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Hey erik! Some issues with Chinacarhistory? If I click on a subject I get this error:

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Interesting thing. I managed to find a less blurry pic, while the logo looks a lot like Nanjing Zhongda Jinling it has softer refined edges of the outline which leads to Chollima logo rather. Never struck me how similar these two are.

Compare:





http://www.tongilnews.com/news/articleView.html?idxno=131025

From the beginning of 2020, the newly developed two-story bus and new tram were operating in Pyongyang city, according to the Rodong Sinmun News.

The double-decker bus was built by the Capital Passenger Transportation Bureau, which developed and operated the new tram and trolleybus in 2018, and began to operate on the Pyongyang Station and Pond-dong lines from April 4, the newspaper said.

New types of trams made with their own technology last year have been running the Mangyongdae-Pyongyang station since the 4th, along with the trams that have been running for two years.

The newspaper announced that the new double-decker bus is "a nicely painted bus, but it's better because our bus embodies the needs of convenience and aesthetics."

The bus was equipped with a hot air fan, a signboard that informs the origin and destination of the inside and outside, a surveillance camera, and a liquid crystal television.

The bus, which can carry 70 passengers, is free from vibration, noise and speed, and the bus stairs are not high, making it easy for the elderly and children to climb up and down.

The newspaper said, "It's easy to see the new double-decker buses going in and out of the city, and everyone in the city is impressed." The reality is that it encourages piety and optimism in every heart. "
BUT the rims are the exact same as the older Jinlings North Korea had in use:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/jakaparker/19885889273

the upper deck looks rather cramped.
It looks terribly claustrophobic. But I guess that seeing more of the outside world is less of a priority than fitting more people inside. ;)
Plus the fact that the very thick A pillars add a lot to the blind spot and the little fog lights look insufficient.


Headlights appear to be from Sinotruk:




How did they figure the model name of that trolleybus, I wonder?

The DPRK released a stamp 3 days ago showing next to that logo just '무궤도전차' (trolleybus) and in the lower left corner '조선우표' (Korea stamp). Yes, the logo shows a flying horse which implies Chollima but I've never seen a NK source that shows that as a brand name for this trolley, let alone the model name for it and I've researched it extensively. All the local websites give '평양무궤도전차공장을' (Pyongyang Trolleybus Factory) as a name of the factory and a generic 'trolleybus' as a description of the product. Curious.

https://i.imgur.com/583geD2.png
 

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it is the Russians who came up with the 321 model name: https://transphoto.org/photo/1131596/?vid=473339
And they seem to have good contacts with the factory.
Erik, that was the first page I checked and I don't see anyone commenting on the 321 model or confirming it, or anyone implying having any relation to the factory that produced these trolleys, hence my question is still valid.
 

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A new pic of the double decker appeared on a local website.


http://www.pyongyangtimes.com.kp/?bbs=32967
Visitors can see new-type trolley-buses and tramcars running along the streets of Pyongyang.

In recent years more than 100 trolley-buses and many tramcars have been produced in a serial way.

Not only their forms and structures but also their performance and quality of fittings have been improved by far as compared to previously.

Subway trains have also been newly developed and they are running along the Pulgunbyol-Puhung line.


It looks like they either reverse engineered or restyled an old Jinling in their own way. Chassis is the same and check out the general look, front and rear overhang.

Pic 1: https://c8.alamy.com/comp/M0TX2C/do...gan-province-pyongyang-north-korea-M0TX2C.jpg
Pic 2: https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipe...TY_DPRK_NORTH_KOREA_OCT_2012_(8647578775).jpg

Erik, do you happen to know if Jinling is still even in business? They don't even seem to have a website.
 

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Yesterday's news includes:


Trolley buses of 70s still operative, inspirational



It is not uncommon to see some 20th-century trolley buses in the streets of Pyongyang, though they are distinguishable from modern-day ones in terms of colour and shape.

They are Chollima-70 trolley buses, the first of its kind produced in the DPRK in the 1970s.

The sides of them are dotted with red stars with the letters “fifty thousand”, which indicates the distance they ran without accident in kilometre.

“We are very proud of the stars,” said Kim Myong Gil, a driver who runs the West Pyongyang-Pyongyang Railway Station course. “In actuality, the total distances of their accident-free run are enough to cover their whole surfaces with red stars.”

Myong Gil’s trolley bus with the license plate number “819” was personally visited by President Kim Il Sung on April 8 1972 as he paid much attention to solving the traffic problem of the capital city.

Though it has been running for decades, the trolley bus still preserves its original looks and capacity.

The glittering paint, neat fittings, glossy handle among others reflect the driver’s affection and devotion to his vehicle.

“I feel relieved every time I get on the trolley bus, which I took to and from work for over 30 years. It also reminds me of my childhood when I would visit my father’s workplace which was bubbling with the Chollima movement. Such a memory makes me harden the resolve to be faithful to my work as those of my father’s generation was,” said An Son Yong living in Tonghung-dong, Central District, Pyongyang.
http://www.pyongyangtimes.com.kp/?bbs=33048


Erik, here's a dilemma: This pic in your entry - https://www.chinesecars.net/content/kwangboksonyon and also mine, here, which I've named after your page: https://www.imcdb.org/v001138724.html The front says 천리마 (Chollima) instead of 광복소년 (Kwangboksonyŏn). Yet on the side of your trolley it says 광복소년호 (Kwangboksonyŏn-ho), so there's clearly a connection. Was 'Chollima' the brand name and 'Kwangboksonyon' the model name on these?

The North Korean stamp which I've posted before shows the name as 광복소년호 (Kwangboksonyŏn-ho) in the upper left corner but it's interesting to notice that this is pictured simply an articulated bus and not a trolleybus. And there is no badging on the front and the grille looks different or placed higher on the stamp vehicle. Or is the stamp just innacurate? I don't really get it.

 
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