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here is first photos of new hover which will be presented at auto show in shanghai

 

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Re: Great Wall Hover

http://car.cqnews.net/hlxc/200903/W020090320366891006658.jpg
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http://car.cqnews.net/hlxc/200903/W020090320366891468427.jpg

here is some more photos of h5 model, i was expecting much more from gwm, this is still a hover from 2005 year, only with new front, also interior don't look much more modern, that old one look much better to me, i am wonering why GWM did this, because all other models of vehicles have much modern interior, i was expecting more from car which is best selling chinese suv in last 4 years

 

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and here is temporary model h3, which will be on the market unitl h5 was finished, this h3 look much better to me:

new grill and new front bumper, also the engines are still old based mitsubishi engine, most of manifactures offer an engines with 110, 120 kw...and gwm still have 100 kw, also they use new technology for passenger car, and i just wondering why they didn't install newer and modern engine in hover, i have no doubt in quality of that mitusubishi engine, but personaly i would like to see at least 170 ps gasoline and 150 ps diesel engine in hover

 

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Re: Great Wall Hover H5

here it is, the new H5 live, new interior, new seats, more airbags,new side doors panels

 

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Re: Great Wall Hover H5

now is vehicle homologated for 5 persons, also have new rear doors, this small button near logo is for opening, he also got camera for rear driving, also new rear bumper, new fog light, new rear light in LED style, etc

dimension of hover is now 4649x1810x1735
engine is mitsubishi 4g69 with 100 kw
also car is now weight 1805 kg, 25 kg less than before

here is me near hover H7

 

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Re: Great Wall Hover H5

thank you very much, you can see lot of improvments on this new hover, by my opinion they simply improve all by the demands of the european customers, there was also a manager from italy and we is also delighted with the vehicles, i think that this car will be more and more competetive at any market

some european press was there and I told with them, from france, they sit into car and take a photo under the dashboard, i ask him why he is doing it and he told me tha this car is poor quality??? i was shocked, there was also some more people with him, next to GWM was BMW and i show him differences between bmw x5 and hover, that hover have much stronger 4x4 sistem, especially with 4L mode, hover also have chassis which bmw don't have so he can very easily drive on heavy off road, i also present to them the mitsubishi engine, brake sistem from bosch etc...and they was so suprised with it, i also told to them that my car have 100.000 km and that they can arrive in croatia anytime they want to try it, also i present them the price...you can get luxury suv from 23000 €, and in europe you can't buy and luxury suv under 30000 € which will have drive skills and equipment like hover

i am wondering why european press came there to write something bad, they told to me that they never drive this car before and how can they be sure in his quality if they never see the production line and have a test ride???

 

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but it's stupid, i was wondering what photos he is taking for? also it was funny when that press-man ask who will buy this car in europe and gentelman from italy told to him that they import over 1000 vehicles...hehehe

 

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i can only say...the italian importer was there and we sit together in vehicle

 

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Re: Great Wall Hover H5

yes...and now VW ask BYD to sell them batteries ,haha

 

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Re: Great Wall Hover H5

haha, ma dobro je što sam ga uopće poslikao, bila je jako velika gužva na sajmu :thumb:

 

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Re: Great Wall Hover H5

zaista ogroman napredak, novi motor, novi interijer, udobnija sjedala i komfornija, više zračnih jastuka, itd itd, tiho ja bi te samo molio da mi ovako komuniciramo preko privatnih poruka, ipak ovdje večina ljudi govori samo engleski i već sam dobio nekoliko upita o čemu se radi, pozdrav :thumb:

 

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Re: Great Wall Hover H5

gwm plans to install automatic gearboxes in hover, but they must did some modification and changes on the chassis because of that, some new models like cowry or florid got automatic transmissions and gwm present them at the auto show, also front of new hover is little bit similiar to mazda, but hover is complety different vehicle, mazda don't have such aggresive 4x4 mode like hover, also mazda here in croatia offer only gasoline turbo engine with 260 HP, it's more like crossover vehicle while hover is really off road vehicle with that 4x4 mode which he had

also one intresting thing, on second photo you can see two new colors for florid model, first car from the left is like champagne gold and 4th car is really strong blue color

 

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Re: Great Wall Hover H5

http://www.mazda.hr/showroom/mazda3/overview/
if you mean this model, yes

but I am wondering what this information have with new hover?

 

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Re: Great Wall Hover H5

here i just found one photo of diesel model of H5, also it have different hood and front grill, by that i think that it's a intercooler engine inside, but i don't know which

 

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Re: Great Wall Hover H5

first...you should read topics before to discuss about this you will found many your answers there

yes, first i see that you have much different opinion and compare wrong vehicles, dr motor is a vehicles from chery group, so we shoudn't go off topic, dr 3 or 5 are much smaller vehicles then hover and problem there is in the manifactuiring in italy and selling under dr brand, for me serius brand will never give anybody to sell their vehciles under other brand, it's like you sell bmw with other name, this is not serisus, also the italians are doing their own modifications, fiat engines and so on...so i am also sure that there is some problems, but there is other issue,car sale statistic in italy selling of dr motor is going quite well, in italy there is also gonow, who try to sell their vehicles under katay brand name in italy, you see what happend? gonow is now selling under gonow brand in italy, not any other name, i am sure that company see that rename the products isn't good

now we talk about hover, i don't see any problem is vehicle have lpg or cng, hover have mitsubishi 4g64 engine which can pass over 500.000 without problem,this is "old school engines", they maybe aren't with much power, they maybe spend little bit more fuel but they are reliable! also there is some chinese laws which effect on that why hover and manyother chinese suv have this engine, also you write that this vehciles can't pass 100 or 200000 km, this is wrong, surf thru the topics more, only my car have 120.000 km, i also post of photo of hover which have over 220.000 km,join to chinese website autohome and bbs, you will found hover with over million km, join to chinamobil russian site and see what is hover in difficult weather like in russia, after all buy a hover and drive it for 4 year and then talk about the car, for the crash test i have certificates from test according by euro ncap, i have test from china-ncap, i have test from homologation, and finnaly i have personal test(fall into 40m dig),when you have expiriance like this...the car pass all possible tests, how is the chance that you will have the same crash during driving like those tests?? those tests are good for marketing and advertising, hothing more, in car accident you really should have so much luck and that god be with you


this old model of hover maybe don't have esp and 8 airbags, but is it really nessesary??? how many time you need esp and airbags??? you bought a car to hit with him in a wall or to drive it normaly? also for the esp, hover is a serius suv with real 4x4 mode, have you even see the chasis and 4x4 mode of hover? it's very simmilar to general motors(hover is based on isuzu) and toyota (gwm bought production line)

also it's very silly to compare nissan qq and hover because hover is much bigger, hover have much better 4x4 mode, those vehciles aren't the same class, you can compare hover with vehicles like hyundai santa fe, nissan xtrail, suzuki grand vitara, chevrolet captiva, honda crv, mitsubishi outlander or kia sorento and so on, but check first their prices with 4x4 and lot of extra which hover offer in serial equipment, all those vehicles cost over 30000€,and hover with full extra and 4x4 mode cost 23000, for 7000€ and much chaper cost of maintance...i personaly don't care for esp, 8 airbags and and other stuff, because i don't need this, the same is like for diesel engine, personaly i will never buy any car with diesel engine, diesel engines are noisy, more expensive for maintance,they stink, i had many luxurius cars like mercedes, bmw, chrysler, and others...all with gasoline engine, i had diesel only 1 time, vw passat and after that i decide that i will never buy diesel engine anymore, diesel engine should be used in tractors and trucks, not is big comfortable suv

also for that fiat law suit against great wall, firstly gwm didn't have plans to export peri to european markets,this is press writing idiotic articles, second...do you know how many italians work in gwm??? when you found out that you will know how fiat panda came into china

 

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Re: Great Wall Hover H5

intresting reply...personaly i will never buy a vehcile such as dr, simply it's not my type, anway it's good that car have fiat engines, i have fiat for over 10 years in my house and never we have any problems with them, i also have stilo 1.9 jtd,not for long time but this car almost go like my old bmw 525

for the ESP, EU will very soon make this as a standard, maybe it's good because over 90% drivers are very bad and made only 10000 km per year, i made over 80000 km per year and i really don't need the ESP, personaly this don't bother me so much, but it will be good that car have it, for many other users which don't have so much expiricance

for the volvo i can say all best, i had couple of them, s40, s940 and xc90. but they was very expensive for maintance, also here in croatia you don't have any good service for them, i will not compare a hover with volvo, volvo was a brand which always pay big attention to the security

but we can compare hover in other way, for over 5 years hover is best selling suv in china, hover got many european certificates, hover is selling in whole world, it's not avalaible in sale in US only, for all chinese suv's i can say that hover is best from them, in 2008 i personaly agree that hover was offical vehicle of croatian olimpic delegation and they was also delighted with them

for diesel engines, my uncle had renault clio with 1.5 dci, he had so much problems with it, especially with turbo and oil leakage, 1.6 hdi i had in my old cars where i work before, citroen c4, it goes well, don't spend so much fuel and simply it's not reliable, this small enignes can be used in small crossover vehicles like nissan qq, but in big suv like hover? hover have over 500 kg more then nissan, also it's much more comfortable, i had before mercedes ml and bmw x5, hover suspension is much better,100%, because i pass so much km per year i am quite sure in that, personaly for me is most important that engine is reliable, he never leave me on the road and i also have LPG sistem on it, you can read a topic here...100.000 km with my hover, you can see there my car, which i buy from italy

i don't agree that hover is copy of mazda cx7, my friend have it, car's are maybe similiar but not copy like gonow for example, check the model from gonow, it's almost 90% same like toyota land crusier/prado, hover design was made by italian desing studio and mainly keep the base from isuzu axiom, you also must know many chinese laws which allow those copy paste things in china, but mainly those vehicles aren't allowed for export, especially after so much affairs

 

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Re: Great Wall Hover H5

yes, hover in the future will have completley new engines, problem is law about fuel consuption in china, that's the reason why they are little bit limited with the power, simply the law don't allow stronger engines if it not complies the chinese law about fuel, you can now buy diesel engine in china, 2.8 tci and 2.5 tci but because of that law they are also limited to 80-85 kw

in the future hover will have a 2.0 diesel engine with at least 150 hp, and gasoline engines which will be 3.0 v6 enignes with over 200 hp

for the interior, in the old model which is selling in italy, simply this interior is took from isuzu axiom, isuzu axiom is model from 2002 year and gwm didn't change it nothing, only install there dvd and gps, new interior is much better quality, and finishing is also much better,however i now have hover for 4 years and don't have any problem with the interior, nothing is broke, nothing is making noisy sound

i am sorry, i don't speak italian, do you speak croatian?

 

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this is something different, not same category, this chinese laws aren't identical to type of vehicles, also great wall is know in china as low fuel consumers, many times great wall promote their engines like that, you have much promotions where diesel engine spend only 4,7 liters of diesel per 100 km, then small 1.5 gasoline engine spend only 2.6 liters and so on, you should join some chinese forums, you will found many intresting things there

for the hover h5, it will have updated enignes, mitsubishi 4g69 with 136 hp, steed have the same engine but with 126 hp, simply reprogramed the ecu sistem, also great wall also plans for europe to offer new diesel 4d20 engine, with 150 hp, i have a test ride with model which have 136 hp

also there is a big chance that great wall wil NOT offer H5 in europe, because completley new model is developing for europe

 

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new black interior in H5

automatic gearbox

 

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Re: Great Wall Hover H5

usually great wall don't allow such orders, before couple of years we demand from tham to put gwm safe interior in deer model, so they change it, during my last visit in company i saw many old models of hover with new interior from h5, and i also see many new models h5 with old inteiror, because those vehicles was used for testing,technicaly speaking i think that all of that fits in every model without problem, outside parts not, i also see couple of model with automatic gearbox but anyway main problem was 4x4 mode, simply with automatic they offer to us only 4x2 model

maybe you can see it clear on these photos but there is many changes when i compare older models and this h5 redesigned model, firstly is interior, new light, new seats, comands on sterring wheel, whole instrument panel, but there is also some technical changes on suspension and on color and anti corrosive protection, which is much better now

maybe you can order modified vehicles for your market, but this will take to you long production time, one time we order special made vehicles according to our wishes and production was very long, best it to order that when they offer regulary, becasue with that you can got your vehicles normlay, for 20-25 days they was finished