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How many Hovers have been sold in China and other countries like Russia. I heard Great Wall motors sold twice as many Hovers as Chery sold Tiggos.
 

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Great Wall sold more than 4070 cars in Russia in 2005.
Here statistics of the main firm in Russia, which sells them - "Irito".
Great Wall Deer – 3307
Great Wall SUV – 651
Great Wall Hover – 112

But there's another main seller - "Ochakovo auto". And we don't know statistics.
 

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Welcome Vladimir-S to ChinaCarForums :)
Thanks! :)

Here's statistics about Chery in 2005 in Russia. There were sold 476 cars:
Sweet (QQ) - 400
Tiggo (T11) - 61
Oriental Son (В11) - 8
Amulet (А15) - 7

Chery have different cars names in Russia! I don't know why, because only one model doesn't sound good in Russian language - QQ. It's means "crazy" in slang.

I can't give you links now - because there are limits for me as for a new member.
 

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Do you own deer pickup truck? how much tax do you have to pay to buy Chinese cars.
 

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hazik said:
Do you own deer pickup truck?
Yes! Actually not me, but my father :)

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How much tax do you have to pay to buy Chinese cars.
For this car tax = 105 horsepower x 15 Russian rubles (tax rate in Moscow) = 1575 russian rubles
In USD it's = 1575/28=56 US dollars
Maybe do you mean another kind of tax?

Price of truck was 16500 USD in october 2005 in Moscow. Now it's lower.
 

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Vladimir-S said:
Yes! Actually not me, but my father :)



For this car tax = 105 horsepower x 15 Russian rubles (tax rate in Moscow) = 1575 russian rubles
In USD it's = 1575/28=56 US dollars
Maybe do you mean another kind of tax?

Price of truck was 16500 USD in october 2005 in Moscow. Now it's lower.

what kind of engine does your truck use?
 

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what kind of engine does your truck use?
Just standart for all Greatwall pickups - Gasoline engine 491QE Injection Type, V=2,3 Litres, 105 horsepower, ...

hazik, what country are you from?
 

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Vladimir-S said:
Just standart for all Greatwall pickups - Gasoline engine 491QE Injection Type, V=2,3 Litres, 105 horsepower, ...

hazik, what country are you from?

I'm from malaysia, I own a Chery flagcloud.

Is the engine in your car a mitsubishi engine?
 

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hazik said:
I'm from malaysia, I own a Chery flagcloud.
Is the engine in your car a mitsubishi engine?
Chery flagcloud - nice car too!
About our Great Wall. All Deer trucks and Safe (SUV) in Russia are with the same gasoline Toyota 4Y chinese analog engine - 491QE

Only Hover goes with Mitsubishi gasoline engine with 125 horsepower (against 105 of Deer and Safe models)

And there is no diesel engines on any Great Wall cars in Russia. Yet.
 

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Do you see many chinese cars in Russia now, Vladimir?

Are you from Moscow?
Yes, I'm from Moscow.
In Moscow I see Great Wall trucks 1 or 2 times a day (of couse not in the center of city, but around, in suburbs). For a new brand it's good result. But I also see SS Rexton 1 or 2 times a day too, but Rexton has stated to sell only 1-2 months ago and it's minimum 2 times more expensive.
I also saw Hover - but only 1 time - yesterday. Very goodlooking car :)

And also saw Chery Tiggo 1 time. Chery Tiggo is quite expensive and it has no 4x4. So it's better to buy Hover 4x4, than Tiggo 4x2 now.

The main benefit of chinese cars is their low price.
GWM Deer pickups have no price competition at all!
But Chery - has! Flagcloud is a little cheaper than huyndai Accent and people prefer Accent as a reliable car.

First chinese cars in Russia was bad quality. And many people still afraid of its' quality. Many bad rumors.

There are some china-car-lovers clubs and internet forums where all the owners discuss their motivations of buying, tech info, modifying, problems, ...

There are many china cars in other cities - moslty Great Wall or ZX Admiral.
Russia is different. Near the Japanese border there only (near only) right-drived used japanese cars.

P.S. After I reach 10 post I'd give good pictures of russian offroad on chinese cars.
 
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