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Old 09-24-2020, 09:24 AM   #281
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Hello Kegare, here the Nissan UD version, the logo is two characters in a cirkel.
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Old 09-24-2020, 09:30 AM   #282
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With the Roman trucks I mean the real MAN/Roman cab.
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Old 09-24-2020, 10:27 AM   #283
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Hello Kegare, here the Nissan UD version, the logo is two characters in a cirkel.
As much as I like deciphering logos, the badge just seems to read UD, but is painted over. I'll try to find the model name later. By the way, here's an interesting naming of a similar type of truck, the Komatsu-Nissan KNWF 12T, logging trucks made for the Soviet Union market.

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With the Roman trucks I mean the real MAN/Roman cab.
1991 for that one. But here's a puzzle, look at the air filter on both trucks in your post, Roman doesn't have that tall stick type. So a good assumption is that the truck on the LEFT (with small indicators) isn't a Roman but a Hongyan CQ. On the other hand the truck on the RIGHT has big indicators that I can only see on the Romans, but I guess the Hongyan got those too at some point? The little holes you see under the grille were also only on Hongyans and not on Romans.

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Old 09-24-2020, 05:17 PM   #284
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Pictured here is the Japanese market specification (RHD with fender mounted mirrors) TZ50HT (bottom truck in the second attachment) seen in a 70s catalog.

Edit: and here are the North Korean trucks with unpainted badges back in 2002.

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Old 09-25-2020, 07:02 AM   #285
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The little holes you see under the grille were also only on Hongyans and not on Romans.
Some Roman models have the little holes, e.g the 28.360 tipper.
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Old 10-03-2020, 02:34 PM   #286
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Kegare, both Benteng (Besturn) B50 versions are named Hwiparam 1610.
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Old 10-03-2020, 03:21 PM   #287
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Erik, thanks. I mistook that unclear picture of the poster (your second picture) with the pre-facelift first generation Benteng B50. But looks like it has the updated 3-slot grille. So I understand that Pyonghwa only rebadged the facelifted first gen B50 and then the next generation.

2008+ first gen


2011+ first gen

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Old 10-04-2020, 11:33 AM   #288
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This paper is on the side window of this car.
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Old 10-18-2020, 05:25 AM   #289
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Thanks to Kegare's photos (now on flickr: https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]/albums) I get the impression that not only new cars are rebadged, but also secondhand cars, with Pyonghwa or Naenara badges. Here two examples:
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Old 10-20-2020, 12:11 AM   #290
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Erik, are you thinking that because of the reflective stickers on the Ssangma? Those are factory fitted in China, I believe.
When the vehicles get to the showroom they already have those on, even in the factory premises
The Naenara pic is from 2012 so it could have been a new vehicle.

On another note, I removed the unknown truck, it was just a GAZ-3307.
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