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Great Wall in Australia

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Does anyone have any insight into the situation in Australia? They were slated for about this time (middle '09) but there's been no word.

I would say the market has toughed up a lot with the Indian Mahindra starting at only USD$13,000 and even Thailand made Isuzu 4 door 2wd utes starting at only USD$20,000.

The Isuzu is at the upper end with airbags and a general Japanese design with a 3.0 litre turbo diesel motor. The Chinese would be more at the Indian end with no bags and a general 1980s attitude to safety.
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fiat are sold by the same morons who do GWM

ateco... so you have the popular models like the Fiat 500 but they are very very expensive... more sport hot hatches

i like the Panda diesel 4x4 but that's not sold here
you guys might feel interesting here
GWM sold 247 of its utes in July in Australia
from caradvice dot com.sorry i can't inset link
foxtraner said:
you guys might feel interesting here
GWM sold 247 of its utes in July in Australia
from caradvice dot com.sorry i can't inset link

That seems like a decent amount to me, but how does the number fare within the Australian market? ( I am in the US)
TonyJZX said:
fiat are sold by the same morons who do GWM

ateco... so you have the popular models like the Fiat 500 but they are very very expensive... more sport hot hatches

i like the Panda diesel 4x4 but that's not sold here
that importer of great wall isn't so popluar in australia?for fiat 500, it isn't expensive only in australia, it's expensive also here in croatia, from 13000 to 20000 €
foxtraner said:
you guys might feel interesting here
GWM sold 247 of its utes in July in Australia
from caradvice dot com.sorry i can't inset link
Those are very good sales figures for the current very limited dealerships nationally.

I'd be interested in a breakdown of SA220/V240 sales.

I saw the 3 models available at the Launceston TAS dealership last week, in the flesh so to speak the utes look quite good allround.
Is anyone aware of a SA220 (Sailor) or V240 (Wingle) road test done in Australia or NZ, either online or in a magazine?

If so, could you provide a link or details please.
Hover coming to Australia, model will be known as X240.

From The Motor Report 22.08.09:

CHINESE MANUFACTURER Great Wall Motors will release its first passenger car in the Australian market later this year to complement its V240 and SA220 medium-duty commercial utes.

Named the X240, the car will be a rebadged right-hand-drive version of the Chinese-market Hover crossover.

Based on the Toyota 4Runner’s chassis and with a body borrowed from the Isuzu Axiom, the X240 isn’t a particularly fresh design. The engine - Mitsubishi’s 4G64 2.4 litre petrol inline-four - isn’t terribly new either, but Great Wall importer Ateco Automotive will be banking on keen pricing and respectable base equipment levels to sell the X240.

Pricing details and a precise launch date are still unknown, but expect the X240 to land in dealer showrooms before the end of 2009.

According to documents submitted by Great Wall to the Department of Infrastructure, Transport, Regional Development and Local Government, the X240 will be sold in just one mechanical configuration.

The Mitsubishi-based 2.4 litre petrol four cylinder is the only engine that will be offered, and will produce 90kW of power. A five-speed manual gearbox will be standard.

The Australian-market X240’s tare weight will be a hefty 1830kg, and airconditioning, power windows, front and rear foglights, dual front airbags and ABS are expected to be standard equipment.

The X240 will spearhead the arrival of more Great Wall passenger cars, with the X240 set to be joined by a version of the Chinese-market Florid five-door small car by the end of this year.

Single-cab variants of the already-launched V240 and SA220 dual-cab utes will also make their way to Australia soon.
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From GWM's English language website:

2009-08-24
Hover RHD Gained the ADR Homologation Approval
On August 18th, 2009, Hover RHD (named as X 240 in Australia) is successfully homologated for sale in Australia. Hover is the third model which gained the approval of ADR homologation following with Wingle RHD and Sailor RHD (named as V 240 and SA 220 in Australia), and it also has been the first SUV model from China finishing ADR homologation.

At present Wingle RHD and Sailor RHD have made a good performance in both Australia and New Zealand market, the sales volume was over 300 units in July and there are over 50 dealers. The entrance of Hover will greatly promote the Great Wall brand further in Australia market, and to make great support to the dealers’ network.


Note: ADR is the abbreviation of the Australian Design Rules (ADRs) are Australia national standards for vehicle safety, anti-theft and emissions, ect. The ADRs are generally performance based and cover issues such as occupant protection, structures, lighting, noise, engine exhaust emissions, braking and a range of miscellaneous items.
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this will be a big test because it'll go up against Xtrails and Santa Fe's and other medium sized SUVs

i think Hover crashes ok so i reckon 3/4 stars on the ANCAP will be what it gets which won't be enough

also the interior doesn't look up to scratch, nor are the engines competitive

this will be a tough battle even with a discount on the price
Supposed Peri Australia specs.
Model
CC7130MM02

Type
Petrol

Engine
GW413EF engine

Dimension L/W/H (mm)
3548×1580×1544/1581 (with luggage rack)

Wheelbase (mm)
2299

Tyre
165/70 R14

Kerb mass (kg)
1015

Luggage-compartment capacity (L)
206/860 (back row seat folded)

Engine type
4 DOHC 16V

Displacement (cc)
1342

Max. power Model
CC7130MM02

Type
Petrol

Engine
GW413EF engine

Dimension L/W/H (mm)
3548×1580×1544/1581 (with luggage rack)

Wheelbase (mm)
2299

Tyre
165/70 R14

Kerb mass (kg)
1015

Luggage-compartment capacity (L)
206/860 (back row seat folded)

Engine type
4 DOHC 16V

Displacement (cc)
1342

Max. power (Kw/r/min)
65/6000

Max. torque (Nm/r/min)
115/4200-5200

Max. speed (km/h)
160

0-100km/h accelerating time (S)
15


Max. torque (Nm/r/min)
115/4200-5200

Max. speed (km/h)
160

0-100km/h accelerating time (S)
15

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The Motor Report article mentions the Florid as being the next GWM product to Australian market after the incoming Hover/X240.

Given Ateco's preference for renaming the vehicles with a letter or letters followed by 3 numbers designating engine capacity, will the Florid follow on from SA220 (Sailor), V240 (Wingle), X240 (Hover) as something like the Z150?

Or perhaps the A150, if Ateco want to leave the 'Z' designation for future Ute or SUV type vehicles.
From www.caradvice.com.au 25/08/2009:

GREAT WALL MOTORS TO EXPAND RANGE.

Australia’s first Chinese automotive importer, Great Wall Motors, certainly seems to be building a sales foundation, and has announced plans to add three more vehicles to its range.

Two Great Wall twin cab utilities were launched onto the Australian and New Zealand markets in late June by local importer Ateco Automotive, and since then they have been selling as quickly as they can be supplied.

The entry level SA220 is priced at $19,990 while the up-market 2WD V240 is $23,990 on road, add $3000 to that if you want the 4WD version.

Official VFACTS industry figures show Great Wall achieved 274 retail sales in July, but a spokesman for Ateco Automotive, the importer of Great Wall, has advised that dealers actually took more than 300 new orders during their first full trading month.

Ateco says the existing imports will be supplemented in coming months by new models including a well-appointed mid-sized SUV, an economical small sedan and single cab versions of the current utilities.

All are expected to be on sale in Australia before the end of the year and further enhancements to the line-up including an eagerly awaited turbo diesel engine are also in the pipeline.

Great Wall launched with 43 dealers in Australia and six in New Zealand, but the dealer network is growing as Ateco works steadily through its appointment processes.

An Ateco spokesperson said the greatest short-term challenge facing existing Great Wall dealers is finding stock for their showrooms as they meet and exceed sales targets months ahead of expectations.

Great Wall availability is expected to improve soon as increased orders of freshly produced vehicles enter the country, while dealer willingness to embrace a forward ordering system has helped Ateco to better match supply to actual individual model demand.

According to Ateco’s Managing Director, Mr Ric Hull, “No one here is getting carried away at this early stage, but we are greatly encouraged by the initial success of Great Wall’s products and the enthusiasm of our dealer network.
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From carpoint.com.au 20/08/2009, this article gives the breakdown of SA220 4x2, V240 4x2 and V240 4x4 sales:

HORDES FLOCK TO GREAT WALL.

The first full month on sale has yield positive results for Great Wall Motors, but can sales momentum be sustained?
Ateco Automotive, the importer and distributor of Great Wall Motors (GWM), reports that the local dealer network sold 274 units of the Chinese-built light commercial vehicles during July.

With the entry-level SA220 racking up 62 sales and the 4x2 version of the V240 selling 85 units, it was the V240 4x4 that proved the most popular model in the range, on 127 units sold for the month.

"No one here is getting carried away at this early stage, but we are greatly encouraged by the initial success of Great Wall's products and the enthusiasm of our dealer network," says Ric Hull, Ateco MD.

Ateco took 300 orders for the GWM range during the month, a result that bodes well for the brand. Sales of pick-up/cab-chassis vehicles for July 2009 were actually 20.2 per cent (4x2) and 21.9 per cent (4x4) down on the same time last year, so Ateco has cause to be pleased with the initial demand.

The company also expects demand for the GWM range to remain strong through to the end of this year, as a consequence of the likely demand from small business buyers taking advantage of the investment allowance that officially ends December 31.

43 dealers have been appointed by Ateco to sell the brand throughout Australia and the network is still growing. Supply of the vehicles will be a short-term headache, says Ateco. Dealers are anticipating a further rush from buyers with the introduction of the X240 medium segment SUV (pictured), a small sedan and single cab variants of the current SA220 and V240 models in due course.
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phaeton[IMG said:
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Hi Phaeton...it's been a long time. Your photo quality is superb.

What kind of a reception has this dull paint finish received, anyone? Are they all flat like this?
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According to the online brochures at www.greatwallmotors.com.au, the V240 (Wingle) is available in "Milky White', 'Pearl Black', 'Sky Silver' for both the 4x2 and 4x4 versions, with the 4x4 also having the option of 'Jewel Red'.

The SA220 (Sailor) is available in 'Bright White', Imperial Black', 'Champagne Silver' and 'Sky Silver'.

The metallic paint options cost an extra A$350 over listed price.:eek:
Another road test article on the V240 4x2 hosted on the www.greatwallmotors.com.au site.

First drive: Great Wall V240 - 21/08/2009

by Peter Barnwell, Cumberland Newspapers

It was difficult getting into a V240 ute because they have been selling like hot cakes in the scant weeks since the Great Wall brand lobbed here.

Tradies have been hooking in just like the keenly priced Kia Preggio van all over again which is hardly surprising since the bloke calling the shots at Great Wall in Australia, Ric Hull, was also the boss at Kia when Preggio was around.

That’s why there’s a familiarity to the deal for buyers of the Great Wall V240, and the smaller 220 for that matter — a loan car after two days if there’s a problem and a three-year/100,000km warranty to start with.

The V240 4x2 we drove the other day is also full of goodies not expected for $23,990. Leather upholstery, for example, air conditioning, remote central locking, electric windows and exterior mirrors, decent audio, loud horn, bright headlights, chunky Kumho tyres, 16-inch alloys, anti-lock brakes and two airbags.

The V240 has a familiarity about it too - explained by Mitsubishi’s involvement with Great Wall. It’s essentially an earlier version of the Mitsu’ Triton, built in China. The engine and transmission are also Mitsubishi clones. Not expected was the way it’s put together - a whole lot better than we thought with only a few glitches in the footwell plastics and the flimsy cover over the passenger airbag to complain about.

It starts and runs just like a Triton and feels like one on the road too. Engine performance from the multi-point injected, 100kW/200Nm, four-pot petrol engine is adequate and fuel economy is a claimed 10.7 litres/ 100km - not bad for a dual cab ute weighing it at 1660kg and with a one tonne payload.

The engine needs a bit of finer fettling to the electronics to make it run smoother but apart from that, no complaints. The transmission feels like a Triton too with the selector stick a bit too far forward. Shorter drivers won’t have an issue. And like the Triton, it has a large turning circle.

But the ride is good with torsion bars up front and leaf springs at the rear, the steering is light and the brakes are powerful. It corners like a long wheelbase dual cab ute - acceptable - and has a decent size tray. We would choose a tray liner instead of some of the goodies inside.

The styling is innocuous and generally speaking, we have little to gripe about in the V240. Would we buy one or would we go for a used Thai-made ‘‘Japanese’’ one tonne ute?

V240 is hard to go past if you happen to qualify for the Government’s 50 per cent tax allowance sweetening the already tempting price.

And do you really want to be driving someone else’s discarded work horse?
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$350 is standard pricing for metallic paint here

on the prestige japanese cars it can get to $1,000

on the germans? closer to $2,000

for metallic paint

i see no point in getting anything but white for these
That is a gorgeous shot! Anyone knows how much it cost in Aust?
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