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Old 01-17-2009, 12:54 PM   #1
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Default Why is the response level so low on CCF?

I was wondering why the overall level of responses is so low on this forum? The statistics say that ten people are reading this section of the forum right now, but there were just two topics were opened yesterday. Just like the day before yesterday... Most comments and posts are still mady by Martin Krpan and a bunch of other supporters of this forum. Discussions are very slow and most topics consist of fotos publishes my Martin. And talking of his work here - you do a great job, Martin! Without your effort, this forum would be less intresting.

Just wanted to ask openly, why the response level is so low. My intention was not to offense anyone and i picked my words advisedly. So, guys, what are your ideas on this?!
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Old 01-17-2009, 01:24 PM   #2
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Thanks stilo.

Unfortunately the truth is there is not much happening at forum lately. There are not not many active members right now. If you scroll down and check current active members you will find out that most of them are bots.

It seems people from English speaking countries are not really in Chinese car industry. Chinese cars are not present in Europe and USA at the moment (at least in large scale that is). Maybe in few years when Chinese companies expand to foreign markets the situation will change to better.

Mamy members are also turned away because they don't get answers to the questions they are looking for. And why don't they geat answers? Because specifications of China-made cars are still published only on Chinese Internet sites without English translation. And also CCF can't attract many owners of Chinese cars to help newbies.

Without new members who would publish interesting news we can't expect to get more new members. Period.

When I signed in there were many more people here. We had some good contributors and interesting debates. But gradually most of them just vanished without explanation. Only a handful left (I will not mention their names, you will easily find them). I'm scared for the future of this forum...
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Old 01-17-2009, 02:31 PM   #3
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You joined the CCF one year earlier than me, Martin. Back in 2008, the Forum was nearly dead in my eyes, whereas the situation within the last months got a bit better, but maybe that is just my impression.

I understand many of your concerns and the situation, as you describe it, seems to be a vicious circle. The most active users are either from central Europe - living within a distance of maybe 1500km - or from the states. We havenīt seen many cars on the road yet, correct, but isnīt that part of the attraction we have towards chinese cars?! Not looking at them makes them more intresting, at least to me. I see tons of VWs, BMWs, MBs on the streets every day and i am so bored that I donīt participate in any forum that deals with german cars.

I am also a bit scared about this forums future, but on the other hand, I have no real idea, how to change the current situation. Do you have any?
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Old 01-17-2009, 03:25 PM   #4
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We can wait and see what the future will bring...

Hopefuly contribution from active members will attract new people looking to find something about Chinese car industry and their products. When Chinese cars will be available in more countries people will get more familiar with them and start searching for information. And here I see the future for this forum. Almost all Chinese companies and vehicles are presented here just waiting for other people to discover them. And don't foget Chinese are developing many new and interesting products, including electric vehicles which will affect global auto industry.

Unfortunately according to some information people in China can't access CCF. This is the reason we are deprived of first-hand information from PRC residents.

Yes I agree the situation has improved lately. New users signed up and started writing. This is the way to go.
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Old 01-17-2009, 05:06 PM   #5
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This is a "just hang in there" type of forum. Painfully slow to process information at times, and, often with no new information. Martin does a fantastic job of providing information, but, as has been stated, if new information is being stuffed down, how can anyone add it in?

My biggest interest in coming here is to closely follow new Chinese-made all-electric cars, like BYD's new all-electric car called the e6. And what is really cool is that BYD is actively preparing them for export to the U.S. for sale there.
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Old 01-18-2009, 01:50 AM   #6
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Martin, you are right about people in China not being able to access CCF.....at least part of the time. I've been on this forum since 2006 - but there have been times that I have not been able to access this site. Last year (2008) I would say that there was a 6 month period or so that I could not get to this site......and then magically one day I tried, and voila - I'm here again! It DOES seem like the activity on this forum has diminished............let's hope that it will pick back up soon.
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Old 01-18-2009, 11:27 AM   #7
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I asked the very same question a while back. Pretty much got the same answers too. This forum gets a TON of views. We should have this section filled with new threads every day, but obviously that isn't happening. I've also heard that it could be people interested in chinese cars that can't read/write English. However, I think there are some decent translation devices out there, so not sure if that is the case.
Still, I'll be here. Just not every day.
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Old 10-13-2009, 03:38 AM   #8
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Martin, you are right about people in China not being able to access CCF.....at least part of the time. I've been on this forum since 2006 - but there have been times that I have not been able to access this site. Last year (2008) I would say that there was a 6 month period or so that I could not get to this site......and then magically one day I tried, and voila - I'm here again! It DOES seem like the activity on this forum has diminished............let's hope that it will pick back up soon.
I've just recently joined this forum and immediately noticed the lack of numbers and responses. However that's OK - it remains one of my 'always open' sites so if anyone says anything I'll nail them

I can confirm (of course - from my user name) that I live in China and have no problem accessing this site at the moment. However probably the biggest issue for us living here is the (seemingly) random blocking of servers by the Chinese Govt. They find a server with something they don't like on it and BAM ! all other sites hosted on that server are blocked too. My own site has had to be moved twice within the last year (and no it's not subversive or porn )

Looks to me like you are doing a great job Martin - hope you get more support soon. If anyone needs photos of anything ask me - I'll try and get them for you but can't promise I can or that I'll be quick !
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Old 10-13-2009, 11:14 AM   #9
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Looks to me like you are doing a great job Martin - hope you get more support soon. If anyone needs photos of anything ask me - I'll try and get them for you but can't promise I can or that I'll be quick !
Thanks Shanghai Rohens and welcome to the CCF!
Feel free to post anything you find interesting. China is still a mystery for most foreigners.
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Old 10-16-2009, 08:38 PM   #10
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Actually, I am seeing some INCREASE here in the activity of the forum, and some great new members from the land "down under"!! It also helps that 2009 has been a VERY active year for new car introductions in the chinese market (or so it seems), and from the way it looks 2010 will be just as busy. Also, with several chinese car companies on the verge of breaking in to the "big 3" market areas (Europe/Japan/USA) in the next 1-2 years, AND the fact that China is a LEADER right now in developing new "green" technology for cars.............it gives us A LOT to talk about! Here's something to think about mods - how about a new sub-forum here just for news/comments about "green" cars/technology/innovations/etc. I know we comment about individual models in each of the manufacturer's sub forums, but I'm talking about a new forum area where we can centralize that and make comments on this rapidly growing area of the auto industry - REGARDLESS of manufacturer. Environmental infrastructure (green technology) is becoming one of the new "hot" areas for investment in America, and the impact on the world auto industry is significant, long term and far reaching. I think it's worthy of a new forum area here............what do you think mods?
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