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Well, everybody else making minivan is fine, replicating somebody else's design is not.
Too bad that arguement wouldn't hold in non-Chinese courts.
Yet another case of Chinese auto piracy
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Nanjing too is an auto pirate; Rover 25, Rover 75, and K-series engine, cough cough.They should all learn from Nanjing who seem to be the most 'proper' company of the lot.
Only three Chinese brand companies are playing by international standards.
SAIC : Aside from the Roewe brand(which is technically not illegal, because it does sound different and badge design is also significantly different from Rover's), SAIC is pretty clean on IP issues.
Geely : You can laugh at Geely all you want, but at least Geely designs are not straight replicas like its competitors; Geely does its own derivative work on old Daewoo chassises and pays for them.
Brilliance Zhonghua : While their designs resemble BMWs, the chassis and styling are their own and 100% legal. This is the role model that other Chinese companies should look up to.
Chinese must understand the difference between "Being Inspired By" and "A Straight Replica"; the former is legal by international law; the latter one is not.
Nanjing didn't pay for Rover25, 75, and K-series IP. The administrators could not sell what they didn't own.So Nanjing paid 53 millions for all those assets from MG-Rover still makes them a pirate?
When you build cars whose IP you don't own.How does that work?
ZS is out of question since this is really Honda Civic.Nanjing can base their cars on the MG ZR, ZS and the ZT
What Nanjing bought :
- MG Brand
- Longbridge machinery
- MG ZF IP
Why SAIC isn't sueing.
- SAIC did threaten to sue, but Nanjing went to Chinese community party for a "mediation" and Chinese communist party's order silenced SAIC.
- But Nanjing is still an automotive pirate under the international practive; it is Chinese communist party that is preventing an all out lawsuit war.
No, they did not. Only Chinese pirates.And besides, copying other cars has been a proven method for developing countries to catch up to developed ones. Japan did it, Korea did it.
There is no developed nation with a weak legal enforcement and moral corruption. Which will tell you that China won't become a developed nation.The only reasons why piracy thrives in China is because of weak legal enforcement and a lower level of development. It has nothing to do with morality.
Economically large, yes. But GDP/Capita will remain well below that of developed nations.
China as a country may have the money, but most of its citizens will still live in poverty.I said China is not a developed nation now, but it will be soon.
The day Chery stops producing all of its replica cars under a court order is the day China's legal system becomes credible.China's legal system is improving.
I said moral corruption, not financial corruption.there is no developed country with no corruption.
Well then can Chinese citizens vote for parties other than the communist party?China today is not a Communist system, it is a soft authoritarian system with a market economy.
Those countries observed basic human rights even under dictators(with the exception of Japan which didn't have a dictator after WW2) and had a multi-party political system. China doesn't.Just like how Japan, S. Korea, Taiwan developed, China is under the same conditions.
They HAD a limited form of democracy from the beginning since their citizens could choose to vote for parties other than the ruling party and voice their criticism.Where was democracy when all these Asian countries were developing, huh?
Nobody calls China a democracy.Theoretically, Communism is supposed to be the ultimate form of democracy.
It is not a capitalist system. If it were, then foreign companies wouldn't need to set up joint ventures with state-owned Chinese firms to gain a market access.While one can also be a dictatorship and run an laissez faire capitalist system.
Even Koumintang in its worst days looked far far more democratic than the communist party. And Jiminto was never an authoritarian government, merely a majority.The moron here obviously is not versed in the economic development history of other East Asian nations like Japan, S. Korea and Taiwan which all became developed under the combination of a authoritarian
Then where are the other Chinese parties that voters could vote for, like The Free Tibet Party, Koumintang(At least these guys were democratic unlike the commies), The Falun Gong Party, all the other 55 minority parties who want to break away from China, etc?China is communist in name only. China is more capitalist than most capitalist countries. China has a million millionaires and people don't get paid the same amount of money regardless of what they do.
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Not just politicians, but the population as whole.If you think politicians in the US, Japan or S. Korea are not morally corrupt, then you are even dumber than I first thought.
Why do counterfeit goods, including automobiles, flourish in China? Because Chines people as whole do not feel guilty about ripping off other people's intellectual work.
Not the same level of totalitarianism as China is. All these countries had a multi-party political system and real elections, and even so-called dictators were forced to negotiate with the opposition.how Japan, S. Korea and Taiwan was during their development.
There is no opposition in China, because being opposed to the communist party means death.
China is drastically different from all the other countries.China today is no different from the other East Asian states during their period of development.
You are confusing communists with political prisoners.Yeah sure, that's why there were thousands of political prisoners in S. Korea and Taiwan.
You lose your credibility right there.It is a mix between socialism and capitalism. China is FAR FAR more open today than S. Korea or Japan EVEN TODAY.
Yup.55 minority groups want to break apart from China?
The moment the communist party collapses, China will be split into at least 9 separate nations.The last I have heard, there are only two seperatist movements, the Uighurs and the Tibetans
- Tibetans go free.
- Ughurs go free.
- Taiwan declares the Republic of Taiwan.
- Manchus establish a Manchu state.
- Inner Mongolia reverts back to Monglia
- Southen Manchuria reverts back to Korea
- Ethnic Russians reverts back to Russia.
- Hans could split into two nations, the Mandarin speaking nation of North and the Cantonese speaking nation of South.
The only thing that holds China together is the brutal oppression of the communist party.
You need to study history outside of China.like I said before, China is an authoritarian state now, NOT a democracy. JUST LIKE how S. Korea was in the 60's to the 80's.
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