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Old 08-12-2006, 03:27 PM   #1
kkrit ilovewasa
 
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Thumbs up I found two rare crash test in a video! (Hongqi)

I found a webpage contain .RM video files about Chinese cars (found from video.yahoo.com).

http://www.whgp.gov.cn/ReadNews.asp?...A2&SpecialID=0

That webpage is Chinese language, I don't know Chinese language, but now I downloaded a video about Hongqi (and Zhonghua),

Hongqi video I got : http://www.whgp.gov.cn/movie/jiaoche/hongqi.rm

and I found this picture from Hongqi video... (I don't know Chinese language, so I don't know what's name of that model.)



Unknown speed of crashtest.
In this picture, better than Landwind SUV, a little bit.

Note : before this crashtest, the first Hongqi in video, Hongqi CA7202E3, very good crashed in video if it was 50 km/h or more (but i think it's quick in video but too slow for real speed...).



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Old 08-12-2006, 03:58 PM   #2
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great find ilovewasa!
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Old 08-13-2006, 04:12 AM   #3
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Those are full width frontal impact tests. Any car can pass that test, even very old 1990 models.

Example:

The Hyundai Scoupe dates back to 1989.

http://www.nhtsa.gov/NCAP/movie/1995/scoupe.avi
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Old 08-13-2006, 07:13 AM   #4
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Quote:
Originally Posted by oo4load
Those are full width frontal impact tests. Any car can pass that test, even very old 1990 models.
The car is based on the Audi C3 platform used oin the 100/200 and the V8 , which had to pass the U.S. crash standard from 1983-1992. As far as I am aware HongQi's C3 based models use the original design and used factory dyes.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Audi_100
http://www.audi100-online.de/
http://www.audi-100-coupe-s.de/
http://digilander.libero.it/cuoccimi...hinesecars.htm

Here is a crach test for the C3 platform:
http://www.internetautoguide.com/cra...100/index.html
http://www.internetautoguide.com/cra...100/index.html





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Old 08-13-2006, 02:26 PM   #5
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Originally Posted by oo4load
Those are full width frontal impact tests. Any car can pass that test, even very old 1990 models.

Originally Posted by DOS
The car is based on the C3 Audi 100, which had to pass the U.S. crash standard from 1983-1992

- OK. I think that's mean Hongqi CA7202C3 and hongqi (Chinese name in picture, I can't read) are same level of safety as Audi 100...

- This is better captures

This car crashed (not CA7202C3)

Picture captures when this car (not CA7202C3) crashtest


Note: I can not capture picture of the "more damage" time of crash. (sorry)
In video, i seen dashboard was broken.

(I said CA7202C3 pass full width frontal impact tests., not CA7180A2E in DOS's picture, but i think they are same platform.)

but in that video, it isn't finished crash test video (like Landwind crasttest video), so i don't know how much damages when after crashtest.

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Old 08-14-2006, 03:06 AM   #6
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Here is wat happens in an NCAP offset test with such an old car. Remember, when these cars were designed there was no offset test...

VW Golf 2 vs VW Beetle (classic beetle )

The result for the Golf2 was actually worse than the VW Beetle. This tells you that at that time VW really couldn't care less about safety other than passing the mandatory full width test for EU/US type approval. Yes, this car passed the US type approval test.

VW Golf 2 (same period as Audi 100)


http://www.oeamtc.at/netautor/html_s...olf2_video.mpg

Basically, you die. I'd rather take the QQ.


Here's the Beetle

http://www.oeamtc.at/netautor/html_s...efer_video.mpg

And also remember: The current "old style Jetta" and various Chery cars are based on this Golf2/Seat Toledo design.
I sure hope they improved it for the windcloud/flagcloud.

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