[spharma24]

will chines care makers be able to extend their market overseas as the big 3 are in trouble

 

[crazy_awper]

Merry Christmas every one,and good luck to all of you!

 

[stilo]

will chines care makers be able to extend their market overseas as the big 3 are in trouble

I bet that the demise of Chrysler will offer many opportunities for chinese car manufacturers. Cerberus axed eight models since buying Chysler. They introduced no new car since then. Now they have even stopped producing the PT Cruiser. So there are lots of proctions lines avaliable right now. As you may have mentioned, Zotye bought the rights to produce old Fiat models, since there was no need for these prodiction lines in Italy anymore. Maybe the financial crises will also seal Ssangyyongs fate. We´ll see...

 

[BigFatGuy]

^Agree.
The only way I see this benefiting the Chinese is if they buy Chryslerberus. I'm betting Chrysler will be parted out this year, and if a Chinese company buys some of the pieces (i'm thinking Jeep & Chrysler, dump Dodge), they would have factories, parts, dealers, established labor pool and more to help them get started. Then just tag on BYD, CHerry, or whoever to the dealerships and you have instant cred & advertising. They could position the Chinese cars to compete with Ford & Chevy, while the rebadged cars would be called Chrysler to compete with Cadillac, Lincoln & the like. Chinese designed cars could be built here in the existing factories with some existing pasts "cross platforming" from their current vehicles. Update and rebadge a Chrysler Sebring as a BYD e10 and you have a Chinese car that will sell in the states.
Seems like an easy way into North America, eh?

 

[Rally Red Lancer GTS]

The only thing is is the Chrysler/Dodge cars aren't selling in the U.S. as they are right now...why would you think they'd suddenly start selling owned as BYD or Chery? The market is down... maybe if they dropped prices remarkably and re-badged them and gave that a try?

 

[spishak]

Currently Chinese Cars are failing the safety tests and are far from American Standards.

 

[BigFatGuy]

The only thing is is the Chrysler/Dodge cars aren't selling in the U.S. as they are right now...why would you think they'd suddenly start selling owned as BYD or Chery? The market is down... maybe if they dropped prices remarkably and re-badged them and gave that a try?

That isn't entirely Cerberus' fault. As mentioned in another thread, everyone is down right now. IF they fixed the management (takeover) & labor (bankruptcy) problems, they could be profitable.

Currently Chinese Cars are failing the safety tests and are far from American Standards.

That's why rebadging existing cars makes sense. They already pass crass/emission standards.

 

[Rally Red Lancer GTS]

And the latest news is Fiat is talking merger with Chrysler, that no doubt being the Cerberus-less Chrysler, Cerberus will sell it's interest in Chrysler in the merge. That's not official, though, but it's being bantered about on the car news lists today.

 

[ezraxenon]

maybe I guess,despite what happen they can still get their targeted market.

 

[nubironaSW]

And the latest news is Fiat is talking merger with Chrysler, that no doubt being the Cerberus-less Chrysler, Cerberus will sell it's interest in Chrysler in the merge. That's not official, though, but it's being bantered about on the car news lists today.

Only in April it will be real, now ther is the interest for buying 35% with a second tranche to 55%.

But the rumors say italian and american are just working on the models.