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Raul
05-22-2006, 07:18 AM
Hafei Lobo crash tested in Russia. Speed was 56,5 km/h.

Here are some pictures:

http://www.supercars.net/pitlane/pics/2469229a.jpg
http://www.supercars.net/pitlane/pics/2469229b.jpg
http://www.supercars.net/pitlane/pics/2469229c.jpg
http://www.supercars.net/pitlane/pics/2469229e.jpg

Admin
05-22-2006, 10:38 PM
how does this fair compared to other cars in russia?

gr8
05-22-2006, 10:59 PM
looks like a good result, but i dont think thats the same crash as the one done with the QQ and landwind. i think the QQ and Landwind are both 60km/h and is a head on one. the crash with the lobo looks to be hit only on the drivers side. but hey for such a new company that looks pretty darn good. :)

proximal
05-23-2006, 12:33 AM
An offset crash puts greater strain on the structure of a car than a full-width collision.

oo4load
05-23-2006, 05:01 AM
This 56km/h offset test is (looks like) a legislation specs test. If the car meets these requirements it's EU road legal.

The QQ and Landwind tests were done at 64km/h and are also offset. Those tests are EURO-NCAP spec. (the QQ did reasonably well, better than the chevy spark/daewoo matiz, but suffered from the lack of an airbag)

The extra 10km/h of the NCAP test makes quite a difference in crash energy, the Lobo wouldn't look so hot in one of those tests.
The 10km/h increase in speed results in 40% increase in crash energy!

Why do you ask, well the 'energy' of the crash is related to "speed squared":

0.5 * mass * speed squared...

So 20% extra speed = 40% extra energy.

gr8
05-25-2006, 01:24 PM
lots of physics comming in here, hey oo4load are you talking about the kinetic energy= 0.5mvsquared? i dont think its that simple though, theres alot to do with the conservation of momentum and total mechanical energy, and lots of friction stuff when the car jumps back on its tires. if it was that simple cars would never fail crash test.

gr8
05-25-2006, 01:25 PM
oh yea sorry about the offset crash stuff, i guess i just didnt remeber too clearly

oo4load
05-26-2006, 12:59 AM
Sorry need 10 posts ;)

oo4load
05-26-2006, 12:59 AM
Of course it's not easy to design a crash proof car, but that 40% extra kinetic energy is a simple fact.
It simply illustrates that the 'small' difference in speed has a significantly reduced impact severity.

It looks like the safety of Chinese cars is improving rapidly though, more so than that of Chevrolet/Daewoo cars for sale in europe who haven't managed to improve the 1 star rating of the 1997 Daewoo Lanos by the 2006 Aveo :eek:
http://www.euroncap.com/images/results/small_family_cars/car_250_2006/Chevrolet%20Aveo%20Datasheet%203.pdf

fightingtorque
05-26-2006, 01:19 AM
no wonder he crashed - driver had his eyes taped over!

DOS
05-26-2006, 04:41 PM
This 56km/h offset test is (looks like) a legislation specs test. If the car meets these requirements it's EU road legal.
From what I see in the pictures, the frame did not deform too much, but looks can be deceiving, so in actuality how high of a ranking did this vehicle receive?

oo4load
05-27-2006, 02:49 AM
For the legislation tests cars don't get a ranking. They either fail or pass.

This is obviously a pass, (unless the seatbelts didn't function) but keep in mind that the legislation tests are easy to pass compared to getting a decent EURO-NCAP score...

For a nice discussion on EU legislation rules and recommended improvements see:

http://www.etsc.be/oldsite/mvdesign.pdf (from page 25)

DOS
05-27-2006, 12:44 PM
Yes, I know that there isn't a ranking system for the legislation tests, so I was actually asking, if this had been the outcome of the EURO-NCAP test how would the car have ranked, and based on this test how do people think the actual car would perform, on the EURO-NCAP.

oo4load
05-27-2006, 02:30 PM
That's impossible to guess from this picture.

An in-crash picture of the vehicle (at 64km/h), showing deformation of the cabin can give a rough estimate. If the cabin is crushed, contact with the steering wheel is likely which is always bad news for the score.

The E-NCAP score is based on various aspects, mainly the dummy loading during front and side impact tests. Points can be deducted for things like excessive movement of a pillar/steering wheel and hard structures near the legs.


But seeing how Kia and Daewoo are doing I don't think a chinese car (not designed for the NCAP test) will be awarded more than 1 or 2 stars.

egytuner
09-06-2006, 12:06 AM
http://img96.imageshack.us/img96/5391/01173714775uu7.jpg
http://img83.imageshack.us/img83/6467/01222915426415269hf5.jpg
http://img96.imageshack.us/img96/7828/01222915426bp9.jpg
http://img96.imageshack.us/img96/5702/030723lubao03ti8.jpg

egytuner
09-06-2006, 12:11 AM
http://img96.imageshack.us/img96/1136/1076274231610fq4.jpg
http://img96.imageshack.us/img96/2071/brio17030606gl2.jpg
http://img83.imageshack.us/img83/5855/01225615455pl9.jpg
http://img155.imageshack.us/img155/5817/brio17030622gw3.jpg

egytuner
09-06-2006, 12:16 AM
http://img58.imageshack.us/img58/2050/01230915491xu4.jpg
http://img58.imageshack.us/img58/5813/brio17030628ah8.jpg
http://img58.imageshack.us/img58/6355/dsc0026pj7.jpg
http://img58.imageshack.us/img58/4061/1086107872gz3.jpg

more at:
http://www.chinamobil.ru/hafei/brio/?view=photos
http://car.autohome.com.cn/pic/series/67.html

egytuner
01-09-2007, 09:45 AM
I don't know if these were posted b4, thought i'd share them...
It feels stronger than what i had in mind.

http://img180.imageshack.us/img180/6592/brio1bva4.jpg
http://img180.imageshack.us/img180/548/brio2bet2.jpg
http://img405.imageshack.us/img405/4095/brio3blo5.jpg

egytuner
01-09-2007, 09:46 AM
http://img142.imageshack.us/img142/4201/brio4bdx6.jpg
http://img157.imageshack.us/img157/8175/brio5bmh9.jpg

cryptonx
01-10-2007, 02:10 AM
it certianly do but why is he KISSING his head ? :D
http://img142.imageshack.us/img142/4201/brio4bdx6.jpg

daewoo-chevrolet
03-17-2007, 07:46 AM
2007 Hafei Lubao / Lobo:

http://s2.mojalbum.com/kitajci-38-foto_4219952_17421871_18399193.jpg
http://photocdn.sohu.com/20070228/Img248415562.jpg

http://s2.mojalbum.com/kitajci-38-foto_4219952_17421871_18399194.jpg
http://photocdn.sohu.com/20070228/Img248415563.jpg

http://s2.mojalbum.com/kitajci-38-foto_4219952_17421871_18399195.jpg
http://photocdn.sohu.com/20070228/Img248415565.jpg

daewoo-chevrolet
03-17-2007, 07:47 AM
With Mario and Luigi :D

http://s2.mojalbum.com/kitajci-38-foto_4219952_17421871_18399192.jpg
http://photocdn.sohu.com/20070228/Img248415307.jpg

http://auto.sohu.com/


And this is how all started - Hafei HF2
http://s2.mojalbum.com/4219952_17521675_19387317/avt015/19387317.jpg
http://www.chinamobil.ru/photo/HafLobo/full/hf-loborr.jpg

martin_krpan
03-20-2007, 01:56 PM
Hafei Lobo is also being produced in Malaysia by Naza under the name Sutera:
http://img65.imageshack.us/img65/7861/su8fc4.jpg
http://img144.imageshack.us/img144/8201/su5dw0.jpg


and in Sri Lanka as Micro Trend:
http://s2.mojalbum.com/avtomobilizem-foto_4219952_4641521_7042260.jpg
http://s2.mojalbum.com/avtomobilizem-foto_4219952_4641521_7042263.jpg

martin_krpan
09-01-2007, 05:16 AM
Some more pictures of Lobo facelift:
http://s2.mojalbum.com/kitajci-foto_4219952_7117451_9185863.jpg
http://s2.mojalbum.com/kitajci-foto_4219952_7117451_9185860.jpg
http://s2.mojalbum.com/kitajci-foto_4219952_7117451_9185856.jpg
http://s2.mojalbum.com/kitajci-foto_4219952_7117451_9185866.jpg

daewoo-chevrolet
09-22-2007, 03:06 PM
Hafei Lobo/Lubao Cross-version:

http://s2.mojalbum.com/kitajci-24-foto_4219952_17406598_18180239.jpg
http://img.autohome.com.cn/Shows/2007/9/21/car-21-23-8-27-168951530.jpg
http://s2.mojalbum.com/kitajci-24-foto_4219952_17406598_18180238.jpg
http://img.autohome.com.cn/Shows/2007/9/21/car-21-23-8-27-130783131.jpg
http://s2.mojalbum.com/kitajci-24-foto_4219952_17406598_18180240.jpg
http://img.autohome.com.cn/Shows/2007/9/21/car-21-23-8-28-433947405.jpg
http://s2.mojalbum.com/kitajci-24-foto_4219952_17406598_18180241.jpg
http://img.autohome.com.cn/Shows/2007/9/21/car-21-23-8-28-472115804.jpg

daewoo-chevrolet
09-22-2007, 03:09 PM
http://s2.mojalbum.com/kitajci-24-foto_4219952_17406598_18180243.jpg
http://img.autohome.com.cn/Shows/2007/9/21/car-21-23-8-34-667300544.jpg
http://s2.mojalbum.com/kitajci-24-foto_4219952_17406598_18180242.jpg
http://img.autohome.com.cn/Shows/2007/9/21/car-21-23-8-31-883259611.jpg
http://s2.mojalbum.com/kitajci-24-foto_4219952_17406598_18180244.jpg
http://autopic.sohu.com/auto_images/photolib/78/97/Img89778_middle.jpg


Source: http://www.autohome.com.cn/ / http://auto.sohu.com/

martin_krpan
09-22-2007, 05:03 PM
Looks fine. Is this only a concept car or already production version?

martin_krpan
01-05-2008, 09:56 AM
Hafei Lobo is also being produced in Malaysia by Naza under the name Sutera and in Sri Lanka as Micro Trend

Hafei Minyi is also assembled in Sri lanka by Micro under the name Mini Van.

Hafei Minyi:
http://s2.mojalbum.com/avtomobilizem-foto_4219952_4641521_6270824.jpg
http://s2.mojalbum.com/avtomobilizem-foto_4219952_4641521_6270821.jpg

Micro Mini Van:
http://s2.mojalbum.com/avtomobilizem-foto_4219952_4641521_6270818.jpg

martin_krpan
01-26-2008, 05:53 AM
Real pictures of Lobo facelift:
http://s2.mojalbum.com/kitajci-3-foto_4219952_10796317_10802916.jpg

http://s2.mojalbum.com/kitajci-3-foto_4219952_10796317_10802899.jpg

http://s2.mojalbum.com/kitajci-3-foto_4219952_10796317_10802904.jpg

http://s2.mojalbum.com/kitajci-3-foto_4219952_10796317_10802892.jpg

martin_krpan
01-26-2008, 05:54 AM
http://s2.mojalbum.com/kitajci-3-foto_4219952_10796317_10802907.jpg

http://s2.mojalbum.com/kitajci-3-foto_4219952_10796317_10802913.jpg

http://s2.mojalbum.com/kitajci-3-foto_4219952_10796317_10802885.jpg

http://s2.mojalbum.com/kitajci-3-foto_4219952_10796317_10802861.jpg

martin_krpan
01-26-2008, 05:55 AM
http://s2.mojalbum.com/kitajci-3-foto_4219952_10796317_10802867.jpg

http://s2.mojalbum.com/kitajci-3-foto_4219952_10796317_10802858.jpg

http://s2.mojalbum.com/kitajci-3-foto_4219952_10796317_10802855.jpg

http://s2.mojalbum.com/kitajci-3-foto_4219952_10796317_10802910.jpg

pics:
http://car.autohome.com.cn/pic/series/67.html
http://db.auto.sohu.com/model-1248.shtml
http://photo.bitauto.com/serial/2233/

hamdydr
02-05-2008, 11:22 AM
the dealer of lobo in egypt semi dead

ash
02-05-2008, 04:43 PM
y he is not making any sales for lobo?

martin_krpan
07-26-2008, 03:04 PM
Hafei Lobo 1.1:
http://www.autohome.com.cn/advice/200807/42748-1.html
http://car.autohome.com.cn/pic/series-s4129/67.html?pvareaid=100635


http://s2.mojalbum.com/kitajci-4-foto_4219952_11803055_12953136.jpg

http://s2.mojalbum.com/kitajci-4-foto_4219952_11803055_12953133.jpg

http://s2.mojalbum.com/kitajci-4-foto_4219952_11803055_12953130.jpg

http://s2.mojalbum.com/kitajci-4-foto_4219952_11803055_12953127.jpg

martin_krpan
07-26-2008, 03:05 PM
http://s2.mojalbum.com/kitajci-4-foto_4219952_11803055_12953110.jpg

http://s2.mojalbum.com/kitajci-4-foto_4219952_11803055_12953124.jpg

http://s2.mojalbum.com/kitajci-4-foto_4219952_11803055_12953115.jpg

http://s2.mojalbum.com/kitajci-4-foto_4219952_11803055_12953121.jpg

martin_krpan
07-26-2008, 03:05 PM
http://s2.mojalbum.com/kitajci-4-foto_4219952_11803055_12953118.jpg

http://s2.mojalbum.com/kitajci-4-foto_4219952_11803055_12953090.jpg

http://s2.mojalbum.com/kitajci-4-foto_4219952_11803055_12953079.jpg

http://s2.mojalbum.com/kitajci-4-foto_4219952_11803055_12953073.jpg

mobilespeed
08-25-2008, 01:46 AM
Hafei Lobo is also being produced in Malaysia by Naza under the name Sutera..


yup...a joint venture with Naza Motors to produced a RHD version since Hafei didn't produced a RHD model...and this is a second automobile company that Naza joint-ventured after Kia Motors from Korea...

Naza even enhanced it with some styling with it...like the Sutera Sportivo

but cannot put the image here...need 10 post more..:D

dragin
08-25-2008, 08:57 AM
[QUOTE=martin_krpan]/QUOTE]

From this point of view, the unfinished appearance and the color
mis-matches leave something to be desired. I expect more of Hafei, which usually displays better attention to detail.

martin_krpan
09-24-2008, 06:03 AM
Lobo Cross:
http://s2.mojalbum.com/kitajci-5-foto_4219952_13082292_13662695.jpg

http://s2.mojalbum.com/kitajci-5-foto_4219952_13082292_13662692.jpg

http://s2.mojalbum.com/kitajci-5-foto_4219952_13082292_13662689.jpg

http://s2.mojalbum.com/kitajci-5-foto_4219952_13082292_13662661.jpg

martin_krpan
09-24-2008, 06:05 AM
http://s2.mojalbum.com/kitajci-5-foto_4219952_13082292_13662684.jpg

http://s2.mojalbum.com/kitajci-5-foto_4219952_13082292_13662680.jpg

http://s2.mojalbum.com/kitajci-5-foto_4219952_13082292_13662675.jpg

http://s2.mojalbum.com/kitajci-5-foto_4219952_13082292_13662668.jpg

nikol69
11-06-2008, 03:12 PM
HA HA HA
REAL FUNNY .....:mad:

martin_krpan
12-12-2008, 09:19 AM
Hafei Lobo 1.1 with higher trim level:

http://s2.mojalbum.com/kitajci-6-foto_4219952_14299293_14413273.jpg

http://s2.mojalbum.com/kitajci-6-foto_4219952_14299293_14413270.jpg

http://s2.mojalbum.com/kitajci-6-foto_4219952_14299293_14413247.jpg

http://s2.mojalbum.com/kitajci-6-foto_4219952_14299293_14413267.jpg

martin_krpan
12-12-2008, 09:21 AM
http://s2.mojalbum.com/kitajci-6-foto_4219952_14299293_14413258.jpg

http://s2.mojalbum.com/kitajci-6-foto_4219952_14299293_14413264.jpg

http://s2.mojalbum.com/kitajci-6-foto_4219952_14299293_14413261.jpg

http://s2.mojalbum.com/kitajci-6-foto_4219952_14299293_14413244.jpg


more:
http://car.autohome.com.cn/pic/series-s4732/67.html?pvareaid=100635

martin_krpan
12-15-2008, 11:59 PM
Review at Autohome:
http://www.autohome.com.cn/drive/200812/51557-1.html

martin_krpan
09-21-2009, 11:02 AM
Lobo Cross @ Chengdu Auto Show:
http://piclib.pcauto.com.cn/cars/image/s13899-214215-1.html


http://s2.mojalbum.com/kitajci-7-foto_4219952_15407128_17121333.jpg

http://s2.mojalbum.com/kitajci-7-foto_4219952_15407128_17121330.jpg

http://s2.mojalbum.com/kitajci-7-foto_4219952_15407128_17121326.jpg

http://s2.mojalbum.com/kitajci-7-foto_4219952_15407128_17121323.jpg

martin_krpan
04-12-2010, 10:18 AM
Hafei is preparing another facelift for Lobo:
http://auto.sina.com.cn/car/2010-04-12/0851588227.shtml

http://i3.sinaimg.cn/qc/2010/0412/201041284659.jpg
http://i3.sinaimg.cn/qc/2010/0412/201041284710.jpg
http://i0.sinaimg.cn/qc/2010/0412/201041284719.jpg

daewoo-chevrolet
04-22-2010, 03:22 PM
Lobo facelift live @ Auto China Beijing:

http://img1.bitautoimg.com/autoalbum/files/20100422/089/1238244016_1223999_3.jpg

http://img1.bitautoimg.com/autoalbum/files/20100422/089/1238254172_1224001_3.jpg

http://img1.bitautoimg.com/autoalbum/files/20100422/089/1238259328_1224002_3.jpg

http://img1.bitautoimg.com/autoalbum/files/20100422/089/1238274953_1224005_3.jpg

Source: http://news.bitauto.com/cztg/20100422/1305138620.html

dannybe
04-27-2010, 08:09 AM
Are there any Hafei cars in the Beijing motor show?

martin_krpan
04-28-2010, 02:30 PM
Yes Hafei is there.
Besides new Lobo, Chinese exibited Saibao EV, Minyi pickup and Big Overlord.
http://chezhan.bitauto.com/beijing/2010/hafeiautomobile/

http://img1.bitautoimg.com/autoalbum/files/20100423%5C423/2346232141_1248158_3.jpg

http://img2.bitautoimg.com/autoalbum/files/20100425%5C232/1050438547_1279683_3.jpg
http://img2.bitautoimg.com/autoalbum/files/20100425%5C232/1050447141_1279685_3.jpg

http://img1.bitautoimg.com/autoalbum/files/20100425%5C486/1052415735_1279728_3.jpg

latari
07-03-2010, 12:32 PM
Hafei Lobo is about to produce by Bam khodro in kerman,Iran.the final price is be about 11,000 us$s.

martin_krpan
07-27-2010, 09:37 AM
Facelifted Lobo 1.0:
http://photo.bitauto.com/serial/2233.html

http://s2.mojalbum.com/kitajci-14-foto_4219952_17393070_18012623.jpg
http://s2.mojalbum.com/kitajci-14-foto_4219952_17393070_18012626.jpg
http://s2.mojalbum.com/kitajci-15-foto_4219952_17398151_18012643.jpg
http://s2.mojalbum.com/kitajci-14-foto_4219952_17393070_18012627.jpg

martin_krpan
07-27-2010, 09:38 AM
http://s2.mojalbum.com/kitajci-14-foto_4219952_17393070_18012628.jpg
http://s2.mojalbum.com/kitajci-15-foto_4219952_17398151_18012636.jpg
http://s2.mojalbum.com/kitajci-14-foto_4219952_17393070_18012629.jpg
http://s2.mojalbum.com/kitajci-15-foto_4219952_17398151_18012639.jpg

martin_krpan
07-27-2010, 09:39 AM
http://s2.mojalbum.com/kitajci-15-foto_4219952_17398151_18012635.jpg
http://s2.mojalbum.com/kitajci-15-foto_4219952_17398151_18012640.jpg
http://s2.mojalbum.com/kitajci-15-foto_4219952_17398151_18012641.jpg
http://s2.mojalbum.com/kitajci-15-foto_4219952_17398151_18012642.jpg


more pics at:
http://db.auto.sohu.com/photo/model_2904.html

http://db.auto.sohu.com/photo/pic_t500007.shtml
http://db.auto.sohu.com/photo/pic_t500009.shtml
http://db.auto.sohu.com/photo/pic_t499996.shtml
http://db.auto.sohu.com/photo/pic_t499997.shtml
http://db.auto.sohu.com/photo/pic_t500001.shtml
http://db.auto.sohu.com/photo/pic_t499943.shtml

syche
08-02-2010, 10:00 PM
:) funny little one