These are spyshots of the replacement for the Flyer, according to the report in Autohome. The reporter noticed the similarity between it and the Toyota Vitz / Yaris.

The new BYD...
http://s2.mojalbum.com/kitajci-18-foto_4219952_17405620_18163045.jpg
http://img.autohome.com.cn/2007/5/16/16-8-54-44-56864101.jpg
http://s2.mojalbum.com/kitajci-18-foto_4219952_17405620_18163046.jpg
http://img.autohome.com.cn/2007/5/16/16-8-54-55-614155841.jpg

The Vitz / Yaris...
http://s2.mojalbum.com/kitajci-18-foto_4219952_17405620_18163047.jpg
http://img.autohome.com.cn/upload/spec/384/w_384504507116.jpg

You're wrong. It's a clone of the European Toyota aygo.

http://s2.mojalbum.com/kitajci-18-foto_4219952_17405620_18163046.jpg
http://www.autoweek.nl/images/800/f/2a41af7404d7aa99fbd6ff6cb53291bf.jpg

These are spyshots of the replacement for the Flyer, according to the report in Autohome. The reporter noticed the similarity between it and the Toyota Vitz / Yaris.

The new BYD...
http://img.autohome.com.cn/2007/5/16/16-8-54-44-56864101.jpg



Whats more disturbing is the Cadillac STS parked in the background, are they gonna copy that too? I'm getting fed up with this copying bullshit. BYD must die!

BYD Xerox!!!!

if it is disterbing when a three year old car company is copying, how disturbing it is if the entire auto industry is copying one another?

http://www.mychery.net/forum/html/ut/attach/2007/05/16/10429086-05-silver-f3q-s-embed.jpg
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http://www.mychery.net/forum/html/ut/attach/2007/05/16/10429343-U1478P33T2D274973F2019DT20070515101059-embed.jpg

http://www.mychery.net/forum/html/ut/attach/2007/05/16/10429346-U1478P33T2D274973F2020DT20070515101059-embed.jpg

i believe you can find much more cars that looks like that.
BYD is no more copycat than the rest of established auto industry are copycats.

@ cover: it is not hard to see that this is a Toyota aygo-clone!
The Citroën C1 and Peugeot 107 are sisters of the Toyota aygo and the new Opel Agila and Suzuki Splash don't look like that.
It's just a copycat and nothing more.

The thing is that the Aygo, the Peugeot and citroen Sisters, are an agreed partnership between Toyota and PSA. The Opel and the Suzuki minicars are also a partnership. The BYD copy of the Toyota aygo is that, Just a Copy, and unauthorized copy. Toyota Should sue them :mad:

@ cover: it is not hard to see that this is a Toyota aygo-clone!
The Citroën C1 and Peugeot 107 are sisters of the Toyota aygo and the new Opel Agila and Suzuki Splash don't look like that.
It's just a copycat and nothing more.

that is your personal judgment. you have made a judgment(or endorsed) that F6 rear is a copy of Accrod, go back and look again, if you see similarity b/w F6 rear and Accrod rear, but no similarity in these small cars, that means whatever you said, reflect your own stat of the mind, reflect little of what BYD is doing.

The thing is that the Aygo, the Peugeot and citroen Sisters, are an agreed partnership between Toyota and PSA. The Opel and the Suzuki minicars are also a partnership. The BYD copy of the Toyota aygo is that, Just a Copy, and unauthorized copy. Toyota Should sue them :mad:

then how do you explain the similarity b/w these two group of cars?
BYD has not been original in styling. agreed. and there are sign of imitation. but there are imitations all over the place in the industry, for far more established players. the closeness of imitation is more than average, but by no means break the normal. there are almost 1000 cars of all kinds designed every year, and if you wanted to find similar design, you can find lots of them, b/w far more established players.

toyata dare not to sue anyone without reflect on its own history. it has grow up now, many consumer has forget the early history, but if you trying to make any accusation, averthing you did in the past will have to subject to the same level of scrutiny as harshly as the been accused.

And even if they DID sue BYD , Why would they be doing so ?
Toyota is now the No.1 Car Producer world wide , Sueing a no. 32193291839281 chineese Company for making a copy/clone or even a LOOK ALIKE from of Thier Aygo/Yaris/Echo , for what ?

They would want to make it a group lawsuit .. including GWM / BYD , but what would they get out of it ? They will end up spending more money on law firms than getting any of these small come & go companies .

I am totally against copying , Don't get me wrong , but when it comes to small cars .. If its cheap , it will do ... copied / styled / looks like ... I don't really care , unless its a death box, which in most of the cases ( Chery QQ case ) isn't really that much awfull than its original car ( Matiz ) .

edit :

And in the Defence of BYD , the BYD F3 Sedane , which looks like a Toyota Corolla from the front / City from the back, is not by any means a clone , a Look alike ? Sure , Look at Hyundai .. but it has totally diffrent dimensions and powertrains bla bla , and the funny thing that the engine is a LICENSED TOYOTA TECHNOLOGY :P , so no sues here

Same issue for the F3 Hatchback , it looks like an Optra hatchback ( Lacetti ) but again it only looks like not a realy mechanical copy like the case of Chery / Chevy .

Again the BYD Flyer is not a copy , I believe its based on a Very Old Suzuki Alto generation , modified of course .

The BYD f6 which used TO LOOK LIKE a BMW in the concept , now is totally a diffrent car .

EVEN The BYD F8 which PPL could swear its a mercedes if It had no BYD LOGO on , still ONLY LOOKS LIKE , NO company on earth can SUE another company for making LOOKING ALIKES , unless its a mechanical replica or uses Stolen technology from the other company .

End of Story .

Toyota will not sue them because they will loose the case anyway, and because the Chinese government won't be too happy if Toyota sues a Chinese company. Toyota is in a big jv with FAW, one of China's state owned car companies.

www.thetycho.com (http://www.thetycho.com)

Byd-F1=toyota Aygo

The substitute of the BYD Flyer is going to be a copy of TOYOTA AYGO, Citroën C1 and of Peugeot 107. The motors of 0,8 and 1,1 of gasoline of Chinese origin.

More images.

Isn't it finaly time, that Chinese stop openly copying European and Japanese cars. :nono:

Shame on BYD :(

Come on Chinese makers join forces with your foes and produce a pure engineered Chinese car and share the costs (rebadging that way is ok) ;)

By the sight it does not go to make the only mark Chinese that copies of TOYOTA AYGO, CITROËN C1 and PEUGEOT 107.

The Lifan mark already has thought for July of the 2009 other copy of this model. :nono:
http://img.autohome.com.cn/2007/5/30/30-9-47-1-168145608.jpg

http://img.autohome.com.cn/2007/5/30/30-9-47-3-815944527.jpg

http://www.chinacarforums.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=943&d=1187265430
If you have not paid attention, the lights and the mechanical ones are of the BYD Flyer.

According to China Car Times, F1 is going to be worlds cheapest car with a price of 23,000rmb (2,142.82 EUR)!

BYD really are going to mass produce the worlds cheapest automobile and bring cheap motoring to the masses in China, previously the BYD F1 price tag was 30,000rmb but now it seems that figure has been changed down to a mere 23,000rmb.

Previously, the record was held by the Binzhou automotive group, but seeing as they are not mass produced, we can forget about them. The cheapest 800cc QQ3 is 27,000rmb, Ben Ben, Hafei Sai Bao, Suzuki WagonR’s, Little Nobels etc are all 30,000rmb and up.

While we’re not entirely sure what the BYD will be running under the hood, or what it will be made of, we’re quite excited (or worried) to see that Chinese manufacturers are pushing the boundries on the car pricing, the BYD is a smidgen over 3000USD. China Car Times previously got up close and personal with little Nobel and noted the interior quality, was not the greatest. What will the BYD F1 be like? Generally, the BYD range of cars are quite well made, but at 3,000USD what is this going to be like?

BYD make a profit on this, the government gets a cut on it, the logistics co will want a cut for sending it to the dealer, the dealer will also want a cut for selling it and supporting it, so just how much does it cost for BYD to make this car, $2000USD? Guesses in the comment box.

http://www.chinacarforums.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=943&d=1187265430
If you have not paid attention, the lights and the mechanical ones are of the BYD Flyer.

So apart from the lights, are there any other parts that look like BYD flyer ?

But how come the headlight of Lifan that you show in that link does not look like the headlight of lifan in the big pictures that you provided ?

And btw I kinda did not understand what you said, can you please summarise it or rephrase it please.

You mean BYD copies Lifan's future model or Lifan's future model copies BYD ?

Despite it looking near identical as the Aygo the BYD F1 is still a good looking city car. Its also set to be the worlds cheapest car from what China Car Times reported.

dont think thats true, whats the price it will go for in USD?

According to China Car Times it will be priced around $3000USD.

BYD has finally launched the F1 city car, better known as the Toyota aygo-clone.

http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j3/daewoo-chevrolet/u_341657168772.jpg
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Oh dear :nono:

Byd will not be a major player anytime soon unless they stop copying and start to innovate.

For comparison, Toyota Aygo:
http://s2.mojalbum.com/kitajci-9-foto_4219952_17373662_17478266.jpg
http://s2.mojalbum.com/kitajci-9-foto_4219952_17373662_17478265.jpg

And one more picture of F1:
http://s2.mojalbum.com/kitajci-18-foto_4219952_17405620_18163050.jpg
http://img.autohome.com.cn/2007/11/7/7-11-40-5-31097672.jpg

Byd put copy to the next level: their preview pictures are actually photoshoped pictures of an Aygo!

Talking of innovation, BYD is the "pioneer" with their BYD Faygo

lol

I think BYD should just focus on eletric vehicles as they promise, that would help them more than this Faygo

Why BYD did so?

Under 3000 USD, oh, I am a bit worried about BYD's product strategy although BYD-F3 is a hot word those months in China.

http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j3/daewoo-chevrolet/car-19-12-8-7-405684925.jpg
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Source: Autohome.com.cn

Hey

They changed the logo colour as well ?

http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j3/daewoo-chevrolet/car-19-11-25-31-443853324.jpg

Source: Autohome.com.cn

:nono:



Even in the interior, it is clear that is a copy of the Toyota Aygo.

http://www.portalcoches.net/www/images/contenidos/revista/reportajes/toyota_Aygo/toyota_Aygo_interior.jpg

Oh dear :nono:

Byd will not be a major player anytime soon unless they stop copying and start to innovate.

You are right Raul, Biyadi is really jeopardizing its chances of being taken seriously. Perhaps the recent rise in F-3 sedan sales has gone to its head. Instead of a "monkey see monkey do" approach, it should be taking advantage of its unique strength in the area of battery and EV development. That's what could earn it respect in the global marketplace.

Once again though, my guess here is that Toyota will not want to make waves about this shameless example of copying. And they will let it go so as to not draw unnecessary attention in China.

BYD, Hello,
In an age of dreams about clean green cars, even a shoe box, or a clam shell, on wheels can be successful.

More pics:

http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j3/daewoo-chevrolet/img_0602_mthumb.jpg
http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j3/daewoo-chevrolet/img_0603_mthumb.jpg
http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j3/daewoo-chevrolet/img_0604_mthumb.jpg

http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j3/daewoo-chevrolet/img_1909_mthumb.jpg
http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j3/daewoo-chevrolet/img_1910_mthumb.jpg
http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j3/daewoo-chevrolet/img_1912_mthumb.jpg
http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j3/daewoo-chevrolet/img_1911_mthumb.jpg

Source: www.pcauto.com.cn

@ tiji2005.

Can you please stop using bad language. People here are having a discussion, I agree that some people here do talk bad of Chinese made cars, but sometimes what they said is kinda true. It is the fault of Chinese carmakers at the first place, if they don't copy other cars then people won't have anything to say. I believe that when the Chinese carmakers can make cars that up to the standards of other well known carmakers then these bad talks will cool off. Well in the end of the day, the Chinese makers brought this upon themselves with the low quality and unauthentic designs, but on the other hand, we need to realise that they are in the learning phase, most private Chinese carmakers are really young like Brilliance, Chery, Geely...etc... so they are susceptible to mistakes. There are people here who want to help pointing out the flaws of Chinese carmakers and make them better. So I hope you understand that this forum is for constructive discussion, even if someone is being nasty, you don't have to reply in a nastier way.

People can say whatever they want to say, only time can tell and it also depends on the will of Chinese manufacturers too.

if it is disterbing when a three year old car company is copying, how disturbing it is if the entire auto industry is copying one another?


there is a difference between having a car in the same class, and directly copying an existing model! :nod:

SHENZHEN, Dec 06, 2007 (SinoCast via COMTEX) -- BYDDF | charts | news | PowerRating -- BYD Auto Co., Ltd., an arm of BYD Co., Ltd. (SEHK: 1211), will launch BYD F1 in the first quarter of 2008.

BYD F1, which debuted at an international auto exhibition in Guangzhou, South China, in the form of concept car, in November 2007, is a A00-grade mini car model built by thousands of engineers of the automaker's R&D center in Shanghai in three years

The new car model, with stylish appearance, is powered by all-new power train system BYD371QA with a 1.0L displacement and a 100-kilometer-fuel-consumption of less than 4.2 liters on an even speed of 90 kilometers per hour. It can reach a speed as high as 150 kilometers per hour.

Its engine, based on UAES's electronic-control fuel-injection system, has reached the Euro IV emission standards. High-strength steel plate, world-class safety clashing technologies as well as dual SRS airbags and Delphi's ABS and EBD system make the car outstanding in safety.

http://s2.mojalbum.com/kitajci-3-foto_4219952_10796317_11314671.jpg
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For those that are interested, I found this link for the F1 on the BYD website IN ENGLISH! A few more pics AND a specs page........check it out. ALSO, elsewhere on the website (in the news section), I read that BYD is planning on officially introducing the F1 in April (I assume the Beijing auto show) and going on sale soon after that. A few things I noticed in the interior pic -

No locking glove box (but there IS a passenger airbag)
Manually adjustable mirrors (cost cutting decision I assume)

I ALSO noticed that in the specs page, the fuel tank is only 30l (about 7.5 US gallons) in size......but it DOES get 4.2l per 100km in fuel economy - which still gives you up to 700km on a single tank of gas (mighty impressive if true). Anyway, here is the link -


http://www.byd.com/f1/f1exterior.asp?show=f1&color=b

A few pictures more:
http://www.thetycho.com/galleries/byd_f1_3.jpg
http://www.thetycho.com/galleries/byd_f1_4.jpg
http://www.thetycho.com/galleries/byd_f1_5.jpg
http://www.thetycho.com/galleries/byd_f1_8.jpg

www.thetycho.com (http://www.thetycho.com)

Specifications (in Chinese):
http://www.autohome.com.cn/news/200804/36854.html

Live @ Beijing:

http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j3/daewoo-chevrolet/646150_DSC_6948.jpg

http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j3/daewoo-chevrolet/646150_DSC_6952.jpg

http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j3/daewoo-chevrolet/646150_DSC_6950.jpg

Source: http://www.pcauto.com.cn/

BYD F1 unveiled at Beijing auto show.

April 25, 2008 - BYD unveiled its new mini-car model F1 at the Beijing auto show. Dubbed the 'Chinese MINI,' BYD FI is designed as the cheapest Chinese-made car, to be priced between 30,000 yuan ($4,290) and 40,000 yuan when it hits the market after its Beijing debut.

A self-developed model by the Chinese carmaker as BYD general manager claimed, BYD F1 is equipped with the eco-friendly BYD371QA engine. It is a 1.0 L three-cylinder 12-valve SOHC engine which has the max output of 50kW/6,000rpm and a max torque of 90nm.

Many people have noticed that the front ends of both the Toyota Aygo and the BYD F1 look remarkably similar, and the F1's dashboards instrument panel also has a similar design to the Aygo, but BYD has denied the cloning accusations.

The F1 measures 3,460 (L) x 1,618 (W) x 1,465mm (H) and weighs 870kg. The wheelbase is 2,340mm. The front and rear treads are 1,420 and 1,410mm long, respectively.

The BYD DM (Dual Mode) technology incorporates pure electric driving system and hybrid electric driving system. The DM hybrid system integrates advanced generator and motor controlling technology. It realizes multiple energy supply via both recharging and refueling, which is a real dual mode hybrid system.

http://www.gasgoo.com/resource/editor/byd%20F1.jpg

source: Gasgoo.com

Article about F1 from China Car Times.

The BYD F1 splashed onto the internet with a rather large fan fare - possibly a contender for the worlds cheapest car title, and with good looks to boot. As more information about the F1 leaked out, it seemed that the F1 wouldnt be as cheap as it was supposed to be, but it was still cheap.

The BYD F1 is expected to be priced in the high 20,000rmb range to 40,000rmb range, however, no final price has been set from BYD as far we are aware.
We had a chance to get up close and reasonably personal with the F1 at the recent Qingdao Auto Show where the F1 was proudly on display at the BYD stand. From looks alone, the F1 is pretty similar to the Toyota Aygo, although BYD say they own design patents for the car.

The dashboard of the Aygo and the BYD F1 are very similar. Compare the speedo and RPM pods with the Toyota Aygos, the overall design elements are very similar, including the heating vents.

The overall quality of the interior was reasonable, although the top right picture shows a healthy gap between the dashboard sections. Overall, the quality of this presumebly pre-production model from BYD was actually quite good. The only critisism we have of the F1’s quality would be what felt (and looked) like two different types of plastic had been employed to make different sections of the dash, which made it look like a patchwork quilt dash! The seats were comfortable, and we quite liked the ‘poverty spec’ simplicity of it, its a car in the truest sense - it has 4 wheels, an engine, and not much else! If you want to adjust the window you have to use a piece of equipment known only to a few as a ‘hand winder‘ to open the windows, the same is said for the rear view mirrors, those too, are ‘hand operated’ shocking! Simply shocking, but excellent at the same time, its a back to basic car, after all!

In many respects, the BYD F1 reminds us of the base spec Renault Clios and the Twingos of the mid 90’s that were used as hire cars along the Mediterrainian strip - they were budget cars, rented to tourists, that were expected to take a battering from careless drivers and the elements. We think the BYD would excel itself in a similar situation, hot summers, sticky situations, tough traffic - sounds just like any east coast Chinese city in June.

Despite the F1 taking a lot of style from the Aygo, we think it will still be popular with young Chinese consumers who want to have a cheap, economical car, that is both fashionable and trendy without pilling dollars onto the base price.

Would we have one for driving around the city center? Oh yes, we would.


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BYD F1 to sell re-named as BYD F0 in September.

July 14, 2008 - BYD Auto Co., Ltd., will launch an A00-grade mini car model F1 in September this year, but the car name will be changed to BYD F0 by then in order to avoid the potential label conflict, reports Beijing News today.

The F1, produced in BYD’s new plant in Shenzhen, will go on sale this September or October, sources said. Once launched to the market, the model will use the name "F0" instead of F1 to avoid potential label conflict, as "F1" has been registered by Formula One Group, said sources familiar with the matter.

F1 is also planning to target global markets besides domestic market, so giving up the "F1" name is sensible for avoiding possible conflicts in markets home and abroad, BYD sources told reporters.

BYD Auto announced recently that F1, now the renamed BYD F0, with selling price at between 45,800 yuan ($6,710) and 55,800 yuan, can be ordered now at BYD dealerships.

source: Gasgoo.com

that's aprox.3'355 GBP!!! bargin!!but the quality....probably poor

Byd F0:
http://s2.mojalbum.com/kitajci-4-foto_4219952_11803055_13007616.jpg

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more:
http://car.autohome.com.cn/pic/series/579.html
http://car.autohome.com.cn/pic/series-s3833/579.html?pvareaid=100496
http://product.xgo.com.cn/pic_list/3593/
http://che168.car.autohome.com.cn/pic/series_1096.htm

BYD F0:
http://www.autohome.com.cn/advice/200808/43268-1.html

It seems that the FIA has more power in China then Toyota!

Byd aren't affraid of anybody but Bernie Ecclestone. The guy must have really close ties with chinese official.

http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j3/daewoo-chevrolet/u_3416650727450.jpg

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Source: www.autohome.com.cn

Well the interior looks decent enough, better than most of other Chinese makers.

Of course interior looks nice if it was inspired by small Toyota's (Yaris and Aygo). Little originality here.

Byd F0 at 2008 Moscow Auto Show.
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Byd presented during the Moscow Auto Show new very car very important for the growth of the brand in the old continent and especially in Russia: The F0. Formerly known as F1, to avoid having problems with the Formula 1, BYD has had to change the name of the car.

In Russia the F0 will be available from next autumn and although the price has not been communicated, we already know that it will become one of the models more accessible to non-national brands on the market. It is rumoured that the price could reach the 200,000 roubles, which comes to be at current rates, about € 5,500 / 8,145 dollars.

As for the engine, employs a small block of a litre of petrol Cubic capacity that develops an output of 68 hp more than enough to move 870 kilograms with agility. The average consumption is around 4 l/100 and unlike in other products from rival brands, will have no automatic transmission for the time being.

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BYD F0 goes on sale today from 45,800 yuan

September 02, 2008


Shanghai, September 2 (Gasgoo.com) BYD Auto's F0 goes on sale in the home market this morning, priced from 45,800 yuan ($6,711) to 55,800 yuan depending on different specifications, a Xinhua report said.

"BYD absorb the pressure rising from high material costs on itself and the low starting price shows BYD's good commitment to consumers,” said Xia Zhibing, general manager of BYD Auto Sales Co. He added that the car makes less than 1,000 yuan in average profit per vehicle.

F0 is powered by a 1.0L engine generating 50 kW of power and 90 Nm of torque. A five-speed manual transmission is also standard.

BYD said it has spent five years on its small car product program. The F0 was previously named as "F1" but was thereafter changed into F0 to avoid possible label conflict with Formula One Group.

In the first half of this year the company sold 72,357 vehicles, a year-on-year increase of 94%. It plans to double its sales, setting its target for 2008 at 200,000 units, and 400,000 units for 2009.

5 years time spent on small cars and the fact that BYD is absorbing higher material costs is impressive for forward sales for them. But it also ought to make a good impression right now on those in the domestic market, for they are witnessing a commitment to them from BYD for a good start.

Lower grade with plastic wheel covers and no fog ligts:
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F0 with sport accessories:
http://s2.mojalbum.com/kitajci-5-foto_4219952_13082292_13503454.jpg


Many pics and other information about little Chinese at:
http://www.autohome.com.cn/market/200809/45447.html

BYD F0 sports:

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looks realy fine...is it on sale in china??

wow a hybrid between HONDA FIT and TOYOTA YARIS!

Better, it seems more Toyota Aygo/Citroen C1 and Peugeot 107...

Toyota Aygo
http://www.auto-sep.com/2008/Marzo/images/aygo%20griffe1.jpg
http://static.blogo.it/autoblog/toyota_aygo_back.jpg

Citroen C1
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/2/22/Citroen_C1.JPG/800px-Citroen_C1.JPG

Peugeot 107
http://foto.autozone.be/fotoseurotax/450/peugeot-107-diesel-5031.jpg

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Gilby

It seems very cute!

It is not the only brand that china copy of the Toyota Aygo.

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_XEEIzU0UA1M/SPdX6LtL60I/AAAAAAAALGE/ejIlI8nrKIA/s400/01.jpg

GEELY PANDA

Yeah i already saw that car.

Uh............the Panda is not really a copy. Similarities? Yes, but that's it. Have you seen the F0 or the Panda in person? I have - the Panda has a completely different front, different style tail lamps in the rear, the interior is not even close...........give Geely some credit. Now, the F0 IS a clone of the Aygo, no doubt about that - but the Panda is trying to carve it's own niche.....and the upcoming Panda crossover is actually a cool little car!!

Why can't I see it in Moscow?

i'm kinda curious how well this crashes

if they are smart they copied the 4 star rating the Aygo gets

i also wonder how successful this is because i suppose you can only sell it where toyota isn't represented

Uh........................Toyota is VERY well represented in China. Toyota has chosen to not sell the Aygo in China (for whatever reason), so their smallest car here is the Yaris. I'm VERY surprised actually, that Toyota has not taken any legal action (that I know of) regarding the F0 and F3, as well as the Great Wall Florid and Coolbear (Scion clones). Back to the F0..............I'm not very impressed with it. Outside, it looks great..........but once you open the door and sit inside you see where BYD cut corners to save money and keep the car cheap to buy. For the same price, you can get a Geely Panda that is MUCH better on the inside, better quality overall (in my opinion) and the upcoming Panda crossover looks fantastic!

the Aygo is made in Czech Republic for Toyota Citroen Peugeot

the fashion these days seems to be for Jap/Koreans to build one kind of car in Europe for Europeans and another type for Asia/American/Oceania

going by the pictures on this thread and the pictures of the Aygo they look similiar is quality too so from my perspective BYD have copied everything very well

I'm expecting the deficiencies are also evident in the Toyota original.

I'd like to see one for myself but the reality is I doubt Toyota or BYD will ever sell this car where I am.

I don't mind the Panda Crossover but only by those pictures on the thread. Not much else info available.

Well...............marketing trends in the past did tend to gravitate towards one design in one area and another design in another - due mainly to the different driving styles of different areas. America has a different driving style than other areas because of it's many wide open spaces and america's love (traditionally) for big cars and big engines. Europe (and many parts of Asia) prefers smaller, more fuel efficient cars overall, and with China in particular the government here is strongly promoting the sales of compact and subcompact cars. Because of rising oil prices and the awareness of global warming, marketing trends are becoming more unified world-wide. America, for example will start getting the ultra small cars that Europe and Asia has enjoyed for awhile now, and more and more new models are becoming "world" cars (Chevy's Aveo debuted in China, but is sold all over the world - including America). The Aygo is another example.......built in the Czech republic, but available in Europe. I could easily see the Aygo ending up in the USA in the near future - a perfect commute car for busy american cities. Now, the BYD F0? In Europe or America? I HIGHLY doubt it. Since the Aygo (or it's sister models the Citroen C1 and Peugeot 107) is not sold in China, I think Toyota is simply "taking the high road" and avoiding a legal hassle here in the courts. However, if the F0 were to attempt to enter the european (or american) market I think Toyota would stand up and say "Uh.....I don't think so." Besides, it would never sell - the Aygo is typical Toyota quality and durability (and damn stylish for what it is), whereas the F0 is a cheap copy - cute on the outside, dreary on the inside. Interior parts do not fit well together, the seats are uncomfortable, it just FEELS cheap. I expected it to be better - the BYD F3 is much better in terms of quality and I had expected the F0 to follow that trend.

TonyJZX, I'm curious - what chinese (if any) cars ARE available in your area of the world? I'm lucky - I live in China so I have the chance to actually see, touch and drive many of the cars that we discuss here on the forums! One of my next cars on the list (of cars to test drive) is the Panda.....I've seen them on the street but I've not been to the showroom yet to get up close and personal. I'll take some pics, and THEN we can really discuss how it stacks up against the F0.

there are no chinese cars where i am

we will maybe see the GWM Sailor and other cheap trucks soon

to give you a perspective, i drive a 4.0 litre turbocharged dohc 24v straight six sedan... 1,750kg, 300kW, 550Nm

my other car is a 2.6 litre turbocharged 24v straight six coupe... 1,380kg, 250kW, 450Nm

both drink petrol like you wouldn't believe but even so, i have a keen interest in small cars that are efficiently designed, even like the Nano, the Suzuki Altos, Hyundai i10s and Kia Fortes.

I appreciate the detailed pictures of the chinese cars here because there's no way i'd get to see them otherwise.

The BYD F0 is by now one of the most popular cars in chinas capital cities because of the very good price as well as the better quality compared with cars like the original QQ geberation 1 till 3.
The 1.0 liter engine is stable and reacts fast.It is completly based on an older Suzuki engine.The interior is at least 2 levels higher then the QQ's.
It is a perfect city car for chinese customers.Travelling with cars is not such a big factor for chinese in general because of speed limits as well as different regulations for cars in different provinces.BYD expects to overraise the sales of the QQ's within the capital cities of china within 2 years.
The breaks of the BYD F0 are also much better as well as the material quality inside and outside.
In my and most of the chinese opinions - the BYD F0 is a close to be perfect city car for young chinese couple and singles livin within the capital cities of china. Even parking is china is much cheaper as long as you have a car with a lower machine then 1.8 liter.
0.8 -1.6 l 200 rmb per month
1.8 -2.0 300 rmb per month
2.5 -open 350 till 650 rmb per month;)

very noisy, but dashboard good

Is BYD F0 facelift already underway?
http://www.che168.com/article/html/200912/20091225/20091225_271671_1.html


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Car on previous pictures is obviously not BYD F0 but rather vehicle developed by students of the Tongyi University based on it.

http://news.xgo.com.cn/4/48225.html

Recently, a site of "BYD F0 facelift spy photos" of mine who is, of course. In the sound of an alarm that many discerning eye spray helpless laughter. This obviously is the manufacturer of another cottage, but already wrongly tagged into a small egg BYD facelift.
So in the end what this car is a car? Yes, this is back in the 2007 Shanghai Auto Show when the launch of Shanghai Tongji University, one of two concept cars Fernand Leger.
How kind, is now being considered to understand the so-called F0 change how the matter of the bar section. Here I must mention, Tongji design company with the Czech Republic. Numerous car in close cooperation with enterprises. Tongji University has designed a series of the same level models are very similar to each other. This is the domestic level a number of fans familiar with the Italian Pininfarina automobile design platform, the film is very similar to many of the "domestic XX God car" practice.
Tongji University on a number of auto manufacturers and domestic topic of a lot of very mixed model design, where the first left a preamble. Gradually after the bar to talk about. But added that words really need to say. No cottage, only the cottage is more than the cottage.


http://img.xgo-img.com.cn/262_500x375/261571.jpg

The green car shown on the last photo is the TJ Innova Lesuccess, a concept exhibited at the Shanghai Auto Show 2007.
TJ innova is an important Chinese design studio which designed all the clones for BYD. The Lesuccess is completely different from the Aygo-copy shown above, except for the front end. Note that there are at least three cars, a design studio doesn't make three concepts of the same car.
Three possibilities:
1. yes, it is an update of the BYD F0
2. it is the expected Aygo-copy of Lifan (Lifan 120??), also designed by TJ Innova. (TJ Innova also designed the Lifan 520).
3. its is an Aygo copy of a yet unknown other Chinese manufacturer (that would be copy number 6!)
Happy Newyear!

@ erik: Copy number 6? The BYD F0, Geely Panda, Lifan "520", which are the other three? Are the Jianghuai YueYue (or whatever it's called) and ChangAn BenBen Mini also copies of the Toyota Aygo/Citroën C1/Peugeot 107? Especially the ChangAn differs in a lot of ways from the outside from the outside.

Hello Rosmalen, last week I spend some days in Eindhoven!
OK, serious now: 5 cars using "the Aygo platform and body technology" is a better way to say it. These five cars are: BYD F0, Lifan (120?, still to come), Chang'an Benben Mini, Geely (Gleagle) Xiongmao (Panda), JAC (Jianghuai) Yueyue.
Greetings!

typo: it must be spent and not spend. sorry.

Other question, what do you think of the logo on the steering wheel? Never seen such logo before.

BYD priced F0 for 2011:
http://news.bitauto.com/shangshi/20110328/1405324550.html


F0 1.0:
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more pics at:
http://pic.auto.163.com/autopic/ckindex/topicid=297F0008,setid=0.html#top
http://pic.auto.163.com/autopic/ckindex/topicid=297F0008,setid=136625.html#top

F0 with revamped interior:

http://m4.auto.itc.cn/car/1200/71/91/Img1439171_1200.jpg

http://m2.auto.itc.cn/car/1200/69/91/Img1439169_1200.jpg

Source: http://auto.sohu.com/20120428/n341869571.shtml

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http://car.autohome.com.cn/photo/12837/3/1536552.html

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