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8810 Views 13 Replies 5 Participants Last post by  erik (laofan), cmvdc
I found it on Flickr, the photograph took the shot in a museum in Shanghai.

Anybody know what it is?

(Anybody apart from Erik, of course, because I'm sure he got the answer;) )

Thank you.

"Joest" Jonathan.


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you want me to answer or shall I wait some days?
Is it an old Shanghai model from SAIC?
This definitely looks like a Shanghai (SAIC) and since it comes from a museum located in Shanghai...

But the colour seems strange to me. Is it an after-market paint?

Erik, give me the solution!
That paint color makes the car look like a 50's Desoto, Rambler, etc. from Detroit. Whoever came up with a color like that? Makes the car it's on look like an appliance car. Yikes.
fenghuang (phoenix)

From 1958 on, the first Shanghai cars were all some kind of soap green color. Many things in China were painted in this color -even in the early 1980s- (like other consumergoods, hotel rooms etc.)
This car is a strange looking replica (I am about 95% certain) of the Fenghuang, the predecessor of the Shanghai SH 760. This replica is built on a Wolga M21 as basis.
It is possible that the car is a unique prototype. But I doubt it.
SAIC has another replica of the same car, in their headquarters in Shanghai.
All these cars are described in my document: "Shanghai, saloons from the artisan era." (see
Joest Jonathan, do you know in which museum this model is exhibited??
Thanks for the explanation, Erik. As usual, I learnt a lot.

I don't know where it comes from. The picture only said "taken in a museum in Shanghai". There is no other view of the car.
fenghuang replica

here are two other pictures of the same car.


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Here's an other one, again found on Flickr. It only says "Beijing old chinese car".

Is it really an oldtimer or just a car made with a modern chassis and a retro-style body?


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Hello Joest Jonathan,
Never seen this thing. I agree with your second idea: a modern chassis and a home made old timer. There were more of these vehicles, sometimes at auctions, but also since the 1980s in the film industry. (In a country were all cars were destructed at 15 year of age there is not much antique left...)
Hello Erik,

It's always a pleasure to hear your opinion.

About the soap green Shanghai replica; underneath the television tower (Oriental Pearl Tower) in Pudong there is an interesting museum describing the history of Shanghai. There in the cellars are some car replica's (you don't understand why they make these replica's as restoring some old would have been easier and cheaper...). there are one 1910-1920 replica, two 1930s replicas, and an original postwar Buick Eight and Willys Jeep.
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