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BYD displays prototype electric vehicle at Beijing motor show

Xi'an, Shaanxi-based BYD Automobile, a manufacturer of cars and car batteries, has premiered its F3e model at the Beijing motor show.

According to its maker, the F3e produces zero pollution and zero noise.
 

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maby it would only be possible for china to start this electric/fuel cell car stuff going. :thumb:
 

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F3e Technical Specification

Continuous driving KM per charge: 300km、
0-100KM/H Acceleration time: 13.5S
Length: 4533 mm
Width: 1705 mm
Height: 1490 mm
Shaft distance (mm) 2600
Weight: 1530kg
Load weight: 375kg
Maximum speed 150 km/h
Maximum slop: 30%
Electricity Usage 12 KWh/100KM
Battery Type: Iron
Single Battery Capacity: (AH) 120
Single Battery Voltage: 3.3V
Total Voltage: 310
Number of Battery: 96
Battery Weight (kg): 350
Rated Synchronous Motor: 35KW
Maximum Motor Output: 75 KW
 

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A greener future

phaeton said:
Its interesting that the Chinese are exploring Electric power, I'm impressed :)
Yes, on the one hand Phaeton some are very serious, like the seventh richest man, Shi Zhengrong, owner of Suntech Power Holdings, a manufacturer of solar cells.

But on the other hand the F3E electric car didn't draw much of a crowd in Beijing as the photos show. To the masses I'm afraid its boring compared to the fossil fuel-burning bright red convertible that was displayed alongside of it. Hopefully through education this can change.

Note: It's interesting to see that they have chosen the fe battery, a lithium iron battery that is much safer than the fire prone lithium ion battery that's become a thorn in Sony's side.
 

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i would not feel safe in a chinese made electric car, what if i get short circuited, this electric technology is highly challenging for the mighty Japanese. China should sort its normal roads cars and not waste resources or PR gimmicks like electric vehicle
 

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Well.........

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i would not feel safe in a chinese made electric car, what if i get short circuited, this electric technology is highly challenging for the mighty Japanese. China should sort its normal roads cars and not waste resources or PR gimmicks like electric vehicle

Actually, if any country should develop electric vehicles it should be China! Something like 7 of the top 10 most polluted cities in the world are in China - electric vehicles are DEFINITELY needed here! I'm lucky - Nanning is one of the "cleanest" cities in China when it comes to air quality........but what of the other poor souls that live in the really polluted cities?

I also think that BYD is thinking pretty smart here........with their experience in battery technology they are a logical choice to lead the way with electric vehicles. Good luck to them, and I hope that other manufacturers will follow their lead!!
 

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god_bless_japan said:
i would not feel safe in a chinese made electric car, what if i get short circuited, this electric technology is highly challenging for the mighty Japanese. China should sort its normal roads cars and not waste resources or PR gimmicks like electric vehicle
it is good that you mention short circut. in fact battery is very easy to have short circut than others. not long ago, mighty Japanese comany Sony's Li-On battery get short circut and exploding and burning all over the world.

BYD is the second largest Li-On battery maker of the world, in fact, BYD made more Li-On battery than Sony and is a supplier to Dell. BYD's battery is doing fine while Sony's is exploding.

if BYD can beat mighty Sony in short circut on Li-On battery, the rest of electrical car is a piece of cake, don't you think?
 

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I actually think Chinese cars can do better overseas with electric, hybrids, or other advanced/alternative "fuel" vehicles than the conventional ICE vehicles.

The resistance to acceptance should be lower, since there's less established competitors and thus less brand loyalty.

When someone brings a fully electric crossover, with solar panels on the roof and the hood, well built and reasonably priced and backed, it will succeed. No doubt.
 

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From China Car Times:

BYD recently announced plans to mass produce the BYD F6, you might be thinking ‘eh? BYD already mass produce the F6!’ this time BYD are going to roll out a fully electric F6 model, not a hybrid but a true plug-in electric car.

BYD has apperently created a new kind of battery that uses iron, China Car Times is not battery expert, but what we’ve been told is that no other battery manufacturer uses iron in their batteries. BYD says it had 500 workers on the iron battery that it says will be used in the future in everything from cars to mobile phones to laptops.

What has BYD named this incredible invention after spending what must be millions and millions of RMB on R&D? They’ve called it ‘ET-POWER’, thats right, ‘ET-POWER’.

The BYD F6e (e being electric) will be produced next year in the Shenzhen reigon where BYD’s parent company (a mobile phone battery maker, funnily enough) has its headquarters. BYD claims that their battery can be recharged upto 2000 times before it starts to degrade, and rather impressively the BYD F6e batteries can be fully charged in 20 minutes, but BYD didnt announce any other specs such as top speed, acceleration etc in their announcement.

BYD also announced another product, the BYD F6DM. ‘DM’ means dual mode, this will be BYD’s shot at a hybrid that is likely to be used in China. In China, electric vehicles fall into a gray area where in some big cities electric cars are not allowed to be anywhere but in the bicycle lane as the local D.M.V wont issue license plates for them, but some other smaller cities actively encourage the use of Chinese designed and built electric cars and will happily allow the D.M.V to put plates on the mini cars.

BYD are easily going to place themselves as one of the worlds leaders in electric car design and manufacturing over the next few years. If you want the BYD F6E you’ll have to wait until mid 2008 when it is finally rolling off the production line.
 

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What's with all these incredible news coming out of Chinese automakers these days? First with Chery coming to US in 2007, now BYD with an electric car that has a battery that charges in 20min?!?!?

If this electric car is for real - real car capabilities, performance, reliability, etc. and with a battery as advertised, it would be an incredible hit all around the world! I'd buy one right now!

Need more info plz...
 

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20M full recharge time is wrong. it is 10M 50% rechange time using BYD charger, the next 50% will take a lot longer than 10M.
normal wall outlet full recharge time is 9 hours.
F6DM has a 100km electric only range, extra 330km extended range with a very samll onboard gas engine generator.
the most amazing part is the price: about 150K RMB, or about 20K USD, consider F6 is a full size family sedan, the same size as Toyota Camery or Honda Accord.
top speed is only 160km/hour(100m/h), but accelaration is much quicker than gas car.
there are a lot of mistery about "iron battery". no one knows about it.
 

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reliabilty wise, it suppose to be better than conventional gas car, because there are 50% less movable parts, no transmission, power directly delivered to the in wheel motors through wires. if the on-board generator is not much used, there is no service related to ICE(filer, oil change etc.), in theory.
 

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If everything holds true this is one incredible step forward for the Chinese auto industry!!!!!! Forget competing in conventional car techs, go right into the future!!!!!!! The consumers will be much more willing to buy these cars since there are no precedents!

Go BYD!!!
 

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BringIt said:
I actually think Chinese cars can do better overseas with electric, hybrids, or other advanced/alternative "fuel" vehicles than the conventional ICE vehicles.

The resistance to acceptance should be lower, since there's less established competitors and thus less brand loyalty.

When someone brings a fully electric crossover, with solar panels on the roof and the hood, well built and reasonably priced and backed, it will succeed. No doubt.

I totally agree with that.
It would need to have a good warranty on the batteries and controller like the Toyota do with the Prius. People are still afraid of high replacement cost's. China is no stranger to electric transport, they have Trolley buses, battery buses, electric scooters and millions of electric bicycles (the last 2 are already exported around the world) so an electric car would just fit in the middle. With the battery costs holding other makers back this company has a head start, that is if this iron battery is as good as they say it is, I hope it is.
 

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Chinese Automaker BYD to Launch Iron Battery Powered Cars in 2008

this sounds very soon , 2008!!!


SHANGHAI - October 12, 2007:


Chinese car maker, BYD Automobile Co Ltd, says that it will begin mass production of plug-in hybrid electric cars based on iron batteries in the second half of next year, Xinhua News Agency reported today.




“The iron battery proves to have better safety performance and larger capacity,” Wang Chuanfu, chairman of BYD, told a press conference at Shenzhen, adding “The battery can be fully charged within ten minutes at a charging station or roughly 9 hours at home.”

Wang said the battery will be first equipped on the BYD F6 E model (E being electric), which will be priced at no more than 150,000 yuan ($19,966) in the Chinese market.
 
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