[I_Hate_China]

Since the underpin didn't change from older Magnus, it shouldn't be too hard for Chery to clone.

 

[I_Hate_China]

Here are the first generation Daewoo Magnus/Chevy Epica(In Canada and China) pics.

 

[I_Hate_China]

Son of Orient cannot be sold in the US due to intellectual property issues(it is an unauthorized mechanical duplication of Daewoo Magnus sold as Suzuki Verona and Chevy Epica)

 

[fm.illuminatus]

This is a problem for a large segment of chinese cars... blatent ripoffism..

 

[hazik]

Chery Eastar does not even look like Chevy Epica - Daewoo Magnus. Chery introduced new Eastar before Daewoo come out with Magnus. How can they copy their car even before their car is released?

 

[Real_I_Hate_China]

Chery Eastar does not even look like Chevy Epica - Daewoo Magnus.

Styling change is relatively easy; Magnus, Epica, Verona, and Tosca look different from each other. what matters is what is underneath the skin.

Chery introduced new Eastar before Daewoo come out with Magnus. How can they copy their car even before their car is released?

Magnus came out in 1999. The reskinned model came out in 2006.

 

[Real_I_Hate_China]

http://www.newyorker.com/printables/fact/050926fa_fact2

In June of 2003, half a year before the Spark went on the market, Chery unveiled the QQ. It looked almost exactly like G.M.’s car but retailed for a quarter less: about six thousand dollars. Chery also introduced a sedan that appeared suspiciously similar to the Daewoo Magnus. Chery named that car the Son of the Orient.

It is a public knowledge that the Son of Orient is an illegal replica of Daewoo Magnus, recreated by ex-Daewoo engineers who took the design drawings with them during Daewoo'd banktruptcy proceeding.

 

[hazik]

If Eastar is a copy of Magnus, why didn't GM sue Chery like they did to QQ when they accuse QQ of being a copy of Spark.

 

[hazik]

The interior of Chery Eastar does not look anything like Daewoo Chevy Magnus

 

[Real_I_Hate_China]

 

[Real_I_Hate_China]

Any question as to why Chery's "flagship" cannot make it outside of China???

This is why Japanese and Korean automakers don't take Chery seriously; they are nothing but a bunch of auto pirates.

 

[hazik]

Any question as to why Chery's "flagship" cannot make it outside of China???

This is why Japanese and Korean automakers don't take Chery seriously; they are nothing but a bunch of auto pirates.

The Chery Eastar/Oriental Sun has been sold in many middle eastern and eastern european countries.

here is pic of people in Russian driving Chery Oriental Sun

 

[Real_I_Hate_China]

The Chery Eastar/Oriental Sun has been sold in many middle eastern and eastern european countries.

Yap, the places where there is no respect for other people's IPs. Which does not include the US and EU markets.

 

[hazik]

Yap, the places where there is no respect for other people's IPs. Which does not include the US and EU markets.

When Chery starts selling in developed markets, they can sell the Eastar because GM has no complaints about it.

 

[Real_I_Hate_China]

When Chery starts selling in developed markets, they can sell the Eastar because GM has no complaints about it.

God, you honestly believe GM lawyers are going to let this slip in the US and EU market??? Selling the Son Of Orient is considered a crime in the US and EU.

Even you can see how Chery ripped off an old Daewoo design presently owned by GM, can't you?

 

[hazik]

http://www.newyorker.com/printables/fact/050926fa_fact2



It is a public knowledge that the Son of Orient is an illegal replica of Daewoo Magnus, recreated by ex-Daewoo engineers who took the design drawings with them during Daewoo'd banktruptcy proceeding.

so the daewoo engineers took the blueprints for the Daewoo Matiz and Daewoo Magnus and gave them or sold them to Chery?

 

[Real_I_Hate_China]

so the daewoo engineers took the blueprints for the Daewoo Matiz and Daewoo Magnus and gave them or sold them to Chery?

They work for Chery now.

 

[hazik]

They work for Chery now.

Did GM fire them. If the Daewoo engineers work for Chery and designed their cars then it's not copying.

 

[Real_I_Hate_China]

Did GM fire them.

No, Chery lured them away with promises of a big payoff if they would come to Chery with stolen design files.

If the Daewoo engineers work for Chery and designed their cars then it's not copying.

Of course. But they didn't design QQ and Son Of Orient; they simply recreated them using the files they brought from Daewoo.

Employees moving between employer is fine. As long as no intellectual property is taken from the old job.

 

[hazik]

No, Chery lured them away with promises of a big payoff if they would come to Chery with stolen design files.


Of course. But they didn't design QQ and Son Of Orient; they simply recreated them using the files they brought from Daewoo.

Employees moving between employer is fine. As long as no intellectual property is taken from the old job.

What the Daewoo engineers did is not illegal. They were the ones who created the blueprints so they own the blueprints. If they want to work for Chery then it's their choice.