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unknown van seen Hangyong, I think Sonyon 82 (https://www.chinesecars.net/content/sonyon-82)

unknown bus 239 is made in Chongjin

solar power bus is developed in Namco

unindentified cabover is based on the Kamaz 55111, it is either a Taepaeksan or a Chaju (?). Seen in 1987 magazine 'Korea'.

Question: as you have here a number of Russian language j.v. advertisements, does it mean that the Northkoreans aim at the Russian market? We had these jv's a couple of years ago, but I never see any product in the North Korean streets. Do they function??
 

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The problem, DMitra, is that you have the system, and you have the way they do it.
North Koreans write in English-language articles about factory visits:
Kim Jong Il, Dec. 17 1998, by KCNA: Sungri
Kim Jong Il, March 18 2009, by Naenara News: Sungni
Kim Jong Un, Nov. 21 2017, by Rodong Sinmun: Sungri
And in advertisements by KMEC: Sungri
In the Korea Times of Jan. 29 2004: Sungri.
 

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unknown van seen Hangyong, I think Sonyon 82 (https://www.chinesecars.net/content/sonyon-82)
It was the first one that popped up in mind, it does look similar but different grill and indicators.

unknown bus 239 is made in Chongjin
Thanks, updating. :)

solar power bus is developed in Namco
I assume it's Nampo. It was in the first image description, now included in all the descriptions, thank you.

unindentified cabover is based on the Kamaz 55111, it is either a Taepaeksan or a Chaju (?). Seen in 1987 magazine 'Korea'.
The load bed looked MAZ to me but I didn't know where else to look.



Kamaz seems possible if so.

Question: as you have here a number of Russian language j.v. advertisements, does it mean that the Northkoreans aim at the Russian market? We had these jv's a couple of years ago, but I never see any product in the North Korean streets. Do they function??
No, I don't think so. Some of those old articles are from the Soviet times I found on Russian websites and some are just Foreign Trade magazines that were archived. Those were translated in a bunch of languages, Korean, French, Spanish, Russian, Chinese, Japanese and Arabic, but they keep disappearing so the only few old ones that still work or have been archived somewhere on the net.

Kegare, why do you say Sungni while the North Koreans say Sungri?
That looks like an export brochure. The local Pyongyang Times which I read the most always called it 'Sungni'. I have chosen the one as I have seen and read it the most.

http://www.pyongyangtimes.com.kp/?bbs=25623

'The Kumsong Tractor Factory, Sungni Motor Complex and Chungsong-brand Tractor Factory have unveiled new types of tractors and lorries.'

'Amidst the playing of The Song of Advance of Socialism, Chollima-804 tractors, Sungni lorries and Chungsong-122 tractors left the square with roars of engine. '

'Hundreds of Chollima-804 tractors, Sungni lorries and Chungsong-122 tractors filled the spacious square. '

http://www.pyongyangtimes.com.kp/?bbs=25680

'The Central Committee of the Workers’ Party of Korea sent a congratulatory message to the workers, technicians and officials of the Kumsong Tractor Factory, Sungni Motor Complex and Chungsong Tractor Factory in recognition of their implementation of the production tasks for new types of vehicles. '

'Chollima-804 tractors, Sungni lorries and Chungsong-122 tractors which are injecting new impetus into the socialist fields are an outcome of the indomitable spiritual strength and inexhaustible power of the heroic Kim Il Sung and Kim Jong Il working class and they are also the laudable creations showcasing the enormous capacity of the self-reliant national economy, the message said. '

http://www.pyongyangtimes.com.kp/?bbs=23889

'Premier Pak Pong Ju has made a survey trip to the Sungni Motor Complex. '

http://www.korean-books.com.kp/KBMbooks/en/book/politics/4040.pdf




I have only seen one local north Korean website calling it Sungri:

Respected Supreme Leader Kim Jong Un gave field guidance to the Sungri Motor Complex which successfully carried out the task for producing new style trucks given by the Workers’ Party of Korea(WPK) by displaying the revolutionary spirit of self-reliance.

http://www.mfa.gov.kp/en/visit-of-sungri-motor-complex/


Transliterating 승리 into McCune–Reischauer results in = Sŭngni unless it's a personal name, then it's Sŭngri.
http://roman.cs.pusan.ac.kr/eng_result_all.aspx?input=승리

I don't know any more about this, I just know north Korea uses a variant of McCune-Reischauer, Gag once mentioned it. The export target seen in brochures might differ in language to be more universally compatible?

The weird thing about it is that on local websites the 리 in Chollima 천리마 is always 'li', yet the 리 in Sungri 승리 is either 'ri' or 'ni'.
 

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Chongjin Bus Works made a wierd range of buses which are riding at present in Chongjin, North Korea: numbers 222-255. Each bus has its own design.
I will try to introduce them to you.
Here you find:
222
223
 

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Probably because of this?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Revised_Romanization_of_Korean#Special_provisions

See intersection of row "ng" and column "r".

OR

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/McCune%E2%80%93Reischauer#Consonants


See intersection of row "ng" and column "(r)".
Erik , another way of putting it is that:

"Sungni" represents the sound of the two syllables when co-joined, and spoken.

and..

"Sungri" represents the sound of the two syllables when they are read, and then spoken, independent of each other. For example: Sung and then ri. Expressed like this, the vehicle name would not be understood during normal speech.
 

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Hello @kegare,

Please go to Google Maps and search for "Pyeonghwa Motors General Corp". When the map opens, click on "22 Photos" in the left pane, and you can see a series of large pictures in the right pane. Some of them contain pretty clear pictures of products being either offered or evaluated by Pyeonghwa. All of the products are old models which are no longer made in China (and I doubt panels are still being stamped by the Chinese OEMs for so few units), so I believe these are reconditioned vehicles (they look new) that have been sent over from China with refurbished parts, repainted panels etc. with perhaps some minimal re-assembly at PMC (switches, wires, tires, interior trim/upholstery). You can isolate the large pictures using Chrome's "Inspect" (F12) feature.

From what I have seen of PMC-branded vehicles, it appears that the Ppeokkugi 2405 is their most prolific model -- they are everywhere!

The map location was forwarded to me by Erik about two months ago, so I thank him (again) for it.
 

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Thanks for the tip, dmitra but I'm having no luck finding that location anywhere on Google Maps, has it been taken down? Do you happen to have a direct link to it?
 
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