one things for sure, Malcolm is a smarter man than you areReal_I_Hate_China said:
I wonder if Malcolm ever saw Chery crash test videos....Wrong Turn: China Automaker Hits Roadblock
August 10, 2006
By Steve Miller
DETROIT -- Chinese automaker Geely will not import its CK sedan in the U.S., as it had promised to do, after the small car failed to meet safety and emissions standards here. Instead, the company will develop a new sedan with planned delivery for 2009, entering the North America market a year later than previously planned.
Geely sent 12 CK sedans, accompanied by a team of engineers, to the U.S. earlier this year for testing—and hoped-for approval—for market placement.
“These cars did pass on much of the criteria,” said Rick Zhang, project manager, Geely International Corp. in Shanghai, China. “But the model that we have wanted to put on the U.S. market, the CK sedan, may not be able to pass the standards.”
U.S. standards for safety and emissions are higher than many other countries, imposing higher costs on fledgling foreign automakers.
Geely, which showed the 7151 CK Geely sedan during the media preview at the North American International Auto Show in January, will instead develop a new car to enter the market here, Zhang said.
The plan is now to sell a midsized sedan rather than the $10,000 CK. Parts for the new model are “roughly” ready, Zhang said, “and now we are looking at where to assemble it.”
The move on the part of China’s government to bring Chinese-built autos to the U.S. has spurred furious development projects there and, in some cases, impediments such as Geely’s.
“Some of these [car companies] are going into the export markets without doing all of their homework,” said Ashvin Chotai, director of Asian automotive research at Boston-based Global Insight. “The CK was only launched in China last year and is one of Geely’s first self-developed products. They are trying to squeeze into five years what the Japanese did over 15 years, and they need to get to know the U.S. standards better. And to fail tests with a dozen vehicles is very much testing the waters.”
Geely had previously announced plans to hit the U.S. market in 2008, a highly anticipated foray from a country in which the hourly auto factory assembly pay averages $2 an hour compared to $60 for wages and benefits in the U.S., which would allow the companies to offer cheaper-priced cars than their American counterparts.
Several other Chinese automakers, including Great Wall Automobile Holding, Zhongxing Auto and Chery Automobile Co. have plans to bring their cars to the U.S., although their timelines, once set on 2007, are now changing, like Geely’s.
All are facing formidable U.S. bureaucracy as well as trepidation from domestic automakers, which are well aware of previous car invasions from Asia, including those from Japan and South Korea.
“I could have told you that Geely was not going to succeed in the crash tests,” said Malcolm Bricklin, the feisty U.S.-based auto entrepreneur who pledges to import cars made by Chery into the U.S. at the end of 2008. “Geely showed how inexperienced they are. They just took their cars here and put them through crash tests. The safety standards are so different here.”
one things for sure, Malcolm is a smarter man than you areReal_I_Hate_China said:I wonder if Malcolm ever saw Chery crash test videos....
He did, that’s why he is not importing those vehicles and is instead developing a new line just for North America. Malcolm is not working with Chery because he thinks they have a remarkable lineup (sarcasm), but is instead offering his experience as well as the experience of some of his knowledgeable associates to a young company that is starting to define its own policies. Furthermore, just like Subaru was backed by Fiji industries, he feels that Chery, as well as any other competent automotive manufacture will be backed by the Chinese government (meaning that the Chinese government is probably in control of any information coming out and will give stringent quality control so that they will not be humiliated internationally), who unlike Fiji Industries is not in for profit, but rather saving face for itself. I could be wrong, but I am quite certain that Paul Lambert, John Dinkel, William Vanden Heuvel, and the dealership network owners should not be stupid enough to follow a con man that is trying to sell the current lineup as BMW competitors.Real_I_Hate_China said:I wonder if Malcolm ever saw Chery crash test videos....
So you misunderstood the relationship between Malcolm Bricklin and Chery.Malcolm is not working with Chery because he thinks they have a remarkable lineup (sarcasm), but is instead offering his experience as well as the experience of some of his knowledgeable associates to a young company that is starting to define its own policies.
The communist central government is not involved in any of Chinese automakers. All Chinese automakers are essentially communist-style regional job programs funded by their respective city governments.as well as any other competent automotive manufacture will be backed by the Chinese government (meaning that the Chinese government is probably in control of any information coming out and will give stringent quality control so that they will not be humiliated internationally)
Well, one of dealers featured in the promotional video seem to be impressed by Son Of Orient, cough cough. Of course they have been had by Malcolm's impossible promises. Two million dollars flushed down the toliet each...I could be wrong, but I am quite certain that Paul Lambert, John Dinkel, William Vanden Heuvel, and the dealership network owners should not be stupid enough to follow a con man that is trying to sell the current lineup as BMW competitors.
So would you if you had seen one in real life. Maybe you ought to get off your butt and smell some fresh Shanghai air for a change. :thumb:Real_I_Hate_China said:Well, one of dealers featured in the promotional video seem to be impressed by Son Of Orient, cough cough.
Lets see, in the United States the state governments get a large percentage of there annual budget from the national government and the local government gets a large portion of there budget from the state governments, so in a more unnaturalized government with more of a command economy with a history of transferring money from all over the country in order to create spectacles in order to project an image of wealth and gone through significant lengths just to save face ( lets see covering up the break out od S.A.R.S, covering up the Tianan Men square massacre, and rejecting foreign relief after the Tang Shan earthquake), such as the current Chinese government, I am suppose to believe that the state is not funding the company that is trying to carry out there policy of establishing an automotive manufacturing base, because the company is listed as being owned by the local government. Furthermore, for someone who finds China corrupt and is angry at there military spending, it surprises me that you would even find Beijing's, Anhui province's, WuHu's, or even Chery's budget reports creditable.Real_I_Hate_China said:The communist central government is not involved in any of Chinese automakers. All Chinese automakers are essentially communist-style regional job programs funded by their respective city governments..
So if you are a business man who is best known for his failures in importing a Yugoslavian car and your own failed sports car line who is trying to get people to invest in your company, which is using a new sales strategy to sell vehicles manufactured by a company, who at the time is at least a generation away from being able to build vehicles at your desired specifications, you are going reveal the shortcomings of your pre prototype vehicles?Real_I_Hate_China said:Well, one of dealers featured in the promotional video seem to be impressed by Son Of Orient, cough cough. Of course they have been had by Malcolm's impossible promises. Two million dollars flushed down the toilet each...