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Old 08-09-2020, 06:25 PM   #251
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Thanks erik and thanks Gag for the correction.
Added new pics, comments always welcome here.

Edit:

is now off the list, since it appears to be a de-badged Mitsubishi Fuso Fighter from around ~1978-1979

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Old 08-27-2020, 06:28 AM   #252
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Hello Kegare, thanks for all the nice surprises and pictures. Especially the designs are great!
Some comments: my friend Robert writes me that the "Pukkoksong Brand Trucks and Unknown Pickup"(ibb.co/Qvr5hv5, ibb.co/C5p06BT; a pity the pictures are not numbered), are named Kumgangsan and not Pukkoksong.
"The ╦lectric car of unknown origin" (ibb.co/SBN0xsS and ibb.co/S5P051x) seems to me Baoya Tongnian BY07, before named Baoya Yate and based on the South Korean E-Zone EV ,made by CT&T.
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Old 08-27-2020, 06:40 AM   #253
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About the Chollima 011: on one of the posters the bus is named Chollima 001. Maybe 011 was a mistake? See https://ibb.co/NLDKShf
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Old 08-27-2020, 06:51 AM   #254
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Robert writes:
"aber NEIN --- nach LOGOTYP & BUCHSTABEN das ist Kumgangsan"
'but no, when you look at the logo and the characters, then you see that it is Kumgangsan'
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Old 08-27-2020, 08:57 AM   #255
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Thanks erik, I didn't see such a close up of this badge so you can see where confusion came from.




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About the Chollima 011: on one of the posters the bus is named Chollima 001. Maybe 011 was a mistake? See https://ibb.co/NLDKShf
Could be. And look at the Chollima-091 in that picture, I've never seen it with that front badge.
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Old 08-27-2020, 10:22 AM   #256
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Something else about the poster: the Chollima 74 is according my opinion a Mangyongdae 1979. See the attached photo!
That makes the poster less reliable, so I am uncertain about the Chollima 001 or 011.
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Old 08-29-2020, 03:10 AM   #257
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Thanks to the identfication done by DMitra and Kegare, I could add some new items to the Pyonghwa list at #43 (page 5).
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Old 08-29-2020, 10:28 AM   #258
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I have a noob question. I refer to these two pictures: https://ibb.co/wBH6n9r & https://ibb.co/C5p06BT.

From the discussion in posts #254 & #255, I see that the "Daewoo-like" logo is associated with the truck called "Kumgangsan". That logo is also on the dark green, canopied pickup truck (Jinbei Dalishen rebadge). So one may assume they are the products of the same company.

I now quote a post made quite some time back by Erik (#36):

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Joint ventures announced in the DPRK:
1. Tokchon Auto Joint Venture Co. Ltd. (2015)
in the Sungri factory in Tokchon, the name of the make is Sungri. FAW trucks from 3 to 30 ton.
2. Kumphyong Joint Venture Co. Ltd. (2015)
Address in Pyongyang.
Kunmae trucks (Jinbei), a 2 1/2 to and a 20 ton truck. Jinbei pickup, Jinbei small truck.
3. Hyesong Commercial Company (2013)
Address in Pyongyang.
Pukkuksong small trucks and vans
4. Pyongun Jungsong Joint Venture Co. (2009)
Address in Pyongyang.
Kumgangsan 19-50 sts buses, Chonmalli 0,5- 15 ton trucks
5. Samhung Automobile Joint Venture Co. (2013)
Address in Pyongyang.
Chonji pickups (Foton Sup and Foton Tunland), also small trucks
On one hand, I find "Kumgangsan" is a name associated with the Pyongun Jungsong company (평운중성합영회사). On the other hand, I see Jinbei pickup and Jinbei small truck mentioned under the Kumphyong company (금평자동차). So, which of these two companies is responsible for the vehicles in those two pictures?
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Old 08-29-2020, 01:50 PM   #259
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I'm 99% sure that the Chochongaeguk-ho is a Nissan Diesel Space Arrow.
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Old 08-30-2020, 07:13 AM   #260
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Questions for Kegare:
1. the small fc truck which we always called Sonyon is now identified as Sungri 58NA. Can you tell us where the attached photo was found (from a book?) and do you know the date of introduction of the vehicle?
2. You have this wonderful paper with technical details of the Sungri 58, the Taepaeksan 80 etc. Do you know the date of this information? Was it from a technical handbook?
3. Where did you find the indication that the first Taepaeksan (which I called T. 70) has the number T. 50, and the second the number T. 80? When that one is from the above mentioned paper, how do you know that is the right one?
Thanks again for the wonderful info!
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