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Source: http://www.csmonitor.com/2007/0626/p13s01-woaf.html?page=2
NEW YORK - It all started with a petite blonde in a fury. Horrified by the violence she saw on trips to Darfur, and angry with what she perceived to be China's complacency on the issue, movie-star-turned-UNICEF-goodwill-ambassador Mia Farrow sent off a fuming op-ed piece to The Wall Street Journal in March. "These are the Genocide Olympics," she protested, in reference to the upcoming 2008 Games in Beijing. "China is funding the first genocide of the third millennium."

Smith College professor Eric Reeves, an activist who, together with Farrow, spearheaded the "shaming campaign" in which the Games are being branded as the "Genocide Olympics," says the Chinese will only be pressured to act in Darfur by appealing to its sense of national pride and honor and hitting them where it hurts most this year.

"They need to choose between the lucrative relationship with Khartoum and having their coveted Games lumped in the collective consciousness with Nazi Germany's hosting of the Berlin Games in 1936," Mr. Reeves says. The idea, he adds, is not to boycott the Games – as that would only end up punishing innocent athletes and making China seem like a sympathetic victim – but rather to "hold China's feet to the fire."

Soon, Steven Spielberg, who has signed on as one of the Beijing Olympics' "artistic advisers" found himself being drawn into the fray. Mr. Spielberg could "go down in history as the Leni Riefenstahl of the Beijing Games," Ms. Farrow had charged, referring to the German filmmaker considered by many a Nazi sympathizer and propagandist for those 1936 Olympics.

America's favorite director quickly flew into action, shooting off a private letter to Chinese President Hu Jintao. "I add my voice to those who ask that China change its policy toward Sudan," he stated. "China is uniquely positioned ... and has considerable influence in the region that could lead efforts by the international community to bring an end to the human suffering there."

A month later, in May, Congress jumped on the bandwagon when a group of 108 members sent a letter to the Chinese government warning that the Beijing Olympics could be endangered if China did not change its policies in Sudan.
The National Basketball Association was not far behind. Led by Cleveland Cavaliers forward Ira Newble – who, on the road with the Cavs in March, had read a profile of Reeves in the newspaper — various players across the league united to create a "Dream Team of Conscience." The group soon released its own open letter to the Government of China and the International Olympic Committee:

"We, as basketball players in the NBA and as potential athletes in the 2008 Summer Olympic Games in Beijing, cannot look on with indifference to the massive human suffering and destruction that continue in the Darfur region of Sudan."

Meanwhile, at a press conference last week, the Save Darfur coalition, together with Reeves, Farrow, Newble, and others announced the launch of a series of further actions to shame China, including a faux Olympic torch relay through countries that define the history of genocide. The relay will start on Aug. 8, 2007 on the Darfur-Chad border and travel through Rwanda, Armenia, Bosnia, Germany, and Cambodia. The relay will end in Hong Kong and will coincide with mass rallies at Chinese embassies around the world.

China, in response, has denounced these efforts to link the games with its foreign policy, saying such a campaign runs counter to the Olympic spirit.

"There are a handful of people who are trying to politicize the Olympic Games," Foreign Minister Yang Jiechi told reporters, stressing that the Games are a time to celebrate friendly ties between nations. "This is against the spirit of the Games. It also runs counter to the aspirations of all the people in the world."

But protestations aside, it seems someone in Beijing is listening. Shortly after Farrow's op-ed appeared, China appointed a special envoy to Darfur and reportedly stepped up efforts to persuade Khartoum to accept international peacekeepers in Darfur.

Pressure over the Olympics could help cause a shift from China's noninterference policy, says Reeves. "To date, what we've seen are largely cosmetic efforts, trying to 'respond to Darfur' on the cheap ... but as shame and dismay intensify, as the pain grows, we'll see a good deal more than cosmetics."
For those of you who don't know about the genocide in Darfur(Sudan)
that China is supporting, http://www.savedarfur.org/pages/background .

Please also visit: www.savedarfur.org to find out what you can
do to stop the slaughter of innocent civilians in darfur. This has gone
on long enough.
 

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Why didn't they start www.saveiraq.com ? Where were those 108 congress members when they had to vote for investigating the 'mishandling' of millions of black vote ballots? Oh no that would be criticizing the own governement, let's forget about that and complain about what other countries are doing.
 

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just a heads up that im going to delete this thread.

made in china... first off darfur cannot be blamed on any nation and if anyones to blame you have to blame african nations first then the rest...

also if your going to show favoritism towards darfur , then its not right and is purely biased. There are many conflicts in the world at present and in the past that have been worse...and were less natural in causes..

everything happens for a reason and theres always going to be someone to blame, but all im trying to say is blame sudan and other near african nations before you blame china

if you want to blame something, theres always a way to do so...

so lets narrow the blame game and point to the source
 

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Admin said:
just a heads up that im going to delete this thread.

made in china... first off darfur cannot be blamed on any nation and if anyones to blame you have to blame african nations first then the rest...

also if your going to show favoritism towards darfur , then its not right and is purely biased. There are many conflicts in the world at present and in the past that have been worse...and were less natural in causes..

everything happens for a reason and theres always going to be someone to blame, but all im trying to say is blame sudan and other near african nations before you blame china

if you want to blame something, theres always a way to do so...

so lets narrow the blame game and point to the source
I'm not blaming China. It's the sudanese government's fault, but
China is still helping them out.
 

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BTW Admin: This isn't antelope we're talking about, it's people who are being
murdered by their own government. This is serious, and if you delete it,
i'm leaving. Yet again, I'm not blaming China, but they're still an accomplice.
 

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4*real*Made_in_China said:
BTW Admin: This isn't antelope we're talking about, it's people who are being
murdered by their own government. This is serious, and if you delete it,
i'm leaving. Yet again, I'm not blaming China, but they're still an accomplice.
well im happy u ack'd sudan as being at main fault...lets see where this thread goes but

doesnt this thread take away from Chinese auto business?
Is the Chinese auto business taking away from the sudan gov?

Also Blame all nations that are not helping, please do not single out china. Lastly, just because this is a Forum on CHINA cars, doesnt mean that everything bad china does needs to be addressed on here....this should be more of enthusiast forum and talking baout the postitive points the chinese government is doing for the world

for example

Ghana: China Promises Ghana US$66m Loan
China Provides 3.6 Million US Dollar Loan to Zimbabwe
Ghana receives 3.75m-dollar "interest-free" loan from China
 

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well im happy u ack'd sudan as being at main fault...lets see where this thread goes but

doesnt this thread take away from Chinese auto business?
Is the Chinese auto business taking away from the sudan gov?

Also Blame all nations that are not helping, please do not single out china. Lastly, just because this is a Forum on CHINA cars, doesnt mean that everything bad china does needs to be addressed on here....this should be more of enthusiast forum and talking baout the postitive points the chinese government is doing for the world

for example

Ghana: China Promises Ghana US$66m Loan
China Provides 3.6 Million US Dollar Loan to Zimbabwe
Ghana receives 3.75m-dollar "interest-free" loan from China
therefore i am leaving this thread as to compromise with 4real.made.in.china
 

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well im happy u ack'd sudan as being at main fault...lets see where this thread goes but

doesnt this thread take away from Chinese auto business?
Is the Chinese auto business taking away from the sudan gov?

Also Blame all nations that are not helping, please do not single out china. Lastly, just because this is a Forum on CHINA cars, doesnt mean that everything bad china does needs to be addressed on here....this should be more of enthusiast forum and talking baout the postitive points the chinese government is doing for the world

for example

Ghana: China Promises Ghana US$66m Loan
China Provides 3.6 Million US Dollar Loan to Zimbabwe
Ghana receives 3.75m-dollar "interest-free" loan from China
Yes, China does a lot of good in the rest of Africa (for it's own benefit).
And yes, other countries need to get their act together and do something.
The differece is that China is a major trade partner of Sudan and buys
sudanese oil (about 7% of all oil in China comes from Sudan), of which
70% goes on reportedly to pay the military to attack civilians. China is the
one country that can put the most pressure on the government to stop the killing. I like China as a country (not neccesarily as a govt.), I like the Chinese people and Chinese culture very much, but this is a serious problem that needs to be adressed.
 

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Let me explain more: This isn't an attack against Chinese people,
businesses(not chinese cars either), Chinese culture, or even China,
this is meant to help raise awareness and to put pressure on the
Chinese government(in particular b/c of their special power) but
not at all exclusively, we need to put pressure on our governments
by writing letters, organising events, etc... Let's not have a fight
admin, let's stick together for the sake of humanity. I'm not pitching
a fight, I'm just looking for some help, to give some hope to people
who've had everything taken from them by the hatred of their government
who wants to "cleanse" their country ethnically. After WWII, we said "never
again" would we let such a horrible thing happen, yet it's happened again
and again notably in Bosnia in the early 90's , in Rwanda in 1994
and for the last 4 years in Darfur. We can stop in now, we just
need to be united and make sure these crimes don't go unpunished.
 
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