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Jialing JH600 ready for US?
By Susan Carpenter
November 28, 2007 '
KASHGAR, CHINA -- Riding 1,700 miles in eight days isn't anything I'd normally brag about. But I was riding a Chinese motorcycle. In China. Over pavement and gravel. Across the Tianshan mountains and the Taklamakan desert. From elevations of 13,400 feet to sea level. In temperatures from freezing to 100-plus degrees. So forgive me if I seem a little self-congratulatory for trekking the Chinese wilds on a Jialing JH600 dual sport.
Considering my stateside experience riding a few Chinese death traps and China's recent mishaps with poisoned pet food, lead-tainted toys and bad tires, my expectations when I saddled the bike were so low as to be underground. I really didn't think the JH600 would survive the trip with anything more than the handlebars intact. I wasn't sure I was even going to survive, but I was curious.
I'd signed up for a motorcycle tour of the Silk Road and noticed that the tour group -- Edelweiss Bike Travel -- was offering a Chinese bike in addition to the usual BMWs. If one of the world's largest motorcycle tour companies was using the bike on one of its most challenging trips, it couldn't be that bad. Could it?
Like most people in the U.S., I'd never heard of Jialing. It turns out Jialing is one of the oldest and largest motorcycle manufacturers in its home country. China Jialing Industrial Co. makes 20% of China's motorcycles, scooters and mopeds, or 2 million vehicles a year.
Like most Chinese motorcycles, Jialings are made in the Southeastern city of Chongqing, an area best known for its panda bears and hot-pot cooking. Jialing is the name of the river that runs through the city. What the JH stands for in JH600, that's not clear, but it could be Jialing Honda. Since 1981, Jialing has been working with Honda Motor Co. on its technology, and it shows on the JH600. The 600 cc single has four valves and is liquid-cooled. It gets about 60 mpg and meets Europe's E3 emissions standards.
Because Europe's standards are tougher than the Environmental Protection Agency's or even California's, the JH600 could, in theory, be certified for sale in the U.S., but Jialing hasn't tried that -- yet. According to the company's U.S.-based rep, Jialing hasn't figured out whether the cost of meeting U.S. government requirements will pay off in sales. Jialing bikes are relatively small, and Americans, who are significantly larger than people elsewhere in the world, continue to want large-displacement bikes.
http://www.latimes.com/news/printed...ory?coll=la-news-highway_1&ctrack=1&cset=true
November 28, 2007 '
KASHGAR, CHINA -- Riding 1,700 miles in eight days isn't anything I'd normally brag about. But I was riding a Chinese motorcycle. In China. Over pavement and gravel. Across the Tianshan mountains and the Taklamakan desert. From elevations of 13,400 feet to sea level. In temperatures from freezing to 100-plus degrees. So forgive me if I seem a little self-congratulatory for trekking the Chinese wilds on a Jialing JH600 dual sport.
Considering my stateside experience riding a few Chinese death traps and China's recent mishaps with poisoned pet food, lead-tainted toys and bad tires, my expectations when I saddled the bike were so low as to be underground. I really didn't think the JH600 would survive the trip with anything more than the handlebars intact. I wasn't sure I was even going to survive, but I was curious.
I'd signed up for a motorcycle tour of the Silk Road and noticed that the tour group -- Edelweiss Bike Travel -- was offering a Chinese bike in addition to the usual BMWs. If one of the world's largest motorcycle tour companies was using the bike on one of its most challenging trips, it couldn't be that bad. Could it?
Like most people in the U.S., I'd never heard of Jialing. It turns out Jialing is one of the oldest and largest motorcycle manufacturers in its home country. China Jialing Industrial Co. makes 20% of China's motorcycles, scooters and mopeds, or 2 million vehicles a year.
Like most Chinese motorcycles, Jialings are made in the Southeastern city of Chongqing, an area best known for its panda bears and hot-pot cooking. Jialing is the name of the river that runs through the city. What the JH stands for in JH600, that's not clear, but it could be Jialing Honda. Since 1981, Jialing has been working with Honda Motor Co. on its technology, and it shows on the JH600. The 600 cc single has four valves and is liquid-cooled. It gets about 60 mpg and meets Europe's E3 emissions standards.
Because Europe's standards are tougher than the Environmental Protection Agency's or even California's, the JH600 could, in theory, be certified for sale in the U.S., but Jialing hasn't tried that -- yet. According to the company's U.S.-based rep, Jialing hasn't figured out whether the cost of meeting U.S. government requirements will pay off in sales. Jialing bikes are relatively small, and Americans, who are significantly larger than people elsewhere in the world, continue to want large-displacement bikes.
http://www.latimes.com/news/printed...ory?coll=la-news-highway_1&ctrack=1&cset=true
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mememe said:Not so soon
yea but with growing markets around the world, who needs the US?
Ash
Do you have the report for Chinese motorbikes sale around the world ?
Do you have the report for Chinese motorbikes sale around the world ?
Looks like a nice bike....http://sameerkumar.blogspot.com/2006/08/jialing-jh600-chinese-bikes-cometh.html
just read this article on the papers this morning. when i saw the performance i kinda wanted one untill i saw the price. for 600cc and chinese brand i was expected to pay no more than 3000usd. because if the bike was 4000usd or whatever they said, i might as well spend one or two thousand more and get a kawasaki one lol.
I agree but also disagree (weird !!) , if it was priced too low, then people will immediately try to associate it with cheap skate, low price, low quality. I mean the old saying " you get what you pay for" does really work, I think Lifan is a very different manufacturer.gr8 said:just read this article on the papers this morning. when i saw the performance i kinda wanted one untill i saw the price. for 600cc and chinese brand i was expected to pay no more than 3000usd. because if the bike was 4000usd or whatever they said, i might as well spend one or two thousand more and get a kawasaki one lol.
cant agree anymore, but the traditional way to introduce a brand name in NA is to traget consumers wallets. its like would get buy the hyndai veracruz if it only cost you 4000$ more for a Lexus rx350? and i am also a big lifan fan, they make good engines.mememe said:I agree but also disagree (weird !!) , if it was priced too low, then people will immediately try to associate it with cheap skate, low price, low quality. I mean the old saying " you get what you pay for" does really work, I think Lifan is a very different manufacturer.
gr8 said:cant agree anymore, but the traditional way to introduce a brand name in NA is to traget consumers wallets. its like would get buy the hyndai veracruz if it only cost you 4000$ more for a Lexus rx350? and i am also a big lifan fan, they make good engines.
You might pick the Veracruz... since Car and Driver picked it as the better car... so its not only cheaper.. but it's better too.
My friend and I are car enthusiasts... and were VERY suprised by C D picking the Hyundai... so we went and drove one. CD was right.. it is at least as good as the Lexus. (We had already driven the Lexus).. NOW long term reliability??? Not sure how that will play out... But the Japanese car makers are gonna have to work harder...
Soon Hyundai is releasing the Genesis.. A V8 rear wheel drive luxury sport sedan that is to compete with the Lexus LS430/460. Prices will start at 40K and go up. It looks to be very nice... well over 300HP
All I am saying is that If the Jailing 600 IS a good bike.. well made, and has a good ride.. AND they can get past the "made in China" issues.. there will be a market for it... But they are gonna have to have decent dealer support or people will be afraid to try it.
Ken
Great products will sale, period. If this bike is as good as the competitors, sell it a bit cheaper to get in the market, and word of mouth will get the ball rolling. (Slap on a longer warranty too.)
This is the top motorcycle currently going into production in China. Great achievement that took Jialing nearly 4 years to complete. It's a question now on finding the suitable partners and distributors overseas to sell and invest in the marketing of this machine.
It turned out to be kind of a failure for Jialing investing all this money and effort into such a bike. As other posters have commented, this mainly has to do with the issue of price. Jialings' asking price (FOB Chongqing) is close to $4,000. This means that the retail price in the US or in Europe is likely to be close to $12,000 after delivery, taxes, duties, margins etc., which normally makes the bike three times more expensive. With this price, no wonder the bike failed miserably. Besides, it's really very very ugly...
its not ready for US market , unless price is 30-40% less of US BRANDS
I'm very much interested how this motorcycle works in a long run. I think if the price will be lesser 30-40% than the US Brands there is a possibility that the US based motorcycle will depreciate.
people will always say, "You get what you pay for."
they need to concentrate on "What am I getting for my money?"
for a cheap price you can get a lot of motorcycle. that will make people happy.
they need to concentrate on "What am I getting for my money?"
for a cheap price you can get a lot of motorcycle. that will make people happy.
I don't think so it is true right now.
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