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: Chery Cowin 3 (A5) & Chery E5


hazik
04-06-2006, 03:37 AM
I found pictures of how the engine looks like in this new Chery A5

that's one big ass engine, anyone know how much power it has

http://www.supercars.net/pitlane/pics/2142672h.jpg
http://www.supercars.net/pitlane/pics/2142672e.jpg


http://s2.mojalbum.com/kitajci-17-foto_4219952_17405240_18158080.jpg
http://img.autohome.com.cn/upload/spec/2013/u_2013139969376.jpg
http://s2.mojalbum.com/kitajci-17-foto_4219952_17405240_18158082.jpg
http://img.autohome.com.cn/upload/spec/2013/u_2013436626044.jpg
http://s2.mojalbum.com/kitajci-17-foto_4219952_17405240_18158081.jpg
http://img.autohome.com.cn/upload/spec/2013/u_2013213911492.jpg
http://s2.mojalbum.com/kitajci-17-foto_4219952_17405240_18158083.jpg
http://img.autohome.com.cn/upload/spec/2014/u_2014163360780.jpg

pics at:
http://car.autohome.com.cn/pic/series-t/434.html
http://product.xgo.com.cn/pic_list/2804/s_index.html
http://che168.car.autohome.com.cn/pic/series_434_s1.htm

Real_I_Hate_China
04-06-2006, 10:25 AM
that's one big ass engine
I don't think it is the engine that's too big, rather it is the accomodating chassis that's too small.

A5 still rides on a 15 year old 1st generation Seat Toledo chassis afterall, and Seat Toledo was designed with a 1600 cc engine in mind.

Real_I_Hate_China
04-06-2006, 10:35 AM
I forgot, Seat Toledo was built off second generation Volkswagen Golf chassis. That makes A5 chassis 23 years old. No wonder Chery drooled on Daewoo chassis, which were less than 8 years.

hazik
04-06-2006, 04:02 PM
I don't think it is the engine that's too big, rather it is the accomodating chassis that's too small.

A5 still rides on a 15 year old 1st generation Seat Toledo chassis afterall, and Seat Toledo was designed with a 1600 cc engine in mind.

The engine looks like it's taking up half the space of the chassis. Engines on most cars only take up about 1/5th or 1/4th of the chassis space.

hazik
04-06-2006, 04:03 PM
I forgot, Seat Toledo was built off second generation Volkswagen Golf chassis. That makes A5 chassis 23 years old. No wonder Chery drooled on Daewoo chassis, which were less than 8 years.


Do you have any pictures of how a second generation SEAT toledo looks like.

E46DinanM3
04-07-2006, 01:49 AM
Well it says 2.0 right on the engine cover, so I'm gunna go ahead and say its a 2.0L.

Real_I_Hate_China
04-07-2006, 05:24 PM
http://www.autocentre.ua/ac/04/39/images/14/Poderj-27076.jpghttp://pickap.spb.ru/192/image/seat/seat_02.gif
Seat Toledo
http://www.chinamobil.ru/photo/ChFeng/full/09.jpghttp://www.chinamobil.ru/photo/ChFeng/full/13.jpg
Chery Fengyen.

When Seat sold factory tooling to Chery upon their pull out from Mexico, they only sold the equipment, not the license to build Toledo. But Chery didn't care anyway.

Real_I_Hate_China
04-07-2006, 05:25 PM
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/7/7b/Golf15.jpeg
Seat Toledo is built on Second Generation 1983 Golf. This chassis underpins Chery M14, A50, Fengyen and Qiyen.

Tiggo
04-07-2006, 05:28 PM
You should email the government of Mexico and suggest they sue CHERY for illegal vehicle assembling.

Get a life dude, hating is yer attitude?

Tiggo
04-07-2006, 05:43 PM
I don't think it is the engine that's too big, rather it is the accomodating chassis that's too small.

A5 still rides on a 15 year old 1st generation Seat Toledo chassis afterall, and Seat Toledo was designed with a 1600 cc engine in mind.


I forgot, Seat Toledo was built off second generation Volkswagen Golf chassis. That makes A5 chassis 23 years old. No wonder Chery drooled on Daewoo chassis, which were less than 8 years.

Nothing, just following your logic.

Hyundai SONATA's predecessor is Stellar of which both the engine and transmission were licensed from Mitsubishi. Stellar itself is the replacement of Ford Cortina which Hyundai had been building under license previously. It used the same chassis from the Cortina Mk V which was first released in 1979.....

Holy...the sonata is actually older than A5....chassis being 27 years old, beating Chery A5! :lol:

Real_I_Hate_China
04-07-2006, 06:48 PM
Holy...the sonata is actually older than A5....chassis being 27 years old, beating Chery A5!
The only problem with your arguement is that 2006 Sonata cannot actually swap any components with older models, whereas you can take the rear suspension piece from QiYen out and bolt it onto yet unreleased M14.

I wouldn't be shocked if you could repair A50 with 1991 Seat Toledo parts.

hazik
04-07-2006, 07:47 PM
how did chery get the blueprints to SEAT toledo?

Real_I_Hate_China
04-07-2006, 08:15 PM
They got something even better; a fully operational factory that used to assemble Toledos. Run this factory and Toledos come out.

Little did Seat realize that Chery was buying its plant to reproduce Toledos in China without an authorization.

hazik
04-07-2006, 08:30 PM
Is SEAT a carmaker from Spain? Why would Chery buy the assembly factory besides to produce cars. Did SEAT think they were buying the factory to use as a musuem? When did they buy the factory in 2001 or 1999?

Real_I_Hate_China
04-07-2006, 09:11 PM
Did SEAT think they were buying the factory to use as a musuem?
Seat was expecting Chery to produce something OTHER than Toledo.

When did they buy the factory in 2001 or 1999?
I hear 1998.

edge
04-07-2006, 10:15 PM
You know, it's funny for someone who hates Chinese cars and China so much, you really do spend quite a lot of time researching Chinese automobiles.

AXLE
04-07-2006, 10:25 PM
Hold on a sec... Am I missing something?

The M14 will ride on a Seat Toledo/Chery A5 chassis? How do you know??? :confused:

hazik
04-08-2006, 01:20 AM
Seat was expecting Chery to produce something OTHER than Toledo.


I hear 1998.

Did they buy the blueprints to the Toledo with the factory. and how much did they pay for the factory?

pokershark
04-08-2006, 01:35 AM
looks great.....looks more sleek in black..well i guess all cars do

Real_I_Hate_China
04-10-2006, 12:38 AM
The M14 will ride on a Seat Toledo/Chery A5 chassis? How do you know???
That's the only compact chassis Chery has in its portfolio. The torsion beam rear axle gives it away it is a Toledo chassis.

hazik
04-10-2006, 01:31 AM
Does the QQ and Eastar ride on the toledo chassis too?

Real_I_Hate_China
04-10-2006, 11:01 AM
I am sure you are well aware of the fact those two are Daewoo replicas.

cryptonx
04-10-2006, 08:12 PM
more false info as Usual

Chery aquired the Blueprints/Chasis of the 1993 Toledo from a Mexican dealership after authorization from SEAT , if it was not licensed or authoirzed , SEAT would have STEPPED ON chery and kicked it out of buisness by now .

I Have no idea about the m14 , and I dont want to know about it , I dont like such small cars , chinese or not .

again , if you visited VVcars ( your chery dealer in the USA )
and watched the Video for the factory , you will know that this is not some shitty chinese company just trying to make replicas, they are very ambitious and hard working people , trying to set foot on the global automarket place

and one more thing MR i really hate china
you said something about chery staying at home and beating the foriegn domestic cars at home

just to let you know , Chery came at 3RD place in ChineeseCar Sales in the last months of 2006

selling more than very popular famous car makes in the world and in china

I think the number was 32,000

and one more info for you
you assumed once that chery wants to make 500-1000$ form evry car they sell

actualy Chery makes $62 from each Chery QQ sold .

I have the sources if you want to look at them .

Real_I_Hate_China
04-10-2006, 08:41 PM
Chery aquired the Blueprints/Chasis of the 1993 Toledo from a Mexican dealership after authorization from SEAT , if it was not licensed or authoirzed , SEAT would have STEPPED ON chery and kicked it out of buisness by now .
Well, VW tried to stop Chery from using its parts in Qiyun and Fengyun by filing a lawsuit in a Chinese court but failed. Likewise GM sued Chery to have QQ production stopped but failed yet again because of biased Chinese court.

So don't blame VW and GM for "not taking" any legal actions; they did. But the Chinese court won't listen to foreigner's complaints.

again , if you visited VVcars ( your chery dealer in the USA )
and watched the Video for the factory , you will know that this is not some shitty chinese company just trying to make replicas, they are very ambitious and hard working people , trying to set foot on the global automarket place
Yea, $1 billion for the factory and $0 for R&D. Why? Because defining single chassis structure can cost $500 million, half Chery's worth.

you assumed once that chery wants to make 500-1000$ form evry car they sell. actualy Chery makes $62 from each Chery QQ sold .
And does Chery also make $62 from its all other models? Is it even desirable to make $62 per car? It takes 20 QQ sales to match the profit from sales of single Corolla. Or 50 QQs for the profit from single Accord or Sonata.

I have the sources if you want to look at them.
I knew of Chery's QQ profit margin but this is unhealthy. You need a cash reserve of $3~4 billion to run an active R&D program. The only way Chery can generate that kind of cash is asking for its home city government's handouts or going public.

Tiggo
04-13-2006, 01:26 PM
What time periode do you live in, stoneage? It's 2006 dude, no offense but Chinese is the money lord now, you see those french are begging us for more airbus contracts and Japanese and Germans are like fighting like mad to sell us their express train.......

3~4 billion is a lot money, but you need more to scare away the Chinese.

firefox
04-13-2006, 05:03 PM
Tiggo:

I really really like your signiture pic!!:) I mean... the one with two flags putting together. That's great! :thumb:

Désolé, j'suis un peu "hors sujet"..non?

Tiggo
04-13-2006, 05:53 PM
Merci bien~ =)

En fait c'est moi qui l'ai fait, le signature~ ;) Pour moi, c'est un grand compliment!

Vive la Chine! (Republic of CHINA and People's Republic of CHINA)

大中华万岁!

fmohiy
04-17-2006, 02:04 AM
chery makes 62$ profit per QQ only in china because the compact car segment is very competitive. They profit more from exports. Starting from 2006 they are shifting their production to bigger cars to increase their profit margin.

As for R&D, chery spent 50 mil USD to build a car design and manufacturing academy in china. They are trying to do everything the right way. And like toyoya and hyundai did at their early days licensing old designs from other companies to start their companies is only normal.

hazik
04-17-2006, 02:21 AM
How much did you pay for your QQ in egypt?

fmohiy
04-17-2006, 03:07 AM
Hi hazik nice to see you her besides pakwheels.
I paid the equivalent of 8400$ in egyptian pounds.
I know it is expensive but the car carries 35% taxes taken by our government.
Also my car is automatic with ABS.

Check cantactcars.com for car prices in egypt and see my addition in the discussion group there.

hazik
04-17-2006, 05:48 PM
What kind of engine is your car using? Is it Chery acteco engine?

fightingtorque
04-19-2006, 01:30 AM
going back to the original subject of the post - the A5 with the 2,0 engine.

china hater says toledo/ mk2 golf chassis can only handle 1600cc, then posts a nice pic of a mk2 golf GTI - that's a 2.0 16V. Do an internet trawl on golf GTI's see if you can find anyone who knows what they are talking about to have anything against the chassis. plenty of people are now transplanting modified 1.8T, VR6 etc engines into those cars.

torsion beam axle isn't the latest and greatest, but it'll work.

early chery's lacked something in chassis tuning, but they've used Lotus engineering to tune the chassis on pretty much all the cars now. I guess china hater wouldn't trust Lotus though.

what do YOU drive anyway mate? daewoo matiz ?

hazik
04-19-2006, 01:37 AM
he said he drive a toyota

hazik
05-02-2006, 01:47 AM
interior pics of A5

http://www.mychery.net/forum/html/ut/attach/2006/02/16/5766324-11-embed.jpg



http://www.mychery.net/forum/html/ut/attach/2006/02/16/5766342-25-embed.jpg

http://www.mychery.net/forum/html/ut/attach/2006/02/16/5766341-24-embed.jpg

http://www.mychery.net/forum/html/ut/attach/2006/02/16/5766339-23-embed.jpg

hazik
05-02-2006, 01:51 AM
http://www.mychery.net/forum/html/ut/attach/2006/02/16/5766347-29-embed.jpg

http://www.mychery.net/forum/html/ut/attach/2006/02/17/5767001-31-embed.jpg

http://www.mychery.net/forum/html/ut/attach/2006/02/16/5766280-2-embed.jpg

http://www.mychery.net/forum/html/ut/attach/2006/02/16/5766298-13-embed.jpg

hazik
05-02-2006, 01:55 AM
http://www.mychery.net/forum/html/ut/attach/2006/02/16/5766317-16-embed.jpg


http://www.mychery.net/forum/html/ut/attach/2006/02/16/5766306-14-embed.jpg

http://www.mychery.net/forum/html/ut/attach/2006/02/16/5766320-17-embed.jpg


http://www.mychery.net/forum/html/ut/attach/2006/02/16/5766294-10-embed.jpg

hazik
05-02-2006, 02:07 AM
http://www.mychery.net/forum/html/ut/attach/2006/04/18/6420176-1-embed.JPG

http://www.mychery.net/forum/html/ut/attach/2006/04/18/6420173-6-embed.JPG

http://www.mychery.net/forum/html/ut/attach/2006/04/18/6420165-4-embed.JPG

proximal
05-03-2006, 04:04 AM
That interior doesn't look so good. But the real problem is the awful fitment of the headliner and trim around the sunroof. By the way, the engine pictured at the beginning of the thread isn't that large- it's just got a large plastic cover on it. A lot of companies are doing this now. It's easy to make a piece of plastic that looks good and neat, whereas it's not so easy with the engine itself.

fightingtorque
07-06-2006, 10:35 AM
Rear suspension is now independent, replacing the beam axle used on the fengyun/qiyun. I must confess the lower wishbone mounting doesn't look particularly substantial but I'm not the expert on this area.

It also has rear disc brakes (and ventilated front discs, they must have heard of my conversion)

http://www.fightingtorque.com/images/a520rear.JPG

At the front I notice that the ground clearance looks better than on the Fengyun in that the sump is not so deep, and also the exhaust does not run under the engine. There is a pretty substantial chassis member running under the engine bay from front to rear that is not present on fengyun/qiyun. Might be to do with the engine mounts or to improve the collision protection.

http://www.fightingtorque.com/images/a520front.JPG

The interior looks quite smart, but I am not taken with the exterior styling. Maybe it'll grow on me. Might look better with some monster wheels and a bit of a lowering.

dragin
07-06-2006, 12:50 PM
I agree FT that rear link's body mounting point looks weak at best. Should the back end skid sideways I don't think it would stand up well against the lateral force of contact with a curb, or other road hazard.

By contrast I'm always impressed when I pull up behind Honda CR-V. That easily seen rear suspension is a textbook example of strength and durability.

Nice underbody snapshots by the way.

AXLE
07-06-2006, 11:40 PM
The car is also leaking oil, notice the drops on the oil filter?

Real_I_Hate_China
07-07-2006, 01:48 PM
The rear suspension arrangement is weird, no subframe(Or something that looks like a subframe is directly welded on to the chassis). It seems as if Chery modified a torsion beam chassis to add an independent rear suspension in place of a torsion beam. And where is the anti-roll bar? Don't tell me Chery saved $20 by not including one.

Should handle crappy.

Real_I_Hate_China
07-07-2006, 01:50 PM
http://www.mychery.net/forum/html/ut/attach/2006/05/02/6584991-16-embed.jpg
This is a much better pic.

gr8
07-09-2006, 11:12 PM
deleted by martin_krpan
reason: abusive post - answering to RIHC

fightingtorque
07-10-2006, 02:01 AM
An anti roll bar is to provide roll stiffnes without increasing the spring rate, so improving the compromise between body roll and comfortable ride.

The important point is to achieve the correct ratio of roll stiffness between the front and rear suspensions. If you make the front stiffer, you increase weight transfer at the front which promotes understeer, whilst increasing stiffness at the rear will have the opposite effect - reducing understeer/ promoting oversteer.

Since most production cars are built to have safe and predictable handling to cover the wide cross section of the population, it is not unusual to find no anti roll bar at the rear. ( Obviously one of the first mods you'd make to produce a sporty handling version would be to build a rear anti roll bar for it.)

Since Hater's dream car is a Lotus (I've already got two of course) it is not surprising that he translates this to crappy. I am not sure where his late '80s Corolla fits into this story though.

Note to self - study all my photos in detail before letting Axle near them - doesn't miss a trick.

dragin
07-10-2006, 08:37 AM
An anti roll bar is to provide roll stiffness without increasing the spring rate, so improving the compromise between body roll and comfortable ride.

The important point is to achieve the correct ratio of roll stiffness between the front and rear suspensions. If you make the front stiffer, you increase weight transfer at the front which promotes understeer, whilst increasing stiffness at the rear will have the opposite effect - reducing understeer/ promoting oversteer.........

Jikki and friends, who are students of the motor vehicle, pay close attention here!

FT is not only provinding good observations of the developing CAI but also some great tips on automotive engineering and motorsports technical.

And, he's doing it without having an axe to grind.....

AXLE
07-10-2006, 12:15 PM
Note to self - study all my photos in detail before letting Axle near them - doesn't miss a trick.

HA! Thats me :looky:

fightingtorque
07-12-2006, 09:03 PM
One of the best books in my collection is called 'how to make your car handle' by Fred Puhn. Anyone interested in understanding how the different types of car suspension and tyres work, and the principles of car handling, should definitely have it on the shelf.

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/customer-reviews/0912656468/104-2836209-6558354?redirect=true

has some reviews. Note that one of them is quite negative saying it's written in 1981 and out of date, whilst others note that it still covers all the right principles. It's a bit like reading a chinacarforums thread with one hater post in the middle!

If you match that with something by David Vizard on engines, then you already know more about cars (not the car industry) than hater will find in a lifetime of internet searching.

egytuner
09-06-2006, 02:09 AM
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egytuner
09-06-2006, 02:12 AM
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egytuner
09-06-2006, 02:14 AM
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egytuner
09-06-2006, 02:16 AM
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more at:
http://car.autohome.com.cn/pic/series-t/434.html

FaWzY
09-06-2006, 07:26 AM
this is one of the cars of my dreams now :D

tarouk
09-08-2006, 04:16 PM
compar the back to ford focus 2005 back
is this what is called inspiration

Admin
09-08-2006, 04:50 PM
welcome to chinacarforums tarouk

dragin
09-08-2006, 08:37 PM
compar the back to ford focus 2005 back
is this what is called inspiration

You are right Tarouk. Chery has been playing it very cautious to the point of boredom.

On the other hand Chang'an, although often criticized for some odd designs, has been setting an example for bold innovation among Chinese makers....e.g. the CV6, CV9, CM8, and the CV7 to a lesser extent.

gr8
09-09-2006, 12:45 AM
i stil think that the wheels are too small in comarison to the large upright headlights

abdelrahman
09-11-2006, 07:57 PM
yea i am with u

but i think u can just put 16" or 17" sport weels

the car is sheap 60.000L.E

and 2 or 3 years later u may put sport short suspension !

Wuji
09-29-2006, 09:51 AM
Nice pictures !

A5 is a nice car in all aspects except for the exterior which are criticized by many Chinese funs. Chery might be seeking for exterior redesign. So, maybe you might see the new looking next year.

Anyway, it is nice car especially you can find a little bit feeling of power with an A520.

handlane
10-18-2006, 02:08 AM
great car! nice butt

m14
10-19-2006, 10:44 PM
lol u mean bumper, i dont see any ladies pics in this thread:D

copy
11-18-2006, 03:55 AM
One blue Chery A5 is exposed on the Beijing airport. I have some photos. Looks good :thumb:

Raul
11-20-2006, 02:20 AM
Chery A5 ISG

Chery introduced a hybrid Chery A5 ISG at the Beijing show. This will be the first hybrid to be mass-produced in China.

The Chery A5 ISG is a parallel hybrid, using the gas engine and/or electric motor to power the vehicle independenty or in unison. It will use an ACTECO1.3L 4 cylinder, coupled with their 519 5-spd MT gearbox. At low speeds, it will essentially be an electric vehicle, with the gasoline engine shutting down. When the vehicle hits higher speeds (usually reach 40km/h above), or senses the need for more rapid acceleration, the gasoline engine will start up and supplement the power.

http://www.blogsmithmedia.com/www.autoblog.com/media/2006/11/a5isg.jpg

Pharaoh
11-20-2006, 06:13 AM
I am so hoping that China does well in the Automobile market. Its seems to be the only country that sells ...cars at a value for money price.

I am so rooting for them.

BringIt
11-20-2006, 11:49 AM
Wow, Chery has a hybrid?!? What kind of mileage does it get? When will it be available? The more info anyone could give us, the better!!!

WuzhengNA
11-20-2006, 12:07 PM
Now THAT will put Chery on the US map. Very, very smart - to pull away from the "also-rans" and sell something that stands out and has a market.

Very, very smart.

phaeton
11-23-2006, 01:58 AM
WOW

I want to know what mileage it does too ;)

firefox
11-23-2006, 11:21 AM
That's amazing news, but I hope it will be reliable.

m14
11-23-2006, 08:39 PM
if chery can execute hybrid cars correctly..they have a good chance in market

renyeo
11-24-2006, 02:07 AM
I wonder how much Chery lost per hybrid?

dragin
11-24-2006, 08:19 AM
Chery A5 ISG

..... At low speeds, it will essentially be an electric vehicle, with the gasoline engine shutting down. When the vehicle hits higher speeds (usually reach 40km/h above), or senses the need for more rapid acceleration, the gasoline engine will start up and supplement the power.

http://www.blogsmithmedia.com/www.autoblog.com/media/2006/11/a5isg.jpg

This is welcome news. But air conditioning and electric loads such as headlights turn the gas engine on fairly frequently even at low speeds, particularly in summer. Electric A/C compressors have helped reduce these low speed and idling loads.

Chery is to be applauded for its green car efforts.
It will join Toyota and Honda in an exclusive group that is garnering an enomous amount of experience in electric motor-generator and battery technology. The transition to fuel cells will come much easier for them.

Let's hope other Chinese makers will follow Chery's example.

?man
11-25-2006, 08:43 AM
Are you sure this car isn't a highly modified Saturn ION? Its not quite evident, but they have the same roof arch and very similar windows. I think cherry-sorry-Chery might have used the ION as a platform, and if so, they still did a good job at it. Maybe i'm just paranoid.

jetamr
12-05-2006, 10:25 PM
http://www.acspy.com/ShowNews.asp?Qiche_NewsId=373

Real_I_Hate_China
12-05-2006, 11:08 PM
No 40 mph 40% offset test? No side impact?

chinacartimes
12-06-2006, 12:52 AM
I agree with you! Although perhaps those photos wernt published yet?

Anyway, I wrote the story in English:
http://www.***************************************.com/2006/12/05/chery-a5-crash-test-photos/

hazik
12-06-2006, 01:23 AM
http://www.mychery.net/forum/html/ut/attach/2006/11/26/8662083-006_-embed.jpg

oo4load
12-06-2006, 03:39 AM
Any car, even a 1989 hyundai excel, would pass that full width frontal test without too much deformation. So, nothing has really 'improved', it's basically all a marketing show.

As I already expected, they only release offset test data for foreign models and chinese cars that perform 'ok'. But so far no chinese car would be able to pass, so nothing is tested/published.

BringIt
12-06-2006, 12:41 PM
is that just a plastic cover with nothing underneath? J/K

Anyone know the specs of this engine? Is it based on someone's technology?

More info plz...

Altis
12-08-2006, 06:37 PM
40% 40mph offset test is here

http://www.mychery.net/forum/html/ut/attach/2006/12/07/8805435-20061207_1-embed.jpg

http://www.mychery.net/forum/html/ut/attach/2006/12/07/8805516-20061207_2-embed.jpg

50km/h Side Impact

http://www.8vd.cn/up_files/image/2006-12-8/81028861.jpg

oo4load
12-09-2006, 06:44 AM
Wow that's actually a strong body! I'll take back everything I said :)

RiseOfTheRev01ution
12-09-2006, 08:40 PM
Do you think this car could pass US safety standards, European standards?

Real_I_Hate_China
12-09-2006, 09:05 PM
Wow that's actually a strong body! I'll take back everything I said
Not so fast.

C-NCAP only tests 40% frontial offset at 35 mph instead of 40 mph. This results in 33% fewer collision energy than a 40 mph test. Even Landwind that got zero on a 40 mph test passed the 35 mph test.

Side impact on the other hand is Euro standard. Except that A5 performed poorly in this test, as seen in the pic.

And no rear impact test and no roof strength test of the US.

Tiggo
12-09-2006, 09:16 PM
For posts like this, I shall let you stay in this forum. :D
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to admin: :bow2:

gr8
12-09-2006, 10:11 PM
http://www.safercar.gov/graphics/2005/05focus2-s.jpg
http://www.safercar.gov/graphics/2005/04-F150SuperCrew.jpg
http://www.bridger.us/pictures/f150.jpg
http://www.blogsmithmedia.com/www.autoblog.com/media/2006/12/fordrolloverroofs.jpg
hmmmmm how does these car pass the us crash test??

cryptonx
12-10-2006, 01:49 AM
they don't , but they got the bomb , they know better :P

Altis
12-10-2006, 05:52 AM
Do you think this car could pass US safety standards, European standards?
Chery's old models like QQ,A5and Oriental son wouldn't be exported to US or Euro :D

Real_I_Hate_China
12-10-2006, 10:51 AM
hmmmmm how does these car pass the us crash test??
They aren't cars. The US has a separate safety regulations for trucks.

Chery's old models like QQ,A5and Oriental son wouldn't be exported to US or Euro
Except for the fact that Chery has no money to develop its own chassis and old Daewoo and VW chassis underpin newer Cherys.

Altis
12-10-2006, 05:24 PM
2005 Buick Lacrosse was also tested by C-NCAP. Side impact result was as poor as Chery A5.

http://auto.tom.com/img/assets/200610/06101507174429576_2.jpg

http://img1.qq.com/auto/pics/1935/1935443.jpg

http://img1.qq.com/auto/pics/1935/1935445.jpg
:eek:

cryptonx
12-11-2006, 03:09 AM
buick got the bomb

cpt_shawky
12-12-2006, 11:00 AM
thxxx

abdelrahman
12-26-2006, 06:57 PM
but i think that they said that in the car's porchur that there is an anti roll bar!

DOHC_Holiday
01-06-2007, 08:47 PM
Probably on the front only like my Sentra. I added a Nismo rear sway bar and FT is right, the understeer just vanishes.

visitant
03-30-2007, 05:13 PM
The chassis of this car is from old SEAT.

hazik
04-15-2007, 12:56 AM
Chery A5 is now one of the best selling cars in china. over 12000 a month, 2nd only to Chery QQ at 15000 a month

http://s2.mojalbum.com/kitajci-17-foto_4219952_17405240_18158121.jpg
http://img.autohome.com.cn/upload/spec/2644/u_2644307300015.jpg
http://s2.mojalbum.com/kitajci-17-foto_4219952_17405240_18158120.jpg
http://img.autohome.com.cn/upload/spec/2644/u_264418075297.jpg

martin_krpan
04-15-2007, 04:23 AM
This is a facelift of A5? What exactly is new? I can't notice any differences.:confused:

chinacartimes
04-15-2007, 05:19 AM
I didnt know it had a face lift ??

Anyway, the A5 is a great looking car from the outside, but the dash is a bit lame isnt it, especially in 2007. A tape deck? Surprised Chery really didnt cut some corners and install betamax.

BringIt
04-15-2007, 08:50 AM
There's nothing easier to fix the interior than to replace the steering wheel, and this car seriously need one...

Plz get rid of that ugly, nasty, 80's steering wheel, PLEASE... otherwise the int actually looks okay, for a budget car that is.

hazik
04-15-2007, 03:52 PM
I didnt know it had a face lift ??

Anyway, the A5 is a great looking car from the outside, but the dash is a bit lame isnt it, especially in 2007. A tape deck? Surprised Chery really didnt cut some corners and install betamax.


I had a mid 90's toyota that didn't even have a cassette player. All it had was AM/FM radio. What is a betamax?

cryptonx
04-15-2007, 06:11 PM
I was going to report that NEW HOOD a couple of weeks ago , as the Chery A5 assembled in EGYPT , already has this new HOOD , its very very subtle modification , they extruded that edge in the middle of the hood a bit more i think .

umax
04-18-2007, 11:52 AM
I had a mid 90's toyota that didn't even have a cassette player. All it had was AM/FM radio. What is a betamax?

I think he meant to compare the Betamax (the "grandfather" of modern digital video cameras) with the installed radio-cassette on A5 (also believed to be the "grandfather" of the modern CD+MP3 car players available today). :thumb:

umax
04-18-2007, 11:55 AM
BTW, what's wrong with the steering wheel in A5? I happen to like it. It looks soooo... "Toyotish".

:rofl:

automen
04-24-2007, 03:37 AM
fantastic car!

hazik
05-03-2007, 01:21 AM
A5 is going to be the best selling car in china, how come the black A5 on the right doesn't have alloy wheels?

http://s2.mojalbum.com/kitajci-9-foto_4219952_17373662_17449389.jpg
http://img.autohome.com.cn/album/2007/4/25/71e0b292-e8d5-48d2-9eeb-33d917998e05.jpg

http://s2.mojalbum.com/kitajci-9-foto_4219952_17373662_17449390.jpg
http://img.autohome.com.cn/album/2007/4/25/7089ca02-836b-4b03-84b6-91754b8930d4.jpg

http://s2.mojalbum.com/kitajci-9-foto_4219952_17373662_17449391.jpg
http://img.autohome.com.cn/album/2007/4/25/601d8301-fdd1-4572-a18c-fec3d995d41b.jpg

http://s2.mojalbum.com/kitajci-9-foto_4219952_17373662_17449392.jpg
http://img.autohome.com.cn/album/2007/4/25/789d56f5-d4d9-4840-b5db-f2e6afdcfe9f.jpg

egytuner
05-10-2007, 12:38 PM
the A516, is everywhere here in Egypt, just step into any street... & u'll find one :D

bassfisher
05-10-2007, 09:06 PM
How do they compare financially and in dependability with the obvious original Jetta?
How do they find the cost and quality in egypt?

martin_krpan
05-11-2007, 07:59 AM
how come the black A5 on the right doesn't have alloy wheels?


That has to be base model. Simple. If all versions of A5 would offer alloy wheels as standard equiptment that would really be a suprise.

KING_OF_HILL
05-20-2007, 01:08 PM
A5 is going to be the best selling car in china, how come the black A5 on the right doesn't have alloy wheels?


It looks like a spare to me.



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mememe
07-01-2007, 07:04 AM
Here is the test score comparing Chery A5 with GM, VW and Toyota

Chery A5 got three stars, its score is 37.6. GM: four stars, score:40.2 VW:four stars, score:40.3 . Toyota:fiver stars score:47.7

for the 100% front crash test: Chery A5 score is 13.5 even better than VW:12.32 and GM: got 13.55

http://www.c-ncap.org/content/pzjg/Blcyc.htm

phaeton
07-02-2007, 05:09 AM
Pretty good ;)

What model VW, Toyota and GM cars are we comparing these results with ? eg Toyota "blah blah" vs Chery A5.

cryptonx
07-02-2007, 08:28 AM
rofl

Toyota BlahBlah4 vs Chery QQ6

I was going to say the same yesterday but then again , dont bother :P

ali-khierbeck
08-30-2007, 12:38 PM
http://i16.servimg.com/u/f16/11/37/70/26/1_710.gif (http://www.servimg.com/image_preview.php?i=326&u=11377026)

isaber
09-03-2007, 12:20 AM
nice car

martin_krpan
09-07-2007, 10:42 AM
First pictures of A516:

http://s2.mojalbum.com/kitajci-17-foto_4219952_17405240_18158136.jpg
http://img.autohome.com.cn/2007/9/6/6-18-45-27-281117243.jpg
http://s2.mojalbum.com/kitajci-17-foto_4219952_17405240_18158138.jpg
http://img.autohome.com.cn/upload/spec/3252/w_3252444383633.jpg
http://s2.mojalbum.com/kitajci-17-foto_4219952_17405240_18158139.jpg
http://img.autohome.com.cn/upload/spec/3252/w_3252480525683.jpg
http://s2.mojalbum.com/kitajci-17-foto_4219952_17405240_18158142.jpg
http://img.autohome.com.cn/upload/spec/3252/w_325272605565.jpg

martin_krpan
09-07-2007, 10:45 AM
http://s2.mojalbum.com/kitajci-17-foto_4219952_17405240_18158143.jpg
http://img.autohome.com.cn/upload/spec/3252/w_32529320092.jpg
http://s2.mojalbum.com/kitajci-17-foto_4219952_17405240_18158137.jpg
http://img.autohome.com.cn/upload/spec/3252/w_3252114287702.jpg
http://s2.mojalbum.com/kitajci-17-foto_4219952_17405240_18158141.jpg
http://img.autohome.com.cn/upload/spec/3252/w_3252557981537.jpg
http://s2.mojalbum.com/kitajci-17-foto_4219952_17405240_18158140.jpg
http://img.autohome.com.cn/upload/spec/3252/w_3252548232186.jpg

I assume this is special -i.e. premium- version of A5.

xavier22
10-03-2007, 01:33 PM
good 1

MTodorovic
10-10-2007, 01:51 PM
Good work

Chery/FAW Fan
10-17-2007, 08:37 AM
The Chery A5 is one car that is now in my Top 5 Cars of all time. Its a great looking sedan and the gold Chery emblem on the grille of the A516 is a nice elegant touch.

vitordavid
10-17-2007, 11:30 AM
I agree the interiors look good, apart the lack of airbag, the front looks super.
too bad the tail light were stolen from the vw passat

mememe
11-16-2007, 10:13 AM
How many airbags does this have ?

Rally Red Lancer GTS
11-17-2007, 12:34 PM
Indeed that front end is super and the rear doesn't take away from the overall shape and look. Nice job, Chery with your A516!

mememe
01-17-2008, 05:41 PM
Johnson Controls-Saft Advanced Power Solutions to Provide Hybrid Battery System for Newest Car From Chery

Energy-conscious consumers in China will have a new hybrid option when Chery Automobile launches its new A5 ISG sedan in the latter half of 2008. Combining the advantages of fuel and electric vehicles, the new car is low in emission and fuel-consumption together with high performance. The new car will be powered by a hybrid battery system developed by Johnson Controls-Saft Advanced Power Solutions.

Chery Automobile, a major Chinese auto manufacturer, has chosen nickel metal hydride (Ni-MH) batteries from Johnson Controls-Saft for its latest vehicle. The joint venture between Johnson Controls and Saft will draw on its considerable presence worldwide for this contract. In the first phase the Ni-MH cells will be manufactured in France, development work will be carried out in the United States and the battery integration will take place in China.

"As car sales continue to significantly increase in China, Johnson Controls-Saft is committed to partnering with automakers to develop fuel-efficient vehicles for consumers who want -- and need -- to make purchasing decisions that are good for the environment," said Mary Ann Wright, who leads the Johnson Controls-Saft joint venture and is vice president and general manager of Johnson Controls' hybrid battery business.

According to Wright, the company is developing, manufacturing and integrating advanced hybrid battery systems to provide consumers with smaller and lighter batteries, which are also more powerful, durable, safe and affordable.

"With world-class engineering centers in the United States, Europe and China, we have the technical capability to partner with our customers as consumers around the world increasingly demand energy-efficient, high performance vehicles," Wright said.

In addition to its engineering center and manufacturing facility in Shanghai, Johnson Controls-Saft will also work with local engineering firms in China. According to Wright, the joint collaboration in engineering will allow experienced Johnson Controls-Saft engineers to work hand-in-hand with some of China's best young talent in the automotive industry.

"This is as much about the successful launch and ability to commercially manufacture this vehicle as it is about the development of an effective engineering team with the technical capabilities to support China's fast growing future needs in the hybrid automotive market," she said.

Johnson Controls-Saft is a joint venture that has brought together Johnson Controls -- the world's leading supplier of automotive batteries and a company deeply experienced in integrated automotive systems solutions -- with Saft, an advanced energy storage solutions provider with extensive advanced energy storage solutions expertise.

About Saft

Saft (Euronext: Saft) is a world specialist in the design and manufacture of high-tech batteries for industry. Saft batteries are used in high performance applications such as industrial infrastructure and processes, transportation, space and defence. Saft is the world's leading manufacturer of nickel-cadmium batteries for industrial applications and of primary lithium batteries for a wide range of end markets. The group is also the European leader for specialised advanced technologies for the defence and space industries. With approximately 3,800 employees worldwide, Saft is present in 18 countries. Its 18 manufacturing sites and extensive sales network enable the group to serve its customers worldwide. For more information, visit Saft at http://www.saftbatteries.com

About Johnson Controls

Johnson Controls (NYSE: JCI: 33.76, +0.88, +2.67%) is the global leader that brings ingenuity to the places where people live, work and travel. By integrating technologies, products and services, we create smart environments that redefine the relationships between people and their surroundings. Our team of 140,000 employees creates a more comfortable, safe and sustainable world through our products and services for more than 200 million vehicles, 12 million homes and one million commercial buildings. Our commitment to sustainability drives our environmental stewardship, good corporate citizenship in our workplaces and communities, and the products and services we provide to customers. For additional information, please visit http://www.johnsoncontrols.com/.

http://www.foxbusiness.com/markets/industries/industrials/article/johnson-controlssaft-advanced-power-solutions-provide-hybrid-battery-newest_436996_6.html

martin_krpan
03-04-2008, 10:03 AM
Is Chery A5 estate coming?

Pictures have come out onto the internet of a Chery A5 estate, the mock ups show what appears to be a rather good looking competitor to the Buick Excelle estate. The A5 is one of the cheaper sedans on the Chinese market, and also one of the better looking both on the inside and the out. The A5 sedan ranges from 60,280rmb to 90,380rmb for the top of the range model, engines range from 1.6 to 2.0l. We’re unsure what will go in the A5 estate, how much it will be, or when it will go into production, but we do know the A5 will make for a nice entry into the low cost estate segment.


http://s2.mojalbum.com/kitajci-3-foto_4219952_10796317_11267830.jpg
http://s2.mojalbum.com/kitajci-3-foto_4219952_10796317_11267827.jpg

source: China car Times

martin_krpan
04-03-2008, 10:40 AM
Chery A5 hybrid to be mass-produced after Summer Olympics.

April 3, 2008 - Chery Automobile is set to mass-produce its A5 hybrid vehicles right after Beijing 2008 Summer Olympic Games, Beijing-based Jinhua Newspaper reported.

"A5 hybrid will be sold at prices between RMB10,000 and RMB20,000, higher-priced than the basic A5 series," said Yang Hongze, deputy general manager of Chery Automobile Sales Co Ltd.

Chery A5 is now sold between RMB69,800 ($9,950) and RMB93,800 in the Chinese market.

According to earlier media reports, Chery will offer 50 of the 80 vehicles to be used for Olympic transportation services in August this year. Of the 50 vehicles, 40 Chery BSG hybrids and 10 Chery ISG hybrids will be used to ferry athletes and spectators during the 2008 Olympic Games in Beijing.

The Chery A5 hybrid version to be launched after the world event will combine the hybrid technologies of both models.

source: Gasgoo.com

sgbeertalk
06-16-2008, 08:44 AM
Hi all I just got my Chery A5 here is Singapore.

The car here comes with quite a load of stuffs like dual airbags and 4 discs brakes.

Take a look at my car at sgbeertalk.blogspot.com:lol:

ahmad7610
06-16-2008, 12:03 PM
thnx-- g8 car here in egypt according to price

martin_krpan
08-29-2008, 11:00 AM
Chery to launch A5 1.5L model at 60,000 yuan

Shanghai, August 29, 2008 - Following the launch of the Chery A3 model next month, Chery Auto will also put the 1.5L model of its Chery A5 onto the market at a price of 60,000 yuan ($8,770) or so, said xinhuanet.com today, citing sources from the company.

The long-awaited Chery A3 model is scheduled to go on sale on September 23, and the Chery Cowin (Qiyun) 1.5L model was launched in early July as an addition to the Chery Cowin series. After the Chery A3 hits the market next month, the Chery A5 1.5L model will also go to the market to enrich the Chery A5 lineup.

The current Chery A5 series has the 1.6L, 1.8L, 2.0L models, all equipped with Chery's self-developed ACTECO engines and priced at 69,800-93,800 yuan, but the forthcoming Chery A5 1.5L model will carry the same SQR477F engine as the Chery Cowin 1.5L model, with its selling price at about 60,000 yuan. The Chery A3 series also has the 1.8L and 2.0L models.

http://news.cheshi.com/gcxc/200808/74485.shtml

http://s2.mojalbum.com/kitajci-5-foto_4219952_13082292_13377448.jpg
http://s2.mojalbum.com/kitajci-5-foto_4219952_13082292_13377453.jpg

martin_krpan
11-25-2008, 11:07 AM
2008 Chery A5 1.8
http://car.autohome.com.cn/pic/series-s3272/434.html?pvareaid=100496


http://s2.mojalbum.com/kitajci-5-foto_4219952_13082292_14288269.jpg

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http://s2.mojalbum.com/kitajci-5-foto_4219952_13082292_14288272.jpg

martin_krpan
11-25-2008, 11:08 AM
http://s2.mojalbum.com/kitajci-5-foto_4219952_13082292_14288299.jpg

http://s2.mojalbum.com/kitajci-5-foto_4219952_13082292_14288284.jpg

http://s2.mojalbum.com/kitajci-5-foto_4219952_13082292_14288288.jpg

http://s2.mojalbum.com/kitajci-5-foto_4219952_13082292_14288295.jpg

martin_krpan
11-25-2008, 11:09 AM
http://s2.mojalbum.com/kitajci-5-foto_4219952_13082292_14288290.jpg

http://s2.mojalbum.com/kitajci-5-foto_4219952_13082292_14288321.jpg

http://s2.mojalbum.com/kitajci-5-foto_4219952_13082292_14288336.jpg

http://s2.mojalbum.com/kitajci-5-foto_4219952_13082292_14288354.jpg

martin_krpan
11-25-2008, 11:11 AM
A5 2.0 AT
http://car.autohome.com.cn/pic/series-s3273/434.html?pvareaid=100496


http://s2.mojalbum.com/kitajci-5-foto_4219952_13082292_14288367.jpg

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http://s2.mojalbum.com/kitajci-5-foto_4219952_13082292_14288377.jpg

daewoo-chevrolet
11-26-2008, 10:27 AM
The new steering wheel looks much better and the 1.5 is a real bargain for only 60.000 yuan, but it's a bit strange that the A5 is so much more expensive than the new Chery A3.

mememe
12-31-2008, 12:56 PM
This should clear off the rumour that Chery used the SEAT Toledo chassis without paying.

http://translate.google.com/translate?u=http%3A%2F%2Fespaciocoches.com%2F2007% 2F12%2Fnuevo-chery-corwin-basado-en-el-seat-toledo.html&sl=es&tl=en&hl=en&ie=UTF-8

It says clearly that Chery has gain authorization to market the Cowin in Europe which we all know based on the chassis of SEAT Toledo.

Could Chery really gain the authorization in Europe if the Cowin is the pirated version of SEAT Toledo.

martin_krpan
01-12-2009, 09:24 AM
January 12, 2008 - Chery have finally launched their Chery A5 hybrid sedan, but is it a real hybrid? Chery are playing catch up to the world headline catching BYD F3 Dual Mode hybrid sedan from souther car makers, BYD. Chery have enlisted the help of British engineering firm, Ricardo, to aid them in their designing of hybrid models, but is the A5 BSG a true hybrid?

We’ve become conditioned to the automotive hybrid as being a joint gasoline, electric engine, but the Chery A5 BSG appears to be a Belt Driven Starter Generator, hence the name BSG. This is essentially a stop and start system which more expensive cars, such as the new Landrover Freelander utilize. The Stop Start system is not an entirely new system, certain 80’s cars such as the VW Polo of the day, and also a Golf. Citroen fitted a much nicer version to their C2 and C3 in 2006.

Essentially, the BSG is a mild hybrid. This means that the starter motor is slightly larger than usual, and allows the cars engine to be turned off when coasting, braking, or stopped.

The most exciting aspect of the Chery A5 BSG is its price: a mere 74,800rmb can get you a hybrid car on the road, thats $10,940USD. That price is a lot lower than the BYD F3 DM which came in 149,800rmb, and with the A5 BSG, you dont have the problem of having to charge your car up everynight. On the downside, you could probably charge your F3DM up for pennies (or Fen) overnight, but you have to fill your A5BSG with a few hundred RMB every other week.

The odd thing is, Chery have only planned to make 5000 A5 BSG units in 2009, which may well be a conservative underestimate in terms of demand for this car. Chinese consumers, like any consumers, like to save money, and if they can buy a car that looks great, and saves them money on fuel over a similarly priced non hybrid model, then they are likely to choose the A5 BSG.

The A5 is not going to be the last Chery to get the BSG treatment, Chery is also planning to pass on the BSG technology to the Chery A3, and the Chery A1 lines. Media reports indicate that Chery are aiming to take their BSG technology to North American markets in 2013, which will give them more than enough time to mature the technology, as well as their safety, to suit highly scepticle American audiences.

http://auto.sohu.com/20090112/n261702957.shtml


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axeray
01-12-2009, 12:17 PM
Only going to make 500 of tese?

They musn't be expecting to sell tom many or they have sommmmmmmmething better on the way?

mememe
01-12-2009, 01:43 PM
^^ sort of hybrid cars like this is not very strong in China, so they need to start small first and test the market.

axeray
01-13-2009, 12:52 PM
They should still be able to sell 500 in good time.

Moriah
02-05-2009, 08:23 PM
This seems to be the future of the Chery A5. Its platform will be based on the current model to reduce development cost. The launching will have to be in 2010, with sales in 2011.

http://www.chery4s.com/up_file/image/Article/2009/02/06/32926221.jpg

http://www.chery4s.com/up_file/image/Article/2009/02/06/32926222.jpg

dragin
02-06-2009, 07:34 AM
Essentially, the BSG is a mild hybrid. This means that the starter motor is slightly larger than usual, and allows the cars engine to be turned off when coasting, braking, or stopped.

Is it really worth the effort? This kind of hybrid is more eyewash than anything else, and will soon be obsolete. The bottom line is mpg (kpl). How economical is it over the ICE 2%, 5%, 7%? My guess is not much.
I'm surprised that they are going to the trouble.

ANDROID
02-14-2009, 01:57 PM
Hi from Russia! I`m driver Chery A520 (FORA) . Good auto!!!

ANDROID
02-14-2009, 02:35 PM
Whether and many the Chinese cars buy in the Europe?
In Russia to the Chinese machines do not trust. Consider their not reliable.
I with it do not agree.

martin_krpan
02-14-2009, 03:34 PM
Welcome to CCF ANDROID.
You are welcomed to present your A5 in Rides subforum. Also post any info you have regardnig Chinese cars in Russia.

ANDROID
02-15-2009, 02:06 AM
Welcome to CCF ANDROID.

I thank you. I ask to forgive me for my bad English.
Could not find out subjects of the given forum precisely. Has simply seen discussion of the Chinese cars and it has decided to be registered.

ANDROID
02-15-2009, 02:26 AM
In Russia it is a lot of Chery Amulet. Their cost 11 000 $ and to buy such rich citizens presume to themselves not. Lada Priora costs more dearly, but has a poor complete set. Personally to me Amulet to not like from for its weak Body. Though the machine convenient.
I to myself have chosen А5 2.0L at us its price 15000 $. With machine it is happy. Only very dear regular Maintenance service and account materials.

ANDROID
02-28-2009, 04:56 AM
In a city mode engine A5 2.0 L consumes 12 litres of gasoline A-95 Premium equally both in the winter and in the summer. The charge on a highway behind city of 7.5-8.5 litres.
The engine after achievement of turns after 3000 has essential pick up it allows to be accelerated on 5 transfer. Very conveniently at overtaking.

ANDROID
03-06-2009, 02:22 PM
At us in Russia hybrid engines do not sell. Their service is not adjusted. Therefore nobody risks to take such machines.
And oil at us while has enough. At us the agiotage on powerful off-road cars has again begun.

KiwiGuy
06-26-2009, 02:11 AM
Chery A5 has had a facelift for 2009. It has got a front similar to the A6 and a revised rear. Can't post pictures from CCT for some reason. If anyone has any, please post.

martin_krpan
11-12-2009, 02:05 AM
Is this A5 facelift?
http://www.autohome.com.cn/news/200911/76855.html

alialince
11-12-2009, 04:06 AM
probably

daewoo-chevrolet
11-12-2009, 10:02 AM
@ martin_krpan: I suppose Chery introduce both the Chery A5 facelift and the more luxurious Riich version, which is likely to be called Riich G3.

mohamed_m72
02-16-2010, 08:53 PM
Chery was a very bad company & untrusted, I bought my car A516 in EGYPT & the main service center in egypt is not honest. In the service, the service center change the engine oil filter with a different one , not as the same one replaced, When I e-mailed chery for the technical support they did not answer me. I replaced the service center filter by one i bought it from the shop outside the service center . I send to chery the photos of the two filters showing the differnces between them, they did not answer me till now I do not know why, this is the customer care in a chineese company

There was two main differences , 1st = The service filter is shorter than the replaced filter by About 2cm,
2nd= the rubber seal diameter in the service filter is smaller than the one in the replaced filter.
So I send my mail to chery by photos & the great chineese company did not reply.
Any one want to see the photos , pls. send me your mail on mohamed_m72@yahoo.com

KiwiGuy
02-16-2010, 10:04 PM
It's unfortunate for that stuff to happen. Are the Chery dealerships in Egypt run by a private importing company?

martin_krpan
04-30-2010, 07:30 AM
Facelifted A5 which missed Beijing Auto Show was caught without camouflage:
http://www.autohome.com.cn/news/201004/110079.html

http://s2.mojalbum.com/kitajci-36-foto_4219952_17418047_18359177.jpg
http://s2.mojalbum.com/kitajci-36-foto_4219952_17418047_18359179.jpg
http://s2.mojalbum.com/kitajci-36-foto_4219952_17418047_18359181.jpg
http://s2.mojalbum.com/kitajci-36-foto_4219952_17418047_18359180.jpg

martin_krpan
05-18-2010, 09:53 AM
http://s2.mojalbum.com/kitajci-17-foto_4219952_17405240_18158223.jpg
http://s2.mojalbum.com/kitajci-36-foto_4219952_17418047_18359185.jpg
http://s2.mojalbum.com/kitajci-17-foto_4219952_17405240_18158221.jpg
http://s2.mojalbum.com/kitajci-36-foto_4219952_17418047_18359183.jpg

http://car.autohome.com.cn/photo/series/7833/1/729594.html
http://car.autohome.com.cn/photo/series/7795/1/717937.html
http://car.autohome.com.cn/photo/series/7795/1/717935.html
http://car.autohome.com.cn/photo/series/7795/1/717932.html
http://car.autohome.com.cn/photo/series/7795/1/717933.html

martin_krpan
05-18-2010, 09:54 AM
http://s2.mojalbum.com/kitajci-17-foto_4219952_17405240_18158222.jpg
http://s2.mojalbum.com/kitajci-30-foto_4219952_17407155_18193843.jpg
http://car.autohome.com.cn/photo/series/7795/10/718187.html
http://car.autohome.com.cn/photo/series/7795/10/718057.html
http://car.autohome.com.cn/photo/series/7795/10/718047.html
http://car.autohome.com.cn/photo/series/7795/3/717967.html
http://car.autohome.com.cn/photo/series/7795/3/718186.html
http://car.autohome.com.cn/photo/series/7795/3/717946.html


more:
http://car.autohome.com.cn/pic/series-s7795/2180.html
http://car.autohome.com.cn/pic/series/2180.html
http://product.xgo.com.cn/pic_list/3881/
http://che168.car.autohome.com.cn/pic/series_2011.htm

daewoo-chevrolet
05-18-2010, 02:43 PM
@ martin_krpan: Note that it's now called Chery Cowin 3. The QQ6 is renamed to Cowin 1 and the A5 to Cowin 3. Will the Chinese understand the name policy of Chery?

dragin
05-18-2010, 10:07 PM
So can we then say that the A15 Qiyun will be called the Cowin2?

MCV87
05-19-2010, 11:10 AM
I bet that the old A15 will be discontinued.
A possible Cowin2 is probably either the Fulwin2 liftback or a new model based on the A01-project.
This in only my guess but it sounds logical.

daewoo-chevrolet
05-30-2010, 04:59 AM
Prices of the Cowin 3 (& Cowin 1, Cowin 2)

http://img.autofan.com.cn/2010-05-28/10/65a2a9afed07.JPG

http://img.autofan.com.cn/2010-05-27/9/9abd4bf1ea5f.JPG

Source: http://info.autofan.com.cn/info/2010-05-27/10/10062485.xhtml

daewoo-chevrolet
12-15-2010, 06:05 AM
Spy shots of the Cowin E3, which will be positioned between the Cowin 3 and Riich G3:

http://i56.tinypic.com/24611l0.jpg

http://i56.tinypic.com/dli6c0.jpg

http://i51.tinypic.com/2gxi4o1.jpg

http://i56.tinypic.com/s6501g.jpg

Source: http://auto.sohu.com/20101213/n278261730.shtml

martin_krpan
01-18-2011, 10:53 AM
More pictures of Cowin E3:
http://news.bitauto.com/guochandiezhao/20110117/0905279701.html

Interior looks nice.


http://image.bitautoimg.com/hlimg/2011/0117/88/5340996623416177664.jpg
http://image.bitautoimg.com/hlimg/2011/0117/87/4268047248684518735.jpg
http://image.bitautoimg.com/hlimg/2011/0117/11/2064458518035297791.jpg

martin_krpan
03-18-2011, 10:20 AM
Cowin E3 first picture and specifications revealed:
http://www.autohome.com.cn/news/201103/181162.html

http://s2.mojalbum.com/avto5-foto_4219952_17440026_18584611.jpg

daewoo-chevrolet
03-23-2011, 09:59 AM
The rear:

http://m3.auto.itc.cn/car/1200/90/21/Img742190_1200.jpg

Source: http://auto.sohu.com/20110323/n304741954_1.shtml

daewoo-chevrolet
04-08-2011, 11:01 AM
http://img2.bitautoimg.com/autoalbum//files/20110402/931/15455793104730_1539409_550x366.JPG

http://img3.bitautoimg.com/autoalbum//files/20110402/931/15455793102862_1539410_550x366.JPG

http://img4.bitautoimg.com/autoalbum//files/20110402/931/15455793101445_1539411_550x366.JPG

Source: http://news.bitauto.com/dz/20110402/1605330205.html

http://m3.auto.itc.cn/car/1200/94/11/Img751194_1200.jpg

daewoo-chevrolet
04-08-2011, 11:01 AM
http://m1.auto.itc.cn/car/1200/96/11/Img751196_1200.jpg

http://m3.auto.itc.cn/car/1200/98/11/Img751198_1200.jpg

http://m1.auto.itc.cn/car/1200/92/11/Img751192_1200.jpg

http://m2.auto.itc.cn/car/1200/93/11/Img751193_1200.jpg

Source: http://auto.sohu.com/20110406/n305368373.shtml

daewoo-chevrolet
04-19-2011, 09:03 AM
Chery E5 @ Auto China Shanghai:

http://img3.cache.netease.com/photo/0008/2011-04-19/720D9TVE4L960008.jpg

http://img3.cache.netease.com/photo/0008/2011-04-19/720DA7IE4L960008.jpg

http://img3.cache.netease.com/photo/0008/2011-04-19/720DADFU4L960008.jpg

daewoo-chevrolet
04-19-2011, 09:03 AM
http://img3.cache.netease.com/photo/0008/2011-04-19/720DAE1I4L960008.jpg

http://img4.cache.netease.com/photo/0008/2011-04-19/720DAMFS4L960008.jpg

http://img3.cache.netease.com/photo/0008/2011-04-19/720DB3UK4L960008.jpg

55 photos: http://show.auto.163.com/2011sh/series/10769.html

daewoo-chevrolet
04-27-2011, 10:05 AM
More photos of the Chery E5:

http://img4.bitautoimg.com/autoalbum/files/20110418/088/23380108839793_1546079_3.JPG

http://img1.bitautoimg.com/autoalbum/files/20110418/104/23380110400035_1546080_3.JPG

http://img1.bitautoimg.com/autoalbum/files/20110418/197/23380119770222_1546092_3.JPG

http://img1.bitautoimg.com/autoalbum/files/20110419/252/15501825227672_1549932_3.JPG

daewoo-chevrolet
04-27-2011, 10:06 AM
http://img2.bitautoimg.com/autoalbum/files/20110418/197/23380119777008_1546093_3.JPG

http://img4.bitautoimg.com/autoalbum/files/20110418/275/23380127587570_1546103_3.JPG

http://img4.bitautoimg.com/autoalbum/files/20110418/307/23380130716767_1546107_3.JPG

http://img2.bitautoimg.com/autoalbum/files/20110418/291/23380129155836_1546105_3.JPG

77 photos: http://photo.bitauto.com/exhibit/picture/40896/0/

martin_krpan
06-16-2011, 12:43 PM
E5:
http://s2.mojalbum.com/avto8-foto_4219952_17454557_18827679.jpg

http://s2.mojalbum.com/avto8-foto_4219952_17454557_18827678.jpg

http://s2.mojalbum.com/avto8-foto_4219952_17454557_18827682.jpg

http://s2.mojalbum.com/avto8-foto_4219952_17454557_18827681.jpg

martin_krpan
06-16-2011, 12:44 PM
http://s2.mojalbum.com/avto8-foto_4219952_17454557_18827680.jpg

http://s2.mojalbum.com/avto8-foto_4219952_17454557_18827686.jpg

http://s2.mojalbum.com/avto8-foto_4219952_17454557_18827683.jpg

http://s2.mojalbum.com/avto8-foto_4219952_17454557_18827685.jpg

martin_krpan
06-16-2011, 12:45 PM
http://s2.mojalbum.com/avto8-foto_4219952_17454557_18827684.jpg

http://s2.mojalbum.com/avto8-foto_4219952_17454557_18827677.jpg

http://s2.mojalbum.com/avto8-foto_4219952_17454557_18827676.jpg

http://s2.mojalbum.com/avto8-foto_4219952_17454557_18827675.jpg

more:
http://car.autohome.com.cn/pic/series/2324.html
http://car.autohome.com.cn/pic/series-s9918/2324.html
http://product.xgo.com.cn/pic_list/4386/
http://che168.car.autohome.com.cn/pic/series_2150.htm

martin_krpan
07-06-2011, 10:48 AM
E5 is priced from 59.800 RMB upwards:
http://auto.sina.com.cn/z/CheryE5launch/
http://auto.sohu.com/s2011/e5ss/index.shtml
http://www.autohome.com.cn/news/201107/215501.html


http://s2.mojalbum.com/avto9-foto_4219952_17461972_18874724.jpg
http://img2d.xgo-img.com.cn/product/31_800x600/798/ceTHfpdm4gXtk.jpg
http://img2.xgo-img.com.cn/product/31_800x600/808/ceCzHYSowBFEc.jpg
http://img2f.xgo-img.com.cn/product/31_800x600/877/cebKSs8FFh8yQ.jpg