http://www.autoreview.ru/new_site/year2002/n23/crash/800/XTrail.jpg

The first truly independent road crash tests in China will begin 29th August with the Nissan X-Trail Sports Utility Vehicle the first car to undergo a trial smash. The new system was consistent with the international New Car Assessment Program (NCAP) and the test vehicles would be bought by the testing organization on the market rather than supplied by the manufacturer as was previously the case.

The Beijing Daily reported on Tuesday that the Chinese NCAP would be undertaken by the Beijing-based China Automotive Technology and Research Center, a body involved in setting national automotive standards. Liu Yuguang, director of the center's crash test laboratory, was quoted as saying that the center had bought six different vehicle models on the market for testing purposes.

The first test, on the Nissan X-Trail produced by Dongfeng Automobile Co. in Central China's Hubei Province, was expected to take place on Aug. 29, he said. By mid-October, the center would have completed tests on at least four models and published the test results, Liu said. With experience gained from crash tests on 1,200 vehicles since 1999 and the acquisition of new equipment in 2005, the center was proficient in international NCAP standards.

Liu said the new crash tests would be more objective and independent as all the costs would be borne by the center. The testing process and results would be open to the public. In the past, vehicles were brought to the laboratory by manufacturers and carmakers had no obligation to publish the results. The center planned to issue test results on 10 to 15 vehicles every year, Liu said.

Source: Xinhua

WOW thats fantastic :)

Is there an official website up yet ?

I found more information. Officially it's called "C-NCAP". Here's a website with pictures of Dongfeng-Nissan Tiida being tested:

http://www.pcauto.com.cn/safe/2006/C-NCAP_tiida/index.html

Atleast three cars were used in the tests.

http://www.pcauto.com.cn/safe/2006/C-NCAP_tiida/images/c1.jpg

What's the point of testing foreign cars anyway? We know they would all pass.

It's the Chinese cars that need to be tested at full 40 mph offset, not 35 mph as C-NCAP is doing.

Not True:

Australia's ANCAP tests foreign cars & the Holden Barina a rebadged Daewoo Kalos sucked and only got 2 stars.

&

Toyota was the 1st Manufacturer to lose a star in ANCAP with the previous Toyota Echo it was a 3 or 4 star rating then Toyota renmoved an airbag and it became a 2 or 3 star rating once ANCAP renewed testing of Echo.

Beijing-Hyundai Accent on test

http://cimg2.163.com/catchpic/B/BD/BDE9DC190103CDF701F7453AEFD7A673.jpg

Why haven't they done any of the local brands yet ?

Official Website www.c-ncap.org

Why haven't they done any of the local brands yet ?
Because they won't pass????

Why don't they test chinese cars? Well I can show you what would have happened if they had tested a Golf MK2 platform car like flag/windcloud or FAW-Jetta. A few years ago the austrian motoring organisation tested a Golf2...

The test opens with "Attention: life threatening danger!" and explains you basically have no chance of surviving a (NCAP standard) crash.

http://www.oeamtc.at/netautor/html_seiten/crashtest_kaefer_golf/golf2gr_det.jpg

http://www.oeamtc.at/netautor/html_seiten/crashtest_kaefer_golf/golf2_dummy.gif

Here's the video: http://www.oeamtc.at/netautor/html_seiten/crashtest_kaefer_golf/videos/golf2_video.mpg


Personally I don't think they will test cars based on these old platforms.

Chang'an-Ford Focus

http://www.c-ncap.org/news/images/20070621_2.JPG

http://www.c-ncap.org/news/images/20070621_1.JPG

Dongfeng-Honda Civic

http://www.c-ncap.org/news/images/070626_1.JPG

Haima-Mazda Family

http://www.c-ncap.org/news/images/20070607_1.jpg

http://www.c-ncap.org/news/images/20070607_4.jpg

http://www.c-ncap.org/news/xwdt/20070605.htm

FAW-Hongqi C301 (?)

http://www.c-ncap.org/news/images/20070531_1.jpg

http://www.c-ncap.org/news/images/20070531_4.jpg

http://www.c-ncap.org/news/xwdt/20070531.htm

Other cars tested this year:


Yueda-Kia Cerato

http://www.c-ncap.org/news/xwdt/20070524.htm

Honda Odyssey

http://www.c-ncap.org/news/xwdt/20070419_1.htm

FAW Weizi

http://www.c-ncap.org/news/xwdt/20070329.htm

Great Wall Hover

http://www.c-ncap.org/news/xwdt/20070322.htm

Byd F3

http://www.c-ncap.org/news/xwdt/20070111.htm

Changfeng Liebao Pajero

http://www.c-ncap.org/news/xwdt/20070412.htm

http://www.c-ncap.org/news/images/2007412_4.jpg

How many stars did they get?

I have no idea, sorry. I don't understand Chinese :(

Here is the test score comparing Chery A5 with GM, VW and Toyota

Chery A5 got three stars, its score is 37.6. GM: four stars, score:40.2 VW:four stars, score:40.3 . Toyota:fiver stars score:47.7

for the 100% front crash test: Chery A5 score is 13.5 even better than VW:12.32 and GM: got 13.55

http://www.c-ncap.org/content/pzjg/Blcyc.htm

But this is still not good enough from Chery, they must do better than this.

Btw I heard that the test production for Chery A6 finished several days ago. And its designed is based on european standards 8 airbags, harder steel ....etcc....

How many stars did Focus and Civic receive? On Euro-NCAP they proved to be very safe. And Chinese version shouldn't do any worse...

FAW Weizi 3star

"Yuyuan" Suzuki Swift: 4star

BYD F3 3star

New Hyundai Excel 3 star
http://www.c-ncap.org/content/pzjg/Alcyc/yakunte.htm


Geely MR7131A 2star (really low side impact score)
http://www.c-ncap.org/content/pzjg/Alcyc/jilizyj.htm

Dazhong FV7166 Polo sedan 4star
http://www.c-ncap.org/content/pzjg/Alcyc/yiqisuteng.htm

GWM Hover 3star (didn't I read a "4star EU NCAP score" somewhere?? ;) ) After an independent test it appears it's not so hot. :lol:
http://www.c-ncap.org/content/pzjg/suv/hafu.htm

Dongfeng-Nissan Teana tested

http://www.autoinfo.gov.cn/Jsp/news/eng/show.jsp?wenjian=xw&id=52764

my husband and i have been in china for many years. we should know how the chinese work.

one thing that you must be wary of is the fact that almost anything can be faked. in this case some of the results logged by the Chinese NCAP could be tampered with.

the chinese car manufacturers just have to bribe those who are directly responsible for the test results.

do you remember the case of the drug chief who was executed 2 weeks ago for massive corruption? during his tenure as chief of the national drug administration, he approved more than 11,000 kinds of drugs, some of which led to violent deaths in patients.

i would rather take the results released by the Chinese NCAP with a large pinch of salt. such results should be verified against those released by reputable organizations in europe, australia or the US

Bribes happen in any country, it's not unique to China. Some countries do a better job at "hiding" the bribes, some are less advanced in the bribing techniques, that's the only difference. Name me a country that never had problems with bribes???

At least China is doing something about it. The drug guy got executed for crying out loud. Can you get more harsh on the punishments?

I think Wendy got the point, and in the end of the day, for Chinese automakers to make it on world stage, they will need to go through european, and american crash tests. Ofc people have the rights to have doubts. And I believe passing or not passing Chinese crash test is really not that important, but passing the european and the american crash test is really important for any carmakers that want to have worldwide reputation. So we are waiting for Chery A6 and A6CC performance in european crash test soon and hope that they will pass with at least 3 or 4 stars (with my finger crossed)

But Wendy I think you are missing out something, I think crash tests will always have to come with pictures as evidence. Can anyone tell me please ,do foreign inspectors need to be at the scene during the n-ncap tests or just Chinese inspectors ?

waiting for the results

Latest results from C-NCAP:


Dongfeng-Nissan Teana:

score: 47,4 p
star: 5

Chang'an-Ford Focus:

score: 45,4
star: 4

Dongfeng-Honda Civic:

score: 44,5
star: 4

FAW Besturm:

score: 40,2
star: 4

Dongfeng-Yueda-Kia Cerato:

score: 33,1
star: 3

Haima Family:

score: 32,3
star: 3

SAIC-GM-Wuling Spark:

score: 27,2
star: 2

Car-safety tests provide home run


"CHINESE home-brand models are proving more reliable, with enhanced ratings in the latest domestic crash tests. The national official vehicle laboratory, the China Automotive Technology and Research Center, gave four stars to the Besturn sedan, China first self-branded model made by First Automotive Works Group. The announcement was made on Thursday in a statement posted on the CATRC Website.

This compared to a two-star assessment, the lowest rating, given to the Free Cruiser sedan, developed by Geely Holdings Group, and three stars to the A5 sedan made by Chery Automobile Co Ltd and the F3 sedan made by BYD Automobile Co Ltd in the same assessment program last year. The relative low ratings on China self-developed models once caused public concerns over quality issues during a time when national car makers were planing to break into more mature markets in their overseas ventures. All the test results were subject to the Chinese version of the New Car Assessment Program, an independent vehicle-assessment scheme that is similar to Euro-NCAP.

The national standard, launched last July, gave safety ratings on how passengers are protected after undergoing front, side and rear-end collisions. It is quite encouraging that Chinese-branded models are improving their safety standards after increased investment, said Jia Xinguang, an auto expert in Beijing. Zhao Hang, director of the CATRC, said that Chinese car makers need more efforts on equipment like airbags compar ed with foreign rivals in the same segment.

Nissan Teana premier sedan and Ford Focus economy car achieved the top five-star ratings and the institute gave four stars to Honda Civic. Zhang said compact cars are still generally short on quality and need further attention.

In the same series of tests, Shanghai-GM-Wuling Spark subcompact won two stars while Kia Cerato and Haima Family, developed on a Mazda model, achieved three. Brilliance Zunchi sedan, which has launched mass exports to Germany, suffered from bad ratings in crash tests in Europe last month. The car maker said the failure was a ruse by rivals to damage its brand image.

The introduction of C-NCAP, which imposes stricter requirements than the existing national crash tests before models are produced, aims to lift the awareness of auto safety and encourage car makers to improve technology."


- China Daily -

Because they won't pass????

you are hilarious, really.

in August, they will test Yuejin.

http://www.c-ncap.org/news/zxdt/070727.htm

Nanjing-Fiat Perla tested

http://www.autoinfo.gov.cn/en/news_pictures/200708/20070807_1.jpg

http://www.autoinfo.gov.cn/en/news_pictures/200708/20070807_3.jpg

Landwind Fengshang "Fashion" MPV

http://www.autoinfo.gov.cn/en/news_pictures/200708/20070814_1.jpg

http://www.autoinfo.gov.cn/en/news_pictures/200708/20070814_3.jpg

I will introduce C-ncap later.

Anybody interested in C-NCAP?
Below is the brief introduction:
http://photo1.bababian.com/upload3/20070818/9B587B0D453F013B0DEEBA3D2DE6FC1A_500.jpg

1.what's C-NCAP?
official website: http://www.c-ncap.org/

According to NCAP and China autocar as well as china road regular to define the C-NCAP crash test and score standard. It's China NCAP.

2.what's the test content of C-NCAP?
1) Totally 100% crash with 50KM/h
http://photo1.bababian.com/upload3/20070818/B2971B7F53BF9C68DBA1667A8B146082_500.jpg

2) 40% crash with 56KM/h
http://photo1.bababian.com/upload3/20070818/A1E39E8A340C66B1FBB30320502D76C0_500.jpg


3) side crash with 50KM/h
http://photo1.bababian.com/upload3/20070818/704A8D2769A864365AE745CE7B4EB5CC_500.jpg

Score standard

http://photo1.bababian.com/upload3/20070818/D8FB0D1BD9975B866150FCADB1DB4E53_500.jpg

Totally score is 48 points
additional scores: Safe belt alarm device (+2 points)
side air bags (+1 points)

The max score is 51 points

Star points regular


≥50 points 5+ （★★★★★☆）
≥45 and ＜50 5 （★★★★★）
≥40 and ＜45 4 （★★★★）
30 and ＜40 3 （★★★）
≥15 and ＜30 2 （★★）
＜15 1 （★）

i have seen many Chinese car been crashed.........bt most of them were very weak in test

I hope it improves.......:)

Its all about crumble zones and number of welds per inch, its not rocket science, if they already build for Honda, BMW, MB, GM and most of the large auto makers it shouldn't be too hard !

FAW-Audi A6L 2,0T

http://www1.autoinfo.gov.cn/Jsp/news/eng/show.jsp?wenjian=xw&id=49249

http://www1.autoinfo.gov.cn/en/news_pictures/200708/20070830_1.jpg

Chery QQ6

http://www1.autoinfo.gov.cn/en/news_pictures/200709/20070906_2.jpg

http://www1.autoinfo.gov.cn/en/news_pictures/200709/20070906_1.jpg

EdT

Agreed

Chery QQ6

http://www1.autoinfo.gov.cn/en/news_pictures/200709/20070906_2.jpg

http://www1.autoinfo.gov.cn/en/news_pictures/200709/20070906_1.jpg


this doesnt seem that bad..is it going 60?

CNCAP is 56km/h, slower and less demanding than 64km/h US/EU tests.

but it is relevant since in US, UK, people have the ability to go fast in comparison to asian nations

Well I don't get your point, cars can always travel faster than 64km/h except for city traffic. Most accidents accur at local roads, not at highways.
And the simple fact is that all over Asia traffic is very dangerous because of reckless drivers. People drive too fast, don't obey rules and don't care about their own or others safety. So for China they should make it more strick, increase the test speed to 70km/h.

Let's get to the point: the only reason for lowering the test speed is politics. It's a lot easier and cheaper to pass a 56km/h test, giving the Chinese carmakers a chance to show some 'good safety scores' without big investments. They are simply protecting their local market.

Every time I fly back home from China I'm relieved I survived all the crazy buses (overtaking cars on a dark evening road with headlights coming straight at us), taxis (cant use seatbelt) and private drivers. (driver isn't crazy, but the rest of the traffic is still trying to kill you).

So please, let's do our best to make chinese cars safer, to protect the passengers that don't want to die yet :D

but doesn't it also make foreign brands have higher scores than Chinese cars, so how does it help Chinese cars to protect their market ?

Because they will have reasonably good scores instead of no score at all!
And it's very easy to get the max amount of stars.

Newest crash test results:
http://www.autohome.com.cn/news/200710/28461-1.html

Fiat Perla: 31 points (***)
Landwind Fashion: 34.3 pts (***)
Audi A6L: 48.1 pts (*****)
Chery QQ6: 26.1 pts (**)
Toyota Corolla: 48.8 pts (*****)
Skoda Octavia: 45.3 pts (*****)
Citroen C4 sedan: 47.4 pts (*****)
Buick Park Avenue: 47.6 pts (*****)

thanks JIKKI, this is usefull info!

Newest crash test results:
http://www.autohome.com.cn/news/200710/28461-1.html

Fiat Perla: 31 points (***)
Landwind Fashion: 34.3 pts (***)
Audi A6L: 48.1 pts (*****)
Chery QQ6: 26.1 pts (**)
Toyota Corolla: 48.8 pts (*****)
Skoda Octavia: 45.3 pts (*****)
Citroen C4 sedan: 47.4 pts (*****)
Buick Park Avenue: 47.6 pts (*****)


Chery did quite bad there I'd say

Any other models of Chery that score good ?

Is there any result for Brilliance ?

I made a list with all the C-NCAP results, I hope it's complete:

http://img516.imageshack.us/img516/7694/cncaprh0.png

Hi Daewoo-Chevrolet.

Any info on the infamous Chery Flagcloud/Amulet ?

Excellent list daewoo-chevrolet! I suggest we continue to update it whenever new crash tests occur.

Thanks martin_krpan! That's a good suggestion, because you can see then of the result is good or bad in comparison with competitors.

Chang'an Benben

http://www1.autoinfo.gov.cn/en/news_pictures/200711/071108-1.jpg

http://www1.autoinfo.gov.cn/en/news_pictures/200711/071108-2.jpg

http://www1.autoinfo.gov.cn/en/news_pictures/200711/071108-4.jpg

Zhonghua Splendor

http://www1.autoinfo.gov.cn/en/news_pictures/200711/071101-1.jpg

http://www1.autoinfo.gov.cn/en/news_pictures/200711/071101-2.jpg

Roof gave up a little bit :(

Soueast Lioncel

http://www1.autoinfo.gov.cn/en/news_pictures/200711/071127-1.jpg

http://www1.autoinfo.gov.cn/en/news_pictures/200711/071129-1.jpg

http://www1.autoinfo.gov.cn/en/news_pictures/200711/071129-3.jpg

Hmmm.... never heard of this car before.

It is a Mitsubishi Lancer. Soueast Dongnan is Mitsubishi's joint-venture company and as from 2005 model year Soueast cars have been sold as Mitsubishi's (with a Mitsubishi diamond).

Raul, great pics. But how did those cars perform at C-NCAP? How many stars did they receive?

It is a Mitsubishi Lancer. Soueast Dongnan is Mitsubishi's joint-venture company and as from 2005 model year Soueast cars have been sold as Mitsubishi's (with a Mitsubishi diamond).

Thanks a lot for the explanation

It an old Lancer type, 2 generations ago (sold in US/EU until 2003).

Raul, great pics. But how did those cars perform at C-NCAP? How many stars did they receive?

I couldn't find anything in english from C-NCAP website

http://www.c-ncap.org/

You can check it too if you have a better luck. Some test results can be found from page 3 in this thread.


--------------------------------

Chang'an-Suzuki Liana tested

http://www.c-ncap.org/news/xczj/images/071120_1.jpg

http://www.c-ncap.org/news/xczj/images/071120_2.jpg

visit http://www.autotao.cn/index.php?go=category_12 to get more about C-Ncap

Thanks for the update.

Dongfeng-Honda CR-V (DHW6454)

http://www1.autoinfo.gov.cn/en/news_pictures/200711/071220-1.jpg

http://www1.autoinfo.gov.cn/en/news_pictures/200711/071220-4.jpg

I think C-NCAP will publish the crash test results at January 7th with the last tested cars: the Zhonghua Junjie (Brilliance BS4), the Suzuki Liana, the Chang'an CV6 (Ben Ben), the Honda CR-V and the Hafei Lubao (Lobo), they did it in the same way in October.
PDF-file about these six cars in Chinese: http://www.c-ncap.org/news/zxdt/071229.pdf

Hafei Lubao:

http://www.c-ncap.org.cn/news/xczj/images/071213_4.jpg
http://www.c-ncap.org.cn/news/xczj/images/071211_1.jpg
http://www.c-ncap.org.cn/news/xczj/images/071212_1.jpg

Source: http://www.c-ncap.org.cn/

Latest C-NCAP results:

* Brilliance BS4 - 3 stars
http://www.moj-album.com/slike/4219952/n_vMY9WAAT_Jy6IZ.jpg

* Hafei Lobo - 2 stars
http://www.moj-album.com/slike/4219952/BN8b5xD9laU5jk39.jpg

* Chang’an Ben Ben - 2 stars
http://www.moj-album.com/slike/4219952/0IUkQt0KceCWgDRw.jpg

I have updated the list with all the new results and some results I was forgotten the previous time. The results of the Chinese cars are really disappointing me. I like the styling of the Ben Ben a lot, but the crash test results is poor.

http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j3/daewoo-chevrolet/c-ncap20081.jpg

Latest C-NCAP results:

* Brilliance BS4 - 3 stars
http://www.moj-album.com/slike/4219952/n_vMY9WAAT_Jy6IZ.jpg

* Hafei Lobo - 2 stars
http://www.moj-album.com/slike/4219952/BN8b5xD9laU5jk39.jpg

* Chang’an Ben Ben - 2 stars
http://www.moj-album.com/slike/4219952/0IUkQt0KceCWgDRw.jpg


Chang'an Ben Ben 2 stars , tjhis can't be serious. Looking at other pics of Ben Ben crash, one can see that Ben Ben outperformed Lobo.

I have updated the list with all the new results and some results I was forgotten the previous time. The results of the Chinese cars are really disappointing me. I like the styling of the Ben Ben a lot, but the crash test results is poor.


It seems like Chery and Brilliance still have alot to do with the quality control until they can score 50 points in C- Ncap then we can safely say that they will perform well in Euro Ncap.

Do you have any results on Chery Flagcloud aka Amulet aka Cowin ? Thanks.

it's quite interesting to see that hyundai accent has such low points comparison to Honda fit. I'm not saying accent is safer than fit..just thought it's closer than the one showing on the list..

http://autos.msn.com/research/vip/safety.aspx?year=2006&make=Hyundai&model=Accent

http://autos.msn.com/research/vip/safety.aspx?year=2007&make=Honda&model=Fit

And I guess....A5,Hover,lioncel,Fashion doesn't have problem to enter US market at least for the safety aspect then the last thing to fix should be the emission. It means the day to enter US market should be very close. Good work..

It is better to prevent the illness than cure it, therefore I think it is best for them to achieve the max score in C-Ncap first before thinking about Euro-Ncap and North America.

Chang'an Ben Ben 2 stars , tjhis can't be serious. Looking at other pics of Ben Ben crash, one can see that Ben Ben outperformed Lobo.

No you can't see it. You have to feel it. It's not about which car has a seemingly stronger body, it about which car protects and cushions the occupants. The BenBen has a very rigid front that hardly crumples. Instead the steering wheel and dashboard are moved backwards with the driver slamming head first into it. That's why it got a bad score. The lobo has a softer front and it absorbs most of the energy before reaching the dashboard.

Hello i'm from mexico and since the last month there's been a lot of controversy about the FAW industry entering the country. Many people claim those cars do not pass the crash tests so they are absolutely unreliable.
I've been searching on the net but i cannot find any official information that supports this or gives me an official answers.
Can anybody help me on this?

Those people want to paint everything with the same big brush. Just because Brilliance BS6 and Chery Amulet do not pass crash tests, that does not mean other Chinese cars can't do well in crash test, take the BYD F3 for example, it passes crash test.

Btw I heard that the arrival of Chinese cars is being welcomed by positive comments from Mexican media

Yes Chinese brands are making improvements on their most recently released small family cars / SUV models, however all cars that were released more than ~2 years ago are basically death traps. And the smaller city cars are often also still a danger for the occupants.

So far in the "seemingly OK" category we have:
BYD F3
Lifan 520
Chery A3/A5
FAW Benteng
GWM Hover
Shuanghuan CEO
Brilliance BS6 EU spec.

Maybe I forgot one or two, but thats about it.

you know what ... the nation is going to be the next USA and Motor industry is not going to be aloof. So the standards have to be at par with European and US standards if not better.

First, China is still a developing country, China needs to get developed status first before thinking about being the next USA.

"Developing" thats an understatment !, I wish our infrastructures here in North America was developing since most are literally crumbling whereas China use 50% of the world's steel and concrete building new cities from scratch every two years. At the current rate China would be building the equilvalent of all US major cities in less than 7 years !

Seven years would be about right, but around Guangdong provence a lot of bridges have been ripped up and the road relaid with higher quality re-inforcement. It appears someone got caught taking shortcuts. This short cut approach is what worries me most. The car gets a crash rating and something will be changed to make it cheaper and no one will notify anyone. It ahppens with electronic products and it will happen with cars. The industry needs to have independant watchdogs (China Standards perhaps) making sure that what gets approved is the same as what is produced and sold both locally and export.

Mazda 3 - latest car tested by C-NCAP:
http://auto.sohu.com/20080226/n255355128.shtml


http://photocdn.sohu.com/20080225/Img255355129.jpg
http://photocdn.sohu.com/20080225/Img255355142.jpg


Can somebody find out how many stars did the car receive?

in North American tests the Mazda 3 failed poorly on its side door impact

any updates ?

I think we need a general international and indipendent organization of control. It must be establisched a general code of safety for all cars industries

I updated the list with all the C-NCAP crash test results:

http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j3/daewoo-chevrolet/c-ncap.jpg

so best Chinese car HongQi is 4 stars

This crash test list is totally absent of Mitsubishi's, I notice and wonder about. Which just includes SUV's now IIRC, anyway. The new Lancer Sport and Lancer EVO is soon to be built in China for China, too.

Chery QQ6

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FnXT1agrus4&feature=related

I updated the list with all the C-NCAP crash test results:

http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j3/daewoo-chevrolet/c-ncap.jpg

wow base on the video of QQ6 above, i don't know why it got 2 stars, is it really that strict ?

i think is because the QQ6 in the video dont have air bags, add them and at least 2 stars more...

Hi,

I am kinda new here. I am from Malaysia and I work in the automotive industry as well.

When I heard about C-NCAP, and how E-NCAP was also roped in to help out the initial set up, I personally think it was a good move by the China government.

Of course, hiccups would be there and perhaps some sort of bribery might also enter the picture but whatever it is, China has started embarking on this issue.

In Malaysia, we do not have our own crash test ability. Although we have a few national car companies (the biggest is of course, Proton), the crash standards are based on EU, ADR and GC type approvals.

But China cars (represented in Malaysia by Chery and also a rebadged Haifa Lobo) have not been receiving good response, eventhough they are cheap.

Build quality and also materials used are way below par, even compared to Proton. I have driven all of them (Chery A160, Chery B240, Chery Tiggo and the Haifa Lobo) and I think the Tiggo is the best.

Build quality aside, the AVR engine and the Lotus tuned suspension really made the small RAV4 lookalike SUV felt lively. In fact, I love it.

My other comment is that China manufacturers should be more original in their design (which I think is what they are doing now) and to focus more on the interior quality.

wow, thank you for this.

In regards to matter of bribery, so far I believe (my own opionion) that this has not happened as one can see from the table point score, most Chinese cars (if not all) get low rating from 2 stars to 3 stars (or even 1) compared to foreign marqes like Japanese and German, the best Chinese brand so far with high score so far is FAW (with their hongqi).

Can you generalise the kind of responses about Chery cars in Malaysia ?

What do you think the future hold for Chinese cars in Malaysia ?

What do Malaysian people think about their proton or perodua ?


PS : what is the latest proton model that go through Euro-Ncap test ? cos so far the only Proton model I see in the Euro-Ncap test is the impian.


thank you.

I read someday that Proton cars were the least reliable cars from Malaysia, Perodua scored much better. In my opinion Malaysian cars (Proton, Perodua, Naza & Inokom) aren't more original in their design than for example Chery, Brilliance or JAC (Jianghuai). And the Proton Impian (Waja in Malaysia) scored only 3 stars (18 points): http://www.euroncap.com/tests/proton_impian_2002/116.aspx I think that the Chery A5 had the same result or even better in C-NCAP with 37,6 points and 3 stars.

Did A5 go through Euro-Ncap ? When ? C-Ncap is for 56 kmph though , Euro-Ncap is 64 kmph.

No, like I said the Chery A5 scored 37,6 points/3 stars in C-NCAP.
A comparison: the Kia Cerato (http://www.euroncap.com/tests/kia_cerato_2006/249.aspx) scored in Euro NCAP 19 points/3 stars and in C-NCAP 33,1 points, but the Chery A5 had a better result in C-NCAP. The Proton Impian/Waja scored 18 points/3 stars in Euro NCAP, worse than the Cerato, so the Chery A5 is probably safer than the Proton Impian/Waja and even safer than the Kia Cerato.

oh thanks I see. my guess is Chery just needs to work on the A5 a bit more then send it to Euro-Ncap then I think it can achieve 4 stars.

I am not trying to put down C-ncap but I think people will only take Chinese cars seriously when it scores high in Euro-Ncap.

I don't even know how this KIA carnival even got 2 stars in Euro-Ncap

http://www.euroncap.com/tests/kia_carnival_sedona_2003/167.aspx

Well, the perception on China cars are even lower than Proton cars.

To say that Proton and Perodua cars are not reliable is not entirely true. Basically, many IT savvy Malaysians do not really understand the industry and they based they judgement more on hearsay.

Proton sells hundreds of thousands of cars, compared to other brands. Due to that, of course the amount of problem is higher than the other brands.

Having said that, Proton does have some battle to win in terms of QC, but compared to the China cars sold in Malaysia, AND some of the cars I saw at the international motorshows, the Protons are generally better.

Of late, Proton cars have seen a wave of changes, thanks to the new management (which is Toyota trained). QC is up and thank god, the company retained its enhanced handling port folio in the cars.

I am not pro Proton, there are many other brands better and Proton still has a lot to learn, but do check some Autralian and South African websites and read their reviews about Proton Satria Neo or Proton Persona.

Don't really trust the English (as in UK) websites. They are still sore about Proton taking over Lotus.

As for the Euro NCAP testing, do remember that it is up to ENCAP to choose the cars they would like to test. Proton is a low volume seller in Europe, and so far only the Impian was tested. It got 3 star rating back then, equivalent to the 407 and Audi A4 (at that time too). If the test is done now, I doubt it will get the same score as the new ruling (pedestrian crash testing) makes the test even tougher.

But Proton does its onw testing and bear in mind PRoton cars have been type approved to enter European, Australian, South African and Gulf market. You cannot enter those market WITHOUT doing crash tests that adhered to their standards.

So far, no countries except China has approved of the CNCAP yet.

Cheers.

Hi all am in South Africa and we have just had the GWM Hover Launched Here with a four star ncap rating and it is causeing a still with the locals.

The sales pich gose that it has undergone crash testing that is the same if not better than the NCAP. is this true ?


and one that point we have just had some media releas stating that GWM
has the longest and most advanced crash test facility in Chaina being 225 meters long that is up to standerd with NCAP spesifications.

All the Chinese Ncap (C-Ncap) procedures and equipments I believe are supplied and certified by Germany.

And which Ncap are you referring and comparing to ?

All the Chinese Ncap (C-Ncap) procedures and equipments I believe are supplied and certified by Germany.

And which Ncap are you referring and comparing to ?


The Eu-NCAP

What's with the 5+ ratings?

The result is satisfied

can we trust this test?

C-NCAP have tested the Lifan 520 (which scored the worst performance in C-NCAP ever), the Foton MP-X (3 stars), the Kia Rio (3 stars), Nissan Livina (4 stars), Geely FC-1 Vision (4 stars - with 42,2 points the best Chinese car ever), the Chevrolet Epica (5 stars) and the BMW 3 series (also a 5 star rating).

Source: http://www.pcauto.com.cn/news/hyxw/0807/673787.html

I have updated the list with all the C-NCAP results:

http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j3/daewoo-chevrolet/c-ncap1.jpg

What the hell

How did the Lifan 520 pass the Russian test ? http://www.gasgoo.com/auto-news/3811/China-s-Lifan-passes-crash-test-in-Russia.html

I think I am going to take some pills now.

I did not really expect that from Geely.

Is Geely FC-1 Vision the one Geely brought to the Detroit Auto show in January ?

We haven't seen any big leap from Chery , what was the highest score of Chery from the last update, Daewoo ?

safety is one thing, reliability is another, for the time being , Geely's reliability image in China is still low.

The Geely FC-1 (Vision) is this Toyota Corolla-copy:

http://www.thetycho.com/galleries/geely_fc_1.jpg

http://www.thetycho.com/galleries/geely_fc_2.jpg

C-NCAP didn't test any Chery the last months, so there are still only two Chery's tested by C-NCAP and the A5 scored the best with 37,6 points.

Daewoo

the picture of the last crash test ranking update is not there anymore, I think the link is dead.

Can you please repost it ?

Thanks.

C-NCAP results

hello daewoo! do you know how the Chery Tiggo 2.0 is ranked?

Also, anyone knows if the Tiggo 2.0 made in Uruguay is as safety as the chinese model?

Thanks in advance.

Hello Incon, C-NCAP hasn't tested the Chery Tiggo yet. I would expect a 3 star rating for the Tiggo.

thank you very much daewoo. And do you think the Tiggo3 currently being manufactured in China and Tiggo 2.0 made in Uruguay have both the same rating, or the 3 star is just for the chinese model?

Update of the list:

http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j3/daewoo-chevrolet/c-ncap.jpg

New in the list: the Shuanghuan Noble (S6), Toyota Yaris, Hyundai Elantra, Volkswagen Lavida, Ford Mondeo and Hongqi HQ3.
Coming soon: BYD F6.

Source: http://www.c-ncap.org/content/pzjg/xxcyc.htm

wow Geely FC-1 beat some Honda and Nissan models too. Hongqi HQ3 did very well.

Chery's score just does not seem to improve at all, oh well maybe it is because of the same model A5 again.

There's too many arguments between manufactrues and C-NCAP.The CCTV-2 special program to interview the in charger of C-NCAP,the C-NCAP is not a free test the manufacture need to pay for the test.So,it's justice is unclear.

Do car manufacturers in Europe have to pay for Euro-Ncap tests ?

Wow, I think they're now stepping up in order to provide a new level of safety.

Do car manufacturers in Europe have to pay for Euro-Ncap tests ?


No they don't. The car is acquired by the local ENCAP lab, they will choose the best selling trim car (= entry level) and get it from a dealership.
They usually don't test niche models like chinese cars or cabriolets. Those tests are done by national consumer organisations like ADAC (germany) or ANWB (netherlands).

But the manufacturer can sponsor additional ENCAP tests if they want, for example a re-test after improvements or a model with some extra features like side bags not found in the cheaper type. ENCAP will update the website after the sponsored re-test.

Remember the list I made of all the Chinese cars tested according EuroNCAP rules. See http://www.chinesecars.net/index.php?page=57
greetings!

Chery, SAIC cars get five-star ranking in crash tests

2008-12-24


China's domestically made cars are making progress in terms of safety, with the Chery A3 and SAIC Roewe 550 getting five-star rankings in crash tests, said the China Automotive Technology and Research Center (CATARC) in Tianjin on Wednesday.

Only one star below the top rank, it is the best result ever achieved by domestic-made vehicles. The Hongqi car got such a ranking earlier this year, said the CATARC director Zhao Hang.

The Mercedes-Benz C200 from Beijing Benz-DaimlerChrysler Automotive Co and Faw-Volkswagen's New Bora also got five stars in the fourth batch of crash tests of seven models.

The center tested 28 models in 2008, bringing the total number of tested domestic models to 65, which came from 90 percent of the domestic auto manufacturers, CATARC official Wu Wei said.

Testing started in 2006.

The proportion of five-star cars rose from 8.3 percent in 2006 to 36 percent in 2007 and 46 percent in 2008, Wu said.

More than 30 percent of all tested models got only two- or three-star results, said Wu.


http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/bizchina/2008-12/24/content_7337997.htm

Article at Autohome:
http://www.autohome.com.cn/news/200812/52210.html

The recent C-NCAP performance[/SIZE]
http://img.autohome.com.cn/2008/12/24/24-14-2-36-159851533.jpg
http://img.autohome.com.cn/2008/12/24/24-14-2-35-302697493.jpg
http://img.autohome.com.cn/2008/12/24/24-14-2-33-159851533.jpg

VM new Bora - 5 stars
http://img.autohome.com.cn/2008/12/24/24-13-59-59-253660686.jpg

http://img.autohome.com.cn/2008/12/24/24-13-59-56-445543452.jpg

Chery A3 - 5 stars
http://img.autohome.com.cn/2008/12/24/24-14-0-32-859989233.jpg
http://img.autohome.com.cn/2008/12/24/24-14-0-25-769482054.jpg

Benz C-class - 5 stars
http://img.autohome.com.cn/2008/12/24/24-14-0-40-909026040.jpg

http://img.autohome.com.cn/2008/12/24/24-14-0-37-658200547.jpg

Roewe 550 - 5 stars
http://img.autohome.com.cn/2008/12/24/24-14-0-45-497882233.jpg

JAC Bingyue - 3 stars
http://img.autohome.com.cn/2008/12/24/24-14-0-50-609163740.jpg

Zoty 2008 - 3 stars
http://img.autohome.com.cn/2008/12/24/24-13-59-50-859989233.jpg

http://img.autohome.com.cn/2008/12/24/24-13-59-47-285225138.jpg
http://img.autohome.com.cn/2008/12/24/24-13-59-44-786876125.jpg

New Bora gets five stars in China's crash tests

December 26, 2008
Shanghai, December 26 (Gasgoo.com) China Automotive Technology and Research Center (CATARC) yesterday announced the crash test results of this year's fourth batch of seven models. The FAW-VW's New Bora is ranked five stars along with Chery A3, SAIC Roewe 550, Beijing Benz-DaimlerChrysler's Mercedes-Benz C200.

In the latest auto crash tests of "Chinese New Car Assessment Program" (C-NCAP, like Euro-NCAP), no car model got the top ranking of six stars. In addition to the four models of five stars, BYD F6 got four stars, and Jianghuai Binyue and New Zotye 2008 got three starts. A Hongqi car of FAW is said to have got the top ranking earlier this year.

The test crashes have been conducted in north Chinese city of Tianjin. CATARC official said that the C-NCAP operators this time bought the 21 units of the seven models directly from these brands' 4S stores or dealerships without the carmakers' knowledge. Three cars of each model then underwent three crash tests after the exhaust emission and fuel consumption testing. The test results were ranked by the C-NCAP standards.

The center tested 28 models in 2008, bringing the total number of tested domestic models to 65, which came from 90% of the domestic auto manufacturers. The proportion of five-star cars rose from 8.3% in 2006 (when the testing started) to 36% in 2007 and 46% in 2008.

Industry experts said that the five-star models are mostly the high-end vehicle products with better safety configurations and can represent all the products of the same series.

http://www.gasgoo.com/auto-news/1008867/New-Bora-gets-five-stars-in-China-s-crash-tests.html

There's too many arguments between manufactrues and C-NCAP.The CCTV-2 special program to interview the in charger of C-NCAP,the C-NCAP is not a free test the manufacture need to pay for the test.So,it's justice is unclear.

Then this is quite contradictory then .

The test crashes have been conducted in north Chinese city of Tianjin. CATARC official said that the C-NCAP operators this time bought the 21 units of the seven models directly from these brands' 4S stores or dealerships without the carmakers' knowledge. Three cars of each model then underwent three crash tests after the exhaust emission and fuel consumption testing. The test results were ranked by the C-NCAP standards.


http://www.gasgoo.com/auto-news/1008867/New-Bora-gets-five-stars-in-China-s-crash-tests.html

Wow, nice to see, that this cars are safe and good as EU, US, Japan... cars.
But don't stop here;)

Welcome to CCF fellow countryman.

Update of the list:

http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j3/daewoo-chevrolet/c-ncaplist.jpg

New in the list: Chery A3, Volkswagen Lavida, Roewe 550, Mercedes-Benz C-Class, BYD F6, Jianghuai Bingyue, Zotye 2008

Source: http://www.c-ncap.org/content/pzjg/xxcyc.htm

Video of Roewe 550 crash test:
http://www.worldcarfans.com/9081230.013/video-roewe-550-receives-5-stars-in-chinese-ncap-crash-tests

I have updated the list with all the new results and some results I was forgotten the previous time. The results of the Chinese cars are really disappointing me. I like the styling of the Ben Ben a lot, but the crash test results is poor.

Do you have some test result for Brilliance Coupe (Zhonghua Kubao)?
Thanks!

I have updated the list with all the new results and some results I was forgotten the previous time.
What previous time? You have never posted before today ;)

WOW thats fantastic

Is there an official website up yet ?

I think that the CNcap test shows a great advantage compared to other rating crash tests (EuNcap / IIHS / NHTSA USNcap) as they are combining an ODB (offset deformable barrier) and a FFB (full frontal barrier).

The biggest structural challenges of an ODB test is to control footwell & steering wheel intrusion, provided that the back up structure does it's job. The accelleration pulse "felt" by the passengers is quite soft compared to the one of a FFB test which render a lot more violence to the passengers but less intrusion.

The strategy for meeting FFB or ODB requirements are often totally different. In an FFB, a rather soft structure is an advantage to keep the violence down as intrusion is not an issue. Though, in an ODB, the structure must be stiff enough to prevent excessive intrusion.

Combining these to tests makes sure that the car maker is not optimizing for the one or the other which is the case for some of the EU carmakers. Renault, Citroen or Peugeot for instance, are not sold in the US and therefore they don't have to pay any attention to FFB tests (none are performed in Europe) and can solely optimize for ODB's as described above. This is avoided with "dual tests" as in the CNCAP.

I read somewhere this week that the E-NCAP gave the 2009 BS-4 and BS-6 "zero" stars based on their new testing criteria, if it was tested against their old criteria it would have gained a 3-4 star crash rating equivalent to a 3 series BMW and earlier generation Mercedes E-Class !

Latest results:
Great Wall Peri: 35,4 points - ★★★ stars
Honda Fit 46,4 points - ★★★★★ stars
Skoda Fabia 45,6 points - ★★★★★ stars
Citroën C4 44,8 points - ★★★★ stars
Haima3 40,1 points - ★★★★ stars
Nissan Qashqai 47,2 points - ★★★★★ stars

Source: http://www.autohome.com.cn/news/200904/59058.html

Update of the list:

http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j3/daewoo-chevrolet/c-ncaplistapril2009.jpg

Daewoo, this is some GREAT information.......I've never seen this list before. A few real surprises here........The Brilliance BS4 scored really low, barely squeaking into the 3 star ratings - and the Peri OUTSCORED the BS4 - by a lot!:eek: A LOT of cars outscored the BS4.......Daewoo, is it possible to also include the DATE of testing? I'm wondering WHEN the BS4 was tested.......if it was a older test than I have to hope that Brilliance has improved upon the BS4. I'm also surprised that the BS6 and the FRV have NOT been tested yet......the Yaris is already there and so is the Lavida and they are newer than the BS6 and FRV. Kudos to Chery for getting a 5 star rating with the A3 - the ONLY Chinese branded auto under 100,000rmb to achieve this. Keep posting results as you get them Daewoo.........this is great stuff!!:thumb:

Hello Friends,

Dear Members As i have seen the car crash test in china well it was amazing and really wonder to see they tested using different car of toughness of model because they are seeing the safety of person they make one artificial on and put it in car and after that they will crash the car and by these way they can see how toughness of the model is?

http://www.c-ncap.org/

this is the official site,

I think why they tested some japanese cars first is to demo their standard, and you can compare with US or Euro results.

if they only test Chinese cars, and if some cars passed,
those China haters will start to mumbling that the C-NCAP is not real independent, the Chinese gov or the communist party is behind it, blar blar.

You will see such comments come out sooner or later.

Anyway, it seems some Chinese cars were tested already.

It is very good every car company should do like this.

Newest C-NCAP crash test results.

Dongfeng Joyear- 3 stars
http://img.autohome.com.cn/2009/6/30/30-15-1-55-937210236.jpg
http://img.autohome.com.cn/2009/6/30/30-14-39-39-742025496.jpg

Kia Sportage - 4 stars
http://img.autohome.com.cn/2009/6/30/30-15-1-58-540236810.jpg
http://img.autohome.com.cn/2009/6/30/30-14-39-53-379918496.jpg

ChangAn CV8 - 4 stars
http://img.autohome.com.cn/2009/6/30/30-15-2-2-933908263.jpg
http://img.autohome.com.cn/2009/6/30/30-14-38-49-327579716.jpg

Toyota Vios - 5 stars
http://img.autohome.com.cn/2009/6/30/30-15-2-8-257846865.jpg
http://img.autohome.com.cn/2009/6/30/30-14-38-53-435559250.jpg

Chevrolet Cruze - 5 stars
http://img.autohome.com.cn/2009/6/30/30-15-2-14-543538783.jpg
http://img.autohome.com.cn/2009/6/30/30-14-39-12-613349919.jpg


Complete article at:
http://www.autohome.com.cn/news/200906/64243.html


P.S.
daewoo-chevrolet can you update your list with these newest results?

The ChangAn CV8 it's the Chery A3 fighter?

@ martin_krpan: Here it is:

http://i497.photobucket.com/albums/rr332/rutgervandermaar/c-ncap7-2009.jpg

New in the list: Toyota Weichi (Vios), ChangAn Zhixiang (CV8), Chevrolet Cruze, Dongfeng Joyear (Jingyi) and Kia Sportage.
Source: http://www.c-ncap.org/

Thanks daewoo-chevrolet :thumb:

Newest results:
http://www.autohome.com.cn/news/200909/71333-1.html

Hyundai Elantra - 4 stars
http://img.autohome.com.cn/2009/9/24/24-18-17-56-683888692.jpg

Mazda 6 - 5 stars
http://img.autohome.com.cn/2009/9/24/24-18-17-51-844207006.jpg

BYD F0 - only 3 stars
http://img.autohome.com.cn/2009/9/24/24-18-18-3-252048841.jpg
http://img.autohome.com.cn/2009/9/24/24-18-43-27-674788696.jpg

Foton MP-X received only 2 stars
http://img.autohome.com.cn/2009/9/24/24-15-20-33-131589054.jpg
http://img.autohome.com.cn/2009/9/24/24-18-43-29-319285642.jpg

Chang Feng CS6 - 4 stars (good result in my oppinion)
http://img.autohome.com.cn/2009/9/24/24-15-23-19-917320115.jpg

Peugeot 307 - 5 stars
http://img.autohome.com.cn/2009/9/24/24-18-18-0-360028375.jpg

Chinese cars unfortunately again proved very unsafe for passangers.
Another dissapointment is only 4 stars received by Elantra.

Crash tests shall be carried out for trucks not just for sedans in China, especially mini and light trucks. When do you think Chinese government will push this? 3 years, 5 years or even 10 years?

My computer crashed, but finally is here the update of the C-NCAP list:

http://i497.photobucket.com/albums/rr332/rutgervandermaar/c-ncap_update_sep_2009.jpg

New in the list: BYD F0, Changfeng CS6, Foton MP-X Midi, Hyundai Sonata NFC, Mazda6 and Peugeot 307 facelift.

...

Build quality aside, the AVR engine and the Lotus tuned suspension really made the small RAV4 lookalike SUV felt lively. In fact, I love it.

My other comment is that China manufacturers should be more original in their design (which I think is what they are doing now) and to focus more on the interior quality.

The comparison test of RAV 4 and its counterpart from China was preformed some months ago by one of the car magazines in Europe (don't remember which one). They found 5 years old Toyota RAV to be far superior and better choice than its new China copy.

BS6 failed the NCAP tests miserably and was banned from German roads.

I had the "pleasure" of testing CEO SUV (X5 lookalike). I can't believe anyone in their sane mind would purchase the car for the price they are asking for it in the EU. The car feels as truck-like as 15 years old Mitsubishi Pajero. Going from it back to my Land Rover Freelander (very truck-like car by my standards) Freelander felt like I'm driving a plush limousine. :)

Since I owned a Bashan Quad for a few months (sold it before it could kill me :) ) I'm very skeptical of any products that are so under engineered.

Chinese maker will need to work very very hard to prove themselves in tough EU or US market.

Newest results.

Geely Panda - five stars
Excellent result for small Chinese car
http://img.autohome.com.cn/2009/12/29/29-10-5-41-116612750.jpg


Honda Spirior - five stars


Riich M1 - 4 stars
http://img.autohome.com.cn/2009/12/29/29-10-10-0-314293540.jpg

VW SAGITAR - 5 stars


Honda Odyssey - 5 stars
http://img.autohome.com.cn/2009/12/29/29-9-58-13-831726753.jpg


Nissan X-Trail - also 5 stars
http://img.autohome.com.cn/2009/12/29/29-21-0-40-714647223.jpg


link:
http://www.autohome.com.cn/news/200912/86612.html

Judging from the look of the pictures, Geely Panda has way more airbags than Chery Riich.

How come I thought Riich is supposed to be a sort of luxury lineup.

Update of the C-NCAP list:

http://i45.tinypic.com/2mhihyb.jpg

New in the list: Geely Panda, Riich M1, Volkswagen Sagitar (2009), Honda Spirior, Honda Odyssey and Nissan X-Trail.

Thanks daewoo-chevrolet :thumb:

Chinese manufacturer of cars are getting better.

I don't get what's the point of testing foreign cars anyway? We know they would all pass.It's the Chinese cars that need to be tested at full 40 mph offset, not 35 mph as C-NCAP is doing.Most chinese cars don't work effectively.

Safety is probably the biggest weakness for Chinese manufacturers together with build quality in being able to expand in markets like Europe. Really they need to make a huge effort to change perceptions.

Latest results: Europestar L3 [=Proton Persona] (3 stars), Suzuki Alto (3 stars), Chery Fulwin 2 (4 stars), Great Wall Coolbear (4 stars), Skoda Superb (5 stars), Toyota Highlander (5 stars), Volvo S40 (5 stars), Mitsubishi Lancer (5 stars) en de Buick Regal (5 stars).

Update of the C-NCAP list:

http://i497.photobucket.com/albums/rr332/rutgervandermaar/c-ncaplistupdate1.jpg

Good to see the 2010 Mitsubishi Lancer got 5 stars as compared to the 2007 Mitsubishi Lancer, which got only 3 stars.

The 3 star rating was for the Chinese 2007 Mitsubishi Lancer, which was still based on the 1995-2002 Lancer. The result for the 2010 Mitsubishi Lancer is however impressive, indeed.

Newest crash test results:
http://www.autohome.com.cn/news/201007/125828.html

* Dongfeng-Nissan Bluebird – 4 stars
* FAW-Besturn B50 – 4 stars
* Beijing Hyundai i30 – 4 stars
* Roewe 350 – 5 stars
* FAW-VW Golf – 5 stars
* Dongfeng-Citroen C5 – 5 stars
* Dongfeng-Kia Forte – 5 stars

Article from China Car Times:
C-NCAP, the Chinese body responsible for testing the safety of cars in China has yet again smashed up another round of cars in the name of improving safety in the Middle Kingdom. This round is the second batch of cars to meet their maker in the smasher this year

From its establishment several years ago till now, C-NCAP has tested over 104 different models of Chinese produced vehicles, and from this year will also add imported models to its testing tables. After taking pointers from various peoples and organizations within the automobile industry, C-NCAP are planning to improve their testing procedures again and will begin to test the crash worthiness of car rear ends and also baby seats. C-NCAP are also open to suggestions for 2012 testing procedures from both domestic and foreign professionals, and are planning to make Chinese crash testing regulations much stronger in the future.

In the latest round of testings the following cars were tested and awarded stars:

Dongfeng-Nissan Bluebird – 4 stars
FAW-Besturn B50 – 4 stars
Dongfeng-Kia Forte – 5 stars
Roewe 350 – 5 stars
Beijing Hyundai i30 – 4 stars
FAW-VW Golf – 5 stars
Dongfeng-Citroen C5 – 5 stars
The obvious winner here appears to be the recently launched Roewe 350, which was designed in house by SAIC and does not rely on any bought in technology such as the Besturn B50 which is based on the last generation of Mazda6. The Golf and the C5 will no doubt benefit from the safety recognition that they have been given and will continue to do well in the sales. Pictures of the crash tests have not yet been released, but will be available on CCT over the next few days.


Good. That will show those uneducated westerners and rednecks on Youtube. I really want China to show thw world what their manufacturing industries are capable of and prove the West wrong about safety and refinement.

Indeed a great result for the Roewe 350, but the uneducated westerners (automotive journalists) and rednecks will always find something to niggle about.

Because they won't pass????
Why don't they test chinese cars? Well I can show you what would have happened if they had tested a Golf MK2 platform car like flag/windcloud or FAW-Jetta. A few years ago the austrian motoring organisation tested a Golf2...

The test opens with "Attention: life threatening danger!" and explains you basically have no chance of surviving a (NCAP standard) crash.

The C-NCAP organisation carried out some more tests in early September. They used 6 Chinese cars and neither faired well.
http://www.autohome.com.cn/news/201009/139094.html

Results:
1) Haima 2 received 35.9 points what was enough for three stars

2) Dongfeng Shuai scored a total of 3 stars (34.4 points)

3) Xiali N5 was also awarded 3 stars (30.7 points)

4) Changan Yue Xiang scored 36.1 points or 3 stars (best result in this round of testings but still bad)

5) UFO A380 managed 31.7 points

6) Results of Lifan 620 were good enough for only 33.4 points

Update of the list:

http://i54.tinypic.com/9iwxsg.jpg

Latest C-NCAP results:
http://www.autohome.com.cn/news/201101/165800.html

Geely EC7 received 46.8 points (5 stars). Very good result for Geely.

VW Tiguan:
48.2 points, also 5 stars

Ford Fiesta:
45.5 points, 5 stars

Pugeot 408:
5 stars and 47.1 points

Dongfeng S30 got only 3 stars (30.4 points)

Huanghai CUV received 31.1 points what was enough for 3 stars.


C-NCAP also tested two imported cars, Subaru Forester and Hyundai santa Fe. Both got five stars for their safety performance.

Latest results:
http://www.autohome.com.cn/news/201104/186558.html

Kia Soul - 4 stars
Hyundai Accent - 5 stars
Great Wall C30 - 5 stars
Buick Excelle GT - 5 stars
VW Magotan CC - 5 stars

Best result was achieved by GAC Trumpchi (48.8 points)

http://www.c-ncap.org.cn/app/cncap/pzsj.jsp?pzid=2835

well done great wall ! :thumb::thumb:

well done indeed. looking forward to having these in the philippines :D

What's the point of testing foreign cars ??

New C-NCAP results:
http://www.autohome.com.cn/news/201107/215984.html

The best result was achived by FAW Toyota RAV4 which earned five stars.
Zhengzhou Nissan NV200 got 4 stars
Rely X5 also received 4 stars
Haima Premacy performed worst of all tested cars (***)
Dongfeng Nissan Sunny scored 42.8 points (four stars)
Southeast Mitsubishi Galant was one of four cars getting 4 stars for safety

What's the point of testing foreign cars ??

The point is that tested cars are produced in China! :cool:

Latest results:
http://www.autohome.com.cn/news/201109/239035.html

Kia K5, MG3 and Polo received maximum number of stars.
Everus S1 and Huatai B11 got four stars.

Hawtai B11 40,2 ★★★★★
Kia K5 50,7 ★★★★★☆
Volkswagen Polo 45,4 ★★★★★
MG 3 47,1 ★★★★★
Linian S1 40,4 ★★★★

Very impressive results by the MG 3 and Kia K5 (best score ever in C-NCAP!)

New standards for C-NCAP announced

The new China-New Car Assessment Program management rules have been unveiled, jfdaily.com reported today. The new provisions, which have been repeatedly revised, are expected to go into effect next July. The rules will usher in sweeping reforms for the C-NCAP and have been the focus of media attention for months.

According to Li Wei, assistant to the director of the China Automotive Technology and Research Center and head of the testing department, large revisions have been made to the rating standards, speed requirements and programs for the C-NCAP's crash test. For the first time, rear seat passengers will be accounted for in the test. Additionally, low speed crash tests will be introduced, while the inclusion of other safety systems, such as ESC and ESP, will be considered while scoring. Total scores will increase from 51 to 62, while the star system will also be modified.

Officials from the C-NCAP Management Center are confident that the new standard will help raise the overall safety of automobiles on the road today. With the five stars rating being harder to obtain than before, consumers and manufacturers are sure to increase awareness of automobile safety. According to the C-NCAP, the upcoming standards are vastly different than the current ones. "From now on, [manufacturers rated by] the C-NCAP should clearly point out which version was used and what time the tests were done," in order to prevent consumer confusion, Mr. Li Wei advised.

http://autonews.gasgoo.com/china-news/new-standards-for-c-ncap-announced-111012.shtml

Euro Ncap conducted latest crash tests. Two Chinese vehicles - Geely Emgrand EC7 and MG6 - were also included. Both did very well earning four star ratings:

http://www.euroncap.com/Content-Web-Article/91fea4d4-30b5-484d-9dc5-140e0181278c/chinese-manufacturers-investing-in-safety.aspx

The Geely Emgrand EC7 earned the most points for its chairs in the whiplash test of all the 14 tested cars (including the new Mercedes B-Class, C-Class Coupe, Jaguar XF, new VW Beetle, Chevrolet Malibu and Jeep Grand Cherokee :thumb:

Geely needs to work on this:

"There was considerable deformation in driver's footwell area, with tearing of the metal in places. The car was penalised for this collapse, resulting in the protection of the driver's feet and ankles being rated as poor."

A 5 star rating should be in reach after that.

The Geely Emgrand EC7 earned the most points for its chairs in the whiplash test of all the 14 tested cars (including the new Mercedes B-Class, C-Class Coupe, Jaguar XF, new VW Beetle, Chevrolet Malibu and Jeep Grand Cherokee :thumb:

Geely needs to work on this:

"There was considerable deformation in driver's footwell area, with tearing of the metal in places. The car was penalised for this collapse, resulting in the protection of the driver's feet and ankles being rated as poor."

A 5 star rating should be in reach after that.

I like my feet and ankles.

Me too!

The unofficial and official Euro NCAP crash tests with Chinese cars.

The official European crash test institution Euro NCAP has tested three Chinese cars, see number 17, 21 and 22.

Besides, some other institutes have tested Chinese cars, using the severe regulations of the Euro NCAP.

Here is a complete list until date.

1. September 2005: Jiangling Landwind X6. ZERO STARS.
Commissioned by a number of European consumer organisations, most important: ADAC, ANWB and ÖAMTC, probably for a German car manufacturer. The estimated rating was zero stars (1 point out of 16).

2. February 2006: Chery QQ (Sweet, QQ3). ONE STAR.
Commissioned by the car magazine Autoreview.ru, done by the FSUE NICIAMT passive safety laboratory. Car was numbered 706. The estimated rating was one star (4.9 point out of 16).

3. June 2007: Chery Amulet (A15, Qiyun, Banner Cloud). ZERO STARS.
Commissioned by the car magazine Autoreview.ru, for the Russian car manufacturer Autovaz, done by the Autovaz laboratory. Car was numbered 964. The estimated rating was zero stars (1.7 point out of 16).

4. June 2007: Brilliance BS 6 (Grandeur, Zunchi). ZERO to ONE STAR.
Commissioned by a number of European consumer organisations, most important: ADAC, ÖAMTC and AMWB, probably for a German car manufacturer. The estimated rating was zero to one star. (see also number 5)

5. September 2007: Brilliance BS 6 (Grandeur, Zunchi). THREE STARS.
Commissioned by the European Brilliance importer HSO. Done by the Spanish Idiada Institute. The estimated rating was three stars. (see also number 4)

6. December 2007: Geely Otaka (CK, Ziyoujian, Free Fleet). ZERO STARS.
Commissioned by the car magazine Autoreview.ru, for the Russian car manufacturer Autovaz, done by the Autovaz laboratory. Car was numbered 1004. The estimated rating was zero stars (1.7 point out of 16). (see also number 16)

7. December 2007: BYD F3. THREE STARS.
Commissioned by the Russian car importer Irito, done by the FSUE NICIAMT passive safety laboratory. Car was numbered 809. The estimated rating was three stars (10.2 point out of 16). (see also number 8)

8. (?) 2008: BYD F3. ONE STAR.
Commissioned by the car magazine Autoreview.ru, for the Russian car manufacturer Autovaz, done by the Autovaz laboratory. Car was numbered 1075. The estimated rating was one stars (6.0 point out of 16). (see also number 7)

9. April 2008: Lifan Breez (520). THREE AND A HALF STARS.
Commissioned by the Russian car distributor Eastern Ltd. and the Derways Assembly Plant, done by the FSUE NICIAMT passive safety laboratory. Car was numbered 814. The estimated rating was three and a half stars (21,5 point).

10. August 2008: Chery Tiggo 3 (T11). ONE STAR.
Commissioned by the Russian car magazine Vnedorozhnik, done by the FSUE NICIAMT passive safety laboratory. Car was numbered 832. The estimated rating was one star (2.8 point out of 16).
(see also number 20)

11. March 2009: Brilliance BS4 (Junjie sedan). THREE STARS.
Commissioned by a number of European consumer organisations, most important: ADAC, ÖAMTC and AMWB, probably for a German car manufacturer. The estimated rating was three stars (6,85 point out of 16). ADAC claimed that the car should have zero stars as the testprotocol had changed a couple of weeks before the test. ADAC stated that each car without ESC should get zero points. Later it came out that this was a lie. The other consumerorganisations like ANWB, TCS and OAMTC disagreed and staid to the old testprotocol, giving the car three stars.

12. September 2009: Great Wall V240 Steed (Wingle, Fengjun) Dual cab pickup. TWO STARS.
Commissioned by the ANCAP (according Australian standards, compatible with EuroNCAP) at the RTA Crashlab at Huntingwood, NSW. Car was numbered B09034. The rating was two stars (2.36 out of 16, overall score 16.49).

13. September 2009: Great Wall SA220 Sailor (Sailing) Dual cab pickup. TWO STARS.
Commissioned by the ANCAP (according Australian standards, compatible with EuroNCAP) at the RTA Crashlab at Huntingwood, NSW. Car was numbered B09035. The rating was two stars (2.32 out of 16, overall score 16.49).

14. (?) 2010: Geely MK (Kingkong, LG-1). TWO STARS.
Commissioned by the car magazine Autoreview.ru, for the Russian car manufacturer Autovaz, done by the Autovaz laboratory. Car was numbered 1171. The estimated rating was two stars (6.5 point out of 16). (see also number 19)

15. March 2010: Great Wall X240 Hover (Haval, Hafu, H3). FOUR STARS.
Commissioned by the ANCAP (according Australian standards, compatible with EuroNCAP) at the RTA Crashlab at Huntingwood, NSW. Car was numbered B10018. The rating was four stars (9.48 out of 16, overall score 25.48).

16. October 2010: Geely CK-1 (Free Cruiser, Ziyoujian). ZERO STARS. (see also number 6)
Commissioned by the LatinNCAP (according SouthAmerican standards, compatible with EuroNCAP) at the ADAC crashlab in Germany. Car was numbered FO2310GCK1. The rating was 1,06 for the adult occupant (zero stars) and 20,37 for the child occupant (two stars). (see also number 6)

17. November 2010: Jiangling Landwind CV9. TWO STARS.
The first Chinese car officially tested by the EuroNCAP (Brussels, Belgium), test at TNO/TTAI, Tiel, The Netherlands. Cars were numbered F103605/F103606. The rating was: adult occupant 12 points (front impact 9, side impact 3.4, whiplash test 0), child occupant 22 points, pedestrian 11 points, safety assist 2 points (final result two stars, 12 points).

18. April 2011: Chery A1 (J1). THREE STARS.
Commissioned by the ANCAP (according Australian standards, compatible with EuroNCAP) at the RTA Crashlab at Huntingwood, NSW. Car was numbered B11014. The rating was three stars (5.23 out of 16, overall score 16.97 out of 37).

19. May 2011: Geely MK (LG-1/LG-3) sedan and hatch (King Kong/Golden Eagle, Jingang/Jinying), now sold as Englon (Yinglun). THREE STARS.
Commissioned by the ANCAP (according Australian standards, compatible with EuroNCAP) at the RTA Crashlab at Huntingwood, NSW. Car was numbered B11016. The rating was three stars (8.46 out of 16, overall score 20.56 out of 37). (see also number 14)

20. September 2011: Chery Tiggo T11 (J11). TWO STARS.
Commissioned by the ANCAP (according Australian standards, compatible with EuroNCAP) at the RTA Crashlab at Huntingwood, NSW. Car was numbered B11029. The rating was two stars (2 out of 16, overall score 6 out of 37) (interim results published). (see also number 10)

21. November 2011: Geely Emgrand EC7. FOUR STARS.
Commissioned by the Euro/NCAP (Brussels, Belgium), tested at Applus-Idiada, Sta Olvia, Spain. Cars were numbered 114101LE, 114103DE, 114104JE. The rating was: adult occupant 27 points, child occupant 39 points, pedestrian 15 points, safety assist 6 points (final result four stars).

22. November 2011: MG 6. FOUR STARS.
Commissioned by the Euro/NCAP (Brussels, Belgium), tested at MIRRC Thatcham Crash Laboratory, Thatcham UK. Cars were numbered K9403/ K9452/ K9603. The rating was: adult occupant 26 points, child occupant 35 points, pedestrian 15 points, safety assist 5 points (final result four stars).



Be careful: at least two tests are described in the press as Euro NCAP, as they are in reality Euro R94 tests. The main difference is the speed of the collision (56 km/h in stead of 64 km/h).
These are the Irito/Niciamt test of the Brilliance M2 (BS4, Splendor, Junjie) of February 2008 and the CATARC (Chinese test institute) test of the Great Wall Hover of July 2007.

C-NCAP conducted 4th and final crash test in 2011. Results are as follows.

Hyundai Sonata got 50.7 points (★★★★★☆)
Emgrand EC8 - 49.6 points (★★★★★)
Toyota Reiz - 49 points (★★★★★)
Peugeot 508 - 48.9 points (★★★★★)
KIA Sportage R - 48.6 points (★★★★★)
Honda Civic - 48.3 points (★★★★★)
Buick GL8 - 47.7 points (★★★★★)
BYD S6 - 46 points (★★★★★)
JAC Heyue - 46 points (★★★★★)

All above cars got maximum number of points. Haima, ChangAn and V2 did't perform so well.

New Haima Family scored 41.7 points (★★★★). Even worse performed ChangAn CX20 (35.8 points, three stars) and FAW V2 which got only 31.2 points for its safety performance.

More info about test at Autohome:
http://www.autohome.com.cn/news/201112/281748.html

Very impressive performance of the Emgrand EC8!

According too the China Daily newspaper there were 70,000 people killed and 300,000 injured in traffic accidents alone in China 2011. The Car is new to the people of China and on personal note ; I think is the worst thing to come to China roads in the last decade. The drivers are not educated and lack knowledge in driving skills. Snow and Ice in Northern China is scarped off the roads by human force. They have no sanders or snow plows to maintain the highways. The drivers are there own worst enemy. They lack skill and good driving ethics; They tend to speed any chance they get . Im first mentality prevails in China . The drivers license is just a card and is not worth the paper it is printed on .

I agree with your comments, idorun, but you must keep in mind that a couple of years ago the deathtoll was 100.000 victimes a year, so there is progress.

First batch of crash tests was conducted by CNCAP in 2012. Almost all tested cars performed excellent except BYD G6 which was the only car not to receive maximum number of stars.

http://www.autohome.com.cn/news/201204/322360.html


Results:
Toyota Camry: 50.3 points, ★ ★ ★ ★ ★ ☆
Great Wall H6: 45.8 points, ★ ★ ★ ★ ★
Volkswagen Passat: 47.4 points, ★ ★ ★ ★ ★
Chevrolet Aveo: 47.7 points, ★★★★★
Roewe W5: 45.3 points, ★★★★★
Hyundai ix35: 47.6 points, ★★★★★
Brilliance H530: 45.2 points, ★★★★★
Luxgen 7: 46.5 points, ★★★★★
Kia K2: 45.1 points, ★★★★★
BYD G6: 43.9 points, ★★★★

I guess its a natural evolution - compare Europe's roads and cars now with the way they were 20 years ago. Fantastic to see things improving in terms of safety in China.