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Old 12-14-2009, 10:29 AM   #1
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Hello everyone!

I am geralilio, an Assistant Manager for a Great Wall dealer here in the Philippines. We just opened our Dealership last Friday, and we had a chance to have the staff members of our local version of Top Gear Magazine as guests. Apparently, i cannot post URL's yet since this is my first post, but once I am able to, I'll post the URL immediately. Or, you may just google "Top Gear Philippines".

Anyway, the local distributor brought in 6 Great Wall Models, namely the Coolbear, Peri, Florid, Hover, Cowry, and Wingle. We got mostly positive reactions from people except for some who are still skeptical about the quality of China-made cars.

We managed to sell a 4x4 Hover on our first night, and I think there will be more sales to come. Great Wall products, I think will be very competitive here in our country, as they offer great value for money and good looks.

I'd like to say hi to micodelija, whom I've been following in this forum for a while already. I really like how he stands by Great Wall with all his heart. I will try to do the same here in the Philippines. I will also try to post some pictures of our Showroom here at the forums once I get around learning how to post pictures.

Anyway, thanks guys, and I hope to talk to all of you!
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Old 12-14-2009, 11:56 AM   #2
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Welcome to the forum geralilio.
Good luck with your bussiness venture. How are other Chinese companies doing in the Philippines?
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Old 12-14-2009, 12:43 PM   #3
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hello my friend and welcome to this forum, i also see you facebook profile about great wall vehicles in philippines and wish you all best in the future
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Old 12-15-2009, 08:40 AM   #4
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Hi Martin! Thanks for your reply.

Hello again micodelija. I have some questions for you. Is the 2.8L TC engine of the hover and wingle really rated at 95hp and 225Nm of torque? because i think that is a bit low for a CRDI engine with a big displacement. Just to compare, a mitsubishi montero sport being sold here in the Philippines with a 2.5L engine is rated at 134hp and 320Nm. But one of our clients was able to drive both cars and he thinks that the hover is more powerful.

I hope you can answer my question. Thank you!
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Old 12-15-2009, 10:04 AM   #5
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Hi Martin! Thanks for your reply.

Hello again micodelija. I have some questions for you. Is the 2.8L TC engine of the hover and wingle really rated at 95hp and 225Nm of torque? because i think that is a bit low for a CRDI engine with a big displacement. Just to compare, a mitsubishi montero sport being sold here in the Philippines with a 2.5L engine is rated at 134hp and 320Nm. But one of our clients was able to drive both cars and he thinks that the hover is more powerful.

I hope you can answer my question. Thank you!
problem is in chinese laws about fuel consuption,i am sure that you see that many suv anc pick up manifactures in china have the same engines or similiar, gasoline 2.2 with 78 kw, 2.4 with 93 kw, diesel 2.8 with 57 or 70 kw. that's the only reason why this engine have 70 kw or 95 hp, that low don't allow engines with big power and big fuel consuption

for the comparing between hover and mitsubishi, maybe hover have better gear ratio then mitsubishi, but i am sure that with 134 hp mitsubishi have better top speed

but if you start work with gwm, you can also order new diesel engines like 2.5 tci or 2.8 tci, 2.5 tci have 80 kw and 300 nm, while 2.8 tci have 85 kw and 285 nm, 2.5 tci is quite popular in china and gwm also export lot of vehciles with such engine
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Old 12-15-2009, 10:13 AM   #6
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here is photo od 2.5 tci engine, main difference between 2.8 TC in that he have intercooler and some smaller other changes

here is photo of new 4d20 engine, 2.0 with 110 kw, this engine gwm present at shanghai auto show

here are the parameters

my suggestion is that you surf thru this topics more, you will found many useful informations for you
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Old 12-15-2009, 11:22 PM   #7
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Hi micodelija thanks for your reply. I could not really get in touch with Great Wall directly because we are just one of the dealers here in the Philippines. There is an exclusive distributor who brings in the cars for us. Hopefully when the Hover gets refreshed, we'll get a better engine than this one, and maybe automatic transmission also.

There are also a lot of other China brands here such as:

Chery
JAC
JMC
Jimbei
Dongfeng
Chana
Lifan

Top brands here now in the Philippines that are not China Cars are the following:

Toyota
Honda
Mitsubishi
Kia
Hyundai
Mazda
Ford

Here in the Philippines, Kia is actually more expensive than Hyundai because the two brands are distributed by different companies. But, they are both more expensive than Mitsubishi and Toyota.

By the way micodelija, I also want to ask, are the engine parts of Great Wall compatible with other brands? Like maybe the 1.3L and 1.5L gasoline engine would be compatible to Toyota or the 2.8L diesel will be compatible to Isuzu? Sorry if I have so many questions. I really love this brand and I want to be able to market it here in our country the best way I can.
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Old 12-16-2009, 12:19 AM   #8
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hi sir geralilio!

I just saw your newly opened showroom along EDSA-Balintawak last sunday. I was able to drive the GW Peri last April at the World Trade Center
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Old 12-16-2009, 02:35 AM   #9
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Hi micodelija thanks for your reply. I could not really get in touch with Great Wall directly because we are just one of the dealers here in the Philippines. There is an exclusive distributor who brings in the cars for us. Hopefully when the Hover gets refreshed, we'll get a better engine than this one, and maybe automatic transmission also.

There are also a lot of other China brands here such as:

Chery
JAC
JMC
Jimbei
Dongfeng
Chana
Lifan

Top brands here now in the Philippines that are not China Cars are the following:

Toyota
Honda
Mitsubishi
Kia
Hyundai
Mazda
Ford

Here in the Philippines, Kia is actually more expensive than Hyundai because the two brands are distributed by different companies. But, they are both more expensive than Mitsubishi and Toyota.

By the way micodelija, I also want to ask, are the engine parts of Great Wall compatible with other brands? Like maybe the 1.3L and 1.5L gasoline engine would be compatible to Toyota or the 2.8L diesel will be compatible to Isuzu? Sorry if I have so many questions. I really love this brand and I want to be able to market it here in our country the best way I can.
i think that you shoud have better coomunication with your importer, to see what are their plans, great wall how have in offer the new diesel engines which are quite good

for the prices, usually great wall models shoud be at least 20% lower that other brands like toyota, mitusubishi and other, for the diesel parts,they fits on some isuzu engines without problem, simply you check for the code 4JB1 and compare the parts before ordering, especially oil filters and even some inside parts of the engines, for 1.3 and 1.5 i didn't have any expiriance because they aren't in offer in europe
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Old 12-16-2009, 03:13 AM   #10
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Hi micodelija,
Again, thanks for your response. I hope you do not get tired of me asking questions.

Hi carlocaraddict!

Great to hear from a fellow Filipino here in Chinacarforums. Anyway, We'll be having a small cocktail party here at the showroom on Saturday, 3pm. If you guys from bigbigcar.com are free, then it'll be great to see you all here. You can look for me, my real name is Germain Alilio.

See you!
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