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If an engine is DESIGNED to output power @ HIGH rpm, and it does, then what is the problem? I can only say that the engine can operate per or in accordance with its design specs.

I failed to see any strong performance correlations between automobiles in a race since their true performance are subject to numerous uncontrollable and/or unpredictable factors.

An automobile's true performance and characteristics should only be evaluated in a highly controlled environment aimed to eliminate or minimize uncontrollable factors.


Long story short, I know an engineer who was driving a rental 911 in Germany and got overtook by a VW on the autobahn. Therefore, his conclusion was: Porche 911 sucks.

After I heard his statement on that. I then quickly lost respect for his as an engineer.

Just thing about it, he might be just cruising in his rental 911, while a VW red lining the engine with the 4th gear overtook him on the autobahn concludes that an 911's inferior to a VW? Give me a break.

FYI: you video link does not work for me, please verify subject link.
 

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mg-zs said:
Answer1)
I think with a engine swap its deffo possible.
Not sure if there is a kit for it.
But if there is one it will cost you money.

Answer2)
Everything is possible.
You have to customise the dash your self.
There are people that have done it.

thanks for your reply, but they are far from being practical and constructive.
 

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mikoyan said:
If an engine is DESIGNED to output power @ HIGH rpm, and it does, then what is the problem? I can only say that the engine can operate per or in accordance with its design specs.
There is no problem, but you started off by saying it was a "superior Toyota engine" which is somewhat questionable. You shouldn't judge an engine purely by its peak power output, especially when it has a very narrow torque band (thus needing the 6 gears).

As for your decription "outdated Rover K-series piece-of-crap. :D ", the current version called the MG N-Series engine, and it's currently getting some good reviews.

mikoyan said:
FYI: you video link does not work for me, please verify subject link.
http://videos.streetfire.net/video/62a6456d-05e6-466e-af5f-99cc00d03c2d.htm

Not sure why the video would not work, it appears fine here.

Yes, obviously the Porche is the faster car, but on a typical British racetrack with typical British weather, for some reason two MGs costing around £16,000 new are lapping faster. I think he is trying, the back end is looking a little twitchy at times. The Ferrari obviously isn't trying, a little damp and it's too risky to drive a car like that quickly. The Lotuses etc, well judge for yourself and once you have seen the video, which is the most enjoyable car to drive?
 

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Yes, obviously the Porche is the faster car, but on a typical British racetrack with typical British weather, for some reason two MGs costing around £16,000 new are lapping faster.
All that video clip showed was yet another MG driver with a severe identity crisis - in other words trying to prove their car is not as crap as everyone thinks it is.

You get them all the time, and when these alleged 'MGs' overtake something, even if the other car is nowhere near full chat, they probably go on to claim the MG is faster - when in actual fact nobody cares or is interested - one of the many reasons Longbridge shut.

The Porsche driver quite correctly allowed a pass as they probably didn't want their car rear ended by a rebadged Honda Civic! :rolleyes:
 

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We were given the option of the Toyota engine once it had been fitted for yourselves, but it weighs more, which rather goes against the design aims of the Elise, and needs to be taken to very high revs to get the extra power, at normal revs the Rover engine produced more and even for track use, a lot of people prefered it.

The Rover engine in the Lotus Elise was the same engine used in the MG TF although more recently the Elise has only had the lower power versions available.

8 months for two sets of tyres - just shows how much fun he was having on the race tracks! :lol:

As for driving it all summer long, you can use an MG TF all year long, just be careful where you park it:


LOL i love this pic haha..how do u know its a MG:confused:
 

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All that video clip showed was yet another MG driver with a severe identity crisis - in other words trying to prove their car is not as crap as everyone thinks it is.

You get them all the time, and when these alleged 'MGs' overtake something, even if the other car is nowhere near full chat, they probably go on to claim the MG is faster - when in actual fact nobody cares or is interested - one of the many reasons Longbridge shut.

The Porsche driver quite correctly allowed a pass as they probably didn't want their car rear ended by a rebadged Honda Civic! :rolleyes:
puppetland you knobhead ,that is my video with me driving and you have no idea what your on about.

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Tired of waiting and bored with my supercharged Miata now..

I bought an E46 M3 (2005)...:D :thumb:
 

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Puppetland said:
Why would you want to downgrade to a MG?

In the UK, the MGF & MG TF were widely regarded as a distant second best to the Mazda MX5. The British built car also had appalling build quality as well as costly engine reliability issues.
Yes i got the same question ????? :confused:
 

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Yes i got the same question ????? :confused:
yeah, since then, my taste has changed quite a bit... partially due to the MG TF's delay in the North American market..

Before, I quickly got bored with the supercharged miata LS (6MT also, mind you), and wanted a MG TF as a more exotic replacement... well, that wont happen for a while...

I now drive an 05 E46 M3, perhaps I'll upgrade to an E92 M3 sometime next year..

as for roadsters, I now want to bet on the Z2 when (if) it comes out a few years later...
I test drove the new Z4, it was great by I think it's way over priced for what it is.. bottom line: not my cup of tea..
 
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