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martin_krpan
05-21-2009, 01:34 PM
Great Wall is testing production version of i7 concept from 2007:
http://auto.sohu.com/20090521/n264073234.shtml

It seems final version will be even more similar to Toyota Yaris than the concept was.

http://s2.mojalbum.com/kitajci-7-foto_4219952_15407128_15825282.jpg
http://s2.mojalbum.com/kitajci-7-foto_4219952_15407128_15825285.jpg


i7 prototype:
http://s2.mojalbum.com/kitajci-7-foto_4219952_15407128_15825279.jpg
http://s2.mojalbum.com/kitajci-7-foto_4219952_15407128_15825276.jpg

tdi
05-22-2009, 04:55 AM
Hi Martin, acording to GWM this model is called CH031 (just a development name)
is expeted to be lauunched in november 2009 (lhd version) with 1.3 and 1.5 engines. They also expect to get abover 4 stars with the e-ncap. so far the fob price expected is 7.000/9.800 usd

martin_krpan
05-22-2009, 09:35 AM
Thanks for additional information tdi :thumb:

martin_krpan
06-15-2009, 10:13 AM
More pictures from China Car Times.

http://s2.mojalbum.com/kitajci-7-foto_4219952_15407128_16066469.jpg
http://s2.mojalbum.com/kitajci-7-foto_4219952_15407128_16066466.jpg
http://s2.mojalbum.com/kitajci-7-foto_4219952_15407128_16066457.jpg
http://s2.mojalbum.com/kitajci-7-foto_4219952_15407128_16066460.jpg

martin_krpan
06-15-2009, 10:15 AM
http://s2.mojalbum.com/kitajci-7-foto_4219952_15407128_16066463.jpg
http://s2.mojalbum.com/kitajci-7-foto_4219952_15407128_16066454.jpg
http://s2.mojalbum.com/kitajci-7-foto_4219952_15407128_16066448.jpg
http://s2.mojalbum.com/kitajci-7-foto_4219952_15407128_16066451.jpg

micodelija
06-15-2009, 01:55 PM
it's good that GWM change the interior a little bit, i saw this car live and sit in it, old model which was presented couple of year ago have the same interior like toyota yaris, also now when i look at grill and interior don't look similar to toyota, however they shoud change the rear part also a little

KiwiGuy
06-16-2009, 04:21 AM
I think it is good for Great Wall to branch out. Changfeng, Chery and Geely all make, or are going to make SUV's alongside cars so I don't see what all the fuss is about.
I agree with micodelija. They should indeed change the rear of the i7.

TonyJZX
06-16-2009, 06:14 AM
the rear end looks fine to me

looks a bit toyota/bmw/hyundai but the nose is horrible - clearly it's a Chevy Cruze copy

otherwise it sounds and looks positive inside

dragin
06-16-2009, 09:45 AM
I really like the grille on the concept version. It's unique. But I agree with Tony that the latest grille looks crude and leaves a lot to be desired.

micodelija
06-16-2009, 11:02 AM
the rear end looks fine to me

looks a bit toyota/bmw/hyundai but the nose is horrible - clearly it's a Chevy Cruze copy

otherwise it sounds and looks positive inside

how can be a copy of chevy cruze??? gwm present this model at the end of 2007 year, and chevy cruze in that year wasn't in any plans and GM didn't make any presentation of it

TonyJZX
06-16-2009, 01:56 PM
the spy shots of the cruze have been out for a very very long time

would you rather believe that the cruze copied this?

micodelija
06-16-2009, 05:49 PM
no, i belive that this car is original, because we all know what copy means, you can say that it's copy if some products is 100% identical to another, all other is similar...but many cars are similiar to each other, you have many small chinese brands like gonow, xinkai, dadi which made indentical outside copy of toyota land crusier or prado, whatever, but to compare i7 and cruze as a somekind of copy...don't have sence to me :confused: ,it's complety different car segment

you can't put the hood and grill from cruze to gwi7 right? also cruze is much bigger car, i have chance to drive a new cruze and to see live this i7 concept, i sit in him but didn't have chance to drive it, first of all cruze by my opinion is poor car, it's cheaper made opel insignia and the biggest problem is that car is very...but i mean VERY VERY uncomfortable,also we all know that this car is made on daewoo base but GM say that it platform is for new opel astra, if new astra will have this platform well it simply sucks,hehe,also i don't understand why chevy from a platform of "golf class segment" want to make a mid size sedan vehicle, my small fiat punto at home is more comfortable what you don't expect from car which is 4,5 meters, i drive all models of gwm, i can say that florid, coolbear even this i7 is more comfortable inside when i compare it with chevy cruze

daewoo-chevrolet
11-05-2009, 08:39 AM
http://img1.gtimg.com/auto/pics/23350/23350761.jpg

http://img1.gtimg.com/auto/pics/23350/23350763.jpg

Source: http://auto.qq.com/a/20091105/000117.htm

rshlexington
11-05-2009, 09:26 PM
I agree that the rear end looks like a yaris, but I really like the front end treatment. It looks very different from any small american cars, in a good way, our econoboxes are way too conservative looking.:)

martin_krpan
11-16-2009, 12:13 PM
GW i7 ready for Guangzhou Auto Show:
http://www.uncars.com/xc/gwxc/197721.shtml
http://news.cheshi.com/gcxc/200911/158548.shtml

http://s2.mojalbum.com/kitajci-9-foto_4219952_17373662_17455308.jpg
http://s2.mojalbum.com/kitajci-9-foto_4219952_17373662_17455309.jpg
http://s2.mojalbum.com/kitajci-9-foto_4219952_17373662_17455307.jpg
http://s2.mojalbum.com/kitajci-9-foto_4219952_17373662_17455310.jpg

micodelija
11-17-2009, 06:29 PM
http://img694.imageshack.us/img694/1057/gwmi7interior.jpg
http://img43.imageshack.us/img43/7129/gwmi7interior1.jpg
nice interor, finaly gwm did some good job and avoid copy, this car maybe look similar to other models but don't have such copy lines like florid, coolbear, peri....maybe this will be new way for gwm

martin_krpan
11-18-2009, 01:21 AM
I agree with you micodelija, nice interior.

daewoo-chevrolet
11-18-2009, 11:42 AM
@ micodelija: This is obviously a copycat of the Toyota Yaris, IMO.

http://www.mojalbum.com/data/images/2/4219952/17373662/17455307.jpg

http://www.autoweek.nl/images/480/1/452c673e33b16eed805bb1383fae29e1.jpg

http://www.mojalbum.com/data/images/2/4219952/17373662/17455310.jpg

http://www.autoweek.nl/images/480/0/86f27c78d35a79dfdc778d1912d7e920.jpg

Okay, Great Wall redesigned the interior, nose, rear and the doors a bit, but that's it.
Shame on you (again), GWM!

micodelija
11-19-2009, 08:23 AM
@ micodelija: This is obviously a copycat of the Toyota Yaris, IMO.

Okay, Great Wall redesigned the interior, nose, rear and the doors a bit, but that's it.
Shame on you (again), GWM!

yes i know that, but at least they change something :),hahaha,usually plenty chinese manifactures copy everything, including interior, this is a good start for beggining, maybe in future this can help them to make their own design, also this is similiar to toyota yaris, but at least it's not 100% copy, there is a difference between similar product and copy product

cuisine
11-19-2009, 10:39 AM
This car will be sold next to Florid ?? Or it is Florid´s successor ?

daewoo-chevrolet
11-19-2009, 10:41 AM
@ micodelija: I bet the i7 is technically a 100% copy of the Toyota Yaris/Vitz. It's not like the Shuanghuan CEO or Noble, which aren't technical copies of the BMW X5/X3 and smart respectively. The exterior of the Great Wall Peri/Hover M1 differs even more from the Fiat Panda (with redesigned window lines on the side) than the i7 from the Yaris/Vitz.
Copycat is IMO a copycat and there are enough Chinese car manufacturers, like Chery, Geely, Brilliance, ChangAn, SAIC Roewe/MG and Jianghuai which show they can design, sometimes with help of an Italian designer, their own products.
Just as Great Wall is also BYD in my opinion on the wrong path with a lineup which consists mere of copycats. As long as these manufacturers don't stop copying products of other manufacturers, I don't take them seriously and it's not a good sign that the first photos of the upcoming Great Wall sedan show lots of similarities with the Toyota Yaris sedan/Belta/Vios http://emoticons.stalensnuitje.nl/icon_sadno.gif

daewoo-chevrolet
11-19-2009, 01:55 PM
First official photos of the Great Wall Phenom:

http://i46.tinypic.com/ngwpyh.jpg

http://i47.tinypic.com/ifacs4.jpg

http://i45.tinypic.com/w6xyma.jpg

Live shots:

http://i46.tinypic.com/200xqo3.jpg

daewoo-chevrolet
11-19-2009, 01:57 PM
http://i46.tinypic.com/30ixg79.jpg

http://i46.tinypic.com/23upord.jpg

http://i48.tinypic.com/5v9f09.jpg

http://i47.tinypic.com/2585b87.jpg

daewoo-chevrolet
11-19-2009, 01:58 PM
http://i45.tinypic.com/15qzxgg.jpg

http://i49.tinypic.com/2e5lago.jpg

http://i50.tinypic.com/30wvasm.jpg

http://i47.tinypic.com/1zh303k.jpg

56 photos: http://photo.auto.sina.com.cn/#0_849_1_0_0_0

micodelija
11-19-2009, 04:28 PM
@ micodelija: I bet the i7 is technically a 100% copy of the Toyota Yaris/Vitz. It's not like the Shuanghuan CEO or Noble, which aren't technical copies of the BMW X5/X3 and smart respectively. The exterior of the Great Wall Peri/Hover M1 differs even more from the Fiat Panda (with redesigned window lines on the side) than the i7 from the Yaris/Vitz.
Copycat is IMO a copycat and there are enough Chinese car manufacturers, like Chery, Geely, Brilliance, ChangAn, SAIC Roewe/MG and Jianghuai which show they can design, sometimes with help of an Italian designer, their own products.
Just as Great Wall is also BYD in my opinion on the wrong path with a lineup which consists mere of copycats. As long as these manufacturers don't stop copying products of other manufacturers, I don't take them seriously and it's not a good sign that the first photos of the upcoming Great Wall sedan show lots of similarities with the Toyota Yaris sedan/Belta/Vios http://emoticons.stalensnuitje.nl/icon_sadno.gif


yes, maybe this is true, but there is one more issue, great wall motor for long time have a good cooperation with toyota, all begin with first models when gwm bought whole production line for models like deer, safe, sing which GWM still have in production, they also buy a licence for toyota 4y engine, which they still produce now, also many parts and still original from toyota, i remember when i visit gwm that all production line have toyota logo on it

http://img692.imageshack.us/img692/8250/changchengxuanli2008044.jpg
here is a photo from first presentation of florid, you can see there toyota yaris as well, i really doubt that gwm will call them if they don't have any cooperation between them, it will be silly to call a vehicle which is maybe identical to your, also from toyota it will be silly to confirm that they will participate there, so i think that gwm this time have something with toyota

KiwiGuy
11-19-2009, 05:35 PM
My question is: Will it be exported? I hope so. There are some similarities between the Yaris and the......... whatever the Great Wall is called, but is really worth it sitting here all day and arguing whether it's a copy or not?

I've seen the interior of the Yaris and I think the GWM one is much nicer to look at.

micodelija
11-19-2009, 06:56 PM
hahaha...that's true, i also like interior and front grill of i7 more, before in some articles this vehcile have different names, phenom and i7, perosnaly i like phenom name, i am sure that gwm will start export of this model, it's really nice

cousine ask intresting question, why gwm need this model when they already have coolbear and florid, i read somwhere that this model will be more expensive then coolbear and florid, it will be somekind "prestige small car" from gwm, with this look and so nice interior i hope that it will have good sale in china

daewoo-chevrolet
11-20-2009, 12:26 PM
There are some similarities between the Yaris and the......... whatever the Great Wall is called, but is really worth it sitting here all day and arguing whether it's a copy or not?

Honestly, I have no doubts that the Phenom is a copy of the Yaris. In my opinion it DOES matter if a (Chinese) car is a copycat or not. The chances of a (Chinese) clone are almost zero in Europe. Thankfully the European judges have banned Great Wall to sell the Peri in Europe because it's an illegal copy: http://www.autonews.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080718/COPY01/829890072/-1/chicgo&template=printart
Great Wall and BYD just must respect the IP-rights if they will become global players.
In my opinion it's good to be critical to Chinese cars. I see great chances for Chery (Riich M1/X1, A1, Fulwin 2, A3, Riich G5, Rely V5, upcoming Tiggo 6), Geely (Emgrand EC7/EC7-RV, EX7, upcoming GC5/GC5-RV), Jianghuai (YueYue, Tongyue (RS), Heyue, Heyue RS), ChangAn (BenBen, Yuexiang, Zhixiang, Jiexun, upcoming CV5) in Europe if the safety and quality level is acceptable.
And what's wrong with a discussion?

daewoo-chevrolet
11-23-2009, 10:33 AM
Phenom live @ Auto Guangzhou:

http://i47.tinypic.com/25jvcig.jpg

http://i47.tinypic.com/f278mq.jpg

http://i46.tinypic.com/1z52ofb.jpg

http://i46.tinypic.com/2n64tnk.jpg

33 live photos: http://car.autohome.com.cn/exps13/624.html

micodelija
12-09-2009, 10:56 PM
http://i49.tinypic.com/dgsc4j.jpg
here is also photo of new model phenom, very attractive with this red color, also interior is very nice, this interior will be used also in the upcoming sedan model which great wall present in china, also this car have 1.5 engine which goes really good, also quality is very good if all new passenger car of vehicles

dragin
12-10-2009, 09:17 AM
yes, maybe this is true, but there is one more issue, great wall motor for long time have a good cooperation with toyota, all begin with first models when gwm bought whole production line for models like deer, safe, sing which GWM still have in production, they also buy a licence for toyota 4y engine, which they still produce now, also many parts and still original from toyota, i remember when i visit gwm that all production line have toyota logo on it

Great photos of you in the i7, and the others, Micodelija.
That's interesting to hear of this long-standing relationship that GW has had with Toyota. You also once mentioned that Isuzu has the same kind of relationship with GW.
As for the Sing model, I think that body was sourced from Fudi. But with such good connections with Toyota and Isuzu why would Great Wall source its pick-up and SUV bodies from Fudi?

daewoo-chevrolet
12-10-2009, 11:00 AM
I can't actually believe the i7, Florid, Coolbear/Hover M3, Cowry, Feelfine (Concept) and upcoming sedan are legal copies of Toyota products. Where is Eric? ;)

micodelija
12-10-2009, 12:40 PM
there will be much changes in future, esepcially during 2010 year, i saw new sedan model, plans for new hover, not h7, completley new model which will go in production, also many old pick up/suv models like deer, sing, safe and other are going out of production, because gwm want to make their quality much better and those models aren't in plans of gwm anymore, some of the production will be maybe transeferd to other countries where gwm produce vehicles

erik (laofan), cmvdc
12-11-2009, 07:52 AM
No, Daewoo, fellow Dutchman, these copies are not legal. I discussed this once with Great Wall, they told me (agressively) that they are in a backwards position on the world market and that gives them the right to copy the necessary technology from modern cars from other companies. BYD has more or less the same view. Note that both make use of the same design company, TJinnova from Shanghai, which shares this opinion. There was never any cooperation between Great Wall and Toyota, neither with Isuzu.
Greetings,

micodelija
12-11-2009, 08:14 AM
hmmm..very intresting, i am wondering with who you talk from gwm about this issue because i am 100& sure that nobody from company told you that:confused:

dragin
12-11-2009, 10:26 AM
In the early days, the philosophy of small Chinese automakers was: "don't question success, just imitate it". I guess we can't blame these little players, but the question is..For how long can it work for them? Japan and Korea on the other hand knew when to abandon that mentality. They finally moved on to gain the respect of the established makers in the global industry.
It may be time to GW, BYD, BAW, and the others to also do this.

But Erik those old Toyota truck body dies are out there... and I've always wondered where GW and the others, got them.

As for official Toyota tie-ups. The only ones that I know that exist are with Brilliance, Guangqi, and FAW.

daewoo-chevrolet
12-11-2009, 11:26 AM
Thanks for you answer, Erik :thumb:

plans for new hover, not h7, completley new model which will go in production

Hopefully it won't be something like this:

http://i48.tinypic.com/1060emp.jpg

;)

micodelija
12-11-2009, 02:44 PM
hahaha....daewoo, this model don't look so bad,hahha, i got a photo of new concept model of hover, but i can't publish it, because people from great wall will kill me :), haha

also about that cooperation between gwm and other partners, i also think that great wall copy some issues from other car makers, but i also see personaly whole old production line and sell great wall for 4 years now, first models of deer are having ORIGINAL parts from toyota, sample is rear lamp, simply there is toyota logo on it,also there is an 4y engine as well, then we have some other parts from isuzu, especially in first diesel 4d28 engine, i sold plenty of those engine parts here in croatia, because it simply fit without problem on isuzu models, also the chasis,one time i visit hummer service here in croatia and their service workers check our vehcile, they was very suprised because all is very similiar to hummer,because hover is based on isuzu axiom, that mean general motors, those new engies 1.3 and 1.5 are also similar to toyota engines, i am sure that gwm made that by same recept like they do with 2.2 4y engine, on some older models of deer and safe there is also a gearbox from kia

erik (laofan), cmvdc
12-13-2009, 04:12 PM
Hi Micodelija, I appreciate your entries and your work in Croatia. Let that be clear. I had these discussions at the Beijing Auto Show, 2006. The TJ Innova stand was just beside the Great Wall stand that year, TJInnova showed a home-designed minicar there. Of course (I have a lot of Great Wall name cards) I don't know exactly which person of Great Wall was so unfriendly to me.
I am surprised to hear that a couple of years ago Great Wall even used original parts from foreign companies, though there are also copys of parts existing which are fakely branded. The vehicles sold in China have practically always Made in China engines, these can be based on foreign makes like Toyota, Mitsubishi etc. These engines are mostly legally made and just bought by Great Wall, for instance the small Toyota engines are made by Tianjin-Toyota. Well, I must say that I am surprised by the activities Great Wall showed the last years, the whole range of minicars, enormous. But can you imagine that I get disappointed when I regard each model more in close up and that I notice at least the blood relationship with all these Toyota models? Great Wall can do better, like Chery, JAC, Geely and others, they all come now with fresh and nice designs, very original ideas etc. Maybe you can explain this to them?

micodelija
12-14-2009, 05:14 AM
yes, eric, all of that in intresting, but here is some other issues, in 2006 year in gwm work between 9000 people, now in gwm work over 20000 people, many managers change, many companies plans change, so there is a big possibility if you talk with somebody in 2006 that those information aren't so good now

for cooperation between toyota and gwm, i am sure that you simply can't so easy use toyota parts, when we order parts for our vehicles they came in original packing and with toyota codes on it, so if the part is orginal i check here in croatia and i can order it in toyota after sale service as well, i am sure that gwm and toyota have something between them, i also got a confirmation on that info, but we can all guessing,we can see how it start, first with deer model, simply deer pick up was best selling pick up in china for lot of years, while many other producers have "the same pickup" but the fail in selling, reason is simple, great wall was having whole production line which keep good quality of vehicle, while other companies didn't have it, i see that gwm new models and engines are mainly based on toyota, but with big changes, i had toyota before and drive this new models from gwm, simply gwm models are much different, including driving skills, interior look, outside look and chasis, simply it's much different to drive gwm and toyota, personaly i like gwm more

then engines, there is also big difference between gw491qme engine and other 491 engines which many chinese producers have, reason is very simple, great wall engine is 100% based on toyota, while others are copy, also new gasoline engines 1.3 and 1.5, they are also based on toyota, i check new 1.3 engine and compare it with engine in my old toyota yaris, very small differences between them, which is good by my opinion

also i am sure that you remember how hyundai, kia, daewoo eneter european markets, with models like pony, pride, nexia and so on, they need years to have their own design and to be recognized brands in europe, i am sure that for 5 od 10 years gwm will have their own modern vehicle which will not be little bit similar to others, i think that gwm is on good way

martin_krpan
12-17-2009, 09:18 AM
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martin_krpan
12-17-2009, 09:19 AM
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martin_krpan
12-17-2009, 09:20 AM
http://s2.mojalbum.com/kitajci-11-foto_4219952_17377335_17518764.jpg
http://s2.mojalbum.com/kitajci-11-foto_4219952_17377335_17518765.jpg
http://s2.mojalbum.com/kitajci-11-foto_4219952_17377335_17518766.jpg
http://s2.mojalbum.com/kitajci-11-foto_4219952_17377335_17518767.jpg

http://product.xgo.com.cn/pic/iframe.php?brand_id=32&firm_id=32492&line_id=3806&ref0=http://www.xgo.com.cn/
http://car.autohome.com.cn/pic/series/624.html

micodelija
12-17-2009, 01:48 PM
haha...third photo is taken in front of dongfeng yuan showroom :)

boogiecat
12-20-2009, 07:41 AM
Looks nice...The interior looks better than the ones in the Yaris..

simtopia23
01-02-2010, 08:25 AM
the car is good but too similar with toyota yaris and toyota's model is better

the result is still pleasant, the interior seems well made and the engines are suitable.

say they will arrive in Europe in September 2010.

micodelija
03-24-2010, 07:45 AM
http://s2.mojalbum.com/kitajci-18-foto_4219952_17405620_18162769.jpg
http://img.autohome.com.cn/2010/3/23/23-17-17-39-920622088.jpg


according to autohome.cn great wall will start to offer two kind of grills for their i7 model, simply customers now can choose a mask which made according to their wishes, intresting move, this is almost new model and to offer something like this

geralilio
03-24-2010, 10:20 AM
i think this is a nice move from great wall, as some people might find the original grill to be too aggressive

parbak
03-24-2010, 06:31 PM
I like the new grill, like you said, the old one is too aggressive... Now is a nice looking car :)

geralilio
03-25-2010, 03:16 AM
are there any live shots of this new grill?

dragin
03-25-2010, 09:09 AM
i think this is a nice move from great wall, as some people might find the original grill to be too aggressive
I agree Geralilio. Great Wall has done their marketing homework and they realize that the long toothed fangs may turn off some buyers. But on the other hand it may appeal to a younger male market. I personally like its unique appearance. It reminds me of some of the toothy big rigs (trucks) that bear down on my rear bumper, if I'm too foolish to be in the way on the downhill.
By live shots did you mean the views shown when we scroll to the top of the page?

geralilio
03-25-2010, 10:12 AM
hi dragin, thanks for agreeing with me. like what people say, different strokes for different folks. some might like the "old" grill, some might like the new one. personally, i prefer the new one, although it looks a bit subaru-ish :D

anyway, by live shots, i mean if there are any shots of the phenom with the new grill in real life environments, like the ones posted before. as of now, the one shown is either a shot inside a studio or a rendering. :D

so, does anyone have live shots? :D

Marko
03-30-2010, 02:28 AM
Nice i like it:P

martin_krpan
04-23-2010, 02:14 PM
Phenom with new face:
http://chezhan.bitauto.com/beijing/2010/greatwall/lingao/

http://img3.bitautoimg.com/autoalbum/files/20100423%5C348/2038242141_1242771_3.jpg
http://img3.bitautoimg.com/autoalbum/files/20100423%5C348/2038248703_1242774_3.jpg
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http://img1.bitautoimg.com/autoalbum/files/20100423%5C348/2038314797_1242803_3.jpg

parbak
04-28-2010, 04:47 PM
Now is a nice looking car. The old front was terrible.

KiwiGuy
08-09-2010, 01:03 AM
C10/i7 to have new crossover model

From China Car Times:
Greatwall are on a wall with their small car range, despite some small hiccups along the way that made them rethink their European strategy, their Chinese plans are going extremely well. Their latest small car is a crossover version of the i7 hatchback, although it appears to have lost its interesting grill and front end, and has been given a much improved face.

The handsome crossover version is expected to launch in September this year, and will come with the choice of 1.3L and 1.5L engines as well as a 5 speed manual or a CVT gearbox, pricing is expected to be in the 60-80,000rmb marker.

This crossover version is showing serious signs of being an extremely nice car, and will no doubt further Greatwall Motor’s plans to dominate in both the mini car and the SUV/Pick up truck segment, Great Wall are also one of the largest automotive exporters and small cars like this are likely to improve their standing abroad as well.

daewoo-chevrolet
12-20-2010, 07:57 AM
Great Wall presents the Haval M3 EV at Auto Guangzhou 2010:

http://img4.cache.netease.com/photo/0008/2010-12-20/6OBMA8MM4BU90008.jpg

http://img4.cache.netease.com/photo/0008/2010-12-20/6OBMAEE24BU90008.jpg

http://img3.cache.netease.com/photo/0008/2010-12-20/6OBMAKAI4BU90008.jpg

http://img4.cache.netease.com/photo/0008/2010-12-20/6OBMAM904BU90008.jpg

daewoo-chevrolet
12-20-2010, 07:58 AM
http://img4.cache.netease.com/photo/0008/2010-12-20/6OBMAO4F4BU90008.jpg

http://img3.cache.netease.com/photo/0008/2010-12-20/6OBMAQ2V4BU90008.jpg

http://img3.cache.netease.com/photo/0008/2010-12-20/6OBMBD6K4BU90008.jpg

http://img4.cache.netease.com/photo/0008/2010-12-20/6OBMBH3E4BU90008.jpg

51 photos: http://auto.163.com/photoview/4BU90008/132329.html

geralilio
12-20-2010, 08:24 AM
kinda like the suzuki sx4. i though the m3 was the other model, the compact suv?

daewoo-chevrolet
12-20-2010, 09:01 AM
The Haval (Hover) M3 had already before the introduction been renamed to Haval M2.

geralilio
12-20-2010, 09:34 PM
http://www.auto-car-shop.com/wp-content/uploads/HLIC/709232bbeda1f3402291ae444d50525e.jpg

what i meant was this one :D

Rally Red Lancer GTS
12-20-2010, 10:25 PM
The silver, blue and headlamp silver mix looks kind of cool on the Great Wall Voleex C10 SUV.

martin_krpan
01-18-2011, 11:39 AM
Voleex C10 Cross - Haval M3:
http://s2.mojalbum.com/avto2-foto_4219952_17423386_18429435.jpg


source:
http://auto.sohu.com/20110118/n278929821_2.shtml

kallepetri
01-19-2011, 04:33 PM
What is the diffirence between Great wall i7/Phenomen/Ling Ao and Voleex C10.
In my eyes these 4 diffirece cars are the one same. Is it diffirent nose?

geralilio
01-19-2011, 09:18 PM
i thought this one was the haval m3?

http://media.il.edmunds-media.com/great-wall/haval-m3/as/10/be/great-wall_haval-m3_f34_10-be-as_42710_815.jpg

dragin
01-20-2011, 09:41 AM
Kallepetri I think you are right. From the A pillar back the i7, Phenom, Lingao, and Voleex C10 are the same model.

And Geralilio I think you are right too. Great Wall has apparently thrown us a curve by labeling the i7 EV with the "M3" designation normally associated with the Haval. But Martin you too have called it the M3 in your single photo above, so I'm confused.

And DC I was not aware of the change from Haval M3 to M2.

Can someone straighten us all out?

Oh, and Kallepetri, I think the i7 model has also gone by the names: CH031, Xuanku, and “Feelfine”, at an earlier time. :-)

btw Geralilio, I can't see your photo of 12-20-10

martin_krpan
01-20-2011, 10:48 AM
The SUV geralilio is reffering to was indeed originaly named Haval M3 but was later renamed to Haval M2 as daewoo-chevrolet already explained. I also wasn't aware of that fact.
As name M3 was free, GW obviously decided to 'give it' to upcoming C10 Cross. Even in original article at Auto.sohu, it is mentioned that:
''Ling Ao Cross Edition has been renamed the Harvard M3, officially entered the Great Wall Hover SUV series''

geralilio
01-20-2011, 11:15 AM
The SUV geralilio is reffering to was indeed originaly named Haval M3 but was later renamed to Haval M2 as daewoo-chevrolet already explained. I also wasn't aware of that fact.
As name M3 was free, GW obviously decided to 'give it' to upcoming C10 Cross. Even in original article at Auto.sohu, it is mentioned that:
''Ling Ao Cross Edition has been renamed the Harvard M3, officially entered the Great Wall Hover SUV series''

hi martin, you said the suv above is renamed haval m2, but isnt this the haval m2?

http://03071c2.netsolhost.com/blog1/wp-content/gallery/greatwall-havalm2/greatwallhavalm2003.jpg

martin_krpan
01-20-2011, 11:37 AM
Yes you are right. The car above is indeed Haval M2. Now I'm confused also :confused:

The best we wait and see how GW is going to name future members of Haval family...

erik (laofan), cmvdc
01-24-2011, 05:21 AM
Yes, it is complicated.
Great Wall named three different cars Hover (Haval) M3:
1. the Coolbear Sportsversion, introduced at the Shanghai Show 2009 as M3. In production since April 2010 as M2. (foto Geralilio here above, 01/20).
2. the 'urban mini suv', introduced at the Beijing Show 2010 as M3. See photo Geralilio 12/21 and 01/20.
3. the C10 Cross, introduced with electro engine at the Shenzhen Show 2010 as M3EV. See photos Daewoo 12/20. This is the car on the photo from Martin (01/18), that seems to be a petrol version, named M3.

dragin
01-25-2011, 11:07 AM
Early on, coding models is fine, but this random naming of models can be risky for Great Wall. We all know that brand name changes have been notorious for confusing would-be buyers, and deflecting then elsewhere.

geralilio
01-25-2011, 10:07 PM
I think what they're finally calling the M3 is the c10 cross... We'll find out what the name for the others will be once they officially launch

geralilio
04-04-2011, 02:23 AM
i think the c10 cross will now be called c20

daewoo-chevrolet
04-18-2011, 11:21 AM
Official photos of the Voleex C20R and C20 EV:

http://image.bitautoimg.com/bitauto//2011/04/19585930_550.jpg

http://image.bitautoimg.com/bitauto//2011/04/200456849_550.jpg

Source: http://news.bitauto.com/xinche/20110414/2005338575.html

martin_krpan
04-19-2011, 11:26 AM
Voleex C20 @ 2011 Shanghai Auto Show:
http://car.autohome.com.cn/showcar/exps23/2122.html
http://db.auto.sohu.com/sh2011/car_3254.shtml

http://s2.mojalbum.com/avto6-foto_4219952_17447490_18672035.jpg
http://s2.mojalbum.com/avto6-foto_4219952_17447490_18672034.jpg
http://car.autohome.com.cn/photoshow/125730.html
http://car.autohome.com.cn/photoshow/125727.html
http://car.autohome.com.cn/photoshow/125721.html
http://car.autohome.com.cn/photoshow/125722.html
http://car.autohome.com.cn/photoshow/125723.html
http://car.autohome.com.cn/photoshow/123027.html
http://car.autohome.com.cn/photoshow/123009.html
http://car.autohome.com.cn/photoshow/123021.html
http://car.autohome.com.cn/photoshow/123016.html

micodelija
05-12-2011, 04:46 AM
http://www2.picturepush.com/photo/a/5638050/img/5638050.jpg
i had chance to drive new c10 as well
engine is quite good, the car had 1.3 engine, goes very well
interior is nice, and what i like the most...handling :thumb:, it goes really well in curves and highway, also got quite spacious cabin inside, 4 people was in the car during my driving....and we all drive comfortably
also AC system is very good, outside was almost 25C....it cool the car without problem

simtopia23
06-19-2011, 03:47 PM
http://www2.picturepush.com/photo/a/5638050/img/5638050.jpg
i had chance to drive new c10 as well
engine is quite good, the car had 1.3 engine, goes very well
interior is nice, and what i like the most...handling :thumb:, it goes really well in curves and highway, also got quite spacious cabin inside, 4 people was in the car during my driving....and we all drive comfortably
also AC system is very good, outside was almost 25C....it cool the car without problem

in china or Italy??

because i'm interested to buy this car. it looks an aggressive version of the Toyota Yaris.

micodelija
06-20-2011, 07:16 AM
in italy...it will be available from 2012 year

martin_krpan
08-30-2011, 11:57 AM
Great Wall Voleex C20R:
http://s2.mojalbum.com/4219952_17470013_19000006/avto10/19000006.jpg

http://s2.mojalbum.com/4219952_17470013_19000007/avto10/19000007.jpg

http://s2.mojalbum.com/4219952_17470013_19000014/avto10/19000014.jpg

http://s2.mojalbum.com/4219952_17470013_19000005/avto10/19000005.jpg

martin_krpan
08-30-2011, 11:58 AM
http://s2.mojalbum.com/4219952_17470013_19000004/avto10/19000004.jpg

http://s2.mojalbum.com/4219952_17470013_19000008/avto10/19000008.jpg

http://s2.mojalbum.com/4219952_17470013_19000013/avto10/19000013.jpg

http://s2.mojalbum.com/4219952_17470013_19000011/avto10/19000011.jpg

martin_krpan
08-30-2011, 11:59 AM
http://s2.mojalbum.com/4219952_17470013_19000012/avto10/19000012.jpg

http://s2.mojalbum.com/4219952_17470013_19000010/avto10/19000010.jpg

http://s2.mojalbum.com/4219952_17470013_19000009/avto10/19000009.jpg

http://s2.mojalbum.com/4219952_17470013_19000015/avto10/19000015.jpg

more:
http://car.autohome.com.cn/pic/series/2122.html

micodelija
11-18-2011, 08:27 AM
http://www.autochiny.pl/news_photos/news/11-2011/great_wall_lovech.jpg
after sixteen years Bulgaria is back on the car manufacturing map of Europe. The first Great Wall Motor Voleex C10 rolled off the assembly line in Lovech. Litex Motors, which is a local partner of Chinese tycoon, has began testing a new assembly line and starts first attempts synchronization of montage. Litex ensures that enters one of the most modern cars’ production management system, which will lead to high quality of products produced in this factory.

Great Wall Motor brand has been officially launched for sale in Bulgaria in October. Initially, the offer includes three vehicles - Voleex C10/C30, Hover and Steed. Each of them will be make in Lovech in future, whose maximum capacity is estimated at 50,000 vehicles. Local dealers got 150 orders for all type of vehicles so far. Cars produced in Bulgaria are one of the cheapest in the European Union. Chinese company believes in the reliability of vehicles produced locally and offers local buyers a 5-year warranty limited by 100,000 kilometers.

:thumb::D...first chinese car made in EU

parbak
11-18-2011, 02:02 PM
Great news!:thumb: