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micodelija
07-24-2006, 03:58 PM
Great Wall Motor Co., Ltd has introduced "5+1" new models at the Auto Guangzhou exhibition.

Leading the pack is the new self-developed Wingle pickup truck. Its name comes from the combination of Wind and Eagle. It features an electronically-controlled common-rail diesel engine, developed in conjunction with Bosch.

The new turbo-diesel powertrain, dubbed the Intec complies with Euro III emission standards and has a maximum torque of 225 Nm between 1600-2600 rpm range.

The Intec engine will also be available in the Hover CUV.

Other new models included the Hover Pi, a stretched version of the Hover CUV with luxury equipment. The first Hover Pi was built for Fidel Castro.


http://s2.mojalbum.com/4219952_17521675_19385076/avt015/19385076.jpg
http://s2.mojalbum.com/4219952_17521675_19385075/avt015/19385075.jpg
http://s2.mojalbum.com/4219952_17521675_19385074/avt015/19385074.jpg

Admin
07-24-2006, 04:17 PM
Is this a picture of the GWM Hover PI? If they already started in production for Fidel Castro, then shouldnt there be real photos somewhere? cant find any :(

dragin
07-24-2006, 06:48 PM
The Wingle is apparently GWM's big splash at Guangzhou. This might be a good model to pilot the US market entry providing it combines good fuel economy with decent heavy duty performance. Maybe GWM will follow the precedent set by Toyota and Datsun in the 70's when they offered (4x2) pickups that were more affordable than many sedans.

Here are photos of the Hover Pi model presented to Fidel.

AXLE
07-24-2006, 10:00 PM
GAH :scared: that thing looks horrid. Almost looks to me that they attempted to fuse the front end from the Audi S4 onto a pickup body.

http://us.autos1.yimg.com/img.autos.yahoo.com/aic/audi_s4_sportsedan_2006_385x192.jpg

Admin
07-25-2006, 12:52 AM
The Wingle is apparently GWM's big splash at Guangzhou. This might be a good model to pilot the US market entry providing it combines good fuel economy with decent heavy duty performance. Maybe GWM will follow the precedent set by Toyota and Datsun in the 70's when they offered (4x2) pickups that were more affordable than many sedans.

Here are photos of the Hover Pi model presented to Fidel.

The SUV limo is the Pi?

then what is the pic above originally posted?

AXLE
07-25-2006, 04:16 AM
I retract my negative comment. I think it looks okay... its just that photo is crap. Here are some actual photos...

http://photo.mycar168.com/85/45/334/
http://piclib.pcauto.com.cn/cars/sg2594/
http://www.360che.com/m25/6461_index.html
http://www.360che.com/m10/2550_index.html


http://s2.mojalbum.com/kitajci-31-foto_4219952_17408027_18205460.jpg
http://autopic.sohu.com/auto_images/piclib/19/75/Img1127519.JPG
http://s2.mojalbum.com/kitajci-31-foto_4219952_17408027_18205461.jpg
http://autopic.sohu.com/auto_images/piclib/20/75/Img1127520.JPG
http://s2.mojalbum.com/kitajci-31-foto_4219952_17408027_18205462.jpg
http://autopic.sohu.com/auto_images/piclib/21/75/Img1127521.JPG


This is what the front end is actually from, the VW Magellan SUV concept....

http://www.motortrend.com/features/112_0201_concepts+volkswagen_magellan_suv+left_fro nt_side_view.jpg

micodelija
07-25-2006, 05:49 AM
can somebody find a picture of interior???

Andy
07-25-2006, 07:02 PM
I retract my negative comment. I think it looks okay... its just that photo is crap. Here are some actual photos...
This is what the front end is actually from, the VW Magellan SUV concept....


:nono: What a lazy effort by the Great Wall Motor. It doesn't hurt to use some ingenuity, you know.

Admin
07-25-2006, 07:08 PM
Nice Axle, I couldn't find pictures.
I agree, its looks better in these pictures

rodrally
07-26-2006, 02:52 PM
The side, rear and interior design shows that this is a Isuzu D-Max based pickup.

Just compare the interior, side and rear design with a D-Max or a Chevrolet Colorado and you'll see what i'm saying...

gr8
07-26-2006, 03:36 PM
two things here

first: the name or code on the back, being i think cc1031ps60. i know its a code name, but we dont need a bar code number name stuff, code names like m14, b21 etc etc is good enough so ppl in this forum could acturally know what m14 means when i say m14. one day i would be talking to my friends saying "hey did you check out the new cc1031ps60 that just came out?"

second: i thought the new honda ridgeline looks like a tadpole, but when i saw this then i know what a tadpole car looks like.

Dennis Juan Sanabria
08-11-2006, 02:23 PM
Cut be you are going to help me, :eek: I whant to see interior fhotos of the GW WINGLE pick up. If you have, please send me. I need that information.
Thanks and best regards :thumb:

phaeton
09-08-2006, 04:17 AM
Heres an interior shot of the Wingle for Dennis :)

http://cimg2.163.com/photo/0008/2006-07-24/2MQFHCLE04HO0008.jpg

more Wingle pics http://auto.163.com/photoset/04HO0008/3159.html

razorback
09-26-2006, 07:26 PM
I would love to see that truck here in the usa!

Colvindesign
09-26-2006, 09:47 PM
I wouldn't, it looks lame.

They would have been better off putting the CUV front end on it.

pokershark
09-26-2006, 10:44 PM
i ttotally agree, its looks weird from the front

Colvindesign
09-27-2006, 09:39 AM
It really actually makes me upset, because I know of dozens (actually more) of designers who would design for free or next to free, just to get one of their designs made. And they have a LOT of talent.

It's a complete waste. These companies can go and get real (and real good) designers to design some very nice looking vehicles for nothing, and they just copy other cars already in existance.

I'm going to stop there, before I get into insults or something..... :cursing:

Dennis Juan Sanabria
09-27-2006, 11:29 AM
Remember, the exit to this companies in China ,to star the bussinees cars, was to buy to big brands the boddys (example:Toyota, ISUZU) and do the cars. I thinks in the future, they are going to do your own desing. But in your way you have the reason. Regards, :thumb: Dennis Juan Sanabria

Colvindesign
09-27-2006, 12:14 PM
I completely understand the reasoning behind the way it has been done before.

It is time for it to change.

Now this sort of thing is going to be a black eye on the Chinese auto-industry for a long time, until we see the end of it.

There is no reason at all why this pick-up could not have an original design. They paid people to make the molds and make the prototype pieces, most likely from pictures, they could have had someone give them free design work and could have done the same work from drawings, and had something original.

There is no excuse for it.

BringIt
09-28-2006, 08:15 AM
...one day i would be talking to my friends saying "hey did you check out the new cc1031ps60 that just came out?"...

I was thinking the same thing :lol:

The front end styling HAS to be "licensed" from VW, right?!?!?! It looks identical to that VW concept!!! Does anyone know???

Even if it was a ligit license, like someone said, PLEASE just come up with an original design already. It doesn't have to be totally weird or ground breaking, just handsome and inoffensive, and most importantly, not an EXACT copy of someone else's!

With a more macho, robust styling, I can see this PU totally take off in the US. There is really no small PU anymore in the US! The sub 13K PU market has no players! Tons of folks would line up for a very nicely equipped 4 door PU for under 15K. I would. (and the tolerance for minor quality flaws is higher in PU too.)

Raul
12-30-2006, 05:46 AM
Great Wall Wingle now in production.

http://cn.autoblog.com/images/2006/12/20061220-4.jpg

http://cn.autoblog.com/images/2006/12/20061220-3.jpg

god_bless_japan
12-30-2006, 11:18 AM
any one know hwta kind of engine this truck has??

micodelija
01-10-2007, 05:46 PM
the pick up have new 2.8 common rail engine with 95 HP and 225 NM,adopted to euro 3 emissions,the engine is most basic in mitsubihsi engines,have the GT honeywell turbo in it and bosch electronic common rail sistem

i drive the wingle,it goes just fine and i was pretty suprised

dragin
01-11-2007, 11:00 AM
Here's a contradiction that baffles me.

One photo shows Great Wall's very advanced robotics line for frame welding.

The other shows a weld under the bed of the Wingle pickup, that doesn't reflect the quality one expects from a robot.

Is the robotics line for models other than Wingle???

micodelija
01-11-2007, 12:45 PM
the hover and wingle comes from new factory,and have the new robotics production,i don't see what it's the problem on that picture,because wingle is working vehicle,not passenger car...i see on other vehicles like mazda b2500 or nissan navara,or mitsubishi...they aren't so much better,escpecially the cargo from new toyota hilux,i know that wingle can't compare still with them but wingle isnt a bad car because of that,the chasis is very strong and i see when i was in company what that vehicle can do

god_bless_japan
01-14-2007, 05:06 AM
do these truck come with petrol engines??

micodelija
01-14-2007, 04:20 PM
still not...but i think that they will put the petrol engine...personaly i hope so because i don't like diesel engines!

Dennis Juan Sanabria
01-18-2007, 04:06 PM
China's Great Wall starts work on $257 million plant

Reuters / January 18, 2007 - 9:00 am




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SHANGHAI (Reuters) -- China's Great Wall Motor Co. Ltd. is building a $257 million (2 billion yuan) engine plant partly to help expand its vehicle sales overseas, especially in developed markets, a senior executive said today.

Great Wall, which already sells vehicles to more than 50 countries in South America, the Middle East and Africa, entered a developed market for the first time late last year with the shipment of 500 of its Hover SUVs to Italy.

It would move 200 more units there by February, with full-year sales expected to top 1,000 units, which may include some of its own-brand compact cars, said the executive, who asked not to be identified.

The company recently kicked off the engine project, capable of making 400,000 gasoline and diesel-fueled engines per year, to boost its vehicle output, he said. Production would start in the first half of 2008.

"It could also be a big help for our sales overseas, especially in Europe where diesel engines have become mainstream," he said, adding that diesel engines could be the firm's next major focus.

The facility, in Great Wall's base in China's northern province of Hebei, will be funded by the company's internal resources, he said, ruling out any new share issues in the near term.

Great Wall belongs to a small club of ambitious Chinese automakers such as Geely Automobile Holdings Co. Ltd. and Chery Automobile, which is pushing sales aggressively beyond the home market hoping to make a name globally.

Its general manager, Wang Fengying, told Reuters in November that her company aimed to expand into other European countries such as Greece, Spain and Portugal and hopefully break into the U.S. market this year, banking in part on its cost advantage.


:thumb:

AndrewGS
03-17-2007, 01:48 AM
I would love to see that truck here in the usa!

Go to your local Chevrolet, GMC or Isuzu dealer. They sell a quality, original version that Isuzu engineered, they just have a different front end, drivetrain and slightly longer wheelbase.

It's pretty sad how they took the D-Max and the VW concept and so blatantly copied their designs. I'm not suprised though, as almost every Chinese vehicle is a copy of another vehicle in some way.

daewoo-chevrolet
03-17-2007, 05:42 AM
http://s2.mojalbum.com/kitajci-4-foto_4219952_11803055_12805125.jpg
http://s2.mojalbum.com/kitajci-4-foto_4219952_11803055_12805119.jpg
http://s2.mojalbum.com/kitajci-4-foto_4219952_11803055_12805104.jpg
http://s2.mojalbum.com/kitajci-4-foto_4219952_11803055_12805112.jpg


http://www.zr.ru/articles/50070/

MTodorovic
10-10-2007, 01:54 PM
Very interesting pictures,

micodelija
10-10-2007, 04:17 PM
ne znam jel mi promaklo ali brate...govori srpski bre da te ceo svet razume :) hehe šala, vidim novi si na forumu...dobrodošao

The Great Wall
10-18-2007, 02:31 AM
I have always seemed to like quirky looking cars and this one I really like. The front end is going to turn heads or turn stomachs one of the two lol. It also appeals to me as someone who likes Dual Cab Pick-Ups.

vitordavid
10-18-2007, 01:12 PM
I think the wingle is a step forward in the chinese auto industry.
Its a little bit more than copy past toyotas and isuzu.
Like it or dont like it it as a design of its own. and some technical improvments if we compare it with other chinese models

cuongnet
11-05-2007, 02:18 AM
what this ?? hot

mememe
12-21-2007, 06:27 AM
Greatwall Wingle’s successes oversea

11/10/2007

  In the international market, Wingle is attracting more and more people’s attention. Since March of this year when Wingle was put into the market, this high level pick-up has frequently exposed in the large scale automobile exhibitions in Paris, Moscow, Bologna etc. In June of this year, it replaced many international famous brands like Toyota and Citroen, to be the only brand of the pace car at Costarica station in the vehicle championships of Latin America 2007. It also appeared in the racing field of American Cup and stirred up a wide Wingle fever there.


  At present, many overseas dealers including those in EU give their high praise to Wingle, whose sale volume keeps increasing all the way. According to statistics, up to the end of August, the export volume of Wingle had achieved 2890 units but the ordered amount of it is 4,500 units. Moreover, this number is increasing by 110% per month. Depending on this single product, the sale ratio of internal and overseas reaches 1:1.

  After investigating Wingle, Mr. Pierce, an EU dealer said with great surprise, “its diesel engine adopts the technology of high pressure common rail, which is also the most advanced even in Germany.”

  Such international attention is fair and reasonable. Pick-up, which has top grade equipment and expensive price, is a very popular and fashionable type in the international market. Idea abroad is quite different from that of China. In foreign countries, driving a pick-up is not a lack of pride, but a symbol of fashion and identity. In many countries, the sale of pick-up is consistently on top, while market share of the high rank pickups has been monopolized by brands like Ford,General, Dodge and Toyota.

  China has ignored this type for years and just regards it as a fractionizing part in motor market. However, it has created miracle that other types cannot achieve! The main symbol of it is that the foreign pick-ups can not be able to export in China since the 90s, because the independent brands leaded by Great Wall Motor have built a solid “Great Wall” to resist the foreign brands.

  Since 1998, the pick-ups of the Great Wall Motor keep hot in the international market. In recent years, with the strong ability of independent research and innovation, Great Wall Motor created top grade pick-up “Wingle” after it has stabilized its share in the middle and low grade markets, to compete with famous brands of transnational corporation and joint ventures in China. What’ s more, it is striking with the price that is 15-18 thousand dollars lower than the famous brands of transnational corporation, which cannot but attract the attention of the international market.

  No doubt there has been a common sense on Wingle’s technology and fashion. With 12 years of history of producing pick-ups, the Great Wall Motor created top grade pick-up “Wingle” through the world by its idea of “advanced technology brings newly fashion”. Wingle employs the advantages of the excellent pick-ups trough the world, such as the fashion appearance of Europe and America, advanced electric controlled high pressure common rail diesel from Germany, and newly technology chassis controlling system from Japan, and then achieves the technical unification of Europe and Japan. On performance, the combination of the load bearing, the hauling and the cross country of Wingle become the symbol of high-tech.

  Chinese customers who buy Wingle say, “It is very practical of its spacious and comfortable driving room, and the rear cargo can easily load the goods of 1000kg”. People in the realm of Europe and Japan are also surprised with the technology and the quality of Wingle. They appraise that, “Wingle, with its advanced technology, represents the highest level of pick-ups in China. By its influence to the industry of the world pick-up manufacture, it can take a seat among the high rank pick -ups.”
At present, many overseas dealers including those in EU give their high praise to Wingle, whose sale volume keeps increasing all the way. According to statistics, up to the end of August, the export volume of Wingle had achieved 2890 units but the ordered amount of it is 4,500 units. Moreover, this number is increasing by 110% per month. Depending on this single product, the sale ratio of internal and overseas reaches 1:1.

  After investigating Wingle, Mr. Pierce, an EU dealer said with great surprise, “its diesel engine adopts the technology of high pressure common rail, which is also the most advanced even in Germany.”

  Such international attention is fair and reasonable. Pick-up, which has top grade equipment and expensive price, is a very popular and fashionable type in the international market. Idea abroad is quite different from that of China. In foreign countries, driving a pick-up is not a lack of pride, but a symbol of fashion and identity. In many countries, the sale of pick-up is consistently on top, while market share of the high rank pickups has been monopolized by brands like Ford,General, Dodge and Toyota.

  China has ignored this type for years and just regards it as a fractionizing part in motor market. However, it has created miracle that other types cannot achieve! The main symbol of it is that the foreign pick-ups can not be able to export in China since the 90s, because the independent brands leaded by Great Wall Motor have built a solid “Great Wall” to resist the foreign brands.

  Since 1998, the pick-ups of the Great Wall Motor keep hot in the international market. In recent years, with the strong ability of independent research and innovation, Great Wall Motor created top grade pick-up “Wingle” after it has stabilized its share in the middle and low grade markets, to compete with famous brands of transnational corporation and joint ventures in China. What’ s more, it is striking with the price that is 15-18 thousand dollars lower than the famous brands of transnational corporation, which cannot but attract the attention of the international market.

  No doubt there has been a common sense on Wingle’s technology and fashion. With 12 years of history of producing pick-ups, the Great Wall Motor created top grade pick-up “Wingle” through the world by its idea of “advanced technology brings newly fashion”. Wingle employs the advantages of the excellent pick-ups trough the world, such as the fashion appearance of Europe and America, advanced electric controlled high pressure common rail diesel from Germany, and newly technology chassis controlling system from Japan, and then achieves the technical unification of Europe and Japan. On performance, the combination of the load bearing, the hauling and the cross country of Wingle become the symbol of high-tech.

  Chinese customers who buy Wingle say, “It is very practical of its spacious and comfortable driving room, and the rear cargo can easily load the goods of 1000kg”. People in the realm of Europe and Japan are also surprised with the technology and the quality of Wingle. They appraise that, “Wingle, with its advanced technology, represents the highest level of pick-ups in China. By its influence to the industry of the world pick-up manufacture, it can take a seat among the high rank pick -ups.”

http://www.chinatruck.org/english/2007/oct/11001.html

micodelija
03-05-2008, 07:33 AM
i buy a new wingle:
http://img256.imageshack.us/img256/2481/dsc01014hk5.jpg

http://img256.imageshack.us/img256/4593/dsc01020gd6.jpg

http://img528.imageshack.us/img528/1301/dsc01025he1.jpg

martin_krpan
03-05-2008, 12:19 PM
Congratulation on purchase micodelija. Nice car.
What happened to your Hover?

micodelija
03-05-2008, 04:02 PM
i have a buyer for it...so i will sold it, i prepare already :)

micodelija
03-12-2008, 11:41 AM
http://img169.imageshack.us/img169/2218/wingxr1.jpg

i go home with my new car :)

tchayton
03-12-2008, 07:07 PM
I want the interior! Pleeeeeeeeeeeeease!

micodelija
03-13-2008, 03:00 AM
http://img256.imageshack.us/img256/4593/dsc01020gd6.jpg

here it is

kyton
03-14-2008, 03:20 AM
What is the fuel consumption like. The ones here in South Africa come with a intercooler on the 2.8 tdi

micodelija
03-14-2008, 03:29 AM
consuption is between 9 liters of diesel, my engine have also 2.8 tc engine with 70 kw, i will try to put the chip on it like i put on the safe model to get at least 15-20 ps, i see on the official website that gwm plans to give the engine more power, 85 kw, i think that is ok, also they plan to put gasoline engine which i also perfere because of installation of LPG sistem on it

kyton
03-14-2008, 03:57 AM
Here in SA the 2.8TC has an intercooler an pushes out 82kw. Otherwise how is it in general. Also what range do you get on a tank of diesel.

micodelija
03-14-2008, 09:43 AM
between 600 km, do you have the specification of that engine with intercoller?

micodelija
03-14-2008, 09:51 AM
is there any website from them?

kyton
03-17-2008, 03:19 AM
specs below. The vehicle arrives in SA then gets fitted with an intercooler. Price goes up buy R8000 +/-. Looking at this cause my ford focus 1.6 gives me 9-10 l/100km in town driving.

Suggested Price (Inclusive of VAT)

From R169 990 (4X2)

From R189 990 (4X4)
Dimensions (LxWxH) 5040 x 1800 x 1730
Track Front/Rear (mm) 1515/1525
Wheelbase (mm) 3050
Kerb/Tare Mass (Kg) 1775 (4 x 2)/1920 (4 x 4)
Payload (Kg) 1080
GVM (Kg) 2580
GCM (Kg) 3580
Approach/Departure angle (Degrees) 30/24
Engine Type GW 2.8 TC
No of Cylinders 4 Cyl In Line
Fuel Supply Common Rail
Direct Injection
Cycle 4 Stroke
Displacement (Cm3) 2771
Compression Ratio 17.5:1
Maximum Power (Kw/rpm) 70/3600
Maximum Torque (Nm/rpm) 225/1800
Fuel Tank Capacity (Liters) 70L
Brakes Front/Rear Discs/Drums
Cooling System Water Cooled
Fuel Diesel
Turbo Yes
Steering System Power Steering - Rack and Pinion
Gearbox Manual
Speeds 5 Forward Gears (Synchronised),
1 Reverse
Front Supension Double Wishbone
Independent Suspension
Rear Suspension Variable rigidity, unsymetrical leaf spring
Tyre Sizes (Front and Rear) 235/70 R 16
Axle Configuration 4 x 2/4 x 4
Drive Rear Wheel Drive / Electronic 4WD
No of Doors 4
No of Seats 5
Warranty 3 Year/100 000Km Factory Warranty
Road Side Assist 24 Hour Valid for full 3 Year/100 000Km Period
Vehicle Type Double Cab

PRICES & SPECIFICATIONS ARE SUBJECT TO CHANGE WITHOUT PRIOR NOTIFICATION.

micodelija
03-18-2008, 04:08 AM
is it that local tuning by the dealer from SA?

micodelija
03-24-2008, 05:07 PM
here is some pictures of my wingle:
http://img120.imageshack.us/img120/6816/wing1xb3.jpg
luxury equipment, i think that foglight shoud be better
http://img177.imageshack.us/img177/1166/wing2wg5.jpg
speedometer look good during night, seats are also very comfortable
http://img120.imageshack.us/img120/396/wing3wg3.jpg
radio with cd and 6 speakers in it, quite good serial music
http://img120.imageshack.us/img120/7531/gumegl8.jpg
tires kumho road venture st (20%macadam -80%road),very good tires

mememe
03-28-2008, 02:44 PM
Great Wall Motors' Wingle Made Top 3 in Best Barkki 2008 in South Africa


March 17th, 2008


13.03.2008 -- GW Wingle pickup is the first high-end pickup produced by Great Wall Motor Company Limited. Although it entered South Africa market for a very short time, it has already attracted abroad attention due to its strong & handsome outlook and excellent performance.

In Best Barkki 2008 organized by one of the famous magazines named Barkki and Trucks in February 2008, Great Wall Wingle made the Top 3 by 8 stars evaluated by the professional testers from South Africa. This award verifies the quality of GW products and efficiently enhances the image of GW brand in South Africa.

http://www.autospectator.com/cars/great-wall-motors/0038673-great-wall-motors-039-wingle-made-top-3-best-barkki-2008-south-africa

martin_krpan
04-07-2008, 10:30 AM
Great Wall are planning to make a extra long pick up trucks soon! The 6m long pick up should be able to carry 6 to 8 people, but at the expense of a limited rear cargo area. The triple cab Wingle should be at the Beijing show later this year.
The 6m, triple cab, Wingle is powered by a 2.8 Diesel engine giving the extra long pick up a top speed of 120kph. More news on this one as we get it!

http://s2.mojalbum.com/kitajci-3-foto_4219952_10796317_11638735.jpg

source: China Car Times

micodelija
04-08-2008, 05:27 AM
great wall have one model like this, sailor model for arabic market..probably is for some rich arabic

coche
04-17-2008, 06:38 PM
interesting mmmm could work very well for construction companies

micodelija
05-05-2008, 03:44 AM
http://img357.imageshack.us/img357/3935/10000xo0.jpg
10000 kilometers for 55 days
http://img89.imageshack.us/img89/8109/lampfa5.jpg
this happends when my dad drive a car,he broke this lamp 2 times
http://img530.imageshack.us/img530/3218/enginesa0.jpg
engine works ok, no oil leacking, nothing, top speed of car is 160, consuption is between 8-10 liters

Anton
06-10-2008, 08:40 AM
are there any problems with the Wingle?
I'm thinking about buying one.

How is the interior holding up....?
That's my biggest worry. The quality of the interior and the power of the engine.

micodelija
06-10-2008, 10:40 AM
interior is very good quality, by my opinion maybe even better than in hover, my car now have almost 20000 km and works without problem, all buttons are good

engine is very good because fuel consuption, between 8-10 liters of diesel, top speed is about 150, goes ok, it is also very good for chip tuning, you can easlily add at least 20 ps to him, also isn't very noisy

new wingle will soon have 2.8 tci engine with 85 kw, also will have intercooler on it, and new gasoline engine, 2.4 mivec with 100 kw

micodelija
06-15-2008, 05:11 PM
http://img338.imageshack.us/img338/4954/wingleiceoqs7.jpg

here is wingle with shuanghuan ceo model :)

martin_krpan
06-21-2008, 01:12 PM
The first Wingle assembled successfully in Indonesia.

23rd May 2008 was a great day for Indonesian WICM vehicle factory(subsidiary of Indomobil Group, distributor of GWM) - the first Wingle was finished in the end following nearly one-year-preparation. This is also the first time to realize the export and assembly in IKD for Great Wall Wingle at abroad. Mr. Andrew, CEO of Indomobil Group and other top management participate in this launching ceremony. “Indonesia market is satisfied with the quality and performance of Wingle”, Mr.Andrew said. They believe Great Wall Products will have a prosperous future in Indonesia with the cooperation between both parties. By the way, 100 units Wingle in CBU were exported to Indonesia before this and received excellent feedback on both performance and quality.

http://s2.mojalbum.com/kitajci-4-foto_4219952_11803055_12551712.jpg
http://s2.mojalbum.com/kitajci-4-foto_4219952_11803055_12551715.jpg
http://s2.mojalbum.com/kitajci-4-foto_4219952_11803055_12551718.jpg
http://s2.mojalbum.com/kitajci-4-foto_4219952_11803055_12557119.jpg
source: GWM

micodelija
07-01-2008, 11:51 AM
http://img119.imageshack.us/img119/1429/p7014022gq7.jpg
20000 km, without a problem, just regular maitance
http://img119.imageshack.us/img119/7470/p7014023zj5.jpg
interior is very good, look great
http://img119.imageshack.us/img119/7929/p7014025jd5.jpg
here it is with my new quad

john999
07-01-2008, 10:03 PM
Great Wall Wingle. Now there's a great name !

How about that interior - perhaps Great Wall also make breadmakers ?

micodelija
07-02-2008, 08:54 AM
what's your problem dude?
first read more about wingle model, wingle is a name which came from two words, wind + eagle, od some market his name is steed,sombebody like it...somebody not, but it's better that shunagcheng or something like that

what do you want to say about interior? it's the same like isuzu d-max have and very good quality, by my opinion even better than in mitsubishi l200

mememe
07-02-2008, 11:26 AM
Breadmaker ? huh ?

furblog
07-09-2008, 08:27 PM
Great! That's nice!

furblog
07-09-2008, 08:27 PM
The Wingle is apparently GWM's big splash at Guangzhou. This might be a good model to pilot the US market entry providing it combines good fuel economy with decent heavy duty performance. Maybe GWM will follow the precedent set by Toyota and Datsun in the 70's when they offered (4x2) pickups that were more affordable than many sedans.

Here are photos of the Hover Pi model presented to Fidel.
Nice seats & interior there :)

daewoo-chevrolet
08-07-2008, 04:54 AM
Great Wall Pick Up Steed ready for Europe

Chinese carmaker Great Wall Motor announced the company has been approved to export its high-end pickup Wingle to the European market, reported xinhua.net today.

According to test results released by the British Vehicle Certification Agency (VCA), the Wingle model has passed 26 tests in safety, emission, noise and other aspects. Thus VCA confirmed that Great Wall’s Wingle has met European standards.

Wingle, the main export products of Great Wall Motor, has been sold in more than 70 countries except the European Union. Now, the Chinese carmaker is delivering this model to the European market, starting from Italy, Romania and other countries with the Great Wall overseas sales channel.

Great Wall's sights are now set on Europe. As a launch model for Europe, the Wingle has been produced to meet the European standards. "Wingle is a pickup that can rival Ford and Toyota, so undoubtedly the model can get European’s approval," said the overseas marketing department of Great Wall.

Engine: 2.4i ECODUAL 100 kW/136 hp
Equipment: airconditioning, ABS + EBD, dual airbags, and even electrical package, leather upholstery and alloy wheels
Expected price: 12.000 euros before tax

http://www.blogsmithmedia.com/es.autoblog.com/media/2008/08/steed.jpg

mememe
08-07-2008, 06:58 AM
What makes this Wingle high end ?

GWM better pray that ADAC does not jump in and throw this against the wall like BS6 and Landwind which both also satisfied all the European standards.

micodelija
08-07-2008, 10:46 AM
brilliance passed the test in spanish IDIADA, landwind also passed the test with new x6-pedition model in german tuv, and wingle?

first euroncap test isn't matter for homolgation, manifactures of vehicles don't have to send their vehicles to euroncap test, all vehicles must pass homolgation regulation

but if the wingle goes to euroncap test i am sure that he will pass, car is 100% sure, i am driving it for now over 6 months and don't have any problems with it,also with braking sistem from bosch and airbags for siemens must be good

this ECODUAL is the version which italians sold, that means that car have LPG or CNG instllation on it, regular engine will be mitsubishi mivec 2.4

mememe
08-07-2008, 11:32 AM
Mico

So is the 3 star rating of the Landwind Xpedition confirmed yet ? or is it still "would" and "will" ?

Well we are only 1 month away from Autumn 2008 now.

micodelija
08-07-2008, 05:28 PM
for landwind...i only read one report which was presented to media for that model x6 from tuv, that document was verfied by them, this is what i know, as you know tested car of land wind was x3 model

i contact with some owners of landwind, and they are quite satisfied with their cars, some of them have 50 od 100 tkm, when i ask them for that euroncap test most of replys was...we want only big car with 4x4 and cheap expences for service

but now we are off topic...

RichardLesar
08-29-2008, 03:57 AM
between 600 km, do you have the specification of that engine with intercoller?

Hi

I bought my Steed yesterday and they will be fitting the intercooler at the 2000km service. I will post pictures of the installation when its finished.

Richard

micodelija
10-27-2008, 06:02 PM
http://img360.imageshack.us/img360/8017/satqt4.jpg
without any bigger problems,especially because i use the car for work
i have only regular maintance, change 2 fuel filter, 4 oil filters and air filter, also i replace rear brakes,couple of bulbs and one warranty part at steering whell assembly

jvpe67
10-30-2008, 03:36 AM
1208

1209

1210

1213

1214

micodelija
10-30-2008, 11:23 AM
this intercooler is "home made"?
what type of snorkel do you install on it???

micodelija
12-02-2008, 04:39 PM
http://img155.imageshack.us/img155/5628/dsc07273ni2.jpg

http://img254.imageshack.us/img254/9720/dsc07534mx7.jpg

http://img136.imageshack.us/img136/7827/dsc07283hx5.jpg

my new pick up, gasoline 2.4

martin_krpan
12-02-2008, 04:53 PM
Very nice micodelija. I see it is already 'equiped' with new logo.


More pics:
http://img.360che.com/imgc/800x532/0/68/68773.jpg
http://img.360che.com/imgc/800x532/0/68/68764.jpg
http://img.360che.com/imgc/800x532/0/68/68526.jpg

http://car.autohome.com.cn/pic/series/2459.html
http://www.360che.com/m25/6461_index.html
http://www.360che.com/m10/2550_index.html

micodelija
12-02-2008, 06:47 PM
yes martin, all new models of gwm have that logo, to me most important is to have gasoline engine because i want to install LPG sistem on it :thumb:

alby13
12-02-2008, 08:28 PM
nice pics.

ingjuanf
01-13-2009, 03:13 PM
TO JVPE67.. mm That work is really nice, I have a wingle too and I'm looking for pictures from the front work. specifically the support points under de car.

take on count my petition.... good luck

martin_krpan
01-18-2009, 06:49 AM
Great Wall Steed (Wingle) launch activity in Italy.


At the end of 2008, Eurasia Motor, Great Wall Motor distributor in Italy held the "Great Wall Steed launch activity" in Italy, bringing a great influence in the auto industry around the country and the over the European market.

The event mainly includes two parts: Steed test drive and Press conference. Eurasia Motor invited many famous and professional journalists for the test drive and press conference.

At the press conference, they introduced the Steed video, in which Vice President of Great Wall Motor Company Ltd. Introduced Great Wall Motor briefly. To some extent, the conference changed the European media’s attitude to the Chinese brand, especially to the Chinese auto industry.

During the test drive, Eurasia used several Steed models and a few Hover CUV models. Steed performs very well under many bad road conditions, such as the snowy road, rugged country road and so on. Steed is also a good helper in the grape yard with its powerful engine and spacious room.

Meanwhile, in order to highlight the Chinese culture, Eurasia Motor sticked several Chinese characters on the vehicles, which impressed the media deeply.


http://s2.mojalbum.com/kitajci-6-foto_4219952_14299293_14691382.jpg
http://s2.mojalbum.com/kitajci-6-foto_4219952_14299293_14691379.jpg
http://s2.mojalbum.com/kitajci-6-foto_4219952_14299293_14691376.jpg
source: GWM

martin_krpan
03-08-2009, 12:13 PM
Prime Minister of Vanuatu selected a GW Wingle.

On 16 February, Mr. Hon Edward Nipake Natapei, Prime Minister of Vanuatu and Minister of Justice Department purchased a GW Wingle in GWM showroom located in Vila port, the Capital of Vanuatu. This Wingle will be used in the Prime Minster's daily life.

Vanuatu is in the southwest of Pacific, covering an area of only 3947 square kilometers. However, the competition is very severe in the auto market. Currently, 7 Japanese auto brands including Toyota, as well as 4 Korean auto brands including Hyundai already exist in Vanuatu. In 2007, cooperating with the local distributor-Pacific Autronics, GWM entered the market. Today, 58 units GW vehicles were sold here, amongst of which, 19 units are wingle.

GW Wingle was launched in 2007. Thanks to its unique design concept and stylish appearance as well, Wingle becomes the example in the domestic pickup line. It is also popular in the global market. More than 10,000 units Wingle were exported to the world in 2008.

So far, the GW pickup population in the 128 countries and regions is up to 200,000 units. As the largest Chinese pickup exporter, Great Wall Motor Company Limited has maintained the No. 1 export brand in the domestic pickup line for 10 years in a row.

http://s2.mojalbum.com/kitajci-6-foto_4219952_14299293_15130949.jpg
source: GWM

martin_krpan
04-20-2009, 11:12 AM
Wingle was facelifted for 2009 and got new name - A5:
http://www.sinaimg.cn/qc/cz/photo/idx/2009/0420/1240238561_2ohnwV.jpg
http://www.sinaimg.cn/qc/cz/photo/idx/2009/0420/1240238557_3LLfCa.jpg
http://www.sinaimg.cn/qc/cz/photo/idx/2009/0420/1240238569_YSugsy.jpg
http://www.sinaimg.cn/qc/cz/photo/idx/2009/0420/1240238565_7xc2Ol.jpg

http://photo.auto.sina.com.cn/exhi_new/picture.html#19_34925

Luigi Italy
08-07-2009, 04:26 AM
CIAO A TUTTI,

VI MANDO ALCUNE FOTO DEL MIO GWM "STEED".:cool:

Luigi Italy
08-07-2009, 04:34 AM
km fatti 14534
tutto OK:cool:

micodelija
08-07-2009, 06:13 AM
it's really nice pick up with that fashionable orange color

TonyJZX
08-08-2009, 03:30 AM
i admit the nose is less objectionable in that colour since it looks more like a recreational truck rather than a work truck

cuisine
08-08-2009, 07:23 AM
Colour is nice, but I prefer 2009 version look ...

TonyJZX
08-08-2009, 11:06 AM
i prefer the new 2009 nose too - gimme a big 2.0 to 3.0 litre dohc 16v turbo diesel and i'm sold

probably not in production yet as they are selling the old nose around the world

Enrico
08-18-2009, 06:47 AM
km fatti 14534
tutto OK:cool:
Veramente molto bello...anche tu sei un appassionato di GWM in italia...io ho un Hover Sport SL, finora 23.000 km e tutto ok!!1


Io abito in provincia di udine e tu?

cuisine
08-18-2009, 11:23 AM
please english ... :-(

Luigi Italy
08-24-2009, 08:31 AM
Veramente molto bello...anche tu sei un appassionato di GWM in italia...io ho un Hover Sport SL, finora 23.000 km e tutto ok!!1


Io abito in provincia di udine e tu?

Ciao Enrico,

ho scoperto questo forum e mi sono innamorato subiti degli argomenti.
io abito in provincia di brescia e conosco bene gli importatori.
so che sono in arrivo delle importanti novita' x il motor shoow.
ci sentiamo alla prossima.
cordiali saluti Luigi.

Luigi Italy
08-24-2009, 08:35 AM
Hello Enrico,

I discovered this forum and I fell in love sustained arguments.
I live in the province of Brescia and I know the importers.
I know they are coming of important news' x shoow the motor.
We feel the next.
Sincerely Louis.

Enrico
10-06-2009, 08:51 AM
Ciao Enrico,

ho scoperto questo forum e mi sono innamorato subiti degli argomenti.
io abito in provincia di brescia e conosco bene gli importatori.
so che sono in arrivo delle importanti novita' x il motor shoow.
ci sentiamo alla prossima.
cordiali saluti Luigi.


Ciaoi Luigi, scusa il ritardo nella risposta ma non mi ero accorto che avevi scritto...tra ferie e rientro al lavoro ho avuto poco tempo per navigare da queste parti.
Sarei curioso di scoprire le novitŕ attese per il motor show (sfortunatamente GW manca da un paio d'anni). E non ti nascondo che avrei piacere di conoscere gli importatori per esprimere loro i miei complimenti per l'ottimo lavoro....

a presto

V240
11-07-2009, 05:24 AM
Is there any info on the Wingle with the camper on it, I see part of the camper to one side in some of the photos of the Wingle.

What is peoples thoughts on the 2.4l Mitsubishi petrol engine, these look like a nice truck to me

dragin
11-07-2009, 08:19 AM
Hi V20:
Here are a couple of shots of the campers. Wish they could be bigger but CCF hasn't explained how
to do that yet.:) Sorry I can't offer any info but try their website "contact us".

V240
01-07-2010, 10:54 PM
Just wondering what people fit or use for recovery points for snatching the Wingle when your stuck in mud.

Helios
01-13-2010, 04:20 AM
2 Stars (16,49 points out of total 37) ANCAP.

http://carlifeblog.ru/wp-content/gallery/sailorancap/sailorcrash1.jpg

Two pillows shoot, but from the terrible blows of the driver and passenger of the front panel is not saved. The reason is that the reel seat belt is not trivial stalled.


Video --- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_cLz0fUVNnc
Text --- http://carlifeblog.ru/2010/01/13/great-wall-wingle-provalil-krash-test/ (RUS)

:nono: :nono: :nono:

micodelija
01-13-2010, 02:44 PM
i think that test wasn't performed well, because i also have a wingle and my wingle have installed all equipment like sensors for seatbelt and other, maybe this is a differences between models which are sold in europe and in australia, also you shold read more topics before post something like this, you have topic great wall in australia where we discuss about it

V240
01-13-2010, 11:50 PM
Oh cool, I'll have to look for the Great Wall Australia thread/topic then. As to the seat belts I thought they were fixed under warranty in a recall here to the affected models ?

From what I read of the ANCAP testing and the one off faults the saftey rating should really be 3 star I think. Either way it's pretty much on par with most commerical utes/4x4's.

Why do we all rely on safer cars to be the answer, we really should look at better driver training. Most fatal accidents invole someone driving in a unsafe manner or speeding most the time.

Love Krittaya
01-21-2010, 09:53 PM
2 Stars (16,49 points out of total 37) ANCAP.

Two pillows shoot, but from the terrible blows of the driver and passenger of the front panel is not saved. The reason is that the reel seat belt is not trivial stalled.

Video --- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_cLz0fUVNnc
Text --- http://carlifeblog.ru/2010/01/13/great-wall-wingle-provalil-krash-test/ (RUS)

:nono: :nono: :nono:

I think the Wingle is based on Isuzu D-Max. The D-Max got 1.5 stars from EuroNCAP, so I guess result of D-Max and result of Wingle are similar.

TonyJZX
01-21-2010, 10:29 PM
http://www.ancap.com.au/results/300/

3 stars. The D-Max 4x4 scored 5.4 out of 16 in the offset crash test. The passenger compartment held its shape reasonably well. Protection from serious chest injury was poor for the driver and weak for the passenger. Leg protection was marginal for the driver.
The vehicle was awarded a default score of 16 out of 16 in the side impact crash test.

Love Krittaya
01-22-2010, 12:41 AM
Thanks to add link and informations.

D-Max 4x4
http://www.ancap.com.au/site-media/uploaded-media/crash-images/300.jpg
Wingle/V240
http://www.ancap.com.au/site-media/uploaded-media/crash-images/338.jpg

http://www.ancap.com.au/results/338/
http://www.ancap.com.au/results/343/

2 Stars. The V240 scored 2.36 out of 16 in the offset crash test. The passenger compartment did not hold its shape well. Protection from serious head and leg injury was poor for the driver. There was marginal protection for the head of the passenger and chest of the driver. The passenger seat belt failed during the offset crash test. Even if the passenger results had been better the driver's score would have still limited the V240 to a 2-star rating.

The vehicle was awarded a default score of 16 out of 16 in the side impact crash test. However, the low offset score meant that the vehicle was limited to a 2 star rating and an overall score of 16.49 (the maximum available for a 2 star rating).

micodelija
01-22-2010, 03:41 AM
i don't know why people bother so much with this test, nissan navara score just 1 star on euroncap, before nissan made some changes and got 3 stars, to me this ncap, ancap, euroncap, cncap or other simply isn't important, because i am sure that nobody buy a car to him with him into wall, also how big is the chance that you will have the same accident like this simulation in your life???

i had 3 car accident with hover, smaller and bigger and never,apsolutly never nothing happend to me, i also had an car accident with wingle, the bus hit me in rear part of car, also nothing happend to me, if i must have car accident personaly i would like to be in 2 star rated wingle, then in 5 star passenger car

in accident firstly you must have so much luck, secondy...there is also that logic "speed + gross weight + chassis = demolished other car", i simply don't belive that vehicles without chassis can be so safe, especially in suv segment

great wall made very robust and strong vehicles, i will be very careful if i will drive any other chinese pick up or suv, but in great wall i feel 100% safe

tdi
01-22-2010, 08:34 AM
I would prefer that the Wingle would suffer changes to allow it to get a better security rating, but i feel safe when i drive one.

One Wingle was rammed on the side by a skoda octavia at 40 km's per hour.
The Wingle had some minor dents, it was repaired in less than a week without new parts needed.
The skoda its still under repair, and needed over 5.000 euros in parts.

Of Course i know that the main reason is the higher chassis from the wingle allowed it to escape without so much damage

micodelija
01-22-2010, 04:20 PM
yes, this is true, i had the same accidend with hover, the peugeot hit me on side doors driving between 50-60, nothing happend to me, i simply remove my car, while peugeot....was totally broken, even was't able to repair, because cost of repair was too big, so insurance pay a damage to owner

http://i47.tinypic.com/epknev.jpg
by my opinion best quality report is selling, here is result from italy this year, great wall wingle have better sale then all toyota commercial vehicels, this surely tell something, wingle is not bad car, italian market is second market in EU, behind germany

TonyJZX
01-23-2010, 01:50 AM
if you want to sell Chinese vehicles in Western nations, you need to show that they are safe

rightly or wrongly, Chinese vehicles have a reputation for being unsafe

rightly or wrong, the buying public have the perception that a 4 or 5 star ncap vehicle is what is needed

GWM who release a 2/3 star vehicle is not doing anything to allay fears

in this market, perception is reality

here's another perspective... Korean cars had the reputation for being unsafe

back in the late 90's early 00's they made a lot of cars that were 2/3 stars or worse

around the mid 00's they spent a lot of money on safety

now all Korean cars (Hyundai/Kia/Daewoo) are all 5 star

with this Korean companies have enjoyed huge success (even in recession) and are recognised as being world class... Korea also leads in the world in commerical vehicle safety

some people however still continue to perceive Korean cars as being unsafe

this is what China has to do to succeed in Western markets... what they do elsewhere (ie. 3rd world, eastern europe, Asia) is another matter

micodelija
01-23-2010, 06:03 AM
yes, tony this is right, but people will still need time to accept chinese brands, also it's very important that european media write true about them, many time when i read some articles about chinese vehicles they are wrong

sample is c-ncap test, many european media write that this is copy pase of e-ncap but c-ncap is formed just because of that safety problems, now every chinese car company can test their car, also many other brands use this for marketing at chinese market, there is also some cars like chery a5, gelly panda or roewe 550 who also got 5 stars on those test, who even have better results that mercedes c class or ford mondeo, but any european press will not write about it

also for the koreans, they had the same problems in europe, but for now they are on the market for over 10-15 years, and they success, but all of them now have european plants, while chinsese start to build european plans which will be over for 2-3 years, also there is a differenece because people in 1995 didn't expect so much from vehicles like now, people expentations in 2010 are quite big from new vehicles, so chinese will not have so much time to adopt their vehicles, if they import them more they must be right away at that standard, not only in safety, but in quality also

TonyJZX
01-23-2010, 07:08 AM
GWM in my opinion did the right thing trying to import commerical vehicles

the expectation is much lower among workmen

however we have a strong union who are pushing for all work vehicles to be 4 star and above due to work safety laws

i have high hopes for the new 2nd generation Wingle which should have the diesel engines and perhaps better safety

a truck like this like USD$35,000 here

have a look

http://www.isuzuute.com.au/

is GWM can do the same thing for $10,000 less, I think it'll sell well

V240
01-30-2010, 01:23 AM
I wouldn't say the expectation of workmen is lower at all. Commerical needs are just different in most cases to private, safety is important for everyone.

Love Krittaya
02-01-2010, 02:00 AM
to me this ncap, ancap, euroncap, cncap or other simply isn't important, because i am sure that nobody buy a car to him with him into wall, also how big is the chance that you will have the same accident like this simulation in your life???

* D-Max is 1.5 stars score in EuroNCAP crash test
* In Thailand, between 2002 and 2009, more than 1,000,000 D-Maxs are sold
* Some D-Maxs have no airbags (but a tested car has airbags)

(I think) In some countries, its crash test result may not important if the car model is popular before crash test, or branded with a popular car brandname. So I agree with him.

Love Krittaya
02-01-2010, 02:01 AM
to me this ncap, ancap, euroncap, cncap or other simply isn't important, because i am sure that nobody buy a car to him with him into wall, also how big is the chance that you will have the same accident like this simulation in your life???

* D-Max is 1.5 stars score in EuroNCAP crash test
* In Thailand, between 2002 and 2009, more than 1,000,000 D-Maxs are sold
* Some D-Maxs have no airbags
(I think) In some countries, its crash test result may not important if the car model is branded with a popular car brandname.

TonyJZX
02-01-2010, 07:00 PM
I wouldn't say the expectation of workmen is lower at all. Commerical needs are just different in most cases to private, safety is important for everyone.

while this is true in an altruistic sense in the real world, companies will take short cuts on safety if it saves a dollar or if people are buying their own vehicles

i worked for years in construction and companies are loath to pay for $50k Hiluxes if a $30k Holden Rodeo will do just as well

for people like couriers they often use the most unsafe vehicles (like Mitsubishi Express (1 star!) and yet if you buy a $50k Toyota Hiace it isn't much better (3 stars).

The best vehicle is still the 4 star Hyundai iLoad (which is the recommended vehicle by Police and Telstra who have a strong union).

Have a look at how many tradesman pick the cheapest $20k white tray ute because that's all the manufacturers sell.

V240
03-24-2010, 06:27 PM
Anyone know what diff's are used in the V240 (Wingle) and if they are the same as any other ute/cars diffs ? I'm interested to know if there is currently any diff locks that may fit. Would also like to do a 2to 3 inch suspension lift but have no idea what will fit this.

They are still too new in Australia and no-one seems to know much about them.

V240
07-08-2010, 05:06 PM
Not so many people talking about the Wingle now but I did say before I would share photos of mine.

I've had it for 6 months now.

http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j29/Mitcon_SA/V240084c.jpg

http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j29/Mitcon_SA/V240071c.jpg

V240
07-08-2010, 05:07 PM
I have made some changes to the car since so this is how it looks on outside now.

http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j29/Mitcon_SA/V240243c.jpg

http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j29/Mitcon_SA/V240240c.jpg

http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j29/Mitcon_SA/V240267c1.jpg

http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j29/Mitcon_SA/V240294c1.jpg

micodelija
07-08-2010, 05:19 PM
nice photos, really car look ready for the off road:thumb: , but i have some questions, how did you install that front bullbar, this is not an original, from which vehicle you use it? have you remove front bumper or just cut it out? do you have any problems with cooling now? i see on photo that this bullbar close that air holes in front of the bumper

also i want to know, how did you install the snorkel? universal kit or from other cars like isuzu od toyota?

how many km you pass for now, i got diesel 2.8 version, for almost 2 years now, have over 70000 km with it, without any bigger problems

V240
07-08-2010, 06:13 PM
Hi Micodelija,

I looked at and read about your Wingle well before I even bought mine. Sadly we don't get the 2.8 diesel here infact theres no deisel for us yet. I've not done much km in mine as I don't drive it all the time, only drive it for offroad or touring holidays, I have about 12,oookm on it I think.

Car goes well and I've not had any real problems, motor is a little underpowered but does ok. The bullbar was made just for this car by a company here in Australia called ECB.

It's made just for the V240 (Wingle) so it fits perfect, cooling system works fine with it even on days I drive over 40 degrees celcius car doesn't get hot at all. You don;t remove all the front bumper/skirt but have to cut part of it off. The bullbar has air vents in front you can see that direct more cool air to the motor. It's a alloy bar in a powder coat finish.

The snorkel is made just for this car also by a different company called AirFlow but they sell them on eBay as well as in shops. I can find a link to website if you like, I think they sell to other countries.

People in Australia still don't think well of these cars but it's changing as they get to knwo them a little. Still a very new car company to us and people are unsure of cars made in China. I try to tell people they are good cars, over here 4x4 vehicles are very popular as it's a big and very harsh country.

I have put in suspension lift and bashplates under the car as well and you can see the rocksliders (steel side steps) and rear bar I had custom made. I hope to one day get a winch and diff lockers to make it a very good car for offroad but have run out of money lol.

I spent lots on doing up the inside of teh car and making other mods to it.

V240
07-08-2010, 06:16 PM
I have a thread on a 4x4 forum with all the things I have done bit by bit with photos and many people seem to like it there now. I hope Great Wall do well in our country, have you had any problems with rust at all on your Wingle ?

If you want to read about what I do to my Wingle have a look here http://www.4wdaction.com.au/forum/showthread.php?t=82207

micodelija
07-09-2010, 01:43 AM
wow, such a great topic, i will join there and share with you all my expiriance, it's such good 4wd forum, i never found such one

for the rust on vehicle, yes i also have but, but not on paint and other just on chasis, so i did complete chasis protection, it's normal for chinese cars, before 2 years ago we deliver to great wall one great sweden protection kit, and now they put it on new models which are exported to italy, also i sow in on the chinese autoshow that new cars have it, but my suggestion to all will be that you did this protection by yourself, like in china, almost every people when in china buy a new car, they put anti-corrosive protection on them

V240
07-09-2010, 06:58 PM
Look forward to seeing you on there Micodelija, it's a Australian forum but theres no reason people form other countries can't join and share there.

A 4WD is a 4WD no matter where in the world it happens to be lol, lots of great advice and tips for all sorts of things to do with 4WD's and offroading. The forum is run by a 4WD magazine called 4WD Action, great mag to read too.

micodelija
07-10-2010, 03:19 AM
Look forward to seeing you on there Micodelija, it's a Australian forum but theres no reason people form other countries can't join and share there.

A 4WD is a 4WD no matter where in the world it happens to be lol, lots of great advice and tips for all sorts of things to do with 4WD's and offroading. The forum is run by a 4WD magazine called 4WD Action, great mag to read too.

i try to join to that forum, for now i read so much there, wow, australian 4x4 scene is really strong, many people do many changes at the vehicles, they look amazing, i now wait that administrator give me approval for writing, for now i just got a join in email, but still i am waiting for confirmation mail that i can post topics and other

V240
07-10-2010, 05:15 AM
Yeah we do alot of mods to our 4WD's it's a big and very hard country, but it is also a very beautiful country with much wildlife and wonders. I'm sure you will enjoy the forums there though no matter what country your in.

Did they ever end up releasing a petrol Wingle where you are or just the 2.8 diesel? You've had quite a bit to do with GWM vehicles haven't you over the last 2 years ? We now have the Hovers here also, they got a very good safety crash rating which upset Toyota lol :thumb:

micodelija
07-10-2010, 06:19 AM
i drive and had almost every model from great wall, from 2005 year i got first hover, then i had older models like safe and deer (aka 4 runner and hilux) during 2007 year, i also buy new hover in 2007 which was updated with abs and airbags, during 2008 year i also buy wingle and sold older models, i had all type of engines, gasoline or diesel, during my visit in gwm i have drive also the new passenger car vehicles and other, for now in china i visit almost 30 car companies and drive personaly over 300 models of chinese cars, i even drive truck and busses in dongfeng and foton

for the crash test...i personaly had 3 accidents, thank god without any serius injuries, last one was on highway when i fall aslepp and driving over 150 km/h, then i hit the security bumpers and demolished right part of car, my other customer fall in 40m dig and hit the tree, nobody was injured, i had all the photos of that car, they are here at the forum somewhere, car is complety demolished, but all on them were alive, i also was in great wall crash test lab:
http://img682.imageshack.us/img682/4278/pc085585.jpg
here is a photo from inside, also i personaly sow some tests, really amazing

Trevor TR090
07-11-2010, 04:42 AM
CIAO A TUTTI,

VI MANDO ALCUNE FOTO DEL MIO GWM "STEED".:cool:
Thank you for the pictures. Do you have a LPG system that is used by GWM???

Trevor TR090
07-11-2010, 04:53 AM
i try to join to that forum, for now i read so much there, wow, australian 4x4 scene is really strong, many people do many changes at the vehicles, they look amazing, i now wait that administrator give me approval for writing, for now i just got a join in email, but still i am waiting for confirmation mail that i can post topics and other

Yes and another Australian is thankful for your contrubution to the Forum.
When I receive my (V240 Dualcab) I shall post it so as you can see that it is the same as yours-except for colour & RHD. Have you any other members that you know of that have LPG system fitted by GWM.
Regards Trevor TR090

micodelija
07-11-2010, 12:23 PM
hi trevor and welcome to the forum
yes i have lpg sistem on my hover (x240), it have 4g64 engine which is mainly indetical to 4g69 which is used in v240, you can "surf" thru the forum, i put so many photos of my car there, if you can't find i can post some photos again

i use italian AG LPG sistem, it's very good and my car passed for now with it over 100.000 km, i have bottle on chasis which is 70 liters capacity, sistem is regular for mpi engines, so it work without any problems

V240
07-12-2010, 01:26 AM
Nice photo Micodelija, I'm sure many Australians will look forward to your input.

Trevor, Australian gas warehouse has a LPG system for the V240 here in Australia but at the moment I think thats the only system. Ask your local LPG fitter for a price, if they say theres nothing tell them to ask or look at AGW's website

Trevor TR090
07-12-2010, 04:06 AM
hi trevor and welcome to the forum
yes i have lpg sistem on my hover (x240), it have 4g64 engine which is mainly indetical to 4g69 which is used in v240, you can "surf" thru the forum, i put so many photos of my car there, if you can't find i can post some photos again

i use italian AG LPG sistem, it's very good and my car passed for now with it over 100.000 km, i have bottle on chasis which is 70 liters capacity, sistem is regular for mpi engines, so it work without any problems

Thank you again for your most informative information.GWM Aust. say that I must not fit LPG because it will viod the warranty.Was your warranty altered or
didn't you fit LPG until after the time period.
thank you again Regards Trevor

dragin
07-12-2010, 09:41 AM
...... i have lpg sistem on my hover (x240),......

i use italian AG LPG sistem, it's very good and my car passed for now with it over 100.000 km, i have bottle on chasis which is 70 liters capacity, sistem is regular for mpi engines, so it work without any pWroblems

Hi Micodelija:
You say that the LPG system is very good and I'm sure that it is economical to run.
But can you comment about the disadvantages of it, when compared to the petrol model?
We have all heard about things like starting problems under certain weather conditions, lack of power, etc.. Could you elaborate on your opinion of the performance.
Thanks

micodelija
07-13-2010, 02:20 AM
first of all most important is to pick quality LPG sistem, you have many italians and other makers, like lovato, landi renzo, tommaseto, brc,omvl and others, there is also good and quality dutch model prince or AG

also very important is that when you choose the LPG sistem, you must choose a right one for your engine specifications, many times because it's cheaper people choose a wrong sistem for their car, so they are having problems

there is no any problems with lpg during any weather conditions, this should not have any effect, my car work fine during hot summer or cold winter, no matter what, problem can be if you don't have regular maintance, mainly you must check the ECU of lpg to check the parameters and replace the filter for it, also you can use aditives which can provide better work of your lpg injectors

there is a small lost on power, mainly in acceleration of car, also fuel consuption is little bit higher when you compare it with driving on gasoline, but cost is cheaper, so there is still room for benefit, also my car didn't lost anything on driving skills, i can drive 180 km/h on highway on lpg, the same like on gasoline

here is just a sample, we have put some lovato lpg sistem on hover, but it didn't work so good on cars, car was much slower and there was problem with too big consuption of lpg, then we try to omvl and landi renzo sistems, car work much better, because they offer more expensive sistem which is better adopted to our engines, the same is with BRC, many models of GWM in italy have BRC sistem and work very good, most important is to buy a sistem which is best to your engine specification, and you must have a service in which you can thrust that they will told you good information, not just one to sold you the sistem,no, important is that the sistem which you buy is approved by manifacture for the engine, usually you can also find a list of engines which is supported

Trevor TR090
07-13-2010, 07:55 AM
first of all most important is to pick quality LPG sistem, you have many italians and other makers, like lovato, landi renzo, tommaseto, brc,omvl and others, there is also good and quality dutch model prince or AG

also very important is that when you choose the LPG sistem, you must choose a right one for your engine specifications, many times because it's cheaper people choose a wrong sistem for their car, so they are having problems

there is no any problems with lpg during any weather conditions, this should not have any effect, my car work fine during hot summer or cold winter, no matter what, problem can be if you don't have regular maintance, mainly you must check the ECU of lpg to check the parameters and replace the filter for it, also you can use aditives which can provide better work of your lpg injectors

there is a small lost on power, mainly in acceleration of car, also fuel consuption is little bit higher when you compare it with driving on gasoline, but cost is cheaper, so there is still room for benefit, also my car didn't lost anything on driving skills, i can drive 180 km/h on highway on lpg, the same like on gasoline

here is just a sample, we have put some lovato lpg sistem on hover, but it didn't work so good on cars, car was much slower and there was problem with too big consuption of lpg, then we try to omvl and landi renzo sistems, car work much better, because they offer more expensive sistem which is better adopted to our engines, the same is with BRC, many models of GWM in italy have BRC sistem and work very good, most important is to buy a sistem which is best to your engine specification, and you must have a service in which you can thrust that they will told you good information, not just one to sold you the sistem,no, important is that the sistem which you buy is approved by manifacture for the engine, usually you can also find a list of engines which is supported Thank you for the information Regards Trevor TR090

V240
07-13-2010, 04:36 PM
For the Aussie's interested in LPG this is the only system I know of approved for use on the V240 (wingle) in Australia currently.

http://www.australianlpgwarehouse.com.au/Latest-News/The-Great-Wall-V240.aspx

Can't tell you anything about quality or how well the V240 runs with it as I haven't heard anyone using LPG on them here yet. As to your new car warranty you will have to take that up with your Great Wall dealer.

But it shouldn't void a warranty, if you have something brake or fault directly because of the LPG unit or installation then Great Wall doesn't need to cover it but maybe the LPG installer/company will cover it if it's related to their work. If you really want to know if your covered or not check with your local comsumer rights authority

dragin
07-14-2010, 09:22 AM
Thanks for the feedback about the LPG Micodelija. I wonder why Chinese manufacturers are not doing more to promote it, since it seems the environment-focused government would support its development.
So far the only manufacturer who has seriously promoted LPG, that I know of, is Geely in its Vision LPG model.

geralilio
07-20-2010, 12:38 AM
Hello Everyone!

I was taking pictures of the Wingle when I found this part under the rear wheels:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/gwcars/4811517592/

Would you know what this is?

Thanks! :D

cuisine
07-20-2010, 02:45 PM
Braking force regulator .... ... use part number from photo and google ... http://kitparts.ru/catalog-great-wall/page/14/

geralilio
07-20-2010, 10:09 PM
thanks cuisine! so is this for ABS/EBD?

V240
08-02-2010, 07:43 PM
Just wondering if anyone has any information on the front and rear differential's and axle splines in the Wingle with the 2.4L gasoline motor? I'd really like to see if there is any diff locks that will fit this pickup.

I have seen short video's of the Hover with diff locks, awesome traction.

syche
08-02-2010, 08:44 PM
Hi V240

the front axle should be an isuzu 10 bolts 17 splines, and the rear a toyota 8" with 45mm bearing 30 splines.

For the rear you can fit almost anything, but i recommand a detroit truetrac, really a nice diff.

For the front..you don't have much choice, maybe ARB or a company in the US get custom made autolocker, but...on an all rounder i would not go that way, just a treutrac in the rear.

V240
08-02-2010, 09:04 PM
Thanks Syche,

Being a IFS vehicle I'd really like to do the front as well if I can find anything to fit it as it's very easy to lift a wheel. I think the vids I saw of a Hover with a diff lock was the Truetrac, and if I can afford them would be my first choice. I'm also looking at some local made auto lockers here in Australia which are alot cheaper than the Detroits.

Calebslove
11-24-2010, 07:12 PM
Hi I am from Rarotonga, Cook Islands and I purchased a Greatwall Wingle (Brand New) from our Cook Islands Greatwall Distributor 2 and a half years ago (Raro Cars, Avarua, Rarotonga). Just after the 1 year warranty expired, we have been having so many problems with the truck. We have had to replace so many parts in such a short life time of the vehicle. Is anyone able to tell me how I can make contact with the actual people who manufacture these trucks as I have been searching for so long to try and make contact with them but have had no luck.

daewoo-chevrolet
04-08-2011, 10:31 AM
Great Wall will present refreshed Wingle at Auto China Shanghai 2011:

http://m2.auto.itc.cn/car/1200/53/72/Img747253_1200.jpg

Source: http://auto.sohu.com/20110408/n305491639_3.shtml

cuisine
04-09-2011, 05:39 AM
I was looking for the Great Wall during my visit to Geneva Motor Show this year. He was not there. It's a shame. I would like very familiar with the entire current production GWM :nono:

TonyJZX
04-09-2011, 12:37 PM
that front end looks straight off a VW golf

those pics auto.sohu clearly shows an SOHC motor with a little turbo

what's the go on that one?

daewoo-chevrolet
04-18-2011, 10:11 AM
Official photo:

http://img4.bitautoimg.com/autoalbum/files/20110415/977/17580097709793_1544843_3.jpg

cuisine
04-19-2011, 01:35 PM
interesting ... better than before ...

cuisine
04-19-2011, 01:48 PM
http://auto.sina.com.cn/shanghaichezhan/2011hall/sub_brands928/
http://www.360che.com/m28/7041_index.html

http://www.sinaimg.cn/qc/photo_auto/chezhan/2011/42/01/55/19554_950.jpg

http://img.360che.com/imgc/800x532/0/74/74711.jpg

http://img.360che.com/imgc/800x532/0/74/74710.jpg

http://img.360che.com/imgc/800x532/0/74/74689.jpg

phaeton
04-24-2011, 09:36 PM
Australia has just received that last facelift now another one 2012MY?? :D

VW design for sure, all the Wingles have had VW design in the front.

Wingle = VW Magellan concept
Wingle facelift 1 = Golf Mk5
Wingle facelift 2 = Golf Mk6

martin_krpan
05-05-2011, 10:00 AM
Great Wall Wingle 5:
http://pic.auto.163.com/autopic/index.html?url=http://pic.auto.163.com/autopic/ckindex/topicid=3RET0008,setid=139333.html
http://www.360che.com/m25/6462_index.html
http://car.autohome.com.cn/pic/series/2462.html


http://s2.mojalbum.com/avto7-foto_4219952_17450250_18710055.jpg

http://s2.mojalbum.com/avto7-foto_4219952_17450250_18710057.jpg

http://s2.mojalbum.com/avto7-foto_4219952_17450250_18710058.jpg

http://s2.mojalbum.com/avto7-foto_4219952_17450250_18710060.jpg

martin_krpan
05-05-2011, 10:01 AM
http://s2.mojalbum.com/avto7-foto_4219952_17450250_18710059.jpg

http://s2.mojalbum.com/avto7-foto_4219952_17450250_18710062.jpg

http://s2.mojalbum.com/avto7-foto_4219952_17450250_18710063.jpg

http://s2.mojalbum.com/avto7-foto_4219952_17450250_18710061.jpg

Joest
05-05-2011, 12:17 PM
With the new front, it looks less "VW-ish"

martin_krpan
05-05-2011, 01:03 PM
Joest shown on above pictures is 'old' Wingle which debuted back in 2009.
Wingle with VW inspired face which was presented at Shanghai Auto Show is not availabale yet.

micodelija
05-12-2011, 03:42 AM
http://www4.picturepush.com/photo/a/5637982/img/5637982.jpg
http://www1.picturepush.com/photo/a/5638004/img/5638004.jpg
http://www1.picturepush.com/photo/a/5639664/img/5639664.jpg
wingle 3 is the same, here is only some tuning equipment and new DVD entertainment system inside

micodelija
05-12-2011, 03:43 AM
http://www1.picturepush.com/photo/a/5639669/img/5639669.jpg
this is wingle 5, TDI, with diesel engine, 110 kw and 6 speed manual transmission, very nice to drive :thumb:, i hope that such powerful diesel will be in hover soon

kyton
06-02-2011, 01:00 AM
Anyone know what the 2.4 MPI Petrol motor on the steed is like. Looking at maybe getting one. also what is the fuel consumption like?

micodelija
06-06-2011, 08:22 AM
Anyone know what the 2.4 MPI Petrol motor on the steed is like. Looking at maybe getting one. also what is the fuel consumption like?

it's mitsubishi engine, 4g69, work very well, have 93 kw, which is more then enough,fuel consumption is between 9 and 12 liters, depend of driving, is it city our suburb, also you can very easy install LPG system

tdi
06-11-2011, 07:45 AM
http://www1.picturepush.com/photo/a/5639669/img/5639669.jpg
this is wingle 5, TDI, with diesel engine, 110 kw and 6 speed manual transmission, very nice to drive :thumb:, i hope that such powerful diesel will be in hover soon

great wall italy sponsors theBrescia football team? :thumb:

micodelija
06-11-2011, 02:54 PM
yes....italian importer have very good promotion and advertising, especially in sport, however brescia was relegated this year in serie B, pitty, but I hope that they will continue to promote cars thru football, cars and football always goes together :thumb:

martin_krpan
06-15-2011, 12:38 PM
Great Wall Steed 5 for Italy:
http://es.autoblog.com/2011/06/14/great-wall-lanza-en-italia-el-nuevo-steed5/

http://s2.mojalbum.com/avto8-foto_4219952_17454557_18825869.jpg

http://s2.mojalbum.com/avto8-foto_4219952_17454557_18825871.jpg

http://s2.mojalbum.com/avto8-foto_4219952_17454557_18825870.jpg

Prices start at 17.700 €.

kyton
07-15-2011, 08:04 AM
got 400km on 61L in town driving on the 2.4i D/c 2x4. 6.5km/l I feel it is a bit heavy. dealership said that the plug gap was wrong when they did the 10000km service. i was hoping for at lease 8.5kml in town.

syche
08-10-2011, 08:47 AM
HI All

Does anyone know when this new Wingle A5 will be released in China?

I am thinking to swap my Hover H3 for a wingle, and this one just look sweet:thumb:

syche
08-12-2011, 05:46 AM
:talking:so nobody has any inputs about this new wingle 5 new face:rolleyes:?

paulbe
08-13-2011, 07:57 PM
I do. It looks nicer but trades away a bit of quirky distinctiveness.

syche
08-14-2011, 07:55 PM
Hi All

I went to my local dealer where i bought my Hover, he says he is not quite sure but it should come out in october or november, let see:).

By the way, i tried the wingle 5 with 2.8l comonrail and normal injection pump, they are both kind of lazy for 2.8L td.

They seems based on the isuzu 4jb1t just some slight evolution of it.

Does anyone have tried some chip tunning for the comonrail version? Should be possible to get descent power out of it?:rolleyes:

martin_krpan
04-28-2012, 01:53 AM
Wingle5 @ 2012 Beijing:
http://car.autohome.com.cn/pic/series-s1001011/2462.html

http://s2.mojalbum.com/4219952_17555777_19645138/avt019/19645138.jpg
http://car.autohome.com.cn/photo/1001011/1/100016051.html

http://s2.mojalbum.com/4219952_17555777_19645137/avt019/19645137.jpg
http://car.autohome.com.cn/photo/1001011/1/100016049.html

http://s2.mojalbum.com/4219952_17555777_19645136/avt019/19645136.jpg
http://car.autohome.com.cn/photo/1001011/1/100016046.html

http://s2.mojalbum.com/4219952_17555777_19645135/avt019/19645135.jpg
http://car.autohome.com.cn/photo/1001011/10/100016045.html

micodelija
07-22-2012, 05:08 PM
http://www1.picturepush.com/photo/a/8794399/img/8794399.jpg
http://www1.picturepush.com/photo/a/8794394/img/8794394.jpg
http://www4.picturepush.com/photo/a/8794397/img/8794397.jpg
http://www5.picturepush.com/photo/a/8794398/img/8794398.jpg
amazing tuning colors for steed 5 tdi

micodelija
07-22-2012, 05:50 PM
http://www5.picturepush.com/photo/a/8794913/img/8794913.jpg
http://www1.picturepush.com/photo/a/8794919/img/8794919.jpg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hUDD2gMhGh4
steed was also used by hunting crew of ian harford, which got they own youtube tv channel called "team wild tv"

jvpe67
03-14-2013, 04:44 AM
http://product.auto.163.com/2012gz/series/16562.html

saffara
03-26-2013, 11:32 AM
hi, i'm saffara from malaysia, i bought myself a brand new wingle 5 august last year (2012) and driving it everyday to work. But recently my wheels are out of alignment. i took it to 5 wheel alignment shop already but the problem still not fixed.

those shop use computerized alignment system. problem is, none of the shop has the data for wingle 5 wheel alignment, so they use isuzu's d-max data instead as they said wingle 5's undercarriage are very similar to dmax. but this never solve my wingle 5 wheel alignment problem..

so, if anybody here can provide me the data (specifications; such as caster angle, camber angle, toe in/out etc) for wingle 5 wheel alignment, i'll be very thankful.. cheers.. thanks.

-saffara-

martin_krpan
06-25-2013, 03:49 AM
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http://s2.mojalbum.com/4219952_17714343_20882039/album-31/20882039.jpg

http://auto.163.com/photoview/3RET0008/158371/924NNF8I3RET0008.html
http://auto.163.com/photoview/3RET0008/158371/924NN8VL3RET0008.html
http://auto.163.com/photoview/3RET0008/158371/924NNEOV3RET0008.html

martin_krpan
06-25-2013, 03:51 AM
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more:
http://pic.auto.163.com/autopic/ckindex/topicid=3RET0008,setid=158371.html#top
http://pic.auto.163.com/autopic/ckindex/topicid=3RET0008,setid=0.html#top

martin_krpan
09-21-2013, 04:49 AM
Malaysian distributor of GW vehicles presented special version of locally assembled Wingle for named Wingle 5 Premium X:
http://paultan.org/2013/09/06/great-wall-wingle-5-premium-x-debuts-rm69k/

Many items visible at show car such as black 16-inch wheels, aggressive off-road rear bumper and a pair of Hella spotlights are part of Premium X optional extra equipment. But even the basic car is loaded with equipment (leather seats, reverse sensor, alarm system, front nudge bar, sports bar over the rear deck and aluminium side step bars for example)

http://s2.mojalbum.com/4219952_17739445_21115011/album-34/21115011.jpg

http://s2.mojalbum.com/4219952_17739445_21115012/album-34/21115012.jpg