[Raul]

Many news coming from Landwind's Belgium-based importer.

Automotive News Europe


Landwind will promote the Chinese origins of its vehicles when it launches sales of an SUV and a minivan in Europe next year. "We will be positioning the models as made in the workshop of the world. After all 60% percent of the world's computers are made in China," said Paul Williams, managing director of Landwind Motor Corp., the carmaker's Belgium-based importer for Europe.

Williams said the Landwind X-Pedition medium SUV will go on sale in 10 European markets including Germany, France and Spain in the first quarter of next year. Italy, the UK and Switzerland will get the car in the third quarter. Sales in the rest of Europe start in 2009. Landwind's Fashion medium minivan will launch in late 2008 with five- and seven-seat variants.

The X-Pedition will be aimed at buyers who live in rural areas who want a cheap, practical vehicle, Williams said. It will be offered with a choice of two gasoline engines, a 2,0-liter priced at €15,000 and a 2,4-liter priced at €18,000. A diesel model will be added later, Williams said. He did not specify a date.

The Fashion's prices will start at about €13,000. Landwind will target sales at value-conscious families and private businesses. "It will be the cheapest seven seater in Europe. We expect it to be a big hit with taxi drivers." Williams expects the Fashion to account for 35,000 of the 50,000 units that Landwind expects to sell annually in Europe by 2011. Landwind hopes to recruit 800 dealers in Europe including 300 in Germany.

Two years ago, Landwind pulled the X-Pedition from the European market. Sales were stopped after the car failed a crash test run by the ADAC. Williams said Landwind has since made 350 engineering changes to improve the SUVs safety. The X-Pedition will be crash-tested by EuroNCAP next month. The SUV will not go on sale unless it receives a three-star safety rating, Williams said.

He expects the Fashion to achieve a better safety rating than the X-Pedition because it has a more modern design. EuroNCAP has not set a date to test the model.

 

[Raul]

Most interesting points highlighted here:

Landwind will promote the Chinese origins of its vehicles

Landwind X-Pedition medium SUV will go on sale in 10 European markets in
the first quarter of next year (2008)

Landwind has since made 350 engineering changes to improve the SUVs
safety

The X-Pedition will be crash-tested by EuroNCAP next month (Nov.07)

 

[choyak]

Wow Jiangling could have FOUR classes of SUV's

X-Pedition
X-Cursion
X-Plorer
and the smallest would be X-Cape!!!!!!

 

[daewoo-chevrolet]

Bijvelds is a Dutch importer, not a Belgian. The sales from Landwind in The Netherlands:
2005: 57
2006: 52
2007: 19

 

[mememe]

Huh ? Instead of increasing, it is decreasing. Very poor sale figure. anyone can explain this ?

Is this the reason in the article above ?

Two years ago, Landwind pulled the X-Pedition from the European market. Sales were stopped after the car failed a crash test run by the ADAC.

 

[mememe]

Most interesting points highlighted here:

What is the result of the crash test ?

Quite a number of reports said that Landwind will only come back to Europe when their cars hit at least 3 star crash test and Euro 4 emission.

 

[CCF mod]

Landwind is returning to German market.

Belgian importer Landwind Motor Corporation will start selling modified X6 which got 3,5 stars at EuroNCAP crash test at a price of around 15.000 EUR. Also later this year Landwind Fashion will be introduced to German customers with basic price of approx. 12.000 EUR.

source:
http://auto-presse.de/news-auto.php?action=view&newsid=25676

Translation:

The Chinese automobile brand Landwind reverts back to Germany. From the summer, the GS6 SUV for around 15 000 euros. The General Import for Europe, the Belgian Landwind Motor Corporation, German main dealer be loud "kfz operation" Automobile Reinders from the Lower Melle. Germany will start with a quota of 1 200 vehicles. For the EuroNCAP crash test awaits the main dealer 3.5 stars. Also later this year, the seven-seater Landwind Fashion in Germany from a base price of 12 000 euros in the trade.

In 2005, the mark of the manufacturer Jiangling Motors tried in Europe foothold. When you cut the crash test was offered jeep model with a catastrophic result, whereupon the import initially reinstated.

 

[mememe]

3.5 stars ? Euro-Ncap does half a star too ?

 

[mememe]

Landwind in the UK



EXCLUSIVE: Chinese carmakers say UK still on for late 2008

30 April, 2008

By Guy Bird

Some of the breeze might have blown out of Landwind’s proposed UK debut this summer with the departure of its European MD Paul Williams earlier this year, but the brand says it’s still on course to be the first Chinese car manufacturer to arrive on UK shores by late 2008.

The Rover (reborn as Roewe), Geely, Chery and Great Wall brands could all follow within three years.

Landwind’s European sales director, Robert Pronk told BusinessCar: “We’ll be the first one. As far as we know we’re the only Chinese brand with an EU type-approved car. Other brands are a year or more away.”


Pronk says its X-pedition compact 4x4 will be first this autumn followed by the Fashion seven-Seat MPV. He refused to go into details about a sales process but said all would be revealed this summer and that the firm was confident its car would gain a three-star NCAP crash rating.

New brand Roewe showed the highly competent 550, a VW Bora-sized saloon, at the Beijing motor show last week to slot under its 750 (the old Rover 75). It goes on sale in China in late 2008 with a plan for Europe not long after.

UK Subaru and Daihatsu distributor IM Group is in ongoing talks “too sensitive to divulge” with several Chinese carmakers, but reckons 2010 is still a feasible UK launch date.

http://www.businesscar.co.uk/story.asp?sectioncode=1&storycode=2885&c=2&theme=0

 

[mememe]

So is the 3 star rating confirmed yet ? or is it still "would" and "will" ?

Well we are only 1 month away from Autumn 2008 now.

 

[erik (laofan) cmvdc]

No, there has not been any crashtest yet.
The German text says:
"Für den EuroNCAP-Crashtest erwartet der Haupthändler 3,5 Sterne."
(The importer EXPECTS 3,5 star for the EuroNCAP.)

 

[mememe]

Can the crashtest be executed in 1 month time ? or Landwind will miss the deadline again.

 

[Joest]

In France, Asie Auto (the Landwind apointed importer) isn't rushing to get the Landwind X-Pedition on the market.
They fear that people might confuse it with the controversial Shuanghuan CEO (because, you know, it's "a chinese SUV".)

 

[mememe]

^^ good move I'd say

 

[daewoo-chevrolet]

Landwind will finally return on the European car market! Importer Bijvelds will start selling the Fashion as Landwind CV9 in The Netherlands and Belgium from June 2010. Some articles translated with Google Translate:

Landwind try again

Landwind want summer to end on the Dutch market. This time it is presented in the midi-MPV CV9 brought from China.

Some years ago, tried the Chinese Landwind to get a foothold in Europe. The SUV, which was then fed to an impact test, however, fell through the ice. Despite modifications to the car, did not want more rafts with the brand three years ago and went back Landwind.
Next summer, in the Netherlands and Belgium this CV9 midi-MPV on sale for prices from 14,495 euros. Later, the rest of Europe followed. This year promises Landwind an electrically powered CV9. The model is reminiscent of the fashion that the Landwind first adventure was proposed as a second model after the SUV. Peter Bijvelds importer declares that the above CV9 much money invested in the quality and safety of the car. Including the Van der Valk is a shareholder in his company.
The CV9 has an approval for 27 European countries. In the first full year should be 1500 copies sold. Landwind has 35 dealers in Europe, which together have 45 showrooms.

Source: http://www.autoweek.nl/autonieuws/13946/Landwind-probeert-het-opnieuw

Chinese Landwind back in showroom

The Chinese car manufacturer Landwind comes from back in June on the Dutch market. Thick four years ago, Asians already tried to break pots with a large SUV, but this failed adventure firmly opposed by major problems with the security bots. Now a new attempt was made with only 14,495 euro costing Landwind CV9.

The midi-MPV in China as 'Fashion' is sold in the same segment as the Opel Zafira and Ford C-Max.

According to Peter Bijvelds, through Landwind Motors Corporation Europe import duties for all of Europe, the new CV9 not suffer the same fate as the SUV. "This car is absolutely safe, the false start three years ago, the Chinese learned a lot. Even when Landwind we know that absolute security is a eerste service necessary for Europe to be successful. The CV9 by the German TUV and TNO Automotive in Helmond tested. It shows that he is in a EuroNCAP crash test at least three stars will get. not a ceiling, but enough to get the car absolutely safe to call, "said Bijvelds. CV9 has the default include two airbags, ABS, electronic brake force distribution and seatbelt pretensioners. It comes with a 1.6 petrol or 2.0, respectively 97 and 139 hp delivered.

Source: http://autotelegraaf.nl/autonieuws/...edia/archive/00711/Landwind_711586a.jpg[/img]

 

[erik (laofan) cmvdc]

Is there an EU type approval? Never heart of it.
What about the fact that the CV9 is nearly out of production in China?
(total production 2009: 893 units, January 2010: 41, February: 11)
I have seen the model here shown with Bijleveld already on 25-10-2006 in Erp (Netherlands).

 

[erik (laofan) cmvdc]

Here is the photo from my archive.

 

[daewoo-chevrolet]

It came as a great surprise to me also.
But why do you think the Fashion/CV9 is nearly out of production? Landwind presented the Fashion with new interior in December 2009 according to the Landwind Fashion thread on CCF. And the Fashion have always sold in poor numbers if my figures are correct: 1.048 units in 2008 and 1.654 in 2007, which is not very strange when you see the Chinese prices: it's more expensive than a Nissan Livina and far more expensive than the larger, more decent Jianghuai Heyue RS.

 

[dragin]

Laofan is right; it's been around for a long time. Here's an old article from 2006 that differs drastically on price.
I'm guessing that Chang'an has addressed the quality problems that this author, and others, have pointed out.

http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/carreviews/firstdrives/203236/landwind_fashion.html#

As for Bijveld, you have to hand it to him, he doesn't give up easily. Something Chang'an must be glad about.

 

[daewoo-chevrolet]

The Dutch sister of the AutoBild group (AutoExpress is also a member of the AutoBild group), AutoWeek, was more positive about the Fashion/CV9: http://www.autoweek.nl/rijimpressie/617/Landwind-Fashion
Translated: http://translate.google.nl/translat...rijimpressie/617/Landwind-Fashion&sl=nl&tl=en

Price comparison based on the Dutch prices with its cheapest competitors:
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Fiat Doblò 1.4 16v 70 kW/95 hp from € 17.295
Landwind CV9 1.6 71 kW/97 hp from € 14.495
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