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If you think politicians in the US, Japan or S. Korea are not morally corrupt, then you are even dumber than I first thought.
Not just politicians, but the population as whole.

Why do counterfeit goods, including automobiles, flourish in China? Because Chines people as whole do not feel guilty about ripping off other people's intellectual work.

how Japan, S. Korea and Taiwan was during their development.
Not the same level of totalitarianism as China is. All these countries had a multi-party political system and real elections, and even so-called dictators were forced to negotiate with the opposition.

There is no opposition in China, because being opposed to the communist party means death.

China today is no different from the other East Asian states during their period of development.
China is drastically different from all the other countries.

Yeah sure, that's why there were thousands of political prisoners in S. Korea and Taiwan.
You are confusing communists with political prisoners.

It is a mix between socialism and capitalism. China is FAR FAR more open today than S. Korea or Japan EVEN TODAY.
You lose your credibility right there.

55 minority groups want to break apart from China?
Yup.

The last I have heard, there are only two seperatist movements, the Uighurs and the Tibetans
The moment the communist party collapses, China will be split into at least 9 separate nations.

- Tibetans go free.
- Ughurs go free.
- Taiwan declares the Republic of Taiwan.
- Manchus establish a Manchu state.
- Inner Mongolia reverts back to Monglia
- Southen Manchuria reverts back to Korea
- Ethnic Russians reverts back to Russia.
- Hans could split into two nations, the Mandarin speaking nation of North and the Cantonese speaking nation of South.

The only thing that holds China together is the brutal oppression of the communist party.

like I said before, China is an authoritarian state now, NOT a democracy. JUST LIKE how S. Korea was in the 60's to the 80's.
You need to study history outside of China.
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hmm this thread seemed to be good discussion relevent at start about chinese car industry but now become to name calling angry political differences discussion

lets get together and decide what to do of such posts...
1. should i delete whole thread
2. delete all non car posts
3. move to offtopic
4. let it stay

please suggest!
option 3, this is just turning into a hate-slinging contest.
Why do counterfeit goods, including automobiles, flourish in China? Because Chines people as whole do not feel guilty about ripping off other people's intellectual work.
There was this same problem in S. Korea, Taiwan and HK. Now it is less so because of improved legal systems and greater economic wealth. Standards are different. If you are saying that China has counterfeit goods because Chinese are inherently less moral than other countries, then you are making an outrageous and racist statement.

Not the same level of totalitarianism as China is. All these countries had a multi-party political system and real elections, and even so-called dictators were forced to negotiate with the opposition.
There is no opposition in China, because being opposed to the communist party means death.
Again, you have a very outdated notion of China. China today is not in the Cultural Revolution. There are many who criticize the government's policies regularly and not get punished. And free elections in S. Korea and Taiwan before the 80's?? You got to be joking! And free elections in Japan before the end of WW2?? You are the one losing your credibility.


China's industries are far more open today than S. Korea or Japan. Does Korea or Japan allow foreign companies to compete in their auto market? No, China allows all kinds of foreign brands and companies to compete in their market. There is absolutely no parallel with Japan or Korea in this respect.
- Tibetans go free.
- Ughurs go free.
- Taiwan declares the Republic of Taiwan.
- Manchus establish a Manchu state.
- Inner Mongolia reverts back to Monglia
- Southen Manchuria reverts back to Korea
- Ethnic Russians reverts back to Russia.
- Hans could split into two nations, the Mandarin speaking nation of North and the Cantonese speaking nation of South.
You obviously don't know shit about China. haha Your notions are so absurd.

First, China's govt. is not going to collapse. Second, Manchus are indistinguishable from Hans nowadays, even if they were, they populate no more than 2% of all of former Manchuria. Today it is all Hans there. Same with Inner Mongolia, the Mongols are pretty much acculturated except for some nomads, and most of Inner Mongolia are Hans. Ethnic Russians? There are only a few tens of thousands, they control no territory. Southern Manchuria reverting to Korea? Dream on Korean dipshit. Mandarin speaking North and Cantonese South? Get a life. Cantonese is only spoken around HK and in Guangdong province, and even in China's worse times, the Hans did not divide amongst each other.

Get a life, I know your dream is to see China crumble. But that's not going to happen. Whether you like it or not, China is going to become the next superpower, and your tiny Korea will probably just become a vassal state again like it is fast becoming today. Go back to Korea, you will see all your Korean brothers eagerly studying Chinese. LOL
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Real_I_Hate_China said:
Southen Manchuria reverts back to Korea
Out of all the funny shiat I'm reading, this one got me rolling on the floor... on man it's so funny it made my day... typical of egoistic Koreans these days... funny thing is, the #1 foreign language people learn in S Korea is Chinese, and the #1 trading partner of Korea, North or South (also Japan), is China. Go figure.

Maybe Korea should revert back to Japan...

Real_I_Hate_China said:
Why do counterfeit goods, including automobiles, flourish in China? Because Chines people as whole do not feel guilty about ripping off other people's intellectual work.
I was in China over the summer, and I visited a few places that sells counterfeit goods - guess who are the customers? #1 is Koreans, #2 Japanese, #3 Russians and other Eastern Europeans, #4 Americans, #5 Western Europeans. Chinese citizens rank last and many who buy counterfeits DON'T EVEN KNOW they're counterfeits of a famous brand.

So please cut the crap about this "moral high ground" of "civilized nations. I spit at such pompus notions.
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and fuck that ZONDA company, a compay of no self-esteem, lies in front of the whole public.

This company should just die.
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option 3 :

and a serious warning to ppl ALWAYS linking chinese cars with chinese politics !!

The next time I will go buy a new car , I will stuy the history of its Nation and the Politics going around !
wtf !
Option 1 Admin

Do not give any chance to the politic or national stuff~~~ boring~~ boring~~~ loh

Otherwise this forum will be doomed by a troll...

I don't want to lose this site as it's only source for the chinese car and this site has been great so far.

-ps. if everthing is a black or white, people would not need to have a brain.
Real_I_Hate_China said:
The moment the communist party collapses, China will be split into at least 9 separate nations.

- Tibetans go free.
- Ughurs go free.
- Taiwan declares the Republic of Taiwan.
- Manchus establish a Manchu state.
- Inner Mongolia reverts back to Monglia
- Southen Manchuria reverts back to Korea
- Ethnic Russians reverts back to Russia.
- Hans could split into two nations, the Mandarin speaking nation of North and the Cantonese speaking nation of South.

Here is my version, :D


- China lays territorial claim for parts of the India currently occupied by Tibetan fugitives.
- China claims part of Afganastan.
- Taiwan accepts a status similar to Quebec.
- China claims whole korean peninsula as part of china based on Manchus history. China sends troops and occupies the whole penisula. It really doesn't matter what korean version of histroy says, the fact is koreans have always lived and died by Chinese rules until this day (ie. North Korea) and they are nothing but a spin-off of china. Time to make koreans drop those circles and squres and speak some decent language like chinese.
- Mongolia ceases to exist and its territory reverts back to China
- China invades Japan in the name of searching for WMD or just whatever reason you can find.
- Far east Russia reverts back to China. Russia breaks into baby republics once again and sustain themselves by exporting oil and mail order brides.
- Hans and Cantoness speaking Hans flood into US and heavily influence US politics.



Whew........ isn't this soooo much better than your version of fantasy? :lol:



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