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This pup(the BYD e6)weighs 4,400 pounds! By comparison, the car I own, pictured below(that isn't my car, I own one just like it though...same color, too),
weighs about 3,300 pounds.
 

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The added weight is in the batteries. That's one of the challenges in EVs...how to get the battery weight down. As for the structure of the battery cases, there are all kinds of safety considerations at hand.

According to the Bloomberg TV News network the other night, BYD has only sold 30 of these EVs. That can't be right can it?
 

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dragin-it probably just came out in China, eh? How long has it been for sale and in what markets is it available in?

It's not coming to the States until late 2010 or early 2011-seems I've heard both estimates.
 

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hey guys,

long time no see. I have been quite fascinated about this car, and all the EV technology. And this is what I have came up with

"Fe" battery is short for LiFePO4 (Lithium Iron Phosphate) battery, this is a new type of battery that is similar to the Lithium Ion battery (Chevy Volt, as well as your cell phone) but so much newer and better in the following ways.

Power Weight ratio: Slightly below Lithium Ion but not much
Price: Slightly pricier than Lithium Ion
Charge cycle: 2000 vs 1200 for Lithium Ion (A HUGE HUGE HUGE plus)
Greenness: Landfill approved vs. Special waste treatment for the Lithium Ion
Capacity vs. Lifespan: Fantastic at around 2000 cycles, the battery should still hold more than 80% of its original capacity.

And it turns out the LiFePO4 battery is so green you could literally eat it, and it has been done by the founder of BYD at a certain press conference. And BYD being the leader in this new Fe battery technology, it is in a very very good position. The BYD F3DM is already on sale, with this Fe battery. And by the time the Chevy Volt is on sale with its outdated battery, BYD would have already sold 500,000 F3DM and god knows how much e6's.

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I forgot to talk about the quick charge.

for those not too familiar with electronics, when you charge up a car its very similar to...well filling up a car. In a gas station get a super large hose that would deliver a considerable high flow rate, thus filling up your car with petrol in around 5min. But if you have a household pump, say about the flow rate of a fish tank pump it would take you hours and hours to fill up your car.

your regular household socket, delivers a max of 120V and about 15A (20A at some places, but rare). For running a car, this "flow rate" is similar to the fish tank pump it would take hours and hours to charge up the car. but if there were charging stations with say 220V and 100A you could charge up the car in a lot less time.

well you may think that, why not have 4400000V and 10000000A so I could charge up my car in 5min? well the answer is because the batteries would blow up. there is a maximum amount of "flow" the batteries could take. what BYD has done is created a battery that is capable of charging up 50% in 10min assuming you could deliver enough "flow".

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hi, gr8
it's nice that you're so confidential with all this technology.
but could you bring some proof such links or documents...
i can tell my dog can read in swahili, but you'd not beleive that even if i'd shoot it on a video...
Fe batteries are know-how and we can't wait to reveal the secret...
if you can help, please facts are more then welcomed..
didn't ment to be harsh, but could you be a lil more concrete please ;)
 

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Hi Johnny Blaze,

Well personally I am a mechanical engineering undergrad, and to be a mechanical engineering they require you to have a small level of electronic knowledge. Below are some of the links from wiki, where I learned most of this stuff.

LiFePO4 (Most of the important data is on the right box)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lithium_iron_phosphate_battery

Lithium Ion
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lithium_ion_battery

BYD F3DM info (again important data on right box)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BYD_F3DM

BYD e6 info
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BYD_e6

Chevy Volt info
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chevy_Volt

BYD CEO eat battery
http://green.autoblog.com/2009/04/14/wang-chuan-fu-byds-ceo-drinks-battery-fluid-to-prove-a-point/

let me know if there are something you don't understand

gr8
 

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gr8 said:
Hi Johnny Blaze,

Well personally I am a mechanical engineering undergrad, and to be a mechanical engineering they require you to have a small level of electronic knowledge. Below are some of the links from wiki, where I learned most of this stuff.

LiFePO4 (Most of the important data is on the right box)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lithium_iron_phosphate_battery

Lithium Ion
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lithium_ion_battery

BYD F3DM info (again important data on right box)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BYD_F3DM

BYD e6 info
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BYD_e6

Chevy Volt info
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chevy_Volt

BYD CEO eat battery
http://green.autoblog.com/2009/04/14/wang-chuan-fu-byds-ceo-drinks-battery-fluid-to-prove-a-point/

let me know if there are something you don't understand

gr8
"Don't beleive the hype"
Wiki is not that resource, to consider it's info as an axiom
it's a pitty but sometimes the content is blowing my mind...
 

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Depends on quality and whether or not there is enough interest. Personally, I think BYD is aiming a little high at pricing the E6 at $40k is simply because the Chevrolet will be better quality, have more equipment and tech and better public opinon. It will also have a better dealer network as well. I'm not saying that the E6 is a bad car in anyway, but $40k for something like that is a little too much.
 

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I agree, BYD best price the new e6 closer to $30,000. Then it will be subject to the Federal Guv-Mint's $7,500 "green car" rebate here in da States, and some of the price will be taken off. But $40,000 is way too much for the BYD e6.
 

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If all data is true for this car I'm all for it!

$40K is kind of steep - they should have several price options:

For basic stripped version with a smaller battery <$25K (150mi range)
With more options and bigger battery <$35K (240mi range)
With all fancy options and the bigger battery plus a removable battery that fits in the trunk for extended range driving <$45K (300mi range). (Plus solar panels on the roof and hood of the car would be nice!)

The $25K entry price would generate all kinds of media/public buzz - basic marketing 101.

I want one now! More reasons for me to put solar panels on the roof of my house!
 

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BringIt-I have been looking at the BYD e6 for over a year now. On paper it does sound very impressive. Yeah, your price breakdown makes more sense for them to offer early, they'll sell more e6's right off the bat that way.
 
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