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Byd F0 at 2008 Moscow Auto Show.





Byd presented during the Moscow Auto Show new very car very important for the growth of the brand in the old continent and especially in Russia: The F0. Formerly known as F1, to avoid having problems with the Formula 1, BYD has had to change the name of the car.

In Russia the F0 will be available from next autumn and although the price has not been communicated, we already know that it will become one of the models more accessible to non-national brands on the market. It is rumoured that the price could reach the 200,000 roubles, which comes to be at current rates, about € 5,500 / 8,145 dollars.

As for the engine, employs a small block of a litre of petrol Cubic capacity that develops an output of 68 hp more than enough to move 870 kilograms with agility. The average consumption is around 4 l/100 and unlike in other products from rival brands, will have no automatic transmission for the time being.
 

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BYD F0 goes on sale today from 45,800 yuan

September 02, 2008


Shanghai, September 2 (Gasgoo.com) BYD Auto's F0 goes on sale in the home market this morning, priced from 45,800 yuan ($6,711) to 55,800 yuan depending on different specifications, a Xinhua report said.

"BYD absorb the pressure rising from high material costs on itself and the low starting price shows BYD's good commitment to consumers,” said Xia Zhibing, general manager of BYD Auto Sales Co. He added that the car makes less than 1,000 yuan in average profit per vehicle.

F0 is powered by a 1.0L engine generating 50 kW of power and 90 Nm of torque. A five-speed manual transmission is also standard.

BYD said it has spent five years on its small car product program. The F0 was previously named as "F1" but was thereafter changed into F0 to avoid possible label conflict with Formula One Group.

In the first half of this year the company sold 72,357 vehicles, a year-on-year increase of 94%. It plans to double its sales, setting its target for 2008 at 200,000 units, and 400,000 units for 2009.
 

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5 years time spent on small cars and the fact that BYD is absorbing higher material costs is impressive for forward sales for them. But it also ought to make a good impression right now on those in the domestic market, for they are witnessing a commitment to them from BYD for a good start.
 

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Uh............the Panda is not really a copy. Similarities? Yes, but that's it. Have you seen the F0 or the Panda in person? I have - the Panda has a completely different front, different style tail lamps in the rear, the interior is not even close...........give Geely some credit. Now, the F0 IS a clone of the Aygo, no doubt about that - but the Panda is trying to carve it's own niche.....and the upcoming Panda crossover is actually a cool little car!!
 

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i'm kinda curious how well this crashes

if they are smart they copied the 4 star rating the Aygo gets

i also wonder how successful this is because i suppose you can only sell it where toyota isn't represented
 

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Uh........................Toyota is VERY well represented in China. Toyota has chosen to not sell the Aygo in China (for whatever reason), so their smallest car here is the Yaris. I'm VERY surprised actually, that Toyota has not taken any legal action (that I know of) regarding the F0 and F3, as well as the Great Wall Florid and Coolbear (Scion clones). Back to the F0..............I'm not very impressed with it. Outside, it looks great..........but once you open the door and sit inside you see where BYD cut corners to save money and keep the car cheap to buy. For the same price, you can get a Geely Panda that is MUCH better on the inside, better quality overall (in my opinion) and the upcoming Panda crossover looks fantastic!
 

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the Aygo is made in Czech Republic for Toyota Citroen Peugeot

the fashion these days seems to be for Jap/Koreans to build one kind of car in Europe for Europeans and another type for Asia/American/Oceania

going by the pictures on this thread and the pictures of the Aygo they look similiar is quality too so from my perspective BYD have copied everything very well

I'm expecting the deficiencies are also evident in the Toyota original.

I'd like to see one for myself but the reality is I doubt Toyota or BYD will ever sell this car where I am.

I don't mind the Panda Crossover but only by those pictures on the thread. Not much else info available.
 

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Well...............marketing trends in the past did tend to gravitate towards one design in one area and another design in another - due mainly to the different driving styles of different areas. America has a different driving style than other areas because of it's many wide open spaces and america's love (traditionally) for big cars and big engines. Europe (and many parts of Asia) prefers smaller, more fuel efficient cars overall, and with China in particular the government here is strongly promoting the sales of compact and subcompact cars. Because of rising oil prices and the awareness of global warming, marketing trends are becoming more unified world-wide. America, for example will start getting the ultra small cars that Europe and Asia has enjoyed for awhile now, and more and more new models are becoming "world" cars (Chevy's Aveo debuted in China, but is sold all over the world - including America). The Aygo is another example.......built in the Czech republic, but available in Europe. I could easily see the Aygo ending up in the USA in the near future - a perfect commute car for busy american cities. Now, the BYD F0? In Europe or America? I HIGHLY doubt it. Since the Aygo (or it's sister models the Citroen C1 and Peugeot 107) is not sold in China, I think Toyota is simply "taking the high road" and avoiding a legal hassle here in the courts. However, if the F0 were to attempt to enter the european (or american) market I think Toyota would stand up and say "Uh.....I don't think so." Besides, it would never sell - the Aygo is typical Toyota quality and durability (and damn stylish for what it is), whereas the F0 is a cheap copy - cute on the outside, dreary on the inside. Interior parts do not fit well together, the seats are uncomfortable, it just FEELS cheap. I expected it to be better - the BYD F3 is much better in terms of quality and I had expected the F0 to follow that trend.

TonyJZX, I'm curious - what chinese (if any) cars ARE available in your area of the world? I'm lucky - I live in China so I have the chance to actually see, touch and drive many of the cars that we discuss here on the forums! One of my next cars on the list (of cars to test drive) is the Panda.....I've seen them on the street but I've not been to the showroom yet to get up close and personal. I'll take some pics, and THEN we can really discuss how it stacks up against the F0.
 

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there are no chinese cars where i am

we will maybe see the GWM Sailor and other cheap trucks soon

to give you a perspective, i drive a 4.0 litre turbocharged dohc 24v straight six sedan... 1,750kg, 300kW, 550Nm

my other car is a 2.6 litre turbocharged 24v straight six coupe... 1,380kg, 250kW, 450Nm

both drink petrol like you wouldn't believe but even so, i have a keen interest in small cars that are efficiently designed, even like the Nano, the Suzuki Altos, Hyundai i10s and Kia Fortes.

I appreciate the detailed pictures of the chinese cars here because there's no way i'd get to see them otherwise.
 

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The BYD F0 is by now one of the most popular cars in chinas capital cities because of the very good price as well as the better quality compared with cars like the original QQ geberation 1 till 3.
The 1.0 liter engine is stable and reacts fast.It is completly based on an older Suzuki engine.The interior is at least 2 levels higher then the QQ's.
It is a perfect city car for chinese customers.Travelling with cars is not such a big factor for chinese in general because of speed limits as well as different regulations for cars in different provinces.BYD expects to overraise the sales of the QQ's within the capital cities of china within 2 years.
The breaks of the BYD F0 are also much better as well as the material quality inside and outside.
In my and most of the chinese opinions - the BYD F0 is a close to be perfect city car for young chinese couple and singles livin within the capital cities of china. Even parking is china is much cheaper as long as you have a car with a lower machine then 1.8 liter.
0.8 -1.6 l 200 rmb per month
1.8 -2.0 300 rmb per month
2.5 -open 350 till 650 rmb per month;)
 
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