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Old 08-14-2011, 11:15 PM   #181
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That's a very strange looking climate control panel. What you received appears to be manually controlled, right? In China, I've only seen the automatic climate control panels in H3/H5s with the new style instrument panel.

By the way, a Chinese website (image below) seems to indicate the high trim level 2012 H5 will get push-button keyless starting.


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Old 09-20-2011, 08:28 PM   #182
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Where is the 2012 H5 ?

A couple of 2012 models were shown a few months ago at auto shows. I was told they'd be available by now. But no news, and dealers haven't been told when to expect them.
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Old 09-28-2011, 05:10 PM   #183
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my hover 5 now have almost 35.000 km
here is some video with the car, acceleration and some fun in free time
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Old 10-17-2011, 02:19 PM   #184
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micodelija,
I am interested in buying New 2012 H5 with 2.0 diesel and auto transmission, "Sunroof" version. I know they are both licensed from Hyundai, but I wanted to ask you or anyone else that can provide any feedback on how reliable so far this engine/combo is and any known issues? Thanks!
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Old 10-17-2011, 04:00 PM   #185
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i think best for you will be to get a test drive, for now here in europe there was only gasoline version, but before 2 months ago in italy was exported first batch of 300 pick up's with diesel engines and as i hear comments are very good, i also had chance to drive it, there is still space for improvements but mainly it's a huge difference if you compare it with older engines, like 2.8 tc, 2.5 tci or other, also in new hover h6 diesel engine was upgraded and driving performance are even better, i can say amazing

i also know that this engine won many rewards in china so it should be good, also this engine use many components for famous brands, like common rail system from bosch and many other things, you can follow great wall official website and there is so many news about it, you can find there that this engine is rewarded as chinese best top 10 engines, at top 20 chinese media test "green and quite" also won a reward for quietness (43db) and consumption (6,8l), also this engine is approved by EU as great wall vehicles pass european type approval homologation

about gearbox,it's still new at the market...so we will see market reaction on it, you can find some test of russian journalist on youtube who had chance to test new hover h5 with automatic gearbox and diesel engine
i recommend this video from my colleague zenkevich

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Old 10-17-2011, 09:03 PM   #186
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Dieselhover, I'm in China. I want to buy a 2.0VGT/auto as well. The engine and transmission are NOT produced by GW under license. The 5-speed auto transmissions are purchased complete from Hyundai. They're made in Korea now, but could possibly be sourced from a Hyundai plant in China in the future. GW purchased the 2.0VGT diesel engine technology outright from Kia (Kia's last generation engine). This means GW has the freedom to alter it (which is good and bad). GW is still using Delphi injection as Kia did, but they cancelled the fuel heater that Kia's system included (a dumb move on GW's part). I personally feel Bosch fuel injection is far ahead of financially-troubled Delphi. A Bosch fuel system is standard on the 2.5TCI (with a fuel heater), and was "planned" for the 2.0VGT as a back-up solution if Delphi couldn't fulfill it's contract obligations.

I rarely see 2.0VGTs on the road, which is troubling. Most of the new H5s have the Mitsubishi 2.4L gas (which I'm told delivers better fuel economy than the 2.0 gas). I thought by waiting for the 2012 models to launch, GW would have more time to work through initial production problems of the 2.0VGT. But since there aren't selling many, I'm no longer sure about that.

The first 2.0VGT I drove had no power, and made troubling vibration metallic noises at higher RPMs. But the second 2.0VGT I drove about 2 months later had acceptable power (without the air conditioning turned on), and no abnormal noises came from the engine compartment. I was more or less satisfied. I'm sure it will yield great fuel economy, but engine power with the air conditioning on will be marginal until the turbo kicks in. I suppose, given the truck's weight and the air conditioning's drag, you can't expect more from a 2.0-liter engine. Yes, it's a VGT, which should broaded the turbo's ability to escalate the 2.0L engine's power range, but the engine's power range didn't "feel" any wider than the 2.5TCI. In fact, the 2.5TCI has significantly better driveability at all RPMs.

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Old 10-18-2011, 05:53 AM   #187
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chinesecars...maybe you should visit your dealerships again

at start great wall offer delphi common rail sistem, but little bit after engine is upgraded all new ones use bosch common rail, which have much better acceleration and reaction, you can very easily find a code and model on VIN plate, usually writen with CC6460...and then depend on variant

Quote from offical website:
Since 2005, Bosch's products have been extensively applied to the three main categories of Great Wall Motors' products and numerous innovations have been achieved through joint research and development of engines by both parties. In 2006, Great Wall Motors developed, in joint efforts with Bosch, the electronically controlled high-pressure common-rail diesel engine and became the first manufacturer using such technology in China at that time. The engine was applied to Haval series and later gained its prevalence on China's diesel-powered SUV market. In this May, Bosch's common-rail system was adopted in the diesel-powered Green Static 2.0T engine which matches Wingle 5, thus having increased its fuel-saving performance substantially.

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Old 10-18-2011, 07:14 AM   #188
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@ micodelija,
So I need to look for "bosch common rail" version of the new 2.0 diesel
One of the videos you posted, claims 9L/100k not the 6.8L GW claims?
On November 3-5 I will be test driving first 2.0 diesel that arrives here.
They send me some PDFs, but not sure if now one can get the Sunroof
with the AT version of the H5? It appeared only Manual tranny gets it?
I am not too hooked in the style look of the H6, I prefer the H5 look...

@ Chinesecars
I am glad that the 5-speed auto transmissions are purchased complete
from Hyundai, and I hope GW only improves the 2.0VGT and uses Bosch.
Still, if they get it right I am sold with a 2.0 diesel, now I drive a 1.4L

Please post any new photos/videos/pdfs/whatever you get on this one.

Thank you very much in advance!
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Old 10-18-2011, 08:10 PM   #189
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@ micodelija,
So I need to look for "bosch common rail" version of the new 2.0 diesel
One of the videos you posted, claims 9L/100k not the 6.8L GW claims?
On November 3-5 I will be test driving first 2.0 diesel that arrives here.
They send me some PDFs, but not sure if now one can get the Sunroof
with the AT version of the H5? It appeared only Manual tranny gets it?
I am not too hooked in the style look of the H6, I prefer the H5 look...

@ Chinesecars
I am glad that the 5-speed auto transmissions are purchased complete
from Hyundai, and I hope GW only improves the 2.0VGT and uses Bosch.
Still, if they get it right I am sold with a 2.0 diesel, now I drive a 1.4L

Please post any new photos/videos/pdfs/whatever you get on this one.

Thank you very much in advance!
about fuel consumption...in european ECE 2004/3 certificate for hover 5 diesel engine is written that lower fuel consumption is 6,7 liters at open road,mix is 8,0 and in city driving is 10l, russian journalist give their result at testing, which was maybe made at city driving or off road conditions, so of course consumption may be different

i am quite sure that if you enter in any showroom of great wall you will have fuel consumption information on the car, or at least sales man should know it
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Old 10-18-2011, 08:42 PM   #190
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Forget what the "official" website says. I'm here and can tell you the real deal. I stop by the local dealer (a large store) every 1-2 weeks. Every 2.0VGT has been built with Delphi. The blurb on the website actually refers to the 2.5TCi's Bosch injection system (which I like). They built a few 2.0VGT demo H5s with Bosch injection, but given Delphi offered a lower price and was the original supplier under Kia, they went with Delphi. I don't like Delphi. Bosch's technology is farther ahead. But I can't change the fact. Interestingly, the alternate Bosch 2.0VGT has a fuel heater integral with the fuel water separator (it's illustrated in the dealer's service manual), same as the 2.5TCi. It's easy to spot these trucks all have Delphi by looking at the Delphi name on the fuel injection control module and injectors, and Delphi's peculiar secondary fuel filter (which has no heater and can't be easily drained of water like the Bosch unit). The short primary fuel filter (under the rear seat/left side is the same for all diesel versions.
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