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Old 09-05-2020, 09:18 AM   #261
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The truck from the 1992 parade is a Volvo F88.

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In the 1970s, Sweden began to see North Korea as a lucrative market.[2] Swedish companies like Volvo, ASEA, Kockums, Atlas Copco, and Alfa Laval wanted to export their products to the country and held an industrial exhibition in Pyongyang.[3] During that decade, North Korea imported various items,[10] including about 1,000 Volvo automobiles that were never paid for, prompting Soviet diplomats to call it "largest car theft in the human history". These Volvos were a common sighting in Pyongyang until the 2010s. They have since become increasingly difficult to maintain.[11] North Korea still owes 2.2 billion Swedish kronor (234 million euros) to Sweden from these imports. Out of all countries, the North Korean debt to Sweden is the largest, followed by Iraq whose debt is a billion kronor smaller.[10]
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Old 09-06-2020, 05:38 AM   #262
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Kegare, unknown badge on the Xiali N5 is a Naenara badge. Intriguing, as the photo (2015) is from before the Naenara introduction advertisement of 2018.
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Old 09-06-2020, 06:43 AM   #263
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The Chinese name of Plutus Classic as mentioned in the context of these images (Image 1, Image 2) is not Dalishen but Dachaishen (大柴神) (Link).

Dalishen (大力神) (Link) is/was a Jinbei product.

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Old 09-08-2020, 11:50 PM   #264
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erik, those technical characteristics are from a North Korean school middle-school automobile education manual (page 308): http://www.mediafire.com/file/xb585p..._2010.pdf/file

The Sungri pic is from another middle school manual (page 81): http://www.mediafire.com/file/9qoaus...2012_.pdf/file

Also seen in this junior high school physics manual (page 84), but in black and white: http://www.mediafire.com/file/zur2x0...%2529.pdf/file

Combined with the page here which states the Sungri 58NA is a truck without a bonnet: http://www.tongilnews.com/news/artic...ml?idxno=13007

'승리자동차공장이 생산에 주력하고 있는 신형인 `승리-58나`형은 이전의 `승리-58가`형과 비교해 완전히 다른 디자인이다. `승리-58가`형은 외형이 일반 승용차처럼 보닛(bonnet)이 튀어 나와 있으나 `승리-58나`형은 일반 소형트럭처럼 보닛 부문이 없고 앞부분이 뭉툭한 형태를 하고 있다. 이 신형 트럭은 전체적인 외형면에서도 구형인 `승리-58가`형에 비해 안정감을 주고 있다.'

@Gag, dmitra, and erik - thanks for the info, updated the respective entries.
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Old 09-11-2020, 03:30 AM   #265
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Great, these school documents. That reminds me to our China research when Oliver Banham came up in the 1970s-1980s with hundreds of Chinese automobile technical handbooks bought in bookshops. We studied them all and did cross examinations with all these handbooks and our own sources. So we unveiled the existence of a BJ760 (the Dongfanghong) as some parts of the BJ212 were BJ760-coded.

Back to the DPRK: nearly all my pictures of the Sungri 61NA show double rear tires. The same for the Sungri 58KA, but there are some seldom exceptions, I have the idea that in that case they only mounted the outside rear tires (something we often saw in old days China). I have even one photo showing three rear tires: two on one side, one on the other.
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Old 09-14-2020, 09:38 AM   #266
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@erik, minor things - this needs a correction to Ssangma (twin horse) (쌍마) : https://www.chinesecars.net/content/sampa-0104

Last entry in https://www.chinacarforums.com/forum...4&postcount=43 needs a correction - 'Rungnado 5101 is a Huanghai bus' (instead of Hyundai)
Here it should be Rungnado as well - https://www.chinesecars.net/content/rugnado-5101

Samcheonri 0606 has a Golden Dragon badge: https://ibb.co/wStpf38
Currently it's listed as King Long on page 5.

Lastly, https://www.chinesecars.net/content/...le-decker-2019 should be 2020.
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Old 09-15-2020, 05:22 AM   #267
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Thanks, comments always welcome!!
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Old 09-16-2020, 11:05 PM   #268
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It's sad that the scene changed so much there nowadays. No more Volvo and Dacia taxis and beaten up trolleys/buses. Since the blue plates appeared there has been a massive drop in old stuff on the streets. Where have the old Sungris and Kaengsaengs that once filled the streets of Pyongyang disappear?

By the way, I've been looking for a rear view of the double decker rebodied Jinling but no luck.
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