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I could buy a Toyota Yaris with first-class engineering, quality, and mileage for $10,950.

So why should I choose a Geely CK over a Toyota Yaris?

If Chinese automakers cannot answer this question, then they shouldn't even bother knocking the doors of US market. Chinese market is big enough for them, stay home.
 

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What kind of Yaris would you get for $10k? 1.0l engine and 2 doors?

A 1.3l 5door Yaris costs $18000 where I live. (Netherlands) Yes, vehicle prices are rediculously high here (some 40% tax).

So why would you buy a Yaris when you can buy a $11500 car with more interior space and a 1.5l engine? We have a car like that here already, the Dacia Logan (cheap Renault built in Romania). It's not a high tech car, but neither was my 94 Hyunday Scoupe and I still enjoyed driving that.

But I have to agree on one thing, I wouldn't buy a Chinese car unless they improve quality by about 100000%. Except for the Zhonghua M1 and the Chery OrientalSun, I haven't seen any decent cars during my visits to China in the past 3 years.
 

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I dont think anyone will honestly in N/A buy a chinese car if they are marketed as "Chinese" cars. There's an image attached to china (piracy,$1 store crap, mr.Mao,...). Until they stop pirating evrything from dvds to shoes, this image will ultimately drag them down, especially if the cars they try to sell here are highly dervative designwise.
 

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americans will buy anything. Look at daewoo, they only made crappy cars and they sold alot in the 2 years they were in north america. I would rather buy a Chery than a Daewoo.
 

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HYUNDAI is a perfect example...started off with the EXCEL!!! which was the cheapest and one of the worst/cheapest quality overall in US/CDN markets...and look how hyundai grew!! and finally this year they are launching luxery cars to compete with NISSAN maxima..this is big improvement

CHERY AND GEEELY will be like this...but over time :)
 

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HYUNDAI is a perfect example...started off with the EXCEL!!! which was the cheapest and one of the worst/cheapest quality overall in US/CDN markets...and look how hyundai grew!! and finally this year they are launching luxery cars to compete with NISSAN maxima..this is big improvement

CHERY AND GEEELY will be like this...but over time :)
Chery and Geely won't take as long as Hyundai to grow big. If all ethnic Chinese people bought Chery and Geely instead of foreign brands Chery and Geely would already be the largest car manufacterers in the world.
 

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Chery and Geely won't take as long as Hyundai to grow big. If all ethnic Chinese people bought Chery and Geely instead of foreign brands Chery and Geely would already be the largest car manufacterers in the world.

LOL!!!!!! the US will think it is a conspiracy and stop letting asians in the US thinking they will boycott GM and FORD:lol:
 

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LOL!!!!!! the US will think it is a conspiracy and stop letting asians in the US thinking they will boycott GM and FORD:lol:

very few asians in the US drive American cars. They drive japanese cars most, some others drive German and korean cars but very few drive american cars.
 

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HYUNDAI is a perfect example...
Hyundai is NOT the perfect example.

started off with the EXCEL!!! which was the cheapest and one of the worst/cheapest quality overall in US/CDN markets...
At least Hyundai's engineering was contemporary(Thanks to Mitsusbishi) and this is why people took the bait; Chery's engineering don't look quite contemporary.

and look how hyundai grew!! and finally this year they are launching luxery cars to compete with NISSAN maxima..this is big improvement
At the cost of tens of billions of dollars poured into R&D.

CHERY AND GEEELY will be like this...but over time
Do Chery and Geely have $60 billion/year parents providing tens of billions of dollars in R&D money???

It costs at least $500 million ~ $1 billion to define a chassis structure and $200 million to put a body over it. If you cannot afford to blow at least $2~3 billion a year in R&D, then you cannot compete.

If all ethnic Chinese people bought Chery and Geely instead of foreign brands Chery and Geely would already be the largest car manufacterers in the world.
All the Chinese people are driving Japanese and German cars. You can count overseas Chinese out as potential customer base.
 

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Real_I_Hate_China said:
All the Chinese people are driving Japanese and German cars. You can count overseas Chinese out as potential customer base.
Many overseas Chinese are nationalistic, they'll buy a chinese car just because it's a chinese car. Just like nationalistic koreans buy korean cars just because they are korean cars. I bought a Chery because the Chery logo means Chinese pride to many Chinese people.
 

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they'll buy a chinese car just because it's a chinese car.
You overestimate them. Shouting "China Power" at some sporting event is one thing; actually driving a Chinese car everyday is another. Beside, Chinese are historically known for being unpatriotic.

Just like nationalistic koreans buy korean cars just because they are korean cars.
??? Koreans don't buy Korean cars outside of Korea, it is all BMW, Mercedes, and Lexus for them. Ditto for overseas Chinese.

I bought a Chery because the Chery logo means Chinese pride to many Chinese people.
But would you still buy a Chery when you can buy a comparable Toyota(sans leather seats) for less???
 

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I dont think anyone will honestly in N/A buy a chinese car if they are marketed as "Chinese" cars. There's an image attached to china (piracy,$1 store crap, mr.Mao,...). Until they stop pirating evrything from dvds to shoes, this image will ultimately drag them down, especially if the cars they try to sell here are highly dervative designwise.

I think people have short memories. When the first Japanese cars came to the US, Japanese goods also had a reputation for being cheap and shoddy. So did the Koreans.

People always doubt the unfamiliar, but when Chinese cars have been in the US for a while, people will not think twice about them.
 

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You overestimate them. Shouting "China Power" at some sporting event is one thing; actually driving a Chinese car everyday is another. Beside, Chinese are historically known for being unpatriotic.


??? Koreans don't buy Korean cars outside of Korea, it is all BMW, Mercedes, and Lexus for them. Ditto for overseas Chinese.


But would you still buy a Chery when you can buy a comparable Toyota(sans leather seats) for less???

If the Chinese cars prove themselves to be of decent quality (at least comparable to Hyundai) I would prefer to buy Chinese cars, because I want to support China's industries.
 

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Many overseas Chinese are nationalistic, they'll buy a chinese car just because it's a chinese car. Just like nationalistic koreans buy korean cars just because they are korean cars. I bought a Chery because the Chery logo means Chinese pride to many Chinese people.

What country are you from? Are you from the Middle East?
 
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