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CCF mod 10-16-2012 12:57 PM

Geely Zhidou (D1, D2, D3)
 
Zotye Auto, known as the maker of 5008 EV and the cheapest Chinese car, Jiangnan Alto (TT), is developing a micro pure-electric car looking like Mitsubishi’s i-MiEV, according to the Chinese medium "Internet Info Agency." About half a meter shorter than the i-MiEV, a five-door hatchback, the Zotye model has only three doors and one row of two seats.

Sitting on a 2080mm wheelbase, the Zotye micro EV is said to be 2900mm long, 1545mm wide, and 1590mm high, and thus noticeably larger than the electric Smart Fortwo. For functionality, it gets a 10 kilowatt-hour battery pack (compared with the 14 kilowatt-hour on the second-gen Smart EV) and can run at a top speed of 80km/h (the minimum level set by the Ministry of Industry and Information Technology for pure-electric passenger cars). The driving range is about 100km (the Ministry requires a minimum of 80km).

http://s2.mojalbum.com/4219952_17601...3/20162843.jpg


Earlier this year, another Zotye micro EV, the electric Jiangnan Alto (TT) has been found on sale in certain parts of China, available in both low-speed and high-way capable versions. Zotye, however, has not yet officially announced the release.

http://s2.mojalbum.com/4219952_17601...3/20162844.jpg

source:
http://chinaautoweb.com/2012/10/zoty...eater-exposed/

green car driver 10-28-2012 10:50 AM

Re: Zotye’s Electric Two-Seater
 
The electric Jiangnan Alto looks too much like a car from the 80's. The first model looks more exciting, though its design still needs some work. But it will have to very cheap to be successful. The Smart Electric Drive is now in its third generation, and it's a very sophisticated product, yet if that Zotye is half the price, there will be a market for it.

CCF mod 02-02-2014 01:59 AM

The first spy shots of new Zotye electric mini car:
http://auto.163.com/14/0129/07/9JO6428B000850TN.html

http://s2.mojalbum.com/4219952_17790...8/21455421.jpg

http://s2.mojalbum.com/4219952_17790...8/21455422.jpg

dmitra 02-02-2014 06:04 AM

Re: Zotye electric car
 
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It is actually the Zhidou ZD-1/ZD-2 from Xindayang (New Ocean Group) that Erik (Hello!) mentioned in this post in the Mini EV thread.

See www.evcar.com or en.evcar.com

Also introduced in Italy as GreenGo iCaro.

In the attached pics of the Zotye JNJ7000EVZ below, we can see the green ZD logo along with the Zotye badge (in the rear-end pic):

Attachment 4033Attachment 4041

Zhidou:

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-j...045050_big.jpg
https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-p...a2ce58b406.jpg
https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-4...c22b2ef63d.jpg
With GreenGo logo:
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-E...4f73858c17.jpg

dmitra 02-02-2014 07:13 AM

GreenGo iCaro (italy)
 
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https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-O...go-Icaro-1.jpg
Other Zhidou pics:
Attachment 4073Attachment 4081Attachment 4065Attachment 4049Attachment 4057

CCF mod 04-21-2014 08:21 AM

Zotye E20 @ 2014 Beijing Auto Show:
http://car.autohome.com.cn/chezhan/exps63/3447.html

http://s2.mojalbum.com/4219952_17831...1/21645825.jpg

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dmitra 05-14-2014 02:05 PM

Zotye Zhidou E20
 
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http://s0.mojalbum.com/17393830_1783...4/21703532.jpg
http://price.pcauto.com.cn/cars/sg10981/

dragin 05-15-2014 12:22 PM

Re: Zotye E20
 
This mini EV model looks like it would fit in with the cooperative letter of intent ("LOI") that Zotye signed with Kandi, "to establish a strategic alliance and cooperate with each others' competitive strengths to advance the EV development in Hangzhou", as reported by Yahoo News in 2012. But now that relationship seems to have been pre-empted by the Kandi-Geely cooperation.




dmitra 05-15-2014 03:44 PM

Re: Zotye E20
 
@Dragin, of interest, here is an article relevant to the Kandi-Geely JV, in particular the Q&A section in the latter part of the article:
http://ibankcoin.com/zenhunter/2013/...hasis-on-kndi/

CCF mod 09-18-2014 02:29 PM

Several EV's with different badges and names caught at the parking lot in Slovenian capital of Ljubljana, yesterday. The price is yet unkonwn.

http://s2.mojalbum.com/4219952_17867...5/21960720.jpg

http://s2.mojalbum.com/4219952_17867...5/21960721.jpg

The car looks really cheap. I doubt the importer will find many customers here.

dmitra 09-18-2014 04:09 PM

Re: Zotye E20
 
I see an AEV badge in one of the pictures. On their website, they are calling it the AEV 2. They are importing the Yogomo MA4 (AEV 1) as well.

Also see:
http://www.avto.net/_AVTO/ad.asp?ID=7829191&show=2
https://www.facebook.com/ttdsystem

dmitra 05-01-2015 04:27 PM

Geely Zhidou D2 (SMA7001BEV13)
 
Facelift of the Zhidou D1, which is a version of the Zhidou 301/Zotye Zhidou E20 made by the Geely-Xindayang JV at Lanzhou, Gansu.

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-Q.../r11642490.jpg
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-5.../r11642494.jpg

Source: cn-truck.com

Also see: http://club.autohome.com.cn/bbs/thre...9369001-1.html

dmitra 05-04-2015 04:22 PM

Geely Zhidou D2
 
Exhibited at the "EVS28" electric vehicle symposium in Goyang, S. Korea:

http://www.autohome.com.cn/news/201505/871332.html

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-H...9755343112.jpghttps://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-w...2772264112.jpg
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-V...7715343112.jpg

dmitra 05-04-2015 04:23 PM

Geely Zhidou D2
 
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-l...1605343112.jpg
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-p...3295343110.jpg
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-H...8725343112.jpg
http://car.autohome.com.cn/pic/series/3827.html

CCF mod 09-26-2015 10:23 AM

4 Attachment(s)
More photos of D2
http://pic.315che.com/serial/51583.htm
http://auto.315che.com/ztzhidoud2/

http://s2.mojalbum.com/4219952_17960...9/22705094.jpg

http://s2.mojalbum.com/4219952_17960...9/22705087.jpg

http://s2.mojalbum.com/4219952_17960...9/22705090.jpg

http://s2.mojalbum.com/4219952_17960...9/22705092.jpg


more at:
https://car.autohome.com.cn/pic/seri...areaid=2023559
https://car.autohome.com.cn/pic/seri...areaid=2042220

https://mojalbum.com/martinkrpan/album-90/foto/23922687
https://mojalbum.com/martinkrpan/album-90/foto/23922686
https://mojalbum.com/martinkrpan/album-90/foto/23922685
https://mojalbum.com/martinkrpan/album-90/foto/23922688

dragin 09-28-2015 05:27 PM

Re: Zotye Zhidou E20
 
Thank you for that info Dmitra.
What I find interesting and ironic is that although these three auto makers, Kandi, Geely and Zotye, produce their own EV models independently, they have turned to Xindayang for this Smart-like, and Smart-sized, model.




dmitra 09-29-2015 04:50 AM

Re: Zotye Zhidou E20
 
@Dragin:
It could also be the other way round. Perhaps the LSEV makers are desirous of marketing their NEV-rules compliant vehicles and gaining that all-important NDRC type approval quicker by partnering with a major (read: already licensed) manufacturer. What cars these LSEV makers offer their principals are usually a segment below the NEVs offered by the "major" makers themselves or a product not previously in their lineup (development/R&D costs are saved, in the latter case).

That being said, in the case of Geely and its partners (Kandi, Xindayang), there are actually joint production ventures. For the others, i.e., Xindayang/Zotye, Mengde/Youngman, Guangma/Youngman, Rainchst/JMC, it is more of an expedient marketing arrangement, although I would not rule out some KD assembly, if at all that takes place.

Other marketing-type arrangements include Mengde/Dongfeng and Mengde/Lifan, but those are for LSEVs only.

dragin 09-30-2015 11:16 AM

Re: Zotye Zhidou E20
 
Would like to have just half of your much coveted sources, Dmitra. :-)
Here is a link with words that support what you have said.

http://www.prnewswire.com/news-relea...300151187.html

It seems that the NDRC are still dragging their feet with regards to setting LSEV manufacturing and licensing policy.
As for Mengde, it seems they are among the more active in partnering.




dmitra 09-30-2015 05:45 PM

Re: Zotye Zhidou E20
 
Thanks, Dragin, for that link.

As for NDRC dragging their feet:

With the tightening of NEV criteria year by year ("double 80" rule will become "double 100" in 2016; the road map from there on is already published), it is very much possible that NDRC never develops any policy towards LSEV standardization. What they will perhaps do (my educated opinion) is try to nudge/push the LSEV makers into developing NEVs which they can then properly certify.

The LSEV makers need not even develop brand-new vehicles for this purpose. With necessary investment into R&D, they can re-engineer existing models into NEVs. As only those companies which are higher up on the financial and technological ladder would be more likely to go this route, this could well be a method by which the authorities set the "men" apart from the "boys", thus paving the way for eventual certification and subsidies.

The first baby steps have already been taken. The above-mentioned makers (Mengde, Rainchst, Xindayang, Guangma) have demonstrated that they are capable of adapting their LSEVs to NEV standards (their cars winning NDRC approval, albeit via third party). For the present they have devised a short-term, stopgap solution of partnering with established manufacturers. Long-term, who knows, they might want to market NEVs independently, depending upon how the market for EVs matures.

Sorry if that was long!

dragin 10-05-2015 10:47 AM

Re: Zotye Zhidou E20
 
Current EV development, and related government incentives seem to be gaining momentum, and so in line with your thinking, I wouldn't be surprised to see some of the more creative LSEV makers graduate to the big league of NEV. Of course it's all going to depend on that hoped for early recovery from the latest downturn of the economy.

As for the double 80 rule, you enlightened me as to the name of the gov't policy set around 2013, "双八十". For our friends out there who were in the dark, like I was, an EV must be able to run as fast as 80 km/hour, and as far as 80 km on one charge to be allowed on public roads.

Thanks as well for the heads up about those four LSEV makers who are distinguishing themselves in the field.




dmitra 10-05-2015 04:51 PM

Re: Zotye Zhidou E20
 
@Dragin: I agree with your first paragraph.

If I were to pick some hopeful candidates, the most likely manufacturers to transition to the NEV sector over the next few years might be Yogomo, Levdeo, Lichi and Shifeng.

Yogomo does have some type-approved vehicles, mainly cargo versions of their LSEVs, as well as EV and gas versions of their M6320/X6320 (Jieshun) van.

Levdeo of Byvin group is coming up with more powerful, lithium-battery powered versions of their D70 and V60. The V60i is expected to have a decent range. Their designs are good, too. So they are at least heading in the right direction.

Lichi's flagship car, the E9, has a mature design, good enough to be a mainstream car. If any LSEV deserves to become an NEV, in my opinion it is this one. Also remember, Loncin is going to make significant investments into this company and it is their stated goal to make Lichi a major EV player.

Shifeng has shown it is capable of making/acquiring respectable designs - viz. the D101 and D201. Also it is the largest LSEV maker around.

Apart from these, there is of course Kandi (the K10 is a licensed NEV, now upgraded to meet new requirements for 2016). Durabl is another maker which has a car reportedly capable of meeting 2016 standards waiting in the wings.

______________________________

This discussion is becoming off-topic, deviating from the subject Zhidou E20. I will post further comments/replies in the Mini EV thread under "General Discussion".

dragin 12-18-2015 02:42 PM

Re: Zotye Zhidou E20
 
Hi Dmitra,
As for the Kandi K10, isn't it a Geely Meiri (aka SC6, MK)? I wonder if Kandi has any self developed models that have been licensed? Perhaps the K17 or K30?




dmitra 12-18-2015 03:37 PM

No, dragin, Kandi K10 is Kandi's own model, the original small 3-door car. The K10 is the (technically upgraded) NEV-compliant version of their KD5010/5011/KD28E LSEV.

The K11, K17 and K30 are electric versions of Geely's existing cars. Another upcoming Kandi model is the K12.

Here are the models: http://www.kandivehicle.com/ProductL...=0&classid2=68

More on Kandi: https://www.chinacarforums.com/forum/...ead.php?t=7563
K17: https://www.chinacarforums.com/forum/...&highlight=K17
K30: https://www.chinacarforums.com/forum/...&highlight=K30

dragin 12-19-2015 12:33 AM

Re: Zotye Zhidou E20
 
Thanks Dmitra. I had mistaken the K17 for a K10.
You have confirmed what I guessed about Kandi not having developed any model outside the small three door type.




CCF mod 01-01-2016 03:13 AM

Refreshed D2
http://www.autohome.com.cn/news/2016...areaid=2023114

http://s2.mojalbum.com/4219952_17987...7/22878157.jpg

http://s2.mojalbum.com/4219952_17987...7/22878158.jpg

dmitra 08-23-2016 05:26 AM

Geely-Zhidou D2S
 
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Facelifted D2, known as D2S. It appears no technical changes have been made.
http://www.d1ev.com/45166.html

Of note, the original E20 model that was distributed by Zotye is now known as "H1".

http://s0.mojalbum.com/17393830_1805...1/23282645.jpg
http://s0.mojalbum.com/17393830_1805...1/23282644.jpg
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Attachment 33361

More on the D2S:
http://www.autohome.com.cn/news/201608/892292.html

CCF mod 08-25-2016 02:16 PM

D2S
http://car.autohome.com.cn/pic/serie...areaid=2042220

http://s2.mojalbum.com/4219952_18055...6/23285985.jpg

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CCF mod 08-25-2016 02:17 PM

http://s2.mojalbum.com/4219952_18055...6/23285984.jpg

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http://s2.mojalbum.com/4219952_18055...6/23285986.jpg

http://s2.mojalbum.com/4219952_18055...6/23285990.jpg


D2:
http://car.autohome.com.cn/pic/serie...areaid=2042220

2017 model:
http://car.autohome.com.cn/pic/serie...areaid=2042220

2018:
http://photo.bitauto.com/Photo/model..._style_130146/
http://photo.bitauto.com/serial/4564/

Lawrence 10-17-2016 01:01 PM

Re: Zotye Zhidou E20
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by dmitra (Post 106666)
@Dragin: I agree with your first paragraph.

If I were to pick some hopeful candidates, the most likely manufacturers to transition to the NEV sector over the next few years might be Yogomo, Levdeo, Lichi and Shifeng.

Further to the discussion about the legalization and certification of Low Speed Electric Vehicle is this article of today:

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articl...s-legal-status

Unfortunately it doesn't go too far beyond what we know already, but it does agree with your suggestion that Shifeng will be among the lucky ones.

dmitra 05-11-2017 01:52 PM

Geely Zhidou D3
 
Substantially updated model. Likely to be made at the Geely Jinan plant.

https://s0.mojalbum.com/17393830_181...7/23685980.jpg
https://s0.mojalbum.com/17393830_181...7/23685979.jpg

Dimensions: Long: 2975 wide: 1585 high: 1590 mm
Wheelbase: 1865 mm
Motor: 30 kW
Speed: 100 km/h

Source: MIIT
___________________________

Since Zhidou are no longer connected with Zotye, I intend to move this thread to the Geely forum someday.

ausrutherford 05-13-2017 07:39 AM

Re: Zotye Zhidou E20 & Geely Zhidou
 
SO ZD got bought by Geely?

dmitra 05-13-2017 11:18 AM

Re: Zotye Zhidou E20 & Geely Zhidou
 
No, Zhidou has not been bought outright by Geely, but after Zotye got busy with its own electric vehicles (Zema with Dearcar, E200, and the Yun series) it did not cooperate further with Zhidou in advancing the E20, and Zhidou and Geely got closer (movie/soap opera script, no?). Point to note is that Geely and Zhidou had already begun their JV operation while the latter was supplying the E20 to Zotye.

Now the Zhidou-Geely cooperation runs very deep, where Zhidou is using or repurposing Geely plants (in Lanzhou, Ningbo and possibly Jinan) to manufacture its microcars.

For the background of the JV read:
http://www.geelyauto.com.hk/core/fil...0150108288.pdf

http://www.geelyauto.com.hk/core/fil...en/2015-02.pdf (pages 011 and 012)

but also read this for a different perspective:
http://wap.chinadaily.com.cn/2016-06...t_25868204.htm

CCF mod 10-26-2017 01:50 PM

Zhidou D3
 
https://s2.mojalbum.com/4219952_1814...0/23913539.jpg

https://s2.mojalbum.com/4219952_1814...0/23913536.jpg

https://s2.mojalbum.com/4219952_1814...0/23913533.jpg

https://s2.mojalbum.com/4219952_1814...0/23913538.jpg

CCF mod 10-26-2017 01:51 PM

Zhidou D3
 
https://s2.mojalbum.com/4219952_1814...0/23913532.jpg

https://s2.mojalbum.com/4219952_1814...0/23913534.jpg

https://s2.mojalbum.com/4219952_1814...0/23913535.jpg

https://s2.mojalbum.com/4219952_1814...0/23913537.jpg

https://car.autohome.com.cn/pic/seri...areaid=2042212
https://car.autohome.com.cn/pic/seri...areaid=2042220

More at:
http://price.pcauto.com.cn/cars/m79879-o1/
http://price.pcauto.com.cn/cars/sg22317/

dmitra 10-26-2017 03:43 PM

Re: Zotye Zhidou & Geely Zhidou (D1, D2, D3)
 
I realize the D3 is a new car altogether. Body panels, windows, interiors -- everything is different from the preceding cars.

P.S.: Since there is no Zotye involvement anymore, I am still wondering if we should move this thread to the Geely forum.

CCF mod 10-26-2017 04:41 PM

Re: Geely Zhidou (D1, D2, D3)
 
Done!

jumpjack 02-06-2018 01:08 PM

Re: Geely Zhidou (D1, D2, D3)
 
I hardly found what the history of this vehicle is from Zotye to Geely.
Wouldn't it be better to keep the original Zhidou thread in Zhidou section, closing it and (or leaving it open for owners of old models) pointing it to a new one titled "Geely D2 car" in this section? Else, this thread which narrates history of this vehicle will be found only by people already knowing the history!

dmitra 01-24-2019 10:12 AM

Zhidou Nanjing project
 
Zhidou Electric Vehicle Co., Ltd. (the parent of Lanzhou Zhidou Electric Vehicle Co., Ltd.) announced a new project in Nanjing. A manufacturing base for new energy vehicles will be set up in Nanjing Pukou Economic Development Zone (Pukou dt.) in two phases and will have a projected capacity of 200,000 vehicles per annum. The total planned investment is around 12 bn RMB (1.8 bn USD).

http://news.cnev.cn/Info_119946.html

For the current shareholding pattern of Zhidou Electric Vehicle Co., Ltd., see this post.

Lawrence 01-24-2019 01:35 PM

Re: Geely Zhidou (D1, D2, D3)
 
So active production bases for Zhidou will be Yongdeng County, Lanzhou, in Gansu; Yinan County, Linyi in Shandong (circa 30K/year); and soon to be brownfield (or greenfield?) plant in Pukou of Nanjing. Is this correct?

dmitra 01-24-2019 02:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lawrence (Post 209479)
Is this correct?

Yes, that's correct, plus Southern Binhai New Area of Ninghai County in Ningbo, Zhejiang, that opened in early 2018 (article).

Zhidou's cars have also been made at Geely's Jinan (Shandong) facility.

Looking at the declared amount of investment, the Nanjing factory appears to be a greenfield project.


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