[Raul]

Old Ideal:
http://product.xgo.com.cn/pic_list/2499/y2004.shtml
http://car.che168.com/pic/series_520.html

New version:
http://car.che168.com/pic/series_520.html
This car is a "Chery QQ killer" according to one Chinese magazine

 

[Raul]

Another new Changhe model. But what is the model name

 

[dragin]

name of minivan

This is the new Changhe-Suzuki Friend according to today's autoindex.com. But it mentions IPR so I'm guessing this was an exclusive in house joint development project. Available in 1.1 and 1.3 litre versions.

 

[pokershark]

i find both ugly

 

[Raul]

This is the new Changhe-Suzuki Friend according to today's autoindex.com. But it mentions IPR so I'm guessing this was an exclusive in house joint development project. Available in 1.1 and 1.3 litre versions.

Yes I noticed the news in Autoindex. Looks like I was little bit ahead in news

 

[Raul]

Changhe Ideal to be sold in Europe

Changhe Ideal is to be sold in Europe as a Suzuki Ideal. The car will be available only with a 1,1 liter 65hp engine. Price in Germany will be around €7,000

Here are some pictures of Changhe's Ideal model:

http://www.forocoches.com/foro/showthread.php?t=320851

 

[dragin]

quality issue

It's great to see a Chang'he so hopeful as to make the plunge, but are they ready? Take a look at the fit of the RH rear door on the red model. At first I thought it was not fully closed but a closer look at the top half says it is.
And how about those many grays, and blues in that interior. It's hard to tell if the color coordination is pleasing or not.
Well, I guess Suzuki is confident about the outcome if they will allow it to display their name instead of Chang'he's.

 

[cryptonx]

reminds me of some FIAT concept I saw ... dont recall the name

c'mon its not that ugly , look at the Daihatsu Charade .. pretty BLAND , yet it's selling very well .

 

[lotfi]

hello can u send me more pics about ideal I and ideal II
i need hd pictures 1024 x 768 and more

 

[calipha]

wonder

IS ideal a good car ?

 

[chinacartimes]

Went in one the other day.

Dashboard is awful. Truly awful.

 

[hesham ami]

if any one tray this car can he tel us if it good or not

 

[CCF mod]

More pictures of Ideal facelift.

 

[FaWzY]

Hmm...
Any idea about the car's performance?!
It's price is REALLY intriguing, and I find it pretty well packed, but I'd like to know how it'd be in comparison with Chery QQ?

 

[amrsayed]

i want to know car performance and what engine is it have kindly answer me as iam thinking in buy one from egypt

 

[CCF mod]

http://photo.bitauto.com/serial/2595.html

 

[CCF mod]

more pictures at:
http://car.autohome.com.cn/pic/series/76.htm

 

[YAQEEN]

Re: Changhe Ideal -facelift

Another new Changhe model. But what is the model name

The model's name is Freedom and it's sailled very well here in algeria, it's the new version on changhe dolphin

 

[YAQEEN]

Re: Changhe Ideal -facelift

If you want more informations about CHANGHE IdealII & Freedom glance at :http://yaqeenauto.spaces.live.com

 

[YAQEEN]

Re: Changhe Ideal -facelift

There're some IdealII engine's specifications

IDELA II LHD RHD
CH7141 CH7101B CH7111B CH7111BR
ENGINE
Model K14B DA465Q-2/D1 DA468Q/DA468QA
Type MPI， 16 Volves MPI， 8 Volves MPI， 16 Volves
Piston ml 1372 (83.7) 970(59.1) 1075(65.5)
displacement
Bore x 73×82 (2.87×3.25) 65.5×72(2.58×2.83) 68×74(2.68×2.91)
stroke mm
Compression ratio 9.5 8.8 9.1
Maximum
output kW/rpm 67 33.5/5000 48/5100
Maximum
torque Nm/rpm 112/4000 72/(3500～4000) 88/(3000～3500)
Maximum
speed km/h 156 120 140