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Thanks, Erik, for mentioning the M3. The news articles linked in the first post of 07-14-2015 contain info about that car. I am consciously refraining from writing about "elderly scooters" in this thread because I find them to be non-standard products.
 

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Well, Erik, I admit it is kind of an arbitrary and subjective segmentation, but I have these criteria in mind:

For 4/5-door cars:

1) Length < 3 m
2) Width < 1.4 m
3) Wheelbase < 2 m
4) Not usually identifiable with a unique manufacturer/origins unclear/different manufacturers claiming it to be their own car. i.e. commodification of the car. This is different from clear rebadges, where the OEM is identifiable (e.g. Scion iA made by Mazda)
5) Variability in specs, esp. dimensional specs, for the same vehicle, as reported by different manufacturers/sellers (lack of standards). Often same bodyshell with different front clips, rear lamps, door handles, etc. (cosmetic variability)

For 2/3-door cars, the length/wheelbase criteria will not be applicable, for instance, for Zhidou or Smart-like cars.

There are larger cars where the "commodification" criterion applies, like the numerous Benben Mini or Alto copies, but I would not consider them elderly scooters, but non-standard commodity cars.

Think of this situation as analogous to kit cars in the UK market. They are cars all right, but industry reports or analyses usually would not include them in any discussion about the "UK Auto Industry".

Some subjectivity is of course involved when deciding on the categorization of objects. It is not always strictly a technical discrimination. So, I hope you will excuse me for that.

Let us take the example of your own Chinese car Catalog. You have included MPVs, but you have not included the Maxus V80. Clearly, the SWB Low-roof Maxus V80 is similar in size, shape, and seating capacity to some of the MPVs included there, yet you chose to exclude it. Why? Is it because it is a van? If so, when does an MPV stop being an MPV and become a van? Or, in the case of pickups, why include the Dongfeng Hushi but not the Sokon K02?

Coming back to Byvin, in the case of the Byvin M3 (XiaoMai), I considered it a non-standard product because I have seen the same vehicle with different front ends, from other sellers as well, while browsing the various trade sites for LSEVs (ddc, taobao, baixing, alibaba/1688 etc.).

In the case of the M6, there is no ambiguity as a standard product since it is a rebadged Levdeo D50 and nothing else, attributable to a single manufacturer, Rainchst.

OK, this has been slightly rambling, so sorry for that. Apologies to readers not familiar with Erik's catalog (Please go ahead and get it, then! :))
 

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Olian (欧联) M1

Zhejiang Guangma Automobile, formerly Chaojie (see), introduced the Olian M1 mini EV which, according to the article, qualifies for subsidies.
One of the multitude of Smart copies in China, it however is well equipped with amenities such as ABS, EBD and an LCD infotainment display.
Top speed is 105 km/h, length 2.72 m, wheelbase 1.86.m. Motor specs are not given.

http://www.autohome.com.cn/news/201507/876975.html



Thanks to Erik of CMVDC for the tip!
 

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Suntae Qisheng (舜泰旗胜)

Interesting 5-door LSEV with Picanto looks, though not exactly a clone. Made by Zibo-based Shuntai Electric Vehicle Co., Ltd. Brand name is anglicized as SUNTAE. The company makes another 5-door hatch called Yizhe S8 (义者) plus a couple of micro-bubblecars.

Qisheng specs:

Dimensions: (L/W/H) 3220 x 1524 x 1580 mm; wheelbase 1950 mm
Unladen weight: 660 kg
Motor: 3-4 kW/60V
Max speed: 45 km/h
Claimed range: 80-150 km




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Company website: http://xn--vhqq56etqo3em.com/home.php
Other: http://nxtmarket.info/item/18966789838
 

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Dahe DH330 Zhixuan (致炫)

Beifang Dahe officially launched its self-developed car, the DH330 Zhixuan, for sale today:

http://news.ddc.net.cn/newsview_62830.html

Provisionally known as the 320 Fengguang (see an earlier post) during its development period, it had been exhibited at various EV shows and expos in the past several months.

Earlier reports on this car:

1. http://www.dahemotor.com/Html/NewsView.asp?ID=121&SortID=11
2. http://www.dahemotor.com/Html/NewsView.asp?ID=117&SortID=10
3. http://www.dahemotor.com/Html/NewsView.asp?ID=114&SortID=10
4. http://www.dahemotor.com/Html/NewsView.asp?ID=109&SortID=10
5. http://news.cnev.cn/Info_59894.html




 

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Dahe DH330 Zhixuan (致炫) (contd.)





Image sources: ddc.net.cn, dahemotor.com, 86dc.net

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Beifang Dahe sells another similar-sized hatchback, the DH310 Fengguang, which is an outsourced and rebadged "commodity" car also available from other manufacturers.

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Jinan fall EV show: T-King Oubao

The Shandong International Exhibition of New Energy and Energy Saving Vehicles was held in Jinan from 28-30 August 2015. This is the second EV show held this year in Jinan after the one in March.

In this and the following few posts, I am going to feature a few of the new and current LSEVs displayed at the show. Information is, however, sparse at the moment.
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T-King Oubao (欧宝):

We know T-King as a maker of trucks as well as the popular small LSEV Tianshi as well as for an EV version of the Haima Wangzi (Prince).

The Oubao measures 3000 x 1400 x 1540 mm (LxWxH), wheelbase 1930 mm. Weight is 715 kg. Motor 3 kW. Top speed 35 km/h.




 
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