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What can you say about Xin-Kai?

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What can you say about Xin-Kai?
There were sold about 400 trucks and SUVs of this chinese plant in Russia. Then import stops because of very bad quality of these trucks! And now rumors of bad quality of Xin-Kai goes for Great Wall Auto cars, ZX Admiral, Chery - all chinese cars.




 

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Xin-Kai? i never heard of it, do you know another name for it?
maybe there are 2 names for it?
 

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is xinkai very popular in russia?? when u search for xinkai you get many russian sites dedicated to xinkai,

is xinkai more popular than ZXauto and Greatwall motor in Russia??
 

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is xinkai very popular in russia?? when u search for xinkai you get many russian sites dedicated to xinkai, is xinkai more popular than ZXauto and Greatwall motor in Russia??
No!
There is no Xinkai in Russia any more. Only about 400 cars (trucks and SUVs) were sold in 2005. Now import of them is closed because of very bad quality.
Xinkai is just one of the 1st chinese car in Russia - that's why there so many russsian web-sites. And actually of it's bad quality many people think that other chinese cars are of bad quiality too! Great Wall is quite popular. ZX Admiral less popular (because of broblems with spare parts and sometimes not good quality, and price is higher than Great Wall).





 

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Honda to file lawsuit over China's decision to reject CR-V patent application


- Honda Motor Co said it will file a lawsuit against China's State Intellectual Property Office (SIPO) over the patent authority's decision to invalidate the Japanese carmaker's copyright application for its CR-V sports-utility vehicle (SUV).

The company said the SIPO recently ruled that the exterior design patent application for its CR-V model is invalid because the new design is too similar to the original version, thus likely to confuse buyers, said Honda.

But the company insists that it has made remarkable improvements to the model and the new version is obviously different from the old one.

Honda began to make the first CR-V cars in 1995 and launched its new version in 2001.

At the end of 2004, the Japanese carmaker
filed lawsuits against two Chinese automakers, Shijiazhuang Shuanghuan Automobile Co and Hebei Xinkai Automobile Manufacturing Co -- two small-sized car producers based in the northern province of Hebei -- alleging that they copied the exterior design of the Honda CR-V model.

Currently no judgement has been made on the lawsuits.

Honda added that to date, it has sold 2.4 mln CR-V vehicles globally
 

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HEBEI XINKAI is a small Chinese company making various types of SUV's and pickup's. I don't have much information about this company but here's something. Xinkai exported about 400 cars to Russia in 2005. These were models X3 Pickup HXK1021 and X3 SUV HXK6490. Quality was crap.

Xinkai website is : http://www.hbxk.com/

No information in English available.

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FACTS:


- founded in 1984

- company re-organized in 1992

- in 1999 another company re-organization

- capacity is about 30 000 cars / year

- workforce: 350 people

- production in 2004: c.5000 cars

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MODELS:


These are the models currently available:


SUV:

- HXK6490 "XK Star". At least four different looks. Isuzu-based.
- HXK6490 "SRV" (CRV -copy)
- HXK2031 "Eagle Prince". This model is also made by Beijing (BAW). It's a
copy of Land Cruiser 90. In production since 2002.
- HXK2023E "Xiong Feng Xilie". Sourced from BAW. Old Jeep Cherokee with a new face style.

Pick-Up:

- HXK1021 (Isuzu-based). Two different faces.

Van:

- HXK6490 "HaiShi KeChe" is a "Hiace". Two different looks.
- A bus similar to Toyota Coaster. Model name unknown.

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PICTURES:


Good pictures are hard to find.


http://www.made-in-china.com/showimages/111/400062562/0/Double_Cab_Pickup_(Xinkai).jpg
HXK1021 Pick-Up. This model was sold in Russia.

http://www.xinkai-online.ru/zadmin_data/cars.show_image/7569.jpg
HXK6490 "X3". One of the newest models.

http://www.hbxk.com/cp/lywz.jpg
HXK2031 "Eagle Prince". Model from Beijing (BAW).

http://4x4.ba/images/20041010073559.jpg
HXK6490 "SRV". Honda sued Xinkai because of this copycat model.





 

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Vladimir-S said:
No!
There is no Xinkai in Russia any more. Only about 400 cars (trucks and SUVs) were sold in 2005. Now import of them is closed because of very bad quality.
Xinkai is just one of the 1st chinese car in Russia - that's why there so many russsian web-sites. And actually of it's bad quality many people think that other chinese cars are of bad quiality too! Great Wall is quite popular. ZX Admiral less popular (because of broblems with spare parts and sometimes not good quality, and price is higher than Great Wall).
What Xinkai models were sold in Russia ?? I made a new thread about Xinkai and collected some information there.
 

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Nearly all the users of Xinkai agree that they have VERY bad quality. And cars imported for the first time was even worse! Cars was of 2 models: Xinkai Pickup X3 and Xinkai SUV-X3. These Xinkai cars was more expensive than a much better Great Wall cars!
 

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Thanks for the info :thumb:

Vladimir, what can you tell me about Derways 313120 "Shuttle"? It is a Chinese Land Cruiser copy made by Dadi. When was this co-operation started ? What Dadi models are sold in Russia ? How is the quality ?? How many cars sold ?? :confused:
 

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Raul said:
Thanks for the info :thumb:
Vladimir, what can you tell me about Derways 313120 "Shuttle"?....
You're welcome any time! :thumb:
OK! I'll try to write averything I know about Dadi.

Dadi Shuttle = Derways 313120 "Shuttle"
Derways is small russian company with an owner - ex-vodka maker. The plant (actually they only assemle them) is located in Cherkessk in Kavkaz region.
Their previous model - Cowboy was really expensive, ugly and not really good quiality. Here's the link to photo http://www.theautochannel.com/news/2004/02/17/180922.2-lg.jpg

If you want to see some photos and tech in Russian about all Dadi cars - go here:http://www.chinamobil.ru/dadi/
In our russian forum we have no users of this car! But we've got one seller. I don't remember now - maybe they started to sell it in Ukraine!

About quality of Derways 313120 "Shuttle" (Dadi Shuttle) - opinions is different. One man saw it for the short period of time and says everything's ok! Another man saw it in a car repair garage and says that car have very bad quality. But actually the last man doesn't like chinese cars at all. So we don't know the truth about Dadi now!

Price is about 20-22 thousand $.
 

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Is the production of Cowboy 3131 still going on ?? In Derways website they are confident that a production level of 5000 cars per year will be achieved by the end of 2004.

http://www.derways.ru/eng/model_line.shtml

It will be interesting to see how well (Derways) Dadi cars will sell !
 

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Is the production of Cowboy 3131 still going on ??
They stoped production of Cowboy.
About Dadi Shuttle. I Think that they will not be very popular in Russia. Just because there are already Great Wall . I think Hover or even Safe (SUV) is better buy than Dadi Shuttle. HOVER - price is nearly the same, well known quality (good), better quipment of car (music, ...), same 2.4L engine, and MUCH more good-looking car, better design.

Maybe another model of Dadi will be popular? I don't know.
 

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Maybe 1 or 2 people really like Xinkai. I don't know.
Actually there's only 1 "Club of chinese cars lovers" or just "Xinkai club".http://www.xinkai-club.ru/ It's called "Xinkai club" because the very first member and the starter of this club has a Xinkai car. Now he owns Great Wall Safe (SUV). Xinkai is dead.
There are also 3 main forums in Russia (mostly Moscow) where we discuss chinese cars. And all the people are nearly the same at all these forums:
1) http://www.xinkai-club.ru/ - mostly for Great Wall cars and some ZX Admirals
2) http://www.chinamobil.ru/ - mostly for Chery Flagcloud and Great Wall cars, some ZX Admirals
3) http://wwwboards.auto.ru/china/ - mostly for Great Wall cars. Not many people active.
 

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Xinkai, Dadi, etc etc

Raul said:

HXK6490 "SRV". Honda sued Xinkai because of this copycat model.
That SRV has a "Dadi" logo but it does look just like Xinkai's (and other maker's)model that I have seen.(can't upload the photo since it's too large and I'm an ignoramus about photo file resizing).

Over at Fuqi Auto we can see that someone sold it the old Toyota Landcruiser dies, but who was it that sold the CR-V dies to all these companies.....?

As for the other Xinkai SUV's and pickups shown here, I'm guessing that they too are sourced from down in Guangdong by Fudi Auto. Get em where ever you can .........cuz folks are (or were) buying.
 
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