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XiaoPeng Identy X (HMA7000S60BEV)

Pics of production version, to be called Identy X, released by MIIT. The company is investing in a new factory in Zhaoqing, Guangdong, however till the time it is completed and an EV production approval for the project is granted by NDRC, the Identy X will be made in cooperation with Haima at the latter's plant in Zhengzhou, Henan. As can be seen, the car itself has been type-approved by NDRC though.



http://data.miit.gov.cn/viewCar?carId=44944
http://www.autohome.com.cn/news/201707/904612.html
 

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XPeng Identy X

The first 15 examples of the Identy X, dubbed "Version 1.0", have been produced at Haima's Zhengzhou facility. These 15 are essentially "test" production examples that is required as one of the many conditions for EV project approval, which XPeng Motors is pursuing for its own Zhaoqing factory.

"Version 1.0" cars are intended to be driven by selected "beta" users among the public. At least 100 "Version 1.0" cars will be made, and experience/feedback gained from these pioneering "guinea-pig" drivers will be incorporated into "Version 2.0". As a physical product, Versions 1.0 and 2.0 are not expected to be different, but certainly some technical/software upgrades can be expected in Version 2.0. Thereafter, Version 2.0 will be made available for wider public consumption.

The Identy X comes with the usual "connectivity" features, a 12-inch screen, some autonomous/remote capabilities (slow traffic following, remote park and recall), and a 360-degree camera on the rooftop.

http://info.xcar.com.cn/201710/news_1988146_1.html




 

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Re: XiaoPeng Identy X (HMA7000S60BEV)

"..till....approval for the project is granted by NDRC,..."

So perhaps Xiaopeng will be number sixteen to receive the coveted license to produce NEVs.
Or, will it piggyback on the license of FAW Haima?
Haima itself needs a morale boost about now since, like FAW Xiali, its sales are falling off.
Let's see how the latest FAW restructuring will affect these two struggling subsidiaries.
 

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Well, Xiaopeng, Guojin, Chehejia -- a lot of them are waiting for EV project approval though Xiaopeng and Guojin are ahead in some respects. Guojin's own plant is ready, Xiaopeng has the 15+ test vehicles (in production guise), so probably it is a question of time. Xiaopeng's contract with Haima is for up to 50,000 vehicles per year, so they will do that at least till the time necessary to ramp up and stabilize their own production processes, obviously after they get the approval.
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On one hand, the thing I find puzzling about the current Chinese auto industry is that whenever there is news of a new company getting into making cars (LSEV, NEV whatever), the media always mention a "production base" that is coming up in that context. On the other hand, perusing production stats, most local manufacturers (barring some large foreign JVs) nowadays seem to be producing far below their installed capacities, sometimes only a few dozen vehicles per month. I wonder why these capacities are not better utilized by teaming up with newcomers, since that would reduce the complexity for the latter of hunting for a license (it can be done at leisure once your contract program is up) and much of the machinery (model-specific tooling aside) is already installed. Of course, sometimes a new manufacturer may like some control over its production processes, costs, and quality, so may not be comfortable with a contracting partner, but otherwise it looks like a win-win situation. Is it the lure of handsome incentives from local governments that causes new auto producers to always insist on setting up a "base"? Running a "base" involves costs too, even if it is not producing anything. Is it to draw financial investors to the table?
 

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XPeng G3

At the CES 2018 exhibition in Las Vegas, XPeng showed the G3, reportedly the "version 2.0" of the Identy X unveiled in October '17. Extensive changes have indeed been made to the car, with the front and rear ends now completely redesigned. Overall it looks more streamlined as well.

Lots of gadgets have been incorporated (since it was shown at CES after all). See articles for details. Any changes to specs were not announced.





http://auto.sina.com.cn/jishu/2018-01-10/detail-ifyqnick0973643.shtml
http://info.xcar.com.cn/201801/news_1996503_1.html
 

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XPeng Identy X

Stats reveal that 184 Xpeng vehicles have been delivered this year up to May and these are described as G3; however, the G3 has not yet been type- approved for sale, only the Identy X has been.

Recent pics from the forums show the Identy X on the streets or being delivered to batches of owners. People booking the G3 are now being allotted serial nos. and reservation codes. Moreover, examples of the G3 are now being displayed at places like universities and music festivals to attract youngsters.





Pics from the XPeng G3 subforum
 

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......... On one hand, the thing I find puzzling about the current Chinese auto industry is that whenever there is news of a new company getting into making cars (LSEV, NEV whatever), the media always mention a "production base" that is coming up in that context. On the other hand, perusing production stats, most local manufacturers (barring some large foreign JVs) nowadays seem to be producing far below their installed capacities, sometimes only a few dozen vehicles per month. I wonder why these capacities are not better utilized by teaming up with newcomers, since that would reduce the complexity for the latter of hunting for a license (it can be done at leisure once your contract program is up) and much of the machinery (model-specific tooling aside) is already installed.....
In an article recently published in the newspaper "Frankfurter Allgemeine Zeitung", we read that Li Shufu seems to agree with the "teaming up" that you suggest D Mitra.

http://www.xinhuanet.com/english/2018-04/16/c_137115594.htm

Years ago I remember wondering myself why the light truck makers in the town of Baoding, never chose to collaborate for the benefits that it can bring. Finally the smaller competitors of Great Wall Auto: Zhongxing, Tianma, Dadi, Xinkai have almost all faded into the sunset. It seems that at this stage of the industry's development, Chinese carmakers don't see any advantage in such cooperation as it might reduce the spoils, of subsidies, etc..
 

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