recieve next december, and i reserverd at 9/8/2006, so i want to get an approximate time
congratulation again and i hope that u amuse this car(ISA)
thanks

the 2 quesstions
when he reserved? and how much did it cost him?
i hope that u asked him these 2 questions !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

alf mabrouk besho, and thanks for feeding us with data about the car.
could i ask u about when did u exactly reserve your car?
i asked u because they told me, u will recieve next december, and i reserverd at 9/8/2006, so i want to get an approximate time
congratulation again and i hope that u amuse this car(ISA)
thanks
Thanks moh_gawad, I booked my car in the first day of booking it was 6/8/2006 1:30 PM and it was a lot of people there for booking too. I hope you get your car soon and belive me this car will making you extremely enjoying Insh'allah.

any pics Besho for your car to share?? :D

To Besho

could you please tell us from which showroom you booked your car, and on what date they called you to recieve it, thanks a lot

thanks a lot for ur introduction, and i hope that i recieve my car as soon as possible, as u said that u booked 6/8/2006, so about 45 days to recieve as the agent said ISA.

Hi, all

I got my car A516 just 6 days ago the CAR is very very good in all performance (Engine , suspension ….. ) Just there one thing it make about 240 Km for 20 L , I got 900 km until now with this car there is no any over engine heat every thing is normal and let me tell you something I work in a big famous car company agent for some famous Brands and my friends here in the service center take a look and make a test drive for my car all of them told me it’s a very very good car and I believe them .

One thing else that abouel fotoh is a big company in the market with good reputation and we believe and trust in him.
Any one need to ask me about the car feel free to call me 010 1738821.

Thanks a lot Besho, that was great, and that was the feedback we all wanted, as the car was like a black box for us, any way, Congratulations for your car.

the 2 quesstions
when he reserved? and how much did it cost him?
i hope that u asked him these 2 questions !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
no I am sorry I did not ask him these questions, as he was busy licensing it, but really there is a big problem in Alex, which is there is only Abou el Foutouh, no other dealers or show rooms, I my self booked my car from Abou Ghlay motors in Cairo (As I work in cairo), after booking with AbouGhlay Automotive in Alex, and he gave us back our money, so I went and booked in Abou Ghaly Motors in Cairo, that made my deliver date far from now!!!!!!!!!, so far !!!!!!!!!, but any way I can wait a little as Ithink they may increase thier rate of production , and the time will be shifted earler (insha2 allah)

HI EVERY BODY , KINDLY IF ANY ONE RECEIVED HIS CAR FROM THE FIRST CAR DEALER CAN TELL US ON WT DATE HIS RESERVATION, AND HOW MANY CAR A516 DELIVERED EVERY MONTH, THANKS IN ADVANCE:lol:

i booked my car with 1st car on 4/8/2006. and i just recieved my car today 26/9/2006.
i recieved the 2006 model for 59,900
my car is silver color and is very well built.

The dealer told me that this is thier 3rd patch to be deliverd and each patch is 10 cars so they deliverd around 30 cars.

i tried to license my car today but the dmv closes at 12:00 ramadan working hours from 9 to 12.
so, i'll try again tomorrow.

i hope you recieve your car soon.

Fmoly, lots of good luck with your new A516. Hope you have lots of happy motoring miles with it.

Also BEST WISHES on RAMADAN to you and all our friends on this forum who celebrate it.

Fmohiy, please keep us posted on the car's performance and reliability.

It's got a solid look to it and I'm guessing you will be happy with its quality.


东方之子

:lol: i booked my car with 1st car on 4/8/2006. and i just recieved my car today 26/9/2006.
i recieved the 2006 model for 59,900
my car is silver color and is very well built.

The dealer told me that this is thier 3rd patch to be deliverd and each patch is 10 cars so they deliverd around 30 cars.

i tried to license my car today but the dmv closes at 12:00 ramadan working hours from 9 to 12.
so, i'll try again tomorrow.

i hope you recieve your car soon.

here is my review of A516
i've driven the car only once till now so this is a first impression article more than a review.
I previously drove a fiat regata and currently own a chery qq automatic.

A516 certainly feels as a big family car, its dimesnsions are huge but inspite of that i feel it has a better front view that my regata. The seats are rather high and this helps in seeing the car's front hood and feel its size while driving. The car has a high rear end and this results in a bad rear view. I can hardly make out what is behind me. Maybe because this was my first ride and it was dark, i hope i get more used to the rear view later.
The engine feels very smooth and strong enough for sensible driving and maybe even a little racing.
The car's brakes i feel are good and strong. The car should have ABS but i couldn't find an ABS lamp in the dashboard when i started the car, i'll look again.
The car feels heavy on the road which is a good thing, it gives you confidence to take curves at high speed.
the clarion sound system is very distracting. I still don't know how to use it and i keep pressing the wrong buttons while driving. but its sound is top notch.
I tried the fans and they are a little noisy. i tried the a/c while it was standing and it was just adequate. just a little better than my QQ, nothing at all like the a/cs of japanese cars. I'll try it again on the move and tell you.
The headlamp is very powerful and gives a good distribution of the light in front of you.
The remote control takes some getting used to. you have two buttons , one that closes and opens the car locks and the other one opens the boot.
If you press on the car lock button a small press, it lock the doors but the windows stay open. you have to press a long time on the button for the windows to close.
well, that's all i have for now, i'll take some pictures and post them later and i'll keep you posted as much as i can.


bye

mabrook but we need details about motor overheating and fiuel consumption. also about a/c they said it is french bakara and they will change it by japanese digital one, again 2lf mabrook.:cool:

Congrats! Fmohiy. You're the only person here that owns 2 Cherys. Are you going to drive the Speranza more or QQ more?

The QQ is actually my wife's car and i was just driving it till i bought my own. so, i'm gonna drive the A5 mostly.

I found a nice feature in the A5 today, it can calculate your current fuel consumption rate while driving. This is very informative, depressing and distracting at the same time.
I kept looking at the consumption rate while driving and kept hoping i don't have an accident. The car on 80 km/h constant speed consumes between 4.5 to 7.5 l/100 km on 4th gear with no A/C.
The A/C adds about 1L/100 km extra to these numbers.
If you even think about accelerating the conumption ranges from 9 to 13 L/100km.
I won't know how these numbers convert to actual fuel cinsumption till i refuel my car next week.
The sound system is AWESOME!! but is hard to use while driving.
The sound system's lcd screen is VERY hard to read in strong daylight but is a joy at night.
I found parking to be rather easy, not harder than my old regata.

I'll post more reviews later.

here is my review of A516
i've driven the car only once till now so this is a first impression article more than a review.
I previously drove a fiat regata and currently own a chery qq automatic.

A516 certainly feels as a big family car, its dimesnsions are huge but inspite of that i feel it has a better front view that my regata. The seats are rather high and this helps in seeing the car's front hood and feel its size while driving. The car has a high rear end and this results in a bad rear view. I can hardly make out what is behind me. Maybe because this was my first ride and it was dark, i hope i get more used to the rear view later.
The engine feels very smooth and strong enough for sensible driving and maybe even a little racing.
The car's brakes i feel are good and strong. The car should have ABS but i couldn't find an ABS lamp in the dashboard when i started the car, i'll look again.
The car feels heavy on the road which is a good thing, it gives you confidence to take curves at high speed.
the clarion sound system is very distracting. I still don't know how to use it and i keep pressing the wrong buttons while driving. but its sound is top notch.
I tried the fans and they are a little noisy. i tried the a/c while it was standing and it was just adequate. just a little better than my QQ, nothing at all like the a/cs of japanese cars. I'll try it again on the move and tell you.
The headlamp is very powerful and gives a good distribution of the light in front of you.
The remote control takes some getting used to. you have two buttons , one that closes and opens the car locks and the other one opens the boot.
If you press on the car lock button a small press, it lock the doors but the windows stay open. you have to press a long time on the button for the windows to close.
well, that's all i have for now, i'll take some pictures and post them later and i'll keep you posted as much as i can.


bye

Congratulations, and thanks a lot for the feedback

The QQ is actually my wife's car and i was just driving it till i bought my own. so, i'm gonna drive the A5 mostly.

I found a nice feature in the A5 today, it can calculate your current fuel consumption rate while driving. This is very informative, depressing and distracting at the same time.
I kept looking at the consumption rate while driving and kept hoping i don't have an accident. The car on 80 km/h constant speed consumes between 4.5 to 7.5 l/100 km on 4th gear with no A/C.
The A/C adds about 1L/100 km extra to these numbers.
If you even think about accelerating the conumption ranges from 9 to 13 L/100km.
I won't know how these numbers convert to actual fuel cinsumption till i refuel my car next week.
The sound system is AWESOME!! but is hard to use while driving.
The sound system's lcd screen is VERY hard to read in strong daylight but is a joy at night.
I found parking to be rather easy, not harder than my old regata.

I'll post more reviews later.


I thought those meters that calculate your current fuel consumption rate while driving where only found on luxury cars. 4.5 -7 litre/100km is very good, my old honda accord gets 9 liters /100km. That gauge on my friends Lexus sometimes reads 25litres/100km when stepping on the accelerator hard so it's prob. not very accurate even on Lexus. Don't worry too much about that meter. Chery's website saids the 1.6 litre A5 should get 5.2 litres/100km.

The 1.6 litre Chery A5 was just launched in China. it cost 77,777RMB - 85,800RMB (10000USD - 10900USD). The 2.0 litre cost 88,888RMB -105,800RMB (11,400USD - 13,800USD). Only the manual transmission is available. Cars weight is 1290kg, Tires 195/55 R15. 1.6 litre has 80kw (119hp) 2.0 litre has 95kw (142hp). Fuel Tank holds 52 litres of fuel. 5.2l/100km for 1.6 litre and 5.5l/100km for 2.0 litre.

http://www.chery.cn:8080/web/product/a5/a5product_setup.asp

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as i know to convert from KW to mechnical horse power, u must divide
kw*1000/ 735
for example A516 80kw, so
HP=80000/735= 108.8~109 hp ,not 119hp
today i saw a light blue (A516) privite cario was entering green plaza, it lovely(MSA), i don't know if the ower is a member in this fourms to tell us about the stability on the road, a/c , fuel consumption, etc

hii all..congrats to all that have lastly had the car...but i wanna ask about the working time at abou elftooh el maady at ramadan..thx
really you are a great forum

in alex from sunday to thursday from 10 am:8 pm
but i don't know what is the time in ramadan

the oweners number is increasing now and everyone is telling a some thing from his point of view about the car which leads to get a brief idea before we recieve (ISA)

Specifications of CHERY A5 from the next site
http://www.cheryglobal.com/a5_%20Specifications%20.htm

Specifications
Engine 2.0L(ACTECO) 1.6L(ACTECO)
Transmission 5MT
Drive Front 2WD
ENVIRONMENTAL PERFORMANCE 　 　
Fuel consumption
Fuel consumption at 90KM/h(Litres/100km) L 6.8 6.6
Fuel tank capacity 52
Emission
Emission class EUⅢ
Noise level dB 74
PERFORMANCE 　 　
Maximum speed km/h 185 180
Acceleration 0-100km/h ( full loading) Sec 13 16
SUSPENSION 　 　
Front Independent Macpherson strut with coil spring tube damper and anti-roll bar.
Rear Independent Multi-link type with coil spring tube damper and anti-roll bar.
Steering 　 　
System Power assisted rack and pinion steering. Energy absorbing collapsible steering tilt column
BRAKES 　 　
System Dual diagonal split circuit, power assisted with ABS and EBD
Front Discs (Ventilation)
Rear Discs
ESP Available
ENGINE 　 　
Engine code SQR484F SQR481F
Number of cylinders 4 in line
Bore x Stroke mm 83.5×90 81×77.5
Valve mechanism 16 valve DOHC
Fuel injection system Electronic multipoint injection
Displacement cc 1971 1597
Bore × Stroke mm 83.5×90 81×77.5
Compression ratio 10 10.5
Maximum power Kw/rpm 95/5500 80/6000
Maximum torque Nm/rpm 180/4300~4500 144/4300~4500
Fuel type Unleaded fuel
WEIGHTS 　 　
Kerb weight kg 1290
Gross vehicle weight 1665
DIMENSIONS 　 　
Length mm 4552
Width 1750
Height 1483
Wheelbase 2600
Front tread 1505
Rear tread 1505
Minimum ground clearance(full loading) 124
Front overhang 940
Rear overhang 1012
Turning radius-minimun m 5.3
Approach angle 14°
Departure angle 18°
Boot capacity,with rear seat upright L 483
Seating capacity Persons 5
TYRES 　
Size 195/55R15 84V
Spare tyre 185/65R14 86S
Wheel rim 6J×15
the differance between the model (a516)in egypt and the others are
1. no 2.0 liter engine
2. tyers including the spare is 195/55/R15

hii i am ahmed el ghamry a salesman in DME ,DME are considered as the dealer of the new brand which is speranza which is under the production license of chery automotive not of the old models as a11 and qq ,but the chery company decided to change the name because the final finish of the car is in the DME factories so it is manufactered in egypt and other are imported from china

Ramadan Kareem Every Body.
Kindly If One Knows What Is There Schedules For Delivery Of A516 To Thier Customers, Wt Is The Last Date Of Resrvation Already Had Reieved His Car. Tks A Lot;)

RAMADAN KAREEM EVERY BODY.
KINDLY IF ANY BODY KNOWS THE SCHEDULE OF DELIVERY OF A516 FOR THIER CUSTOMER , BECAUSE AS WE SEE FROM THE FORUM THERE IS APPARENT RETARDATION OF DELIVERY IN COMPARISON TO ABU EL FOTOOH.
THANK U IN ADVANCE.:confused:

hii i am ahmed el ghamry a salesman in DME ,DME are considered as the dealer of the new brand which is speranza which is under the production license of chery automotive not of the old models as a11 and qq ,but the chery company decided to change the name because the final finish of the car is in the DME factories so it is manufactered in egypt and other are imported from china
wellcome ahmed , thanks for ur comment but i want to ask u about some things

1. the car has many names in several counteries (CHERYA516,A520; SPERANZA A516,A620; CHERY A21; ORIENTAL SON,B11.............. ) why it has many names?
2. increasing the price without adding new option exept digital a/c was a mistake, especialley before the car run on the road, and the car has a very good look but has no audition in egypt
3. a very long period from reserveing to the recieving date.
4. firstlly i was the car at carrfour alex, i reserved 9/8/2006 at ur branch,and every one told any a different time to recieve, i don't u who is true, and who is false
5. there is no new advertisment in the media sience more than 4 weeks
6 what is the avilable colors, some told 14, others told 6 only?
7. some friend has lanous saw A516 at the maintenance center was entering to make first 1000km, and they told him that there is no spare parts uptill now, is it true?
8. could we see these cars imported from china under any other names?
i think u knows the problem between Mr. waleed tawfik the old kia agent,and Mr. Mohamed nosser the new one, may it hapeen between DME, CIG.


excuse me for all above comments , but i reserved 2 cars, so i very worry
thanks again AND wellcome forums

I saw the A516 today at Abu Ghali El-Nozha St., the one that always had Daeow cars, he had Silver one and a Black one, the car it totally AWESOME

one question....
what's the current price of the A516?!!
and if i reserve it in November, when would i recieve it?!!

hi every body

i think i'll lose my patience , coz i booked my car at abou elfotouh motors (20000 LE deposit for A516)since 10/8/2006 , & until now no one phone me to bring up the car , so may be i 'll buy another car (used japanese cars) because i am suffering from not having a car till now , i think that the dealer can not control the selling capacity of this car , (not reliable) the price is not constant when you get the car may be it reaches 70000 LE not 59900 LE when i was decided to book the car.

some one till me what to do???????? :mad:

i will answer all of ur questions now
1.the car named in egypt as speranza for the new gwneration of chery's models so they want for people not to be confused so in egypt it is speranza because its final finish was in egypt
2.according to the demand and supply the car was incresing in price becoz it is not its actual price in the first time so increasing price is a reasonable thing for
increasing on demand it is a mater of market changes
3.i know that it is the problem of the car but it is due to the highest demand
of the cars so that it became early for every one who wants to receive the car but that not becoz of us but becoz of great demand
4.according to alex branch they says to u after say 3 months now we are considering a database for receiving so u now go to the branch say to them
to open the comp and the told u the exact date of receive
5.because of great demand and new models will come nearly
6.available colors of a516 are 14 but for a620 are 4 they are gray,black,silver,white
7.it is not true things becoz the spare parts are on the maintenance center
since 20 days before the advertising made
8.no the new brand are considered as speranza so forget that this car is chery but it is speranza a brand that is a sub bransh of chery automotive
so the name is not comman and the finish also about 25% of the car egyptian components so it is easly to find spare parts at mainteance center
thx if u have any question reply me :thumb:

hii i am ahmed el ghamry a salesman in DME ,DME are considered as the dealer of the new brand which is speranza which is under the production license of chery automotive not of the old models as a11 and qq ,but the chery company decided to change the name because the final finish of the car is in the DME factories so it is manufactered in egypt and other are imported from china

plz mr/ghamry 21

can you till me when i'm suppose to deliver my car , i reserve it in 10/8/2006 A516

thank you very much:)

thanks a lot for answering me ,ISA next sunday i'll go to alex branch to ask them about my recieving date of the two cars, and i hope that they help me
thanks again for ur fast respond

now u don't have a car, now i trying to sell my car Siena plus,but i am confused to sell now or after the new car comes, i am affraid of that the A516 will decrease all old car prices as it runs
big problem, isn't it???????????????

as at contactcars site (www.contactcars.com) the model A516 is for 63900LE
as for ur question, all of us don't know, but i advice u as Mr. ahmed ghamery said to go to ur branch and ask them about the recieving date

i think the if u wait till ur new car comes, u'll sell it for the best rice u can get cuz u'll be patient with the dealers and u'll get the price u want

this car has 2 versions A516, and A520 and both are acteco engine, but at egypt named as A516, and A620
the a516 are acteco engine but the a62o are mitsubishi 2000 c.c engine

:thumb: hii i am ahmed el ghamry a salesman in DME ,DME are considered as the dealer of the new brand which is speranza which is under the production license of chery automotive not of the old models as a11 and qq ,but the chery company decided to change the name because the final finish of the car is in the DME factories so it is manufactered in egypt and other are imported from china
Hi Mr Ghamry, welcome to the forum, I am glade that you work in DME, as I hope you will be able to answer our questions (it will be a night mare, I Know, but it is only you to answer us :) :D ).
I booked my car late from Abou Ghaly Motors, they told me in next August 2007 !!!!!!!!! which is not reasonable, my question is DME going to speed up the production?, how many cars (Speranzas) are pumped to the street every month?, as I want to know when exactly I am going to have my car, to get ready and sell my old car :thumb:

6.available colors of a516 are 14 but for a620 are 4 they are gray,black,silver,white

HOw come you say so, & @ abou el fotoh's gamet el doal st. showroom, there is a - RED - A620!? :rolleyes: , & i've seen more than one DARK BLUE , A620's @ the streets in mohandessin.

excuse Egytuner
he saw a Red Daewoo Nubira .. he thought it was A620

[ :confused: DEAR MR GHAMRY I ALREADY RESERVED MY CAR FROM FIRSTCAR, AUTHERISED DEALER OF ABO ELFOTOH. ON 6/8 2006 HE TOLD ME AFTER 1.5 MONTH ISA U WILL RECIEVE UR CAR BUT UP TILL NOW NO NEWS SO WHY THERE IS NO WEB SITE FOR THE REPUTABLE COMPANY DME , TO INFORM US ABOUT ALL DETAILS TO STOP CONFUSION. THANK U INADVANCEQUOTE=ghamry21]i will answer all of ur questions now
1.the car named in egypt as speranza for the new gwneration of chery's models so they want for people not to be confused so in egypt it is speranza because its final finish was in egypt
2.according to the demand and supply the car was incresing in price becoz it is not its actual price in the first time so increasing price is a reasonable thing for
increasing on demand it is a mater of market changes
3.i know that it is the problem of the car but it is due to the highest demand
of the cars so that it became early for every one who wants to receive the car but that not becoz of us but becoz of great demand
4.according to alex branch they says to u after say 3 months now we are considering a database for receiving so u now go to the branch say to them
to open the comp and the told u the exact date of receive
5.because of great demand and new models will come nearly
6.available colors of a516 are 14 but for a620 are 4 they are gray,black,silver,white
7.it is not true things becoz the spare parts are on the maintenance center
since 20 days before the advertising made
8.no the new brand are considered as speranza so forget that this car is chery but it is speranza a brand that is a sub bransh of chery automotive
so the name is not comman and the finish also about 25% of the car egyptian components so it is easly to find spare parts at mainteance center
thx if u have any question reply me :thumb:[/QUOTE]

My name is Ahmed El Ghamry
I work for DME !

What is the fact that DME (Abou Elfotouh )have big problems with (Abo Ghaly motors) and that DME will not give them the cars any more !!!!????

Ramadaaan Kareeem for all in da forum

and big MABROOOK for all who get the car .

i have 2 questions for them :

1 - do u have the audio palales in the sreering wheel ?

2- when 4 persons are in the car , dose the back view is good ?

mabrooooook again

and 3okbalna gami3an

I got my A516 yesterday ya gama3a but i want to ask quesion i find that the A/C didn't work perfect as it's 1600 cc motor so any 1 have seperanza plz tell me that if it's A/C isn't good or my car want to go service?

hi , i want someone whom has delivered his new car to tell us what are the strengths & weakness of the A516 ? , And what is the heat issue of this engine ?

thanks

There is no heat issue with the engine. it stays stable at the middle whatever i do.
the only weakness i feel uptill now is the fuel consumption. but i won't be sure till i refuell the car next week. i'll tell you more then.

I got my A516 yesterday ya gama3a but i want to ask quesion i find that the A/C didn't work perfect as it's 1600 cc motor so any 1 have seperanza plz tell me that if it's A/C isn't good or my car want to go service?

my a/c is not good too. it is very weak. i think this is easily fixed at the dealer but i',m not sure as i have't called them yet.

what is your opinion of the car other than that?

by the way, do you know the phone number for speranza service center? thanks

: I got my A516 yesterday ya gama3a but i want to ask quesion i find that the A/C didn't work perfect as it's 1600 cc motor so any 1 have seperanza plz tell me that if it's A/C isn't good or my car want to go service?

:thumb: Dear (ahamed30) Alf Mabrouk for your new car
i want to know when u bocked your car and where to calculate the time taken to receive the car.

How does Speranza A620 look like. Does it look like this? And how much does it cost.

http://cimg.163.com/photo/0008/2006-02-22/2AJ8HMNG01M10008.jpg

http://cimg.163.com/photo/0008/2006-02-22/2AJ9ALUP01M10008.jpg

yes it looks like that and it's sold for $18850

Hi every body
Happy ramdan & congratulation for whom delivered the car
I think that i lost my patience , coz i booked my car at Abo Elfotouh motors in Elmohandesen (20000 LE deposit for A516) since 10/8/2006 , & until now no one phone me to deliver the car , i think that the dealer can not control the selling capacity of this car because of the large demand on this car which inturn makes him raise the price as the mater of fact demand & supply, thus the dealer is not reliable ; the price is not constant when you get the car's price may reaches 70000 LE + , not 59900 LE when i was decided to book the car. :confused:

hii i am ahmed el ghamry a salesman in DME ,DME are considered as the dealer of the new brand which is speranza which is under the production license of chery automotive not of the old models as a11 and qq ,but the chery company decided to change the name because the final finish of the car is in the DME factories so it is manufactered in egypt and other are imported from china
hii Mr. ghamry..thx for joining the forum...
i had reserved A516 from abou elftoo7 elma3ady at 18/9/2006
and they told me that i can get it during the next 6 months...
idont know if it is true or if its just a promisse????
kindly tell me about when the expected date of delivery ????
one more thing i just wanna know about the working time at abou el ftoo7 elm3ady at ramadan????
thx alot

dears why mr. ghamry as a member of abo elfutoh comp.inform his boss to do a website for abo elfotoh for customer srvice like any reputable car company.
this is the ehtics to do if he respect his name and his customers ; like any civilised country we are not less than yemen even so.:eek:

the a516 are acteco engine but the a62o are mitsubishi 2000 c.c engine
i mean the another version A520, i saw it at cherry site , i don't mean A620 which is named in china oriental son which is mitsubishi technolgey.

i will answer all of ur questions now
1.the car named in egypt as speranza for the new gwneration of chery's models so they want for people not to be confused so in egypt it is speranza because its final finish was in egypt
2.according to the demand and supply the car was incresing in price becoz it is not its actual price in the first time so increasing price is a reasonable thing for
increasing on demand it is a mater of market changes
3.i know that it is the problem of the car but it is due to the highest demand
of the cars so that it became early for every one who wants to receive the car but that not becoz of us but becoz of great demand
4.according to alex branch they says to u after say 3 months now we are considering a database for receiving so u now go to the branch say to them
to open the comp and the told u the exact date of receive
5.because of great demand and new models will come nearly
6.available colors of a516 are 14 but for a620 are 4 they are gray,black,silver,white
7.it is not true things becoz the spare parts are on the maintenance center
since 20 days before the advertising made
8.no the new brand are considered as speranza so forget that this car is chery but it is speranza a brand that is a sub bransh of chery automotive
so the name is not comman and the finish also about 25% of the car egyptian components so it is easly to find spare parts at mainteance center
thx if u have any question reply me :thumb:
i went to alex branch and i asked for the exact or approximated time for recieving they told me as we said before next december.
and when i asked about that there is no cars running on the road they told me just give us about ten days i.e 10/10/2006 and i'll see the countery full of it , i hope so
if i find any car on the road i'll stop the driver and try to get all data and spread it

post your questions and i'll do my best to reply. i drove mine 500 kms uptil now.

when did u bocked ur car and where.?

i booked my car with 1st car on 4/8/2006. i was promised to get the car on 1st week of september, i got it on 26/9/2006. i wanted a grey color but only silver was available so i accepted it.

Thanks for ur reply

I own a chery QQ ezdrive and speranza A516 is my second car. I used to own a fiat regate 1500cc. I drove previously a lada niva and a renault 5.

I booked my car on friday 4/8/2006 with 1st car showroom. I paid 10,000 EGP. i recieved my car on 26/9/2006. The car had 14 kms on the meter. now it has 500 after 5 days driving.

The car is BIG!! size more related to nubira than to lanos. Its size melts away when driving because you have excellent front view and adequate rear view, only parking is a little tricky but not hard. Parking with the side view mirrors is very good.

The seats are in high position and i like that. They are fairly comfortable but i once sat in a toyota yaris seat and it was much better.
You have a driver side console on which the driver can rest his arm but it is placed very far behind that only drivers that push their seats all the way back can use it well. the console opens on two levels and is useful but is hard to open and close while driving because it is placed back as i said.

The dashboard material used is normal for a car of this price. and better than other chinese cars i saw (geely).

the car is HEAVY!! and this affects performance and fuel economy. it weighs 1300 kgs, about 200 kgs more than similarly sized cars. this weight needs a more powerful engine than the one it has.

The engine is 1600cc developed by chery with help from avl. its max hp (107 according to the car manual) is fine but its torque (144 at 4000 rpm) is set vert high on the rpm range. what this means that the car doesn't feel nimble and responds fast from the begining of the gear or even at normal driving rpm (which is for most people between 2500 to 3500 rpm). this translates to the driver pressing the gas pedal harder to get an acceptable acceleration from the car. I must add that the car in no way feels slow AT ALL!! it is just that i feel the car should have had a little bit more powerful engine or at least have the torque at 3500 rpm for RELAXED performance. The car accelerates great as long as you are willing to push the pedal a little hard.

the car's tank is 52 litres. i filled the car up and reset the counter. when the fuel needle reached the middle of the gauge, i had done 300 kms. i will refill the car and then give you a more accurate measure.

the audio system is Awsome. it plays mp3s great but only shows track number not its name, don't know why.

The A/C is a dissappointment, it is very weak temperature wise. i hope they fix this in the first 1000 kms service.

i'll write more later, i hope all A516 owners write their experience.

bye

now we have some experience about the accleration, parking, chairs, fuel consumption
and all are point of views which may vary from some one to other
thanks for data, and we hope more and more

Great feedback fmohiy....

Ask them to pressure test the Air Conditioning System for leaks and top off the charge. Tell them to make sure the heater cable (if it has one) is adjusted properly to ensure that it's not on a bit, when in the off position.

Make sure you have enough tire air pressure for optimum fuel economy.

The quality of the after sales service will tell us a lot about Chery.

What is the maximum speed on A516 can it go 190km/h.

well, i'm still in the run in period (first 1000 kms) and i reached 140 kms with minimum effort while on the highway. I accelerated from 100 to 140 and them back again. But from standstill i believe getting much speed quickly is not so easy.

Thanks man keep it comming

well, i'm still in the run in period (first 1000 kms) and i reached 140 kms with minimum effort while on the highway. I accelerated from 100 to 140 and them back again. But from standstill i believe getting much speed quickly is not so easy.
as th edata sheet told that the car can accelerate from 0-100km/h ( full loading) in 16 seconds, isn't it?
is the avobe is smiliar as in the manual?

Since we're all from different parts of the world - exactly where are you located?

i am Egyptian, Exactly from a seaboard governorment named Alexandria, and i am an automatic control engineer

Actually I was asking the person who started this topic :p

But it's great to know we have someone from Egypt! How cool! Are there a lot of Chinese made cars there?

the thread starter too is from Egypt, this forum is full of egyptians since we started importing Chinese cars in 2004, ppl were skeptical about them and thought thy were crap, Geely prooved that point of view while Chery & Hafei proved them wrong :)

How come there's nobody here from Syria? Syria imports alot of Chinese cars.

once fmohiy told that he didn't find an ABS lamp in the dashboard, is the car has ABS as the agent said or it's just a joke?
could any owner gives us this information?

How come there's nobody here from Syria? Syria imports alot of Chinese cars.
I guess they dont use computers as much as we do... hehe

& about the top speed, a friend of mine reached 200km/h with his 1.6 A5... in an open straight road. :cool:

the A516 has no airbags but the A620 has 2 airbags as the dealer said

i found the abs light, i was just looking in the wrong place :)

ur answer assures me that they will do what they say before not just flying words
i want to ask about a/c as at contactcars site conservations, somebody told that they remove the heating facility to make the a/c works equality, is it true?

I guess they dont use computers as much as we do... hehe
no one else in the middle east uses the internet as much as us, i saw the statistics last year, Egypt was #1, and far behind were Saudi Arabia & Palestine

sadly yes, that is what they did,but i have yet to do my 1000 km service and i intend to tell them to fix the a\c for real, not just a temp solution.

the a/c is working and all, it is just weaker than i thought it would be, not at all the performce of a 1.6 cc car a/c

i think u must to insist on actual maintenance, all car options working in a good condtion, not just repair something and stop the function of the other!

i dowloaded the user,and maintenance manuals of A11,A15,and B11 from chery site, and i saw some sheets must be completed by the agent about the car performance, all facilitices, the customer knowledge of all car options like this one

CHERY PASSENGER CAR SELLING AND DELIVERING CARD
Category No Item Whether check and explain
Vehicle Performance
1 Engine YES ( ) NO ( )
2 Oil, Brake Fluid, Steering Oil, Coolant, Battery Solution YES ( )
NO ( )
3 VIN Code. Engine Number. Nameplate etc. YES ( ) NO ( )
4 Locking System YES ( ) NO ( )
5 Lighting System includes Headlight, Turn Light Lamp, Fog Lamp,
Combination Lamp, Interior Lamp, Brake Lamp, Back-up Lamp, Tail
Lamp, Reading Lamp, Door Monitor, Instrument Lamp YES ( ) NO ( )
6 Windshield Glass and Body Painting Surface YES ( ) NO ( )
7 Speedometer, Tachometer, Odometer YES ( ) NO ( )
8 Wheel Cover, Spare Tire Inside Luggage Compartment, On-vehicle
Tools and Vehicle Operation Instruction, Maintenance & Service
Manual YES ( ) NO ( )
9 Seat belt, Cigarette Lighter, A/C Switch and Air Outlet, Glove
Compartment, Sun Visor YES ( ) NO ( )
10 Window regulator, Rear Mirror, Wiper, Washer, Horn, Radio (CD
Player) and Antenna YES ( ) NO ( )

did they explain and check the car?
or just said alf mabruok drive ur car

i refuelled my car today. here are the figures.

start meter reading:158 kms
end meter reading: 599 kms

fuel: 42.75 litres

which translates to: 9.69 litres/100 km or 10.32 kms/litre.

this was done in 70 to 80 % highway driving (i live in 6 october city, so i drive 70 kms on mehwar everyday.)

i feel this is a disappointing figure. But i still have hope. Some cars only reach their best economy after a couple thousand kms. I hope this is one of them. i wish for 12kms/litre.

Chery's website claims A516 gets 5.2 litre/100km. You must be pushing the gas too hard, using the a/c too much and not shifting enough to the correct gear.

actually the a/c is not working well so i don't use it, and i did my best to drive smooth and shift early. the same way i drive averages 16.5 kms/litre in my QQ.
The car manual actualy says it consumes 7 litres/100 kms on constant 80 km/h speed.

does anybody else own a A516? i'd like to know what other people are getting from theri car.

thnxx mr fmohiy my name is islam alqafas and i am from cairo i had booked a516. but i want to ask u r advising me to buy the a516 or the xplosion is better than this one? nd what is ur voting (../10) and thnxxxxxxxxx

actually the a/c is not working well so i don't use it, and i did my best to drive smooth and shift early. the same way i drive averages 16.5 kms/litre in my QQ.
The car manual actualy says it consumes 7 litres/100 kms on constant 80 km/h speed.

does anybody else own a A516? i'd like to know what other people are getting from theri car.


How much does a Litre of gas cost in Egypt?

92 octane =1.4 EGP/Litre
90 octane= 1.3 EGP/Litre

1 USD = 5.8 EGP

my first full tank on which i made the previous calculations was on 92. i filled now with 90 to see the difference. uptill now no difference in performance.

By the way, the car is really really stable at high speeds(80 to 120). i took curves on this speed in a way that i would have never been able to do in my qq or regata.

i refuelled my car today. here are the figures.

start meter reading:158 kms
end meter reading: 599 kms

fuel: 42.75 litres

which translates to: 9.69 litres/100 km or 10.32 kms/litre.

this was done in 70 to 80 % highway driving (i live in 6 october city, so i drive 70 kms on mehwar everyday.)

i feel this is a disappointing figure. But i still have hope. Some cars only reach their best economy after a couple thousand kms. I hope this is one of them. i wish for 12kms/litre.
Hi, fmohiy

My car A516 did about 12 liters/145 Km that mean it make about 8.3 L/100 Km I think this rate is a good for new Engine I asked a friend of me he has Proton GEN-2 about fuel and told me his car make approximately 9 L/100 Km so I found this rate not bad and let us see the rate again after 20,000 Km for example. ( I got 2700 Km with my car and it work fine just a/c not good enough and I need to adjust the wheel alignment cuz it go right in straight road , lately I heard a whistle near the wheel left and I asked the service center about it they told me this because I need to djust The wheel, any way I feel happy with my new A516. )

92 octane =1.4 EGP/Litre
90 octane= 1.3 EGP/Litre

1 USD = 5.8 EGP

my first full tank on which i made the previous calculations was on 92. i filled now with 90 to see the difference. uptill now no difference in performance.

By the way, the car is really really stable at high speeds(80 to 120). i took curves on this speed in a way that i would have never been able to do in my qq or regata.


1.4EGP/litre about USD $0.25 /litre. That is crazy cheap, if fuel is that cheap why worry about fuel consumption. In China gas is 4.50RMB/litre about USD $0.60/litre.

Hi, fmohiy

My car A516 did about 12 liters/145 Km that mean it make about 8.3 L/100 Km I think this rate is a good for new Engine I asked a friend of me he has Proton GEN-2 about fuel and told me his car make approximately 9 L/100 Km so I found this rate not bad and let us see the rate again after 20,000 Km for example. ( I got 2700 Km with my car and it work fine just a/c not good enough and I need to adjust the wheel alignment cuz it go right in straight road , lately I heard a whistle near the wheel left and I asked the service center about it they told me this because I need to djust The wheel, any way I feel happy with my new A516. )

Are there more Cherys on the road in Egypt or more Protons?

To Besho

how did you measure your fuel consumption? I fill my car to the end and reset the kms counter to zero, then i drive till the refill lamp lights and refill again to the end. i compare the number of litres the car needs in the next refill with the reading of the kms counter to calculate how much litres consumed in how many kms.
also, do you drive more on open roads or in heavy traffic?

could you also write the number of the service center? thanks


To hazik
gas is cheap in egypt because salaries are very little and cars are somewhat expensive. so, if fuel was expensive too no one would drive cars, only rich people would afford driving cars.

the average government emloyee gets a monthly salary of 500 to 1000 EGP
and the smallest car like my QQ cost 45,000 EGP so, a normal employee would have to save half his paycheck for more than 8 years just to get the most basic of chineese cars, that is if he CAN actually afford to save half his paycheck. i myself don't have anything left from my paycheck on the 25th and i have just one5 months old kid AND my wife works to help in the house expenses.

things are bad in egypt and they get worse every year, no wonder chineese cars are getting so popular.

to hazik
in egypt we have

protons: wira,waja,gen-2

chery: a516,a620,a11,s11(qq),a15(very rare)

check the site www.contactcars.com for an almost complete list of cars in egypt and their prices.

To Besho

how did you measure your fuel consumption? I fill my car to the end and reset the kms counter to zero, then i drive till the refill lamp lights and refill again to the end. i compare the number of litres the car needs in the next refill with the reading of the kms counter to calculate how much litres consumed in how many kms.
also, do you drive more on open roads or in heavy traffic?

could you also write the number of the service center? thanks


To hazik
gas is cheap in egypt because salaries are very little and cars are somewhat expensive. so, if fuel was expensive too no one would drive cars, only rich people would afford driving cars.

the average government emloyee gets a monthly salary of 500 to 1000 EGP
and the smallest car like my QQ cost 45,000 EGP so, a normal employee would have to save half his paycheck for more than 8 years just to get the most basic of chineese cars, that is if he CAN actually afford to save half his paycheck. i myself don't have anything left from my paycheck on the 25th and i have just one5 months old kid AND my wife works to help in the house expenses.

things are bad in egypt and they get worse every year, no wonder chineese cars are getting so popular.

Thanks for the info. Can people who can't afford to pay full price for the car get a loan to buy a car. And do you know how much a litre of fuel cost in Saudi Arabia?

goto http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/fmohiy/album?.dir=/99ccre2 for some nice pictures

good photos! Which one is yours? How much did you pay for your A5, 59000EGY D?

goto http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/fmohiy/album?.dir=/99ccre2 for some nice pictures
ur car has no internal head light lamp adjustment botton, not like all car at showrooms
this option was refered at the brochure,is't it?

the pictures posted sre not for my car, these are just some pictures i got from the net. my car has the headlamp adjustment button.

Thanks for the info. Can people who can't afford to pay full price for the car get a loan to buy a car. And do you know how much a litre of fuel cost in Saudi Arabia?
yes they can, but it's a real pain
and there r much more Protons on the streets here, especially Wira since it was only 45,000 LE when it 1st came out

but u have to get the big picture, there r tons of expensiv car in egypt, u wont stand in any street without seeing Mercedice's or BMW's, there r LOTS of them on the streets, the most common cars to see around r the Mitsubishi Lancer, Toyota Corola and the #1 seller in the few past years the Hyundai Matrix

the pictures posted sre not for my car, these are just some pictures i got from the net. my car has the headlamp adjustment button.
i thought that some of pics is urs, yesterday i saw some agent sells A516 for 71000 EGP, the colour is light blue, and it's 2006 model with the analogue a/c, it is the only one

In the past few days, i saw A5'z everywhere.... & a couple of A6's :)

well I was Wondering arround in DownTown Cairo today , I saw 2 Chery A5s ( A516 ) thought I would post the 2 pics here , one was silver/gold and was white , I liked the White more , altho its driver is a complete jerk :P .

excuse the quality or the images , I was shooting within my car ..

http://img288.imageshack.us/img288/8690/12102006lp6.jpg

http://img288.imageshack.us/img288/9044/13102006001ap2.jpg


and not to forget ,, here's a white Geely CK :D was speeding infront of me :
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In the past few days, i saw A5'z everywhere.... & a couple of A6's :)


Maybe one of them was Fmohiy's. At least they are increasing production to meet the demand.

hi everyone i'am medhat a dentist from cairo and i want your honest openion of speranza i live in shorouk city and i make about 100 km per day so do u think that it could hold ? is it durable ? thanks

i also want to thank mr. fmohiy for his wounderful review of the car and i hope he could tell us more about the car i think that he has it for more than 2 months now so he is the man for the job and i thank him in advance

The funny thing is , there's alot of PPL I know who think of SPERANZA as a DIFFRENT brand than chery , many of them even LIKE the whole car just bcuz its not a chery :P

and A FEW of them who even doesnt know that these cars are chinese .

anyways yes I am starting to see more A5s on the road , only a few A6s , but then again If I had the money ( 90,000 EGP - $15800 ) I would rather buy something else other than the A6 , I mean it's huge with lotsa luxury options and a 2.0 L so its basicly the best featured car in its category , but I simply hate the way it looks and I generaly hate SUPER SIZED cars :P .

I would rather get a Proton Gen 2 ( 85,000 EGP - 1.6L ) or a Hatchback Kia Cerato , I prefer the smaller more practical cars :D , maybe its just me , And for ppl who really have the money , And really have the JOY of getting a new brand car , then the Brilliance Galena is totaly cool , 150,000 EGP ( $26,000 )

yes its alot more expensive but it looks like its from this era ! the A6 looks like the 90s cars are back !

but The Galena is putting itself in question here , the only major advantage for a Galena is the 2.0L engine ... but its more expensive to own than a huge list of popular cars that is :
Skoda Octavia A5
Toyota Corrolla
Mazda 3
Peugeot 307
Citroen C4
Honda Civic
and its a bit cheaper than the following :
VW jetta A5
VW Golf A5
Skoda Octavia Elegance

so I really dont think of me passing all these cars just to get the brilliance ! altho I must admit , it looks better and bigger ( LOOKS only , I dunno about the real thing ) than most of them ! and its still the only 2.0L car for that price , this is confusing !!!!

Thanks for the pics! What kind of car are you driving? please take some more if you can, maybe a chery QQ or Geely haoqing.

I am driving a Dark Green 2006 Fiat Palio 1.2L - 85HP - $11,000 ( 68,000 EGP )
Its Brazilian Made .

pics ( not mine ) :
exterior :
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interior :
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its alot easier to take photos of Chery QQs and HQs here , they are seen alot and i do mean alot , especialy the HQ , I hate that car :P , the QQ is nice tho , My girlfriend wishes to replace her OLD Fiat 127 with the " Smiley Car " as she calls it , hell they are seen more than my car :P .

I will try to get more on the run .

I went to the service center on Alex Cairo road yesterday, here is my experience.

The service center is just after the collection gates. You tell them that you are going to the center and you pay 2 pounds and get a white ticket. You will have to pay another 2 pounds when you pass the gates again on your way back.

The service center services speranzas, daewoos and BMWs.
There are a lot of directive signs so you will know were to park and where to go. If you don't already have your warranty book request for it form the receptionist before your request to service your car, but it is not required. The receptionist just asked for my car license, copied its data and returned it. Then I waited for about 25 mins till another person called for my name, asked if I had any trouble with the car. I told him about the weak a/c and fuel consumption. (By the way, my second fill up averaged 11.17 km/liter so things are improving) he took my car keys and told me it will be ready in about 1.5 hrs. After less than one hour that car was ready but it was waiting in line to be washed. I had errands to run so I didn't wash it, it was already clean enough. I paid 306 pounds for the service which according to the bill is about 269 for oil and filter and the rest taxes.

The a/c got much better BUT they cancelled the heater of the car even though I requested that they keep it. (Always try the car before you leave the center, there is enough space for that) I talked with the engineer in charge (called waleed el bagoury) about why they cancelled the heating as I needed it. He was very helpful. He explained to me that all a516 cars have a problem with the a/c. the valve between the heating pipes and cold pipes in the a/c is not working properly so they have to close the heating pipes for the a/c to work fine. He told me this is a temp solution until a shipment of working valves are sent from china and it should arrive before my 5000 service. He also told me that there is a sound in the suspension that I hear in speed bumps that he will fix on the next service (even though I didn't hear anything). It seems that there is something in the suspension that they also replace under warranty for most a516 (EVEN THOUGH I HEARD NOTHING WRONG FROM THE CAR). Anyhow, I got the feeling that they acknowledge any complaint that people tell them about their cars and don't try to weasel out of fixing it. They are committed to their warranty and want the client to have confidence in it which is a very good thing. I actually felt better about buying my car after I talked to him.

After I left the service center and drove for a while, I feel that the car response improved. The car now feels more responsive and lively.

I must say that I love my car, its acceleration is getting better and so is the fuel consumption. The car is very stable on speed up to 140 and I take bends on high speed with confidence.

Alhamdo lellah. Thank GOD.

thanks for ur feed back, u make us confidant of the car,and service centers
now i am really feel good that i choosed a good car, although i didn't get my car untill now
i want to ask if they remove the heating facility from the a/c only or from the rear glass, and mirrors too?
thanks
Rabena yebareklak feeha

they just closed the a/c hot air pipes. this does not affect anything else in the car.

my 3rd refill averaged 11.23 kms/litre. i used A/C a little bit.

great reviews fmohiy!:thumb:

my 3rd refill averaged 11.23 kms/litre. i used A/C a little bit.


How much is you QQ getting? about 20km/litre?

over a period of 6 months and 10,000 kms, the QQ Ezdrive averaged 16.5 kms/litre. the best was 19.5kms/litre (only one refill at the 1st 1000 kms got this number) and the worst was 15 kms/litre (mostly traffic driving with a/c on)

i believe that the qq is a great small car and makes perfect sense as a second car for city driving.

concerning the A6 ,i share with you that no one has an openion on this model and maybe that means that it has a good performance or no one from those who recived their cars know about this forum:confused: :confused: ,so anyway anyone who rcvd this model pls share us with any notes about the car or its performance such as what happened for the A5 (great and many thanks for the ppl shared their experience with this model)

thanks and HAPPY EID FITR MUBARAK:lol: :lol:

has someone exceeds 1000 km by now by his speranza ?could he tell us how is the car going so far ? thanks

i've done 2000 kms uptill now, what do you need to know?

;) hi friend ,when u went to the sevice center, how they dealed with u, and they took cost or not for 1000 km service , thank inadvance