Foreign brand cars manufactured in China are OK, Chinese brand cars are to be avoided at all cost.umax said:Could you tell me your opinion about the quality of other Chinese cars (or manufacturers)?
It depends on which "Korean" car you are talking about. Hyundais regularly beat Toyotas in quality surveys, while the rest of bunch(GM Daewoo and Ssangyong) do not perform. Even so, the worst Korean car has better quality than the best Chinese-brand car.Is there any Chinese manufacturer making cars with a quality close to Korean cars?
Best : Japanese brand cars manufactured in China.Which are the best/the worst manufactured models?
Guessing what Chinese cars of 2007 are like isn't too hard; just fast forward to mid 80s and recall Hyundai Excels and Dodge Colts. Never seen a Chinese car, but I fully understand what they are like.jmsteiny said:umax, PLEASE keep in mind that our fellow poster RIHC is a true "expert" when it comes to chinese cars - which is pretty amazing considering the fact that he has NEVER EVEN BEEN TO CHINA!!!!!!
They don't understand what a driver in a developed market wants, and see that Chinese brand cars are decades behind global brand cars in terms of quality, safety and performance.Members here like fightingtorque, chinacartimes and a few others are people you should listen to..........
Chinese brand cars of 2007 are comparable to Japanese cars of late 80s, Chery included. I won't even say 90s because in early 90s you already had cars like 1993 Toyota Camry which is still beyond Chinese cars of 2007.they are BY NO MEANS bad cars!!
But I had seen plenty of those and was in a friend's old Excel once in my high school days.jmsteiny said:have you ever driven one of those?
So, you can tell that Korean cars of the 80s are as good as Chinese cars of today because...Real_I_Hate_China said:But I had seen plenty of those and was in a friend's old Excel once in my high school days.
The only difference is that particular Korean luxury car is on the US road and you probably had seen it before, and might have taken a ride already. So you know that Korean luxury car is nothing like that 88 Mercedes, unless it happens to be a Ssangyong that rides on a 1982 S-class chassis.Well, my grandma had a 1988 Mercedes-Benz, which I rode in a few times. And just the other day, I saw a Korean luxury car on a TV soap opera (the wife loves those Korean soaps). And to be honest, I couldn't see much of a difference between them.
Since both Chery(QQ and Son of Orient) and Geely ride on old Daewoo chassis from the 90s, it isn't hard to figure out how Chery and Geely drives, since all the Daewoos on which Chery and Geely are based on were for sale in the US in the late 90s and you can still see examples in town.How daft does that comment sound? Much the same as yours.
Thank you all.jmsteiny said:umax, PLEASE keep in mind that our fellow poster RIHC is a true "expert" when it comes to chinese cars - which is pretty amazing considering the fact that he has NEVER EVEN BEEN TO CHINA!!!!!! He has never seen, sat in, or driven ANY CHINESE CAR AT ALL. Remember this as you read his posts, ok?
Members here like fightingtorque, chinacartimes and a few others are people you should listen to..........they have either lived here (or are currently living here) and have first hand experience. I also live here (in Nanning) and I also have posted from time to time my personal experiences with chinese cars. People like RIHC are welcome to post their opinions of course.........and many times RIHC makes some very valid and informed points of view. HOWEVER, when he posts a statement like "chinese cars are to be avoided at all costs", that is simply INACCURATE and INSULTING. While chinese cars are not superior to any of the imports or chinese-built foreign cars, they are BY NO MEANS bad cars!! They are improving VERY quickly, and in a few years they WILL be comparable in terms of quality to most of the imported cars being sold in China.
Anyway, WELCOME to chinacarforums, umax - enjoy your time here!!!