[AXLE]

"He said AVL of Graz, Austria, which designs and tests engines for automakers including Mercedes, is designing engines for Bricklin -- a 290-horsepower 3.6-liter V-6, and a 4.8-liter 400-horsepower V-8. Chery will assemble the AVL engines in Wuhu."

http://www.indystar.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060605/BUSINESS/606050321

WOW! That sounds freaking competitive!!!!

 

[AXLE]

"Bricklin would not identify the transmission and all-wheel-drive makers but said the companies are well-established."

So all-wheel drive will be happening after all. I can't wait to see these cars!!!!!

 

[BringIt]

Wow those engines sounds awesome! It's confirmed that the automatic will be 6 speeds.

The specs do sound very impressive. I hope NVH and fuel economy, not to mention quality, reliability, and durability, are up to par with the competition.

 

[dragin]

cutting edge powertrains

Chery needs the six speed to compete in today's US market...

Anyway it seems that automatic transmissions are the last thing that a developing auto industry can manage to make on its own.

That technology is not easily gotten.

 

[DOS]

Wow those engines sounds awesome! It's confirmed that the automatic will be 6 speeds.

The specs do sound very impressive. I hope NVH and fuel economy, not to mention quality, reliability, and durability, are up to par with the competition.

I concur in regards to the power the engines produce, but horse power figures are irrelevant without knowing how much torque at what engine speed, not to mention reasonable fuel mileage, anyone can make a fuel guzzling screamer, but a good engine for daily commuting produces most of its power at lower RPM's.

 

[Admin]

i dont think its wise to build big engines.....because oil prices are always increasing and people are becoming more environment friendly...i think its not quite wise..to make a v8.400hp

 

[dragin]

Going for the top end

I agree Admin but in the plan of Bricklin, to quote him,

"We're not looking at selling the cheapest car in the market. We're looking at selling the cheapest in the top-end segment.''

And such words reflect his recently formed partnership with the owner of Miller Motorcars in upscale Greenwich outside of New York City.

 

[hazik]

I want a 400hp V8, you'll have the biggest engine on the highway. Unless someone else is driving a ferrari or lamborghini.

 

[AXLE]

I people still say that these cars are not gonna be accepted by the American public with these kinds of specs at these prices they are kidding themselves.

 

[Raul]

Amazing figures if true

290 hp from a V6 is a lot

 

[AXLE]

Look at the Nissan engine in the 350Z and Lexus IS350. Both of those cars have engines with around 300HP and both are V6s.

 

[DOS]

Amazing figures if true

290 hp from a V6 is a lot

Are you so sure? According to there own marketing strategy in the U.S. market cars like these would be the competition to the 3.6 and the 4.8:
http://autos.msn.com/research/compa...01307&v=t101824&v=t102191&v=t102210&v=t102240
http://autos.msn.com/research/compa...01525&v=t102022&v=t101342&v=t100538&v=t100623

I people still say that these cars are not gonna be accepted by the American public with these kinds of specs at these prices they are kidding themselves.

These stats might not be enough to actually be competitive in the U.S. market, with these engines, which probably will behave more like German power plants than Japanese, Chassis tuning from Lotus, and design from the Pinaffari, it is obvious that they are trying to depend on a huge splash, in order to enter the market, which can only be effective if the vehicle not only sets new standards for reliability and safety, but also wins all car of the year awards, not based on reliability, price, and warranty length. Remember, the competition is deeply entrenched within the U.S. market, meaning that the first generation of cars probably will be unprofitable, and highly crucial to the company’s survival.

 

[fightingtorque]

put me down for a V8 please. you know i need it.

 

[DOS]

put me down for a V8 please. you know i need it.

The V8 doesn't sound so impressive when you compare it to the one BMW is going to put into the new M3, but then again all we know about the Chery V8 at this point is it's maximum power output, which we are assuming has the same characteristics as the expected German power plant, excluding the screaming engines found in the M5, M6, and the new M3.

 

[fightingtorque]

i can tweak it........

 

[hazik]

The V8 doesn't sound so impressive when you compare it to the one BMW is going to put into the new M3, but then again all we know about the Chery V8 at this point is it's maximum power output, which we are assuming has the same characteristics as the expected German power plant, excluding the screaming engines found in the M5, M6, and the new M3.

390 hp V8 is crazy power, you'll win in a race against any car except ferrari or lambo.

 

[gr8]

figures are relatively irrelevant without knowing how much torque they produce

now thats fightingtorque...... lol
these cars are going to be awsome with this many power, as i said before chery is not running on cheep segment they are redefining the price of luxury. and i dont really agree on the fuel efficiency part because when these cars are $20 000 cheeper than the competition (lexus, bmw) etc it would take a while for gas to gobble up $20 000 by that time you probally got a brand new chery again. im more concern about the insurance, with such a large engine the insurance company would charge me at least $3000 per year. lol

 

[DOS]

390 hp V8 is crazy power, you'll win in a race against any car except ferrari or lambo.

I know, I said the engine was not impressive in comparison the new V8 BMW is putting into the M3, which is derived fro the V10 in the M5, which is based on there racing technology.

now thats fightingtorque...... lol
these cars are going to be awsome with this many power, as i said before chery is not running on cheep segment they are redefining the price of luxury. and i dont really agree on the fuel efficiency part because when these cars are $20 000 cheeper than the competition (lexus, bmw) etc it would take a while for gas to gobble up $20 000 by that time you probally got a brand new chery again. im more concern about the insurance, with such a large engine the insurance company would charge me at least $3000 per year. lol

Of course fuel economy is important, the current American consumer has become more aware of rising fuel prices, besides Chery needs every advantage they can find.

 

[proximal]

390 hp V8 is crazy power, you'll win in a race against any car except ferrari or lambo.

Not necessarily. There are plenty of cars with 400+ horsepower now. And even if the 390hp car were more powerful, there's still weight and gearing to consider.

 

[RCtennis3811]

I want a 400hp V8, you'll have the biggest engine on the highway. Unless someone else is driving a ferrari or lamborghini.

Welcome to America...